Just new to manual mode with my avata2 controller 3. Have checked out some very useful sites on setting your rates. All pretty good however this tutorial was exceptionally good. That you for your great presentation
Been watching fpv vids for ages..never had betaflight as my first fpv quad was a little betafpv brushed whoop 😂 Got the manual radio coming for my avata 2 and not only was this perfect for me but a great explanation of rates in general, probably the best. Thanks a lot man❤
Thank you so much, this is incredibly helpful to someone (me) who has only been flying manual for a few weeks and is very much still learning how to maneuver the Avata 2. Also I love the footage, especially when you are filming your friend's drone :D
Excellent explanation of the Rates! It's one of the best I've watched. I will fly the Avata 2 in Manual/Acro mode soon, and your recommendations greatly help me. Thank you. I'm subbing. Greetings from Montreal, Canada.
Amazingly good explanation!! Thanks. Just entering fpv and tried full manual for first time today watching this vid in a field first 👊 Great fun if a little scary at first 😂 it only occurred to me after the second ‘landing’ that I can easily switch back to S or N of things get a little sketchy..! Which they did 😱
That's really helped me as a new fpv owner i want to get into full manual as soon as i can and this helps me understand what everything does. Im not a fan of the toy controller only ever used RC controllers to fly my drones so it feels normal to me. Off to practice practice practice
@NJ-Tech will be starting slow with the idiot switch on for a while stopping it from doing acro until im confident sending it around etc then take it off and see where we go when im used to her lol. Care refresh in place 😅😉
I been venturing over to Manual mode but afraid to turn the attitude off because I didn't understand the settings and there's a big difference between flying for real vs a sim like liftoff or Uncrashed. Now I can plug in some parameters, practice, and pop of the training wheels er... props I guess 😆 Thank you for the excellent and easy to understand explanation! I needed this more than you know lol.
Take your time, there's no rush! If you're cutting around in manual mode on the sim you're going to be fine. Just start off with no more that 10 degrees tilt on the camera to keep things slow and remember the pause button is your friend if you get in trouble 😉
Hi NJ, thanks for the video. I think I have my axis rates nailed, well in the sim anyway. I find the throttle less punchy than feels great have you played with throttle sensitivity at all? BTW I am in North London would love to go fly some time.
@angusfraser5562 hey thanks for the comment. So the one thing I tend to leave where it is and keep completely linear is the throttle. It's the lifeline of every manoeuvre and you don't want the feel to change as this can mess with your muscle memory. I'd advise to just keep that as it is. Where do you fly in North London? Cheers, NJ
Fantastic video, is there any chance you could do a video comparing these rates to actual rates in a simulator like Liftoff or Velocidrone.i am loving these rates and would like to replicate them in these sims.many thanks
Thanks for the comment! So i havent flown the sim in years, and although they are a great place to try out new manoeuvres and work on muscle memory, they often don't reflect the real world. What i mean by that is the physics of the sim is usually just too perfect without really reflecting wind, weight, floatyness etc. Although they are getting better they still dont really tranlate to the real thing that well. What i suggest you do is tune your rates as i described and get the quad doing what you want first. If you are a little worried just practise your manoeuvres nice and high up so you have lots of time to recover if you mess things up. Then as you get a feel for things you will know how to tune the sime rates. They almost never directly translate from real world to sim anyway. Ive tried it and often to feel like my quad, the number are vastly different. You will know if it feels wrong in the sim, just use the steps in this video to tune the sim to feel like your real quad. Hope that helps!
Thanks Neil, I am mostly flying in the Sim to get some stick time in,especially when the weather is bad or in the evenings. Unfortunately I live in area surrounded by airports so have to travel further afield. Main reason I'm asking is because DJI screen and Betaflight look different so wondering if there was an easy translation. Really struggling to find my rates in the sim,which I can then translate to my non DJI drones.
Would welcome your inout on what rate range would suit indoor drone tours, have my cinelog 30 dialled in but the avata2 has no throttle expo and even with a 5 camera angle its still lively flying through a house. I need gentle curves when turning which is a roll and yaw combo. i keep experimenting but i’ve not found a sweet spot yet, its just too fast at times.
Why wouldn't you choose to fly in normal mode for house tours? Slef levelling and throttle response are all much easier to handle indoors in normal mode. Most of the people doing house tours professionally use normal mode for this. If you do want to fly manual then 0 degrees on the camera (remember the vertical FOV of the camera is enough even at 0) and increase your exponential curves to a high level to make inputs easier in tight spaces.
@@NJ-Tech because compared to the floatiness of a decent whoop it looks boring and does not turn buttery smooth. Also 0 camera angle limits my ability to fly backwards out of set of doors to do a reveal as I fly away and up.
I'm curious to see how this thing handles a trippy spin? Its pretty light on yaw i believe, but then again I'm not always consistent with doing them in a sim.
Any quad like this with propgaurds or ducts generally don't do yaw manoeuvres very well, and best avoided. I have done a few inverted yaws but they never exit well and can drop an arm. For a consumer drone, its very good though!
@nigno21 you can't tune out propwash with rates. You need access to P and D gains to tune for that which DJI don't give you access to. In my powerloops video I talk about how to fly to correctly avoid propwash. Have a look at that 👍
@extremexrdeutschland8704 unfortunately in Europe (CE mode) the avata 2 has been speed restricted. There is a way to turn the restriction off by using the HAM hack. If you do some research you'll see its very easy to do by just placing a file on the goggle SD card.
@bender06160 if you search back through my videos I have a bunch of tutorials on manoeuvres. I think I have a livestock using liftoff where I go through orbits and how to move through front, inward and reverse orbits. If I have time later I'll link it for you. All the same principles for the AV2
@edgarseit8374 do you have the remote 3? Without it you can't fly in acro mode. Also you have to go into settings to enable 2 check boxes to confirm full macro mode and disable angle limit
@NJ-Tech For some reason I had this weird twitch in the video with rocksteady before doing any rolls and flips. But was maybe my rates and my stick movements, I'm gonna try these rates out and see how I do. I love the avata 2 but really love doing freestyle flying also. I probably should of gotten a 5in fpv but glad to know that you can still freestyle the avata 2 but takes practice and getting to know the drone first
@briansaner101 exactly as you say, it really is a great flow quad, just take your time getting to know it and tune your rates. I definitely love the flight times compared to a 5 inch quad too! Thanks for the comments 🙏🏼
@specialagentzeus hi there. No, PID adjustment is an adjustment of the gains of the controller: The Proportional, integral and Derivative gains. This is something on all custom built quads we are used to tuning and really helps dial in the Quads flught characteristics but sadly DJI don't give us any control over this.
I have never flown the avata 1 so I'm not sure. Best to understand how it all works as I explain in the video so you can tune it for your flying style 🙂
Perhaps the best explanation of rates that I’ve ever heard . Thanks!
Appreciate the comment 🙏🏼
Just new to manual mode with my avata2 controller 3. Have checked out some very useful sites on setting your rates. All pretty good however this tutorial was exceptionally good. That you for your great presentation
Been watching fpv vids for ages..never had betaflight as my first fpv quad was a little betafpv brushed whoop 😂
Got the manual radio coming for my avata 2 and not only was this perfect for me but a great explanation of rates in general, probably the best. Thanks a lot man❤
@AurelianBrother thanks brother, you'll have loads of fun with this one 🙏🏽
Thank you so much, this is incredibly helpful to someone (me) who has only been flying manual for a few weeks and is very much still learning how to maneuver the Avata 2. Also I love the footage, especially when you are filming your friend's drone :D
@JasonandaCamera thanks for the comment! Take your time and enjoy the Avata 2, it's a great Quad! 🙏🏽
Excellent tutorial. You should be a teacher, if you’re not one already!
Thanks very much, really appreciate the kind words and glad it helped 🙏🏼
Excellent explanation of the Rates! It's one of the best I've watched. I will fly the Avata 2 in Manual/Acro mode soon, and your recommendations greatly help me. Thank you. I'm subbing. Greetings from Montreal, Canada.
Thanks so much for the kind words! Good luck and take your time, it's great fun in manual 😀
Any suggestion of exact Rates for Av2 manual mode - for begginer ! ? Appreciate a good data.
NJ.. I was needing some guidance on manual mode and rate and expo settings, thanks for this video!
Welcome, thanks for the comment 🙏🏼
Thank you! I was disappointed in manual mode because I had M Mode Attitude Limit on and it wouldnt let me do much!
It caught a few people out don't worry! Take you're time with it as you can definitely crash now 😂
Thanks for the informative video. I agree with others as it is the best I've ever heard.
@BIGJON827 glad it helped! Thanks for the kind words 🙏🏾
Amazingly good explanation!! Thanks. Just entering fpv and tried full manual for first time today watching this vid in a field first 👊
Great fun if a little scary at first 😂 it only occurred to me after the second ‘landing’ that I can easily switch back to S or N of things get a little sketchy..! Which they did 😱
Thanks man! Yeah I use the pause button a lot as my reflex when things look sketchy 😆 glad you're having fun!
Very helpful once again!
Thank so much 🙌
That's really helped me as a new fpv owner i want to get into full manual as soon as i can and this helps me understand what everything does. Im not a fan of the toy controller only ever used RC controllers to fly my drones so it feels normal to me. Off to practice practice practice
Glad it helped and thanks for the comment! Take your time and you'll have loads more fun in manual 😎
@NJ-Tech will be starting slow with the idiot switch on for a while stopping it from doing acro until im confident sending it around etc then take it off and see where we go when im used to her lol. Care refresh in place 😅😉
I been venturing over to Manual mode but afraid to turn the attitude off because I didn't understand the settings and there's a big difference between flying for real vs a sim like liftoff or Uncrashed. Now I can plug in some parameters, practice, and pop of the training wheels er... props I guess 😆 Thank you for the excellent and easy to understand explanation! I needed this more than you know lol.
Take your time, there's no rush! If you're cutting around in manual mode on the sim you're going to be fine. Just start off with no more that 10 degrees tilt on the camera to keep things slow and remember the pause button is your friend if you get in trouble 😉
@@NJ-Tech Oh I've made good use of the pause button in my manual mode moments thus far 😬 Thanks again for the help. Much appreciated
Hi NJ, thanks for the video. I think I have my axis rates nailed, well in the sim anyway. I find the throttle less punchy than feels great have you played with throttle sensitivity at all? BTW I am in North London would love to go fly some time.
@angusfraser5562 hey thanks for the comment. So the one thing I tend to leave where it is and keep completely linear is the throttle. It's the lifeline of every manoeuvre and you don't want the feel to change as this can mess with your muscle memory. I'd advise to just keep that as it is. Where do you fly in North London? Cheers, NJ
Best explanation ever for that matter! Thank you
@canaldoingles thanks for the comment, glad it helped!
Fantastic video, is there any chance you could do a video comparing these rates to actual rates in a simulator like Liftoff or Velocidrone.i am loving these rates and would like to replicate them in these sims.many thanks
Thanks for the comment! So i havent flown the sim in years, and although they are a great place to try out new manoeuvres and work on muscle memory, they often don't reflect the real world. What i mean by that is the physics of the sim is usually just too perfect without really reflecting wind, weight, floatyness etc. Although they are getting better they still dont really tranlate to the real thing that well. What i suggest you do is tune your rates as i described and get the quad doing what you want first. If you are a little worried just practise your manoeuvres nice and high up so you have lots of time to recover if you mess things up. Then as you get a feel for things you will know how to tune the sime rates. They almost never directly translate from real world to sim anyway. Ive tried it and often to feel like my quad, the number are vastly different. You will know if it feels wrong in the sim, just use the steps in this video to tune the sim to feel like your real quad. Hope that helps!
Thanks Neil, I am mostly flying in the Sim to get some stick time in,especially when the weather is bad or in the evenings. Unfortunately I live in area surrounded by airports so have to travel further afield. Main reason I'm asking is because DJI screen and Betaflight look different so wondering if there was an easy translation. Really struggling to find my rates in the sim,which I can then translate to my non DJI drones.
Great vid. I wish DJI would show graphs while you change it. This is much more intuitive.
Nice video my friend but you have a rates for avata 1? Or is the same with avata 2?
Great Video, I never see any DJI store voucher codes around unfortunately
yeah, sadly these thing harly ever go on sale or come down in price..
the master educator!!!
the master waffler more like 😂cheers matey.
@@NJ-Tech the best explanation of expo i've heard!
thank you so much for sharing, this really help for beginner like me
You're very welcome! Take you're time and enjoy, she's a great little machine!
amazing, can you do more vids like this one? for beginners of avata 2 in Manual... thanks!!
@@Juacalvo more avata 2 content will be coming for sure ☺️
Great video .
One question is andy on your settings 😅
Thanks! So Andy is on stock settings at the minute but im bullying him into changing his rates now 😂
@NJ-Tech ha ha ha now that would be a viral video
Thank you! Great info!
@@MikeFloresTattoo appreciate it 🙏🏽
Perfect explanation! Thank you :)
Thanks for the comment 🙏🏼
Would welcome your inout on what rate range would suit indoor drone tours, have my cinelog 30 dialled in but the avata2 has no throttle expo and even with a 5 camera angle its still lively flying through a house. I need gentle curves when turning which is a roll and yaw combo. i keep experimenting but i’ve not found a sweet spot yet, its just too fast at times.
Why wouldn't you choose to fly in normal mode for house tours? Slef levelling and throttle response are all much easier to handle indoors in normal mode. Most of the people doing house tours professionally use normal mode for this. If you do want to fly manual then 0 degrees on the camera (remember the vertical FOV of the camera is enough even at 0) and increase your exponential curves to a high level to make inputs easier in tight spaces.
@@NJ-Tech because compared to the floatiness of a decent whoop it looks boring and does not turn buttery smooth. Also 0 camera angle limits my ability to fly backwards out of set of doors to do a reveal as I fly away and up.
Very helpful, thanks!!
I'm curious to see how this thing handles a trippy spin? Its pretty light on yaw i believe, but then again I'm not always consistent with doing them in a sim.
Any quad like this with propgaurds or ducts generally don't do yaw manoeuvres very well, and best avoided. I have done a few inverted yaws but they never exit well and can drop an arm. For a consumer drone, its very good though!
I have a simple question: any rates sets can avoid the washout problem in Avata 2? Have you sperimented it?
@nigno21 you can't tune out propwash with rates. You need access to P and D gains to tune for that which DJI don't give you access to. In my powerloops video I talk about how to fly to correctly avoid propwash. Have a look at that 👍
What is the settings to perform easy acro like flip, power loop using fpv controller 3?
Easy acro is for motion controller only
@kelvinx5826 nope. Based on your vid you can do flips using fpv controller
Awesome! thanks!
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good morning my friend! So one question is how to increase his acceleration, I thought he was very slow!
Are you in Europe?
@@NJ-Tech Yes
@extremexrdeutschland8704 unfortunately in Europe (CE mode) the avata 2 has been speed restricted. There is a way to turn the restriction off by using the HAM hack. If you do some research you'll see its very easy to do by just placing a file on the goggle SD card.
Are there settings for throttle anywhere? I’d like to add some deadband.
Unfortunately no throttle options
@@NJ-Tech bummer
I ve got pbs to do orbits with avata 2. No pb in simulators but it’s quite différent irl with avata 2.. do you have some tips to solve this pb?
@bender06160 if you search back through my videos I have a bunch of tutorials on manoeuvres. I think I have a livestock using liftoff where I go through orbits and how to move through front, inward and reverse orbits. If I have time later I'll link it for you. All the same principles for the AV2
@ thanks! I m going to look Into that
Hello i have avata 2 how to enable acro mode coz no acro mode on may goggle screen?
@edgarseit8374 do you have the remote 3? Without it you can't fly in acro mode. Also you have to go into settings to enable 2 check boxes to confirm full macro mode and disable angle limit
Do you use rocksteady or gyroflow for your freestyle edits?
just the built in Rocksteady!
@NJ-Tech For some reason I had this weird twitch in the video with rocksteady before doing any rolls and flips. But was maybe my rates and my stick movements, I'm gonna try these rates out and see how I do. I love the avata 2 but really love doing freestyle flying also. I probably should of gotten a 5in fpv but glad to know that you can still freestyle the avata 2 but takes practice and getting to know the drone first
@briansaner101 exactly as you say, it really is a great flow quad, just take your time getting to know it and tune your rates. I definitely love the flight times compared to a 5 inch quad too! Thanks for the comments 🙏🏼
What is your favorite camera angle?
@Hunter_FPV actually about 35 degrees with a nice wide sensor like on the Avatar 2 is perfect for all speeds.
@@NJ-Tech thank you
Is this also called PID adjustment?
@specialagentzeus hi there. No, PID adjustment is an adjustment of the gains of the controller: The Proportional, integral and Derivative gains. This is something on all custom built quads we are used to tuning and really helps dial in the Quads flught characteristics but sadly DJI don't give us any control over this.
Try these rates on my next flight.
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If I use same this rate in avatar 1 . will give same your flying
I have never flown the avata 1 so I'm not sure. Best to understand how it all works as I explain in the video so you can tune it for your flying style 🙂
Does the expo value of 0.6 mean 0.60 ?
Yikes!