Honestly, I'm a fan of the easy acro mode. It's not just a gimmick for sales. For us FPV beginners, pulling off cool aerial tricks isn't a walk in the park, and this mode helps without making things too complicated. And can't deny it, this will indeed spice up my flying experience.
I totally believe is a cool experience! And it's true that doing it in manual takes skill, and it's better to have a easy mode rather than not of course! I say useless regarding to video recording purposes, as you will have to learn real manual to integrate acro smoothly into videos And still I believe that they could integrate it into the classic radio and teach people gradually how to do acro, so one can have more confidence and learn something useful, ability that translates to any other drone
its more or less a gimmick as its the drone pulling off the move not you, and its not really graceful enough to use for video purposes either. Its too quick but definitely fun to experience for someone who can't yet do flips in manual
@@Rimzler I somewhat agree the 2 easy acro modes are just gimmicks, but I don't agree with the RC motion 3 being useless. I have only shot 1 video with mine so far, but found it very useful, very smooth, and the learning curve was minutes. I actually loved flying with it. Here is my first vid from the Avata 2 w/RC Motion 3 - you can skip ahead to around 2:14 to get the Sport Mode footage with the RC Motion 3 controller. ruclips.net/video/-joYQvb4r5o/видео.html
yes i appreciated that too, completely agree re the fully swivelling mask instead of the cameras and there needs to be a eye lens cover 100%, they will sell like hotcakes on temu haha. I think the resolution of the goggles is way better though.
After watching 10 videos about DJI Neo and Avata, I thought I was the only one thinking that those flipping stuff are totally useless. Thanks for that more realistic, real life, and fun review. 😄👍
First time that I feel a DJI REVIEW deserves my compliment! This is a frank honest assessment without the too common claptrap. Please keep up making great videos, thank you.
I am so impressed when it comes to steep diving with the Avata 2 over the Avata 1 it flies down so much more smoothly and a lot better. The Avata 1 will struggle shack and generally freak out when you do the same. They actually made it better in Normal and Sports Mode to use the motion lotion controller over the Controller 2 & 3.
Thank you. I've been waiting for an honest review instead of the mainstream RUclipsrs who only speak about the benefits without including any nuance or downsides. I trusted them last time when I bought the Avata 1, and paid the price. I appreciate your honesty and helpful suggestions. 🙏
I bought it knowing I wouldn't like the motion controller. The gimbal is what sold me. Being able to adjust it on the fly without having to build some servo based monstrosity is gold.
@Rimzler if we're honest the head tracking doesn't really work properly with this machine because of the 1 axis nature of the gimbal. I found the limits of it's ability very quickly. If you're just hovering around it's fine, but soon as you push it the tracking comes unstuck.
@@SickocrowAU yes absolutely, but I would love to be able to control up and down tilt with it while using the controller, shouldn't be so hard for DJI considering that all the input are mixed through the goggles already
EXACTLY! The motion controller is funny for a while and I get it, but it doesn't compare to the real controller. I had to wait a week to get the real controller and once I got it, I will never use the other one again. But I might let other people play with the other one. But the oddest thing is that Acro with the Controller 3 is really crazy easy... maybe I just got really good with Acro over the winter but holy cow, it worked really well for me. And I LOVE the Goggles, so that's a personal thing that each individual will have to decide.
Yes I think they should focus on teaching people gradually to use the radio and transition into manual! It would be an incredible experience sold that way! And the ability will translate to all the other drones! Yeah goggle fit is subjective, but adding a couple mounting points for regular straps and let people decide even better, stuff is not cheap
great video thank you!! 'where are the chickens when I need them!!' haha! I have the mini 4 pro and avata 2, both amazing drones for different situations!!
Thank you! I don't feel like I made a negative review, I like the updates on the drone a lot and can't wait to use it for an upcoming rally job, yet I am griping about the downgrades that are gonna make my experience less pleasant, also I will need to carry 2 radios and 2 goggles because stuff is not intercompatible
You don’t have rear obstacle sensors! It’s just for indoor precise vision positioning… also: if you use real vision while flying,it will cancel the dvr recording, so probably you will crash without an idea where. For me the g3 worked better in term of ergonomics, but I agree, I too need imax fov ;) Gimbal is really helpful for filming. Slowly fly downwards into the woods, not possible without gimbal…. Greets, good to see your videos perform really well now, well deserved man!
I bet they will make the rear sensors available in an update, will be super useful for tracking backwards! I wished they gave us strap mounting options on the goggles and let us decide!
I like that you name things like you see them: The "motion ontroller" a "marketing gimmik" and that you call the automatic roll function "useless". And I loved to hear you say "I am scared of drone who fly automatically". It's the best summing up of all these gimmiks. Great video!!
I just got the Avata 2 last week, it's my first real drone other than basically a toy drone I bought on Temu for like $25. I'm loving my experience with the Avata 2. To me the motion controller makes flying very intuitive since it basically replicates an add-on flight stick for a lot of consoles like PS5 or Xbox. While I intend to eventually buy the separate flight controller, I'm in no hurry to get it. The Avata 2 is very easy for a complete beginner to use and then as your skills increase you can eventually get the separate sticks flight controller and use the manual flight mode. This drone might not be the right one for everybody but it was the exact right one for me since I am having so much fun with it! Just my 2 cents.
@@mikepatton8691 It's great to hear that you have big fun with your new Avata 2! Thats what it all is about! I guess you plan is very well: to learn to fly this drone intuitive and with time step up! Every pilot has different needs and expectations and it's great that you found your way and have fun!
I understand the experienced pilot appreciates this review. As a total noob, i couldn't disagree more. With 0% experience i could fly this drone so easily its an amazing drone for me. just 10 minutes practice and i was flying like a pro. Some sort. AND it was because of the easy controller. Just my 2 cents, tx for your review though
Great and honest review, I agree with everything you said, I got the drone yesterday and the motion controller is pretty useless. Its only good for marketing. makes you look cool. but in reality the Remote controller is the way to go. The new goggles are just bad. They hurt pretty bad and make you sweat a lot.... I'll keep looking for aftermarket accessory for it. as this thing is almost unbearable
Thank you and I'm glad you agree! Maybe some mods will come out but will require disassembling and probably rewiring, maybe the electronic fits in the old integras?
@@Rimzler i'm not hoping for anything crazy, just a foam that makes it easier to wear, the extra pad that comes with the goggles for the forehead does help a little bit. but it's not enough. Maybe a memory foam replaces the silly rubber just so it doesn't hurt my nose and stop light leaks... the current silly rubber is not even good enough for testing. let alone a long flight. I can't imagine myself wearing this goggles for 3 full batteries....
Shockingly windy! I actually think it handled that wind really well that wind is serious. I just got my RC today, I agree that once you know how to fly with a real RC there’s no going back, it just feels limited. I also agree that the integra or googles 2 feel better than these new goggles but if range is better I’ll get used to them haha! Of the three goggles I love the integra and wish it were compatible. Hope it will be with future updates
Yeah it's crazy how both avatas hold wind! I tested the old one in the worst places and I always was shocked! I do really hope they make the old stuff compatible
This drone is so fun to fly. It may be less capable than an open prop freestyle style drone. But I think I have plenty I can learn before I feel like the drone is holding me back. Chasing chickens is an awsome way to test drones!
Hi Andrea, Avata 2 has C1 class and 19 m/s velocity limitation. 19:31 Did you use FCC mod to achieve high speed or it was just a wind? You mentioned less power - looks like DJI limited speed by the power output and outside EU should be much better.
Awesome and honest review. I also think Googles 3 are a downgrade because the diopters adjust now down to -6 max while Googles 2 go down to -8. From a glasses user I´m between -7 and -8 so with Googles 2 I can see perfectly fine, with Googles 3 I need to order now corrective lenses in order to use them. This feels as an absolute downgrade considering Googles 2 where already perfect for me.
Daamn i didn't even spot that! Can't you adjust extra with the lens adapters? I really do hope the old goggle 2 support o4 as they seem to completely be able to, and are more premium than this
Hi, thank you very much for the review, i love your accent, it is so much fun to watch 😅! About the goggles 3, you got a point here, but for me the smaller screen is better, because with the goggles 2 i get really dissy, i bought 4 pad and it didn’t help at all! The goggles 3 fits nicely, but i don’t know in time what happens to the rubber pad! And the quality if the camera is just amazing, i think it will be a game changer… thanks again man and happy chasing your chickens 😂
Good honest review. I can't argue with anything you said other than I don't have a big of a problem with the new goggles. If DJI make the old goggles compatible with the avata 2 I will try them both and see which works best in work situations. I didn't get the FPV remote 3 yet - hoping DJI will make the remote 2 compatible eventually, or make the remote 3 compatible with O3 so I can just have one remote.
Yes I really hope they give us choices, because in the end fit is personal as everyone has different head shapes, but giving options is the best way to deal with it
Looking to buy one and your opinions are just what I needed to hear most. Thank you so much! Also I found it's funny when you found the dog was digging hole! Lol
I like the Avata 2 drone and I think is super versatile, wish they also made a ductless faster version with the same camera quality, and I actually use it a lot for work, it's super convenient! It's the gear it comes with that is a downgrade compared to last generation, and I hate DJI marketing choices and focus on the useless stuff, while the main core functions could be further improven All the other DJI drones focus on the video making aspect, while still providing some beginner help, the avatar focuses on the fun, while leaving the video making and convenience in second place!
I still like the drone, and will use a lot for work and travel, I just wish DJI made different choices with the gear it comes with! Also because this is the new generation of o4 stuff and will affect a ton of FPV pilots
I didnt hear any negatives other than its not your standard FPV drone but as he also stated, it wasnt meant to be. I think its an improvement over the previous avata and will be great for specific buyers and purposes. I am holding off until they allow me to fly it with my RC2 from my mini 4. The included equipment choices with the avata series are absolutely ridiculous.
Appreciate your candor. As someone looking for their 1st drone though, the controller 3 you complain about so much is actually part of what attracted me to it. The dual stick controllers are intimidating to someone who has never used them and IMO I would probably crash a drone more frequently with the sticks while getting up.to speed with the learning curve than with the controller 3. Pretty sure that's why they made it - to get newbies into the game. Sure I'll get the stick controller at some point but to be able to fly out of the box by someone who has never used a drone before I think it is more intuitive and will draw a lot larger beginner base. Why are the ground and positioning sensors only on the back though? I imagine 99% of crashes are from froward motion...so why no front sensors or object avoidance?
Sticks may look daunting at first but on a drone like the avata, that hovers super precise and gives you all the time to think, I think that only takes maybe an extra hour to get the hang of with no real risk of crashing in an open field, and that's a skill that translates to all the other drones out there They didn't even implement the back collision avoidance yet, so it doesn't have obstacle avoidance... That's because of price, that's why I hope they make a pro version with more features
@Rimzler Thanks for the reply! NO collision avoidance at all? Maybe I should buy a mini4Pro + the googles3 instead? MP4 has 360 collision avoidance and will qirkmw thr Goggles 3 I believe, right? Would that help keep me from crashing, (could FPV throught the woods)? ..or is the MP4 really just a totally different functionality / experience? Where are you from? Beautiful surroundings. Orchards?
Good honest review. Personally, I think the new goggles are way more comfortable than all my other "traditional FPV goggles. It probably has a lot to do with face/head shape, but I feel like they're way more "locked on" than traditional gogs, and the FOV is at the limit of what I can get in frame. You do know you can tighten them with the dial on the back, right? Other than that, I think you nailed it.
They are comfier than stock goggle 2, but not aftermarket for me, yeah I tightened to the point of hurting, but it has a smaller contact area compared to the old anyway, and in some situations they will shake, but that's a niche use! Like now I am shooting a car parade and will need to fly from inside another car, that's a concern! For sure I like innovation, but I see too many obvious improvements, like make them swivel all the way up, and add a couple mounting points for aftermarket parts They should give people the choice to personalize their fit, and maybe they can even sell all the different inexpensive attachments and sell for a premium, I wouldn't criticize that much then
I've been wanting to move into FPV for a longtime and after how fluid you were with the sticks I think I'll buy the remote with the fly more. Great thorough video. Thanks!
The motion control review seems like its just because youre not used to it, youve been using the sticks for a while so thats what feels natural to you. the motion control can easilly allow you to get some great shots and track targets while also doing some precise flying .... when youve practiced. The remote is gonna give you much more control but also disables a bunch of decent features which are good for cinematic flying. if you need casual flights where film is the priority , use the motion control if yo uwant the regular fpv style, use the fpv remote
Well, it is not true about the controller. With a bit of training it is as good as manual mode. I got it, I am flying it daily without "stop and adjust". Keep exercising!
I have no doubt that it can be used proficiently and that it's fun, my beef is it should be an accessory and not the main input device that comes in the box, the ability you get by using it is wasted as soon as you use any other drone that uses a normal radio, and a regular radio allows to switch flight modes and go full manual, so the ceiling of what you can do is higher
What would you think about a guy new to fpv or drones in general getting this avata2? I'm thinking of getting it as I see the learning curve is better. Also I would get the bundle with RC and goggles so when i finish building my 5" i can get an O3 air unit and don't have to buy another goggles/RC... Again, total newbie here, maybe I'm talking crap. Thanks
I can see you not liking it as a policy using more specially designed drones fit this is just not this but you are still unfairly comparing them. For instance, the motion controller is a nice and easy introduction for a new pilot to FPV but you still call it crap.
Have you tried changing the Gain/Expo settings for the Motion Controller? That may smooth out your video... Just a thought, I don't claim to be an expert.
Thing about the motion controller, the point seems to be to be accessible, however at the same time in most of europe you beed a certificate to fly it anyways so its never truely accessible
I think what they did with regular controller not being included is just a cash grab. They gave a gimmicky motion controller so there wouldnt be a backlash that they give you drone without any type of control
Just know that I just bought my second avatar 2, the gear it comes with is not as good as last time, but the drone is very versatile and I like it, so not a bad choice imho
Avata2 or Cinebot25 or DarkStar20 I have been flying in liftoff for more than 50 hours with radiomaster boxer, and mobula 6 in acro mode for 2 months plus. The reason I am getting cinewhoop is because I will be flying indoor and for safety purpose since it comes with prop guards, and not ready for extreme stunts moves at the moment. 1. Do u think I should get the avata2 or cinebot25 S or DarkStar20? Or any better choice for beginner? 2. Is the Integra Goggles still a good choice for now? Since Goggles 3 dont support O3 air unit and Integra's price has reduced. Thanks in advance!
Well I suggest waiting, as all the drones that have o3 now, will get o4 in the near future probably, so having a small o4 one will be incredible! AVATA 2 is very versatile, I suggest waiting for it as the old gear may become compatible with it!
I'm totally green with drones stuff so I have a question. Do they make a graphene battery already for this drone or lithium-ion only? 23min flight time? is pretty much standard I guess? Nothing fancy when you keep in mind half of that time required for return to starting position then it's even worst.
So far we have 2 major battery chemistries (99.9%) for drones: The most common is the Lithium polymer LiPo, it's the sack shaped ones that are less energy dense but can deliver a ton of amps of discharge at once, used in FPV and most drones like avata 1/2 mavics etc There are some small variations some including a bit of graphene as conductor layer but it's mostly marketing gimmicks and don't make a perceivable difference The other is lithium ion Li ion cells shaped like regular batteries with metal casing, for more efficient applications, they are more energy dense and can be discharged to a lower voltage, but can deliver a lot less amps at once, so if you push the throttle they don't deliver They are found in the Mavic mini 1, DJI FPV I believe and some long range FPV drones, also electric vehicles bikes scooters and skates In FPV 23 minutes is a lot, most regular FPV drones fly 4/5/6 minutes We are all waiting for a battery tech breakthrough that allows more energy to be stored in less space and weight!
Death Roll yaw washout improved at least… hmm, I had the avata 1, and it was a dangerous drone, because of the yaw washout. This seems to be a little bit better, maybe I will try it. Thank you very much for this review
Nice review but I am quite surprised by your Goggles 3 feedback, didnt hear so much negativity on them elsewhere. Btw. how would you compare Avata 2 to Avata 1 with Axis Flying 3.5 kit?
I use the goggles 2 everyday, so I immediately noticed that they kind of cheaped out on this new ones, I understand the marketing move but still see that they spent the money on useless stuff, that's why I'm sad Axisflying kit flies much better but has less battery and of course less image quality unless you put a naked GoPro
Because DJI changes what works and what's customizable like that, and they decide that this is what the new generation offers, I have to use them everyday and the old ones were more convenient I wish they allowed different mounting options so people could choose
Thanks for the honest review! Can you please share in which country have you filmed the video and if you have applied the FCC unlock? Your top speed in manual would suggest that its either not shot in EU or that the speed limit is not enforced or you have the hack.
I tested flying without hack first and did not feel the difference in speed too much, also the signal is pretty good in ce, but yes i applied the hack before the video, check the description!
@@Rimzleri guess your drone has an early development firmware. I guess if you update the firmware. You’ll be in CE mode with half the power and 1/4th transmission power. 🤷♂️
Even though this is not a traditional FPV drone that you can freestyle with, would you say it can be a good beginner drone to do light freestyle and still experience the fun of FPV? I’m not into cinematic, I just like flight and the thrill. I don’t want to have to buy a bunch of batteries, controllers, use beta flight, etc. Can I still have fun and get a rush from this drone? Would you recommend it for someone like me who just wants to get out and fly?
Nice review! I think I got my buddies to go 60mph.. I flew last week aside from how nice it flys it does desyncs like crazy when you try matty flips or any advanced freestyle tricks with it . I know thats not what its made for but to have it desync and almost fall out of the air was the ultimate test as i was trying to get it flip out if I went full send. but 90% of the rest of the flight i had alot of fun and think ill get one just to addd to the "Tool Kit" lol
Best video I've seen on the Avata 2! Fantastic. DJI should listen to your suggestions and make good use of them. The lack of an FPV remote in the box is the stupidest thing I've ever heard of. The option should be the joystick, not the remote.
Honestly, I'm a fan of the easy acro mode. It's not just a gimmick for sales. For us FPV beginners, pulling off cool aerial tricks isn't a walk in the park, and this mode helps without making things too complicated. And can't deny it, this will indeed spice up my flying experience.
I totally believe is a cool experience! And it's true that doing it in manual takes skill, and it's better to have a easy mode rather than not of course!
I say useless regarding to video recording purposes, as you will have to learn real manual to integrate acro smoothly into videos
And still I believe that they could integrate it into the classic radio and teach people gradually how to do acro, so one can have more confidence and learn something useful, ability that translates to any other drone
its more or less a gimmick as its the drone pulling off the move not you, and its not really graceful enough to use for video purposes either. Its too quick but definitely fun to experience for someone who can't yet do flips in manual
@@Rimzler I somewhat agree the 2 easy acro modes are just gimmicks, but I don't agree with the RC motion 3 being useless. I have only shot 1 video with mine so far, but found it very useful, very smooth, and the learning curve was minutes. I actually loved flying with it. Here is my first vid from the Avata 2 w/RC Motion 3 - you can skip ahead to around 2:14 to get the Sport Mode footage with the RC Motion 3 controller. ruclips.net/video/-joYQvb4r5o/видео.html
Finally an honest review by an experienced pilot that’s not been scripted by DJI 🙏🏼
Thank you! I don't know what happens when they sponsor you, I think people should still be free to talk how they feel
My feeling as the credits rolled
yes i appreciated that too, completely agree re the fully swivelling mask instead of the cameras and there needs to be a eye lens cover 100%, they will sell like hotcakes on temu haha. I think the resolution of the goggles is way better though.
Those sponsored are not scripted.
@@RimzlerI submitted your video to DJI under feedback… hope they listen.
After watching 10 videos about DJI Neo and Avata, I thought I was the only one thinking that those flipping stuff are totally useless.
Thanks for that more realistic, real life, and fun review. 😄👍
This is my new favorite drone channel. Chase the chickens had me laughing hard. Nice work and great review. 🎉
Ahahahhaha thank you! Well chicken chase is a standardized test that all the drones have to go through when I make the review!
First time that I feel a DJI REVIEW deserves my compliment! This is a frank honest assessment without the too common claptrap. Please keep up making great videos, thank you.
New DJI's Ad: "Maybe it's too slow to chase sports cars, but it's able to chase chickens." Great Review :)
But just with the controller
Ahahahahhahaha chicken are more viral than sports cars 😂😂😂
watched like 20-30 reviews the best so far! you got new subscriber
Glad you liked it!😍😍😍
Finally an honest review. Please make more. I just bought mine and I enjoy your commentary
I am so impressed when it comes to steep diving with the Avata 2 over the Avata 1 it flies down so much more smoothly and a lot better. The Avata 1 will struggle shack and generally freak out when you do the same. They actually made it better in Normal and Sports Mode to use the motion lotion controller over the Controller 2 & 3.
That is very true, it's a lot more stable!
I love you're honesty with all of you're reviews. Keep up the great videos. I feel like I know your garden better than my own! 👌👌🤣
Thank you for watching! Ahahah also all the chicken hideout spots!
I feel like it is Borat making a revi😂😂 good vid though
My neighbors buy drone, I buy drone
@@Rimzler 🤣🤣 Very nice!, I like! Subscribed just for that!
Thank you. I've been waiting for an honest review instead of the mainstream RUclipsrs who only speak about the benefits without including any nuance or downsides. I trusted them last time when I bought the Avata 1, and paid the price. I appreciate your honesty and helpful suggestions. 🙏
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Always bringing good stuff of all fpv pilots out there. Thanks man.
Finally someone said something interesting about new goggles. Thank you.
I have to use them every day so I really care they are ergonomic
I bought it knowing I wouldn't like the motion controller. The gimbal is what sold me. Being able to adjust it on the fly without having to build some servo based monstrosity is gold.
Yeah I love that a lot, having a tiltable good quality Cinewhoop is golden, I just wish they add head tracking with normal controller
@Rimzler if we're honest the head tracking doesn't really work properly with this machine because of the 1 axis nature of the gimbal. I found the limits of it's ability very quickly. If you're just hovering around it's fine, but soon as you push it the tracking comes unstuck.
@@SickocrowAU yes absolutely, but I would love to be able to control up and down tilt with it while using the controller, shouldn't be so hard for DJI considering that all the input are mixed through the goggles already
I really appreciate your review, you saved me 1200 bucks, thank you. I will pass it on.
Ahahahhahaha the drone is worth it imho, just wait if and when the old gear will be compatible, it will be much cheaper
Liked and subscribed because of the honest review, your personality and the great hair!🤪
Ahahahah thank you so much! 😂😂💇♂️💇♂️💇♂️💇♂️
EXACTLY! The motion controller is funny for a while and I get it, but it doesn't compare to the real controller. I had to wait a week to get the real controller and once I got it, I will never use the other one again. But I might let other people play with the other one. But the oddest thing is that Acro with the Controller 3 is really crazy easy... maybe I just got really good with Acro over the winter but holy cow, it worked really well for me. And I LOVE the Goggles, so that's a personal thing that each individual will have to decide.
Yes I think they should focus on teaching people gradually to use the radio and transition into manual! It would be an incredible experience sold that way! And the ability will translate to all the other drones!
Yeah goggle fit is subjective, but adding a couple mounting points for regular straps and let people decide even better, stuff is not cheap
Best tester of fpv on YT. Thanks for the good recommendations and honest reviews. "Where are the chickens when I need them"😂
Ahahahahahah the chicken are the golden standard for benchmarking drones at this point
@@Rimzler so true heheh
100%
great video thank you!! 'where are the chickens when I need them!!' haha! I have the mini 4 pro and avata 2, both amazing drones for different situations!!
Probably the best essential but do everything setup right there, especially for traveling
yeah I wanna get the iFlight Nazgul Evoque F5 to complete my drone family though :)
Finally he came to know who was digging holes in his garden😂
The speed is limited in Europe, due to the C1 class. But is flying very smooth. I just bought few days ago and I agree with your review.
I liked your honesty, it is a great review. This review made me more interested in the Avata 2 than all the “fanboy” reviews!
Thank you! I don't feel like I made a negative review, I like the updates on the drone a lot and can't wait to use it for an upcoming rally job, yet I am griping about the downgrades that are gonna make my experience less pleasant, also I will need to carry 2 radios and 2 goggles because stuff is not intercompatible
Now this is the real unbiased review lol! Very blunt no sugar coating ! Subscribed !
Thank you so much! I have to use this gear everyday so I really care about it
You don’t have rear obstacle sensors! It’s just for indoor precise vision positioning… also: if you use real vision while flying,it will cancel the dvr recording, so probably you will crash without an idea where.
For me the g3 worked better in term of ergonomics, but I agree, I too need imax fov ;)
Gimbal is really helpful for filming. Slowly fly downwards into the woods, not possible without gimbal…. Greets, good to see your videos perform really well now, well deserved man!
I bet they will make the rear sensors available in an update, will be super useful for tracking backwards!
I wished they gave us strap mounting options on the goggles and let us decide!
I like that you name things like you see them: The "motion ontroller" a "marketing gimmik" and that you call the automatic roll function "useless". And I loved to hear you say "I am scared of drone who fly automatically". It's the best summing up of all these gimmiks. Great video!!
I just got the Avata 2 last week, it's my first real drone other than basically a toy drone I bought on Temu for like $25. I'm loving my experience with the Avata 2. To me the motion controller makes flying very intuitive since it basically replicates an add-on flight stick for a lot of consoles like PS5 or Xbox. While I intend to eventually buy the separate flight controller, I'm in no hurry to get it. The Avata 2 is very easy for a complete beginner to use and then as your skills increase you can eventually get the separate sticks flight controller and use the manual flight mode. This drone might not be the right one for everybody but it was the exact right one for me since I am having so much fun with it! Just my 2 cents.
@@mikepatton8691 It's great to hear that you have big fun with your new Avata 2! Thats what it all is about! I guess you plan is very well: to learn to fly this drone intuitive and with time step up! Every pilot has different needs and expectations and it's great that you found your way and have fun!
I understand the experienced pilot appreciates this review. As a total noob, i couldn't disagree more. With 0% experience i could fly this drone so easily its an amazing drone for me. just 10 minutes practice and i was flying like a pro. Some sort. AND it was because of the easy controller. Just my 2 cents, tx for your review though
Great and honest review, I agree with everything you said, I got the drone yesterday and the motion controller is pretty useless. Its only good for marketing. makes you look cool. but in reality the Remote controller is the way to go. The new goggles are just bad. They hurt pretty bad and make you sweat a lot.... I'll keep looking for aftermarket accessory for it. as this thing is almost unbearable
Thank you and I'm glad you agree! Maybe some mods will come out but will require disassembling and probably rewiring, maybe the electronic fits in the old integras?
@@Rimzler i'm not hoping for anything crazy, just a foam that makes it easier to wear, the extra pad that comes with the goggles for the forehead does help a little bit. but it's not enough. Maybe a memory foam replaces the silly rubber just so it doesn't hurt my nose and stop light leaks... the current silly rubber is not even good enough for testing. let alone a long flight. I can't imagine myself wearing this goggles for 3 full batteries....
Shockingly windy! I actually think it handled that wind really well that wind is serious. I just got my RC today, I agree that once you know how to fly with a real RC there’s no going back, it just feels limited. I also agree that the integra or googles 2 feel better than these new goggles but if range is better I’ll get used to them haha! Of the three goggles I love the integra and wish it were compatible. Hope it will be with future updates
Yeah it's crazy how both avatas hold wind! I tested the old one in the worst places and I always was shocked!
I do really hope they make the old stuff compatible
A great balanced review with some good perspectives.
Thank you so much!☺️☺️
Agreed! So disappointed w the goggles, the last gen was way better IMO
This drone is so fun to fly. It may be less capable than an open prop freestyle style drone.
But I think I have plenty I can learn before I feel like the drone is holding me back. Chasing chickens is an awsome way to test drones!
Nice review. Thank you for FL.
Thanks!☺️☺️☺️
This guys has real skills with that controller
I have been doing this stuff for more than 10 years, I should be even better than this😂😂😂😂😂
I was going to buy this drone but ima get the mini 4 pro instead. Glad I watched your video.
Hi Andrea, Avata 2 has C1 class and 19 m/s velocity limitation. 19:31 Did you use FCC mod to achieve high speed or it was just a wind? You mentioned less power - looks like DJI limited speed by the power output and outside EU should be much better.
I tried with and without FCC hack, same speeds in my case, don't know if even with the FCC hack max power output is limited, but it shouldn't
Thanks you for a honest review excellent thanks again
Awesome and honest review. I also think Googles 3 are a downgrade because the diopters adjust now down to -6 max while Googles 2 go down to -8. From a glasses user I´m between -7 and -8 so with Googles 2 I can see perfectly fine, with Googles 3 I need to order now corrective lenses in order to use them. This feels as an absolute downgrade considering Googles 2 where already perfect for me.
Daamn i didn't even spot that! Can't you adjust extra with the lens adapters? I really do hope the old goggle 2 support o4 as they seem to completely be able to, and are more premium than this
2:45??? frame has broken on left side of camera???
No it's made like that ahahah
Hi, thank you very much for the review, i love your accent, it is so much fun to watch 😅!
About the goggles 3, you got a point here, but for me the smaller screen is better, because with the goggles 2 i get really dissy, i bought 4 pad and it didn’t help at all!
The goggles 3 fits nicely, but i don’t know in time what happens to the rubber pad! And the quality if the camera is just amazing, i think it will be a game changer… thanks again man and happy chasing your chickens 😂
You give encouragement to "pilots" thinking about going into "manual" mode. Thanks.
I may need to make a video teaching people how to approach it!
I appreciate this test review, and enjoy you not holding back this video is gonna help adjust my decision of if buying this is worth it or not
I suggest waiting a couple months, DJI usually refines the products and eventually makes it compatible with old stuff
Good honest review. I can't argue with anything you said other than I don't have a big of a problem with the new goggles. If DJI make the old goggles compatible with the avata 2 I will try them both and see which works best in work situations. I didn't get the FPV remote 3 yet - hoping DJI will make the remote 2 compatible eventually, or make the remote 3 compatible with O3 so I can just have one remote.
I heard somewhere that they will, also holding out on remote 3 since i have the 2 and keeping fingers crossed.
Yes I really hope they give us choices, because in the end fit is personal as everyone has different head shapes, but giving options is the best way to deal with it
@@Rimzler exactly this!
Looking to buy one and your opinions are just what I needed to hear most. Thank you so much! Also I found it's funny when you found the dog was digging hole! Lol
Wow, he took a real dump on the Avata. First none glowing review I've watch.
I like the Avata 2 drone and I think is super versatile, wish they also made a ductless faster version with the same camera quality, and I actually use it a lot for work, it's super convenient!
It's the gear it comes with that is a downgrade compared to last generation, and I hate DJI marketing choices and focus on the useless stuff, while the main core functions could be further improven
All the other DJI drones focus on the video making aspect, while still providing some beginner help, the avatar focuses on the fun, while leaving the video making and convenience in second place!
I wish DJI would create a sub-250 “mini Avata”. Anyone think it’s a possibility?
Wow the first negative video I have seen with mostly cons.
I still like the drone, and will use a lot for work and travel, I just wish DJI made different choices with the gear it comes with! Also because this is the new generation of o4 stuff and will affect a ton of FPV pilots
I didnt hear any negatives other than its not your standard FPV drone but as he also stated, it wasnt meant to be. I think its an improvement over the previous avata and will be great for specific buyers and purposes. I am holding off until they allow me to fly it with my RC2 from my mini 4. The included equipment choices with the avata series are absolutely ridiculous.
Grande Andrea, la migliore recensione come sempre! Attendo con ansia di vedere cosa ne farai di questo drone 😂💪
Grazie mille! Sono già a lavoro con lui☺️☺️☺️☺️☺️☺️
„I feel at home“ hehe, you literally ARE at home 😂
Loool that's true😂
Thank you man! This is review that I looking for :)
Appreciate your candor. As someone looking for their 1st drone though, the controller 3 you complain about so much is actually part of what attracted me to it. The dual stick controllers are intimidating to someone who has never used them and IMO I would probably crash a drone more frequently with the sticks while getting up.to speed with the learning curve than with the controller 3. Pretty sure that's why they made it - to get newbies into the game. Sure I'll get the stick controller at some point but to be able to fly out of the box by someone who has never used a drone before I think it is more intuitive and will draw a lot larger beginner base.
Why are the ground and positioning sensors only on the back though? I imagine 99% of crashes are from froward motion...so why no front sensors or object avoidance?
Sticks may look daunting at first but on a drone like the avata, that hovers super precise and gives you all the time to think, I think that only takes maybe an extra hour to get the hang of with no real risk of crashing in an open field, and that's a skill that translates to all the other drones out there
They didn't even implement the back collision avoidance yet, so it doesn't have obstacle avoidance... That's because of price, that's why I hope they make a pro version with more features
@Rimzler Thanks for the reply!
NO collision avoidance at all?
Maybe I should buy a mini4Pro + the googles3 instead? MP4 has 360 collision avoidance and will qirkmw thr Goggles 3 I believe, right?
Would that help keep me from crashing, (could FPV throught the woods)?
..or is the MP4 really just a totally different functionality / experience?
Where are you from? Beautiful surroundings. Orchards?
The only thing I want is the O4 unit !😍
I want it tooooo can't wait
Good honest review. Personally, I think the new goggles are way more comfortable than all my other "traditional FPV goggles. It probably has a lot to do with face/head shape, but I feel like they're way more "locked on" than traditional gogs, and the FOV is at the limit of what I can get in frame. You do know you can tighten them with the dial on the back, right? Other than that, I think you nailed it.
They are comfier than stock goggle 2, but not aftermarket for me, yeah I tightened to the point of hurting, but it has a smaller contact area compared to the old anyway, and in some situations they will shake, but that's a niche use! Like now I am shooting a car parade and will need to fly from inside another car, that's a concern!
For sure I like innovation, but I see too many obvious improvements, like make them swivel all the way up, and add a couple mounting points for aftermarket parts
They should give people the choice to personalize their fit, and maybe they can even sell all the different inexpensive attachments and sell for a premium, I wouldn't criticize that much then
I've been wanting to move into FPV for a longtime and after how fluid you were with the sticks I think I'll buy the remote with the fly more. Great thorough video. Thanks!
The motion control review seems like its just because youre not used to it, youve been using the sticks for a while so thats what feels natural to you. the motion control can easilly allow you to get some great shots and track targets while also doing some precise flying .... when youve practiced. The remote is gonna give you much more control but also disables a bunch of decent features which are good for cinematic flying.
if you need casual flights where film is the priority , use the motion control
if yo uwant the regular fpv style, use the fpv remote
They also do provide a bit of foam to prtect the lenses. it comes in the kit, did you throw it out ?
Well, it is not true about the controller. With a bit of training it is as good as manual mode. I got it, I am flying it daily without "stop and adjust". Keep exercising!
I have no doubt that it can be used proficiently and that it's fun, my beef is it should be an accessory and not the main input device that comes in the box, the ability you get by using it is wasted as soon as you use any other drone that uses a normal radio, and a regular radio allows to switch flight modes and go full manual, so the ceiling of what you can do is higher
Thanks for the honest review ! Gets rid of my fomo 😂 Liked and subbed .
Thank you so much! I suggest waiting a bit to see what's compatible and what not, and make a pondered decision☺️
What would you think about a guy new to fpv or drones in general getting this avata2? I'm thinking of getting it as I see the learning curve is better. Also I would get the bundle with RC and goggles so when i finish building my 5" i can get an O3 air unit and don't have to buy another goggles/RC... Again, total newbie here, maybe I'm talking crap. Thanks
I can see you not liking it as a policy using more specially designed drones fit this is just not this but you are still unfairly comparing them. For instance, the motion controller is a nice and easy introduction for a new pilot to FPV but you still call it crap.
Have you tried changing the Gain/Expo settings for the Motion Controller? That may smooth out your video... Just a thought, I don't claim to be an expert.
Yes you can smooth it out a bit but still not incredibly precise
Love the wisteria plant! Great review of course as well :)
ciao sei Italiano giusto? ma voli in FCC?
Yess, Basta mettere il file ham cfg negli occhiali
complimenti ottima guida ed inglese molto perfezionato veramente bravo!
Grazie mille! Piano piano sto imparando!
Thing about the motion controller, the point seems to be to be accessible, however at the same time in most of europe you beed a certificate to fly it anyways so its never truely accessible
Bought a cinelog35 w your code big dawg. Thanks for your videos. GEPRC is terrible at communication so far, but we'll see. Thanks again, bro.
For a beginner it’s a great tool
Bro your property looks amazing!
Thanks, it was an ancient vineyard, some ancestor of mine got gifted it by the local nobles and here I am chasing chicken on it😂😂😂
Great honest review. Very informative. Thank you!
Amazing how this kit is about 400 bucks cheaper than the avata 1 + fly more kit. I paid around 1600 bucks for my avata 1 and fly more kit
Yeah they compromised on a few things like the goggles ahahahah
I think what they did with regular controller not being included is just a cash grab. They gave a gimmicky motion controller so there wouldnt be a backlash that they give you drone without any type of control
I mean how expensive is the motion controller compared to regular radio... I feel like they would be same price or very similar
Very good review and verdict. Agree to (almost) everything. Thx Rimzler!
good job, as usual! complimenti hai un gran talento nella comunicazione! 😉
8:44 you are a professional chicken chaser
If there is one thing I am good at, is chasing chicken lol
I wish 👀 this video before buying 😭
Just know that I just bought my second avatar 2, the gear it comes with is not as good as last time, but the drone is very versatile and I like it, so not a bad choice imho
Avata2 or Cinebot25 or DarkStar20
I have been flying in liftoff for more than 50 hours with radiomaster boxer, and mobula 6 in acro mode for 2 months plus. The reason I am getting cinewhoop is because I will be flying indoor and for safety purpose since it comes with prop guards, and not ready for extreme stunts moves at the moment.
1. Do u think I should get the avata2 or cinebot25 S or DarkStar20? Or any better choice for beginner?
2. Is the Integra Goggles still a good choice for now? Since Goggles 3 dont support O3 air unit and Integra's price has reduced.
Thanks in advance!
Well I suggest waiting, as all the drones that have o3 now, will get o4 in the near future probably, so having a small o4 one will be incredible!
AVATA 2 is very versatile, I suggest waiting for it as the old gear may become compatible with it!
I want to see the 04 air unit. now that will be amazing.
Man I can't wait to have micro drones with this quality
Great review, also liked the red wine bottle on the table ...
They say once you drank it all you start enjoying the motion controller 😂
Yeah great !!! love the chickens ! good demo !
In rimzler we trust
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I'll just use my fpv controller 2 when the backwards compatibility update drops.
I can't wait till the old gen becomes compatible if it becomes compatible
I'm totally green with drones stuff so I have a question. Do they make a graphene battery already for this drone or lithium-ion only? 23min flight time? is pretty much standard I guess? Nothing fancy when you keep in mind half of that time required for return to starting position then it's even worst.
So far we have 2 major battery chemistries (99.9%) for drones:
The most common is the Lithium polymer LiPo, it's the sack shaped ones that are less energy dense but can deliver a ton of amps of discharge at once, used in FPV and most drones like avata 1/2 mavics etc
There are some small variations some including a bit of graphene as conductor layer but it's mostly marketing gimmicks and don't make a perceivable difference
The other is lithium ion Li ion cells shaped like regular batteries with metal casing, for more efficient applications, they are more energy dense and can be discharged to a lower voltage, but can deliver a lot less amps at once, so if you push the throttle they don't deliver
They are found in the Mavic mini 1, DJI FPV I believe and some long range FPV drones, also electric vehicles bikes scooters and skates
In FPV 23 minutes is a lot, most regular FPV drones fly 4/5/6 minutes
We are all waiting for a battery tech breakthrough that allows more energy to be stored in less space and weight!
Do you habe some opinion on the speed/speedcap in Europe? Is it really limiting or is it fine for its purpose (cinewhoop)?
We still have to learn how it applies, because I could go as fast as with FCC, so idk
complete agree about the controllers! great review!!
Love your house, very nice! Nice review 🙂
Thank you so much!☺️☺️☺️
Great comprehensive review 👌 Thanks!
Why did the Roman chickens cross the road?
To get to centocinquantaquattro!
-- CLIVe 🙂
Death Roll yaw washout improved at least… hmm, I had the avata 1, and it was a dangerous drone, because of the yaw washout. This seems to be a little bit better, maybe I will try it. Thank you very much for this review
Nice review but I am quite surprised by your Goggles 3 feedback, didnt hear so much negativity on them elsewhere. Btw. how would you compare Avata 2 to Avata 1 with Axis Flying 3.5 kit?
I use the goggles 2 everyday, so I immediately noticed that they kind of cheaped out on this new ones, I understand the marketing move but still see that they spent the money on useless stuff, that's why I'm sad
Axisflying kit flies much better but has less battery and of course less image quality unless you put a naked GoPro
@@Rimzler Thanks a lot for honest feedback, really appreciated.
Why are you hating the googles 3? what's the problem with those? I've been following your videos since the beginnin!!!
Because DJI changes what works and what's customizable like that, and they decide that this is what the new generation offers, I have to use them everyday and the old ones were more convenient
I wish they allowed different mounting options so people could choose
Thanks for the honest review! Can you please share in which country have you filmed the video and if you have applied the FCC unlock? Your top speed in manual would suggest that its either not shot in EU or that the speed limit is not enforced or you have the hack.
I tested flying without hack first and did not feel the difference in speed too much, also the signal is pretty good in ce, but yes i applied the hack before the video, check the description!
@@Rimzleri guess your drone has an early development firmware. I guess if you update the firmware. You’ll be in CE mode with half the power and 1/4th transmission power. 🤷♂️
Like your honest review on this drone, thks bro :)
Glad you liked☺️☺️☺️
@@Rimzler always bro keep it up 👍
Even though this is not a traditional FPV drone that you can freestyle with, would you say it can be a good beginner drone to do light freestyle and still experience the fun of FPV? I’m not into cinematic, I just like flight and the thrill. I don’t want to have to buy a bunch of batteries, controllers, use beta flight, etc. Can I still have fun and get a rush from this drone? Would you recommend it for someone like me who just wants to get out and fly?
chasing chickens again :D
are you on the newest firmware?
Yes I had to update it, the beta firmware didn't allow for it
Tu la bien maltraitée ce avata 2 super vidéo comme toujours ✅
the review I was waiting for, a good genuine experience especially the added bonus comparison with cinelog 35 size.
Yeah it's crazy that's wider than a c35, at this point I feel they could have made a 3.5 AVATA, and have a much better product
Best review!! Please do compare FPV Avata 2 vs Avata 1 Axisflying 3.5 mod
Nice review! I think I got my buddies to go 60mph.. I flew last week aside from how nice it flys it does desyncs like crazy when you try matty flips or any advanced freestyle tricks with it . I know thats not what its made for but to have it desync and almost fall out of the air was the ultimate test as i was trying to get it flip out if I went full send. but 90% of the rest of the flight i had alot of fun and think ill get one just to addd to the "Tool Kit" lol
Best video I've seen on the Avata 2! Fantastic. DJI should listen to your suggestions and make good use of them. The lack of an FPV remote in the box is the stupidest thing I've ever heard of. The option should be the joystick, not the remote.
So glad You made this Video..
Excellent review, thank you. The video quality doesn't look so good. Did you put some compression?