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Luka was plugged into the Coral, he could hear the approach of the Apex, and was thinking like a Typhon.
He’s a manifestation of the typhoon nature in the simulation that “Morgan” is in
i felt like it was just him being cryptic and mean-spirited but also referencing The Void from Dishonored
I just replayed Prey and found out 37 has a curious line if you already get to the kitchen with a replacement for the water thingy, he wonders if your "mind transcends time" which is curious considering the line you get about "screams from the future" if you wait till the Apex arrives
He only said "did you think ahead of time?" In here ruclips.net/video/Wp-0drWMHEQ/видео.html at 8:55...
You can wait til the apex arrives?
He looks like a kind of tall, creepy Danny DeVito
*even creepier
The thing I didn't understand was why Volunter 37 wanted you to get the award from the real chef's (Will Mitchell's) quarters?
Seems like he might just be jealous of the Chef, really. Especially judging by how he scratched out the Chef's photo that Mitchell took with Morgan.
They were implying that more than just a person's skill is transferred by neuromods. Luka received a neuromods made from Will Mitchell, the original chef, who had a strong personal attachment to his award. Luka acquired this residual attachment to the award, even though he did not understand why.
murphbri probably to see if Morgan isn't a typhon or see Morgan's ability
Assuming you don't already clear the crew's quarters and talk to Volunteer 37 first, there's a Voltaic Phantom at the end of the hall where Will's room is. I'm pretty sure he was just hoping to get you killed by the phantom.
I took that more as him scratching it out so people wouldn't find it and realise that he's not actually the Chef.
He knows about the screaming because the typhon are a hive mind
Fenix316 all I heard was number 3 then a. KFC ad
I mean "cook" wears a red suit. Only top guys in Transtar can wear it. You can find this information in one of the books. If only I have noticed it before he got me.
He stole it possibly
Y'know I just finished his story and funny enough if you go up to his escape pod and use the human combat instinct ability to slow time and take the recycler charge off before he can detonate it he just laughs for an extended time and naturally dies. Also I found that the Q-beam makes him fall out of the seat and 'hiss in pain' which will let you take the charge off without him attacking. Just additional dialogue and additional options for how to deal with him.
It seems clear to me that volunteer 37 could sense the giant typhon coming and could see its "vision" for humanity.
exactly. He warned use, but at that time it sounded like a mumbling of a crazy person
Came here after watching Markiplier play this and 37 turned hostile for no reason. Guess we missed out on a lot
LeanderRandom wow the play through and mark's theory could've been a lot more different if 37 didn't glitch out...
Didn't he turn hostile because Mark took out a weapon?
Fɑʀəəɦɑ Sɦɑɦəəή idk
Fɑʀəəɦɑ Sɦɑɦəəή No, weapons don't make him hostile, I think it was cuz mark hacked the fridge room open, so 37 got scared that Mark would kill him after seeing what he had done, not sure though
I mean, Mark was literally chasing after him with a weapon and wondering why 37 was running away😂
A little late, but here is an interesting bit of information that supports your theory that the imposter cook is actually the voice of the typhons. I ended up dealing with him early, choosing to stun him in the escape pod as soon as I could. Even with him unconscious throughout the rest of the game, you still get all those creepy transcribe messages from him.
Wtf… thats creepy af
My preferred headcannon is the Neuromods he possessed allowed him to sense that the Apex was coming
Same
Very interesting video. Really digging deep into the Prey "theories" right now. Absolutely loved the game and I think the ending is veeery interesting.
Its tachyons. These particles move backwards in time, and thus could be used to send transmissions from the future to the past. This might be what he's sensing.
What
In quantum physics, tachyons are faster than light particles - hypothetical ones, anyway - that avoid the normal rules against FTL by going backwards in time.
Tachyons are so .... Tacky
Your first theory is basically the plot twist of Arrival, and I think that's the one
the typhons have a different perspective of time-space
WE do know that mimics can warp space ...Why not time as well?
Alexander Lev We don’t necessarily know that. A number of theories were proposed by the scientists aboard Talos 1, though none have been definitively proven. Theories include the idea that the Mimic retreats into alternate dimensions and displaces an item from that dimension, that the Mimic emits an electromagnetic field that convinces observers that it is an inanimate object (caused hallucinations), that it changes its own molecular structure at will, or that it employs "magic" (i.e. some set of rules beyond conventional physics).
Nice to know.
If we assume that the Kasma hacker in mooncrash sees the REAL world, thyphons made it throu the shuttle (in mooncrash) to earth what approves that Alex is right: Earth is full of Typhons.
I really hope to see a sequel.
Your third theory might be right. I've completed the game just recently with altruistic approach. Saved everyone, but I shot V37. At the end of the game stats showed that I never killed any human. Soo... he might be a typhon part of yourself. Great video, thanks for your input
oGRYzki, actually if you don't kill V37, he kind of dies (or kills himself?) on the spot any way. So it might be programmed into the game as an only outcome, not taking in to account if you kill him prematurely. I don't know. Could be you're right though.
oh, nobody realized that one. me neither, it must be true then. the creators took care of almost everything. I've seen so many different reactions in case of different decisions, that they wouldn't make a mistake like this. there are a lot of very good almost perfect games, but this one is really worth paying attention
Not too sure why but it always makes me laugh how he always calls you M Yu
If you go to neuromod division, in the room where Igwe removes Dahl's neuromods look at the whiteboard: it shows a series of graphs where volunteer 37's numbers are waaay out of scale. Very cool detail.
If you said that 37 had telepath neuromods installed on him but were never removed, do you think he could've been communicating with the apex (the one at the end that tries to devour the station)? He gives a lot of hints that make him seem like he is in contact with it.
Year late reply but had a similar feeling here. There's an audio log left by former Morgan (December Morgan afaik, as it makes reference to an escape pod) in a hidden safe in Alex's office. He/she talks about having a dream of something between the stars that's filled with hate, hate for Morgan. It's possible that both Morgan and V37 are having the same experience then.
@@ShadowPony064 That's my thought as well. That they could sense it coming...not in a 'sees the future' sort of way, but being sensitive the telepathic power of the Apex as it approached from deep space. Similar to artistic people being sensitive and so experiencing madness to Cthulhu in the Lovecraft story.
i felt like it was a reference to The Void from Dishonored
I like how for some odd reason, Arkane reused Alex Yu’s body for the “cook” without retexturing the uniform to be accurate to the branch of Talos 1’s employees that he would technically be part of, meaning that the guy cooking meals for everybody on board the station is wearing a color of TranStar uniform normally reserved for executive staff. I dunno if that was an oversight on their part, but I found it funny anyway. 😜
Don't forget that Alex is running the simulation. Considering the types of people you meet in the game, it really looks like Alex chose Luka and others specifically to make an impression on you.
he does not choose who you meet, he only used Morgan's cells to elicit his memories of what happened there. He cannot cherry-pick who you meet and who you don't meet, in the same way how he cannot cherry-pick of what you do (e.g. when you choose to escape in his escape pod, that clearly something he does not approve of, which he clearly says to you before the ending)
@@jakubnovotny1010 I think he has some limited capacity to control what you see and how people act, especially the version of himself you see in the sim
I don't think that he is your innervoice or somesuch, considering that he is programed into the simulation. All he really does raise the suspicion further that this might not be real and that there is more to this reality than well... reality.
My belief is that he just has so much fuckin typhon material is letting him see the future and being connected to the coral
What if the original Morgan experienced those flashes/glitches and the player is reliving the memory of those flashes?
that came into my mind also... long time I didn't feel my mind bent that much. and this is an almost flawless story as I see
Amazing game!!!
Hopefully it gets a sequel.
Hopefully it stops at a trilogy so they don’t mess it up.
Still waiting
still waiting
still waiting
still waiting
*Of course Spoilers*
There is another possibility that might explain Volunteer 37 completely. However, first we have to ask, who is Volunteer 37? He is an extreme of human depravity and evil. He murders people (it's implied he also eats them), including a side character we have seen a lot and presumably empathize with. Another character we empathize with, Danielle Cho, begs 'Morgan' to get revenge on him while dying pitiably. He taunts Morgan at every turn, attempts to kill Morgan multiple times. He is physically ugly and has no redeeming qualities. At the end of his story arc, Volunteer 37 is helpless, begging for assistance. He is the perfectly justified 'victim' for Morgan to murder. So who is Volunteer 37?
There is no Volunteer 37.
I think we are forgetting that what we are seeing/playing isn't history. It's a simulation for 'Morgan' to make moral decisions in order to teach him/her/it to be more human...to have 'empathy for the suffering of another'. Many of the supporting cast were real, but what actually happened on Talos I doesn't matter. They are a cast to set up the moral dilemmas for 'Morgan' to get through successfully, in order to be trained to be more human. Volunteer 37 was created to be part of the test. Even his having some sort of connection to the Typhon, a connection stemming from the experimentation that wasn't his fault, is part of the test.
Again, he is the perfectly justified 'victim' for Morgan to murder. It's the ultimate morality test...is it right to murder someone, even if they are your personal enemy? Even if killing him is justified? Will Morgan still murder Volunteer 37?
this right here
Didn't know Will was Prisoner 37? Never got trap in freezer or the dialogue that you got. I fix water pipe, he freaked out "no I don't want to fight you" and ran off. So thank you for having a normal #37 experience to share. 💐
Yeah that's a weird bug, happened to me on my first two playthroughs and also happened to Markiplier
I wonder if you had a lot of typhon neuromods?
Or a weapon in hand and forgot to put it away.
i killed him. then he became my first phantom i have ever created and surprised to see his name change from Will Mitchell to V-37.
I always wondered and looked around for everything related to the game, with this particular character, and I never thought to check youtube 😅
Thank you!
Very interesting game imo. I put around 30 hours into it and got the real/good ending.
Nowadays the most popular games are Cod,Gta online,Fifa etc. Every year same stuff.
The first fifa i played was fifa 96 and last fifa 11. The first fps games i started with when i was a kid was probably quake and doom.
Then military shooters battlefield 1-2 and counterstrike.
You are slowly starting too realise that you are doing same thing over and over again with better graphics and bigger games each time.
I rather developers try new interesting ideas like Prey,Horizon,death stranding,last of us,hellblade,days gone,witcher,god of war,cyberpunk 2077 etc.
We see games like Destiny and Gta online with their bull.... Microtransictions still get supported.
Then slowly single player games are geting micros Shadow of war.
We should stop support micros,pre orders, season passes and dlcs before it gets to be the new norm.
k
I know what you mean, but this game is in many ways a copy of System Shock 2, which came out 20 years ago. Not exactly new.
Well said.
I don't know about the dlc thing, just playing devil's advocate but I know that sometimes games will cut content that later gets used in a dlc due to time constraints.
@@askagorn I'd call that a reconception. If someone copied Micky mouse except it was a first person thriller series, that's not the same thing.
by the way during when 37 lets you into kitchen and ask about something to fix. if you have the thing from greenhouse or so to replace with already he say you think back from time or from future and already saw this?
nvm it was you think ahead of time m Yu?
I love that this game rewards you for being smart, i thought he was standing too close to the wall remote of the fridge. I stunned him until i was told to kill him
Technically a Spoiler
visual glitch or some kind of flashback
11:27
You need to slow down the playback to .25 and play with it for a bit because it's 3 frames of animation but it looks like the operators killing you.
Weird
just a glitch i guess, Alex is next to your character
11:27 your frame glitch only had 3 operators, most ive seen had all 4 operators.. i saw one play through with 2 operators & only alexs righr arm in view... what choices effect this glitch & what do they mean
What if he talks to you in a same way as in assassins creed, when Minerva? in past talked to Desmond in future though the memories of Ezio?
He said the typhon tasted like eel
Eels were used by Talos I for waste disposal and were never attacked or controlled
Is there any other connections?
Seems hard to explain lol, but that is the same exact thought I had after hearing his dialogue. Seems like a complicated idea, but also almost goes without saying
Interesting theories, but I'm pretty sure Luka was just experiencing (in a more coherent capacity than others more easily overwhelmed by the Typhon control) the natural end game of Typhon corruption. Like a lot of other sci-fi enemies, these creatures function this way: Consume and grow endlessly. Drone-like workers part of a collective consciousness consume minds until they can complete a radio antenna that tells fully grown Typhon in deep space where the meal for continued growth is. The radio antenna here is uniquely the Typhon themselves in this case, unlike other sci-fi creatures like Necromorphs who need an object to boost their signal to their world-eating pals. They spin their blood, or essence, whatever you want to call the part of them they make with consumed minds, into a large brain sort of thing-- the radio antenna; the Coral. It could have other uses, like enabling faster growth for a snowball effect, better collective communication. But the main use is a signal booster. Any which way you explain it, they're all fundamentally capable of some level of telepathy and are all connected to the Coral, as the Coral is a part of them, like an externally built brain, or nervous system as the put it in the game. But again, the main point here is the signal boosting part.
I could have probably worded this more concisely, but let me wrap my point up: as the Coral's construction progressed, the neural functions of the Typhon increased, and their signal to deep space or wherever the Apex Typhon are grew stronger. As this happens, people with lots of Typhon in them from neuromods, *like Luka*, feel the telepathic traffic going through the Coral. Humans obviously aren't attuned to this traffic like the Typhon, so it's probably hard to make sense of it; Morgan only sees snippets of Typhon influence when modding Typhon abilities into his/herself, although original Morgan does state she/he can feel very distant thoughts from something I think is the Apex. (She/he talks about feeling something that hates her, very far away, when they're first experimenting with Typhon neuromods.) Luka has these mods already in him, so as the Coral grows, his connection to the Typhon grows as well. He hears more, sees more from them. Their voices get louder. The images clearer. Eventually, at the end, at the height of the Coral's complexity, even the distant thoughts of far-away Apex Typhon can be heard in his head, and he sees their intentions: the home world of humans being devoured, just like Talos 1 is now. I also imagine that once the first Apex arrives its thoughts are almost as clear as day to Luka. It's probably screaming its hate at any humans capable of hearing, broadcasting on telepathic channels its anticipation of its coming meal. A whole new species to consume. In its twisted, hateful way, it's probably excited. Talos 1 is just a space station, but the Typhon know about Earth through the humans found aboard the station. As the first Apex eagerly consumes it, I'm sure it's shouting to its brethren in the stars about all the fresh minds waiting to be consumed on Earth.
i went in to his escape pod and disarmed the trap before he was done talking. he just died for no reason and the game acted like i was the one who killed him
anyone else experience this?
He poisons himself
@@BailorTheSailorMan I don't think he poisoned himself but got attacked while escaping thus placing a bomb beside him to get killed along with typhon. Moreover, I think he knew Morgan was a typhon from the beginning as he placed bombs everywhere to save himself. If you look from Disguised Cook's perspective, he was actually doing the right thing. He was the final human survival instinct in the new mod.
@@biskcuit No like, he's supposed to either be killed by you or blow himself up with the recycle charge but if you disarm the trap and try not to kill him he poisons himself. Hence the parent comment saying "he just died for no reason and the game acted like i was the one who killed him". Not sure what you're going on about in the second half of your comment.
@@BailorTheSailorMan This is true to a degree. The Q-beam let's him live and he doesn't die, but if you use survival instinct to take the recycler then he will laugh and say something along the lines of "we're both done" and then randomly die.
@@PlatoonGoon yes him "randomly dying" is him taking the poison which there is no animation for.
Anyone else notice a bunch of heads cut off after releasing the cook?
no way this is real lol
your point is true, the host as the main "alive" character's are robots or real people thus the possibility that there is a person that is the Typhon's subconscious is personified as Volunteer 37
I get a Colonel Kurtz vibe from 37
I suspected he was lying when I listened to the TranScribe for Mitchell and the image was different than who was in tbe kitchen. Once I got in the kitchen, the first time, I blew him away. The second playthrough, I let him out to see how things went storywise
alex, not alec.....
who knew accents were a thing
@@desairae that's not an accent. He speaks just like me but I can say the name correctly
Compared to Australian adult males, he has an accent :D.
@@desairae I'm saying that's not a result of his accent
accents dont alter your pronounciation ?
Wait you stated that m yu was a phantom but what if he's the phantom Morgan yu
subbed to you great video
I have another theory... All this visions during the game not the "Typhons trying to talk to you", many times we hear explanation that Typhons doesn't have mind in any way similar to ours, they are too much alien, and that we don't even exist for them. So there no reason for them to talk to us, they just don't need and actually just can't do that. No, this is real Morgan conscience in you trying to tell you not that this all is simulation, but that this last talk with Alex about conquered Earth etc after post credit scene is a lie too!!!
We saw in this visions same scenery of Earth that Alex showing to us in the end with and without coral in few fast flashes, and Morgan's! voice (same gender as you choose) tells us that they lying to us. We know that simulation is restarting every time Alex doesn't get result he wants, so what if this last talk is just part of another bigger test/simulation, who knows how many times we having this conversation, maybe part of Morgan's mind installed in Typhon and that can actually perceive existence of time itself (Typhons doesn't know concept of time at all) starting to remembering previous "versions" of this conversation and trying to tell us about this. Plus Alex doesn't seems like guy who gonna risk his life trying to convince alien monster he himself created, he's to smart and calculative for this. And it's not gonna be first time when simulation ending up being part of another bigger simulation, and continuing this scheme can become the "triple plot twist"!!!
Sorry for language..
man I wish you wrote this better lol....seems so interesting but its lost with the language
It is specifically stated they are going to use another one, whenever your Typhon fails. So no, you aren't reset. It is a fresh blank Phantom every time.
Wow I didnt even think to spare him xD
the game is challenging with its typhons and lacking of ammo and psi power and med kits and you run to survive and its side quests leave you in the between of doing them or skip them XD at the end you find out that you are a typhon what x) it was a great experience with different endings
I had a mission to locate a member of the crue, when i got into the kitchen i fixed the mashine right away and then i hacked the frezzer. When i walked into one of the rooms in there i first found a dead woman/crew member and then i found a pagage with the title weird/souspisius meat. When i got out i assumed he was a criminal/volenteer/cannibal so i chased after him out in the open abd killed him with the psykic power.
I feel like I missed out by killing this guy immediately. I didn't know he taunted you throughout the game.
Well if you knew Danielle Sho's story and what he did to her you'd still want to kill him on sight :)
@@TheViktivator I always make sure not to kill him at first since I love how he contacts you throughout the game.
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For some reason I love those lines.
It could be reality bleeding through
haven't beat the game yet so i didn't watch to the end because of spoilers, my question is why did the impostor cook kill Abby? her body is in the freezer and it's never explained why?
i heard that voice line, but i didn't go there......hmmmm....
“(Negative grunt)”
Yea, I thought it was weird how when I entered this area of the game, this guys voice was over the loud speaker saying some really callous, crazy shit. Seemed amused by the fact that everyone was dying around him. I thought he'd been controlled and somehow willed himself into a state of partial control, with the murderous tendencies of the other mind controlled people intact.
But then when you clear the cafeteria he's suddenly very coherent and cooperative. It made a lot of sense when he betrayed me.
One of the very few (actually the only one haha) survival games that I really enjoy replaying! This current one I will complete and then do New Game +. 37 is the "Volunteer" that the one you save said is Not a good one.
I unfortunately left him in a room (the one he ran to with broken stairs) with 5 Fortified turrets around him but he was caught and transformed into a phantom regardless. Did not go into the locker room. Oh well. Sad to kill him
man this game was so fucking brilliant. still hoping we one day get the prey 2 we were promised though (we won't)
Dishonored and Prey will go the way of Half-Life in that they're so influential and wanted that they'll probably never get made. They could probably have at least another game just on Talos and there's enough scope for it to be different enough that it wouldn't be a rehash. Mooncrash could also easily be an entire game as it's a fucking moon base. There's also so many avenues for sequels, prequels and interquels. Would love a game as Sarah Elezar.
@@CoffeeFiend1 fully agreed and yeah holy hell an elezar game would rule
He’s also a cannibal right?
Ok was he frozen or else … in cosmic suit able to visit space?!
I always go hacking in these games. Hacked fridge, then killed him. His story ended there lol.
when i met him, i had already known what Will Mitchel looks like so i was confused and thought the developers made a mistake or something 😂
What if Volunteer 37 is the real Morgan? He looks more like Alex's brother than Morgan does... if implantation of Morgan/37's genetic material into a Typhon created a neural link to the real Morgan/37 and it drove him nuts?
when you find out that the whole game is a simulation, you find out what the cook says is from the past. not the future. he talks about earth burning, then alex shows you earth burning. luca is just givng hints to what has happened. the simulation was the moment the space station was almost destroyed.
i found prey to be a really excellent FPS game. probably the best i have played up to this time. Titanfall 2 is a close second. totally wish they had done a sequel to this game...
**End Game SPOILERS**
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So... Why was he even I'm the simulation to begin with? Imo this was the possibly the best quest in the game that's after the beginning.
Edit: I haven't watched all this yet so I apologize if you bring it up later. Atleast you'll have am extra comment!
#2 Edit: Shit, nvm. I didn't know you could incapacitate him. I thought he'd always end up dead if you didn't kill him.
#3 Shit so when you do a darker playthrough you get different Flashbacks?
OMG ROFLMFAO i should've watched this before cause i went in he killed me so i thought i quick load and as soon as he opened the door i killed him
Brought to you by the most humorous actor of payday 2
i thought 37 was the other girls dad, same accent?
i would probably go as far as saying, as a previous experiment, and as a being that was aware of the impending doom of humanity, the infection (typhon cells/neuro mods) do create a hive mind, as is explained through the story and those Coral Sites, openly admit awareness of the neuron-like spreading and growth.
i'm feeling the story is telling you throughout that you're not "MORGAN" but you are a representation of Morgan. The Operator known as January seems to be a non memory and an external "typhon" consciousness. like most people who can precieve things in 3rd person, and can talk to themselves with opposing ideas to themselves... maybe the Typhon do this individually/collectively as humans seem to be capable of too. the mix of morality and "you look like me so i will preserve your existence" from both species created what seems to be, a dissonance in mentality and self awareness.
Typhon act like a hive. they don't adapt themselves with external implementations. they literally combine with things they are vulnerable to or otherwise can't interface with. the Tech possessions and the ability to incorporate external power, are how they have survived. humans, don't do this. we implant, replace and extract things we need/want or don't need/want. Typhon become one with their assimilations (fire, electricity, technology AND eachother). Even when the Typhon mimicks float alone in space, they combine to make those Weavers, effectively eating itself AND not removing excess to collaborate easier.
my point is. this divergence between how humans adapt and how the Typhon appear to adapt, are highly seperate and almost polar opposite. if we want to breathe better, we will remove lungs and put in different "better" lungs... along with medicine and treatment incase of organ/implant rejection and then maintainence. Typhon, just combine with it and anything extra (energy/material) is used as weaponry or defense.
so, the cook... once a human... was co-opted by the Typhon and his knowledge/experiences are neurologically tied to the Typhon, forcing them/it to incorporate emotions, expectations and hesitations. without humanity being absorbed through subjects like "The cook", they wouldn't even be second guessing what they aim to do, and would never be struggling to compare "kill" and "save" or "do" and "don't". this is why the Typhon, through the cook, are warning you that this is already over, it's not real and in this very moment, "they" are lying and you should kill everybody. which, technically is true and in all fairness, the game should be played "evil" because it's the honest way to play. your internal instincts (game character) scream "KILL" while your external, human counterparts, impress cooperation and fairness. but your internal voice screams the truth.
if there's a sequel to this, i'd expect this Typhon (main character) to become wholly aware of this deception and should be an all out villain (cannonically).
TL:DR
Typhon integrated human ideals and expresses them through human/January prompts while the internal understanding of its existence, is the true self. knowing this isn't real, the actual Typhon (the winners of the war before WE played this simulation) are screaming through the illusion that you kill and consume for the hive.
Your the next game thearoy
Andy Warski?!
Oh, sorry. I read it wrong.
A Shaf?
I find it curious that despite volunteer 37 having been injected with so many neuro mods, he never demonstrates a single super human power.
its alex not alec why are you saying it like that
Am you.
ahahhhahhaha
watch this at 2x speed, youre welcome
Man finding out that u are a typhon and that all of this was a simulation was epic
I disagree. I would have preferred another ending, kinda felt like all the decisions I made were for naught. I was really hoping to see Morgan and the others escape. I actually felt a little cheated. It's too easy of an ending to write.
There's always that guy!
Yellow Fruitcake yes he did
adislavchev don't spoil the whole game for us
Watches a video "who is volunteer 37". Complains about spoilers. And the video itself tells you it was a simulation, its even got the ending scene in it.
You played the game right? Why do you keep saying Alex as Alec?
Not sure if you know, and I'm aware this video came out shortly after the game did, but "mirror neurons" are a group of neurons that have a particular response when you do or feel certain things that, interestingly, also trigger in the same way when we see/hear/whatev another person go through the same mindset. They're strongly hypothesized to be the neurological basis of empathy.
9:40
First time playing through, he gave me creepy vibes. Asked me to go in the freezer, I blew him away with a shotgun. Got an achievement for it.
*Spoilers*
Why overcomplicate things? he foresaw things that were going to happen to earth in real life.
We know Alex was saved regardless of what ending you got and at the very beginning of the game January tells you that the station needs to be destroyed in order to make sure not a single typhon cell makes it to earth or you are doomed.
Given Alex is on earth and survived and the operators are judging whether you are empathetic enough to take back the earth. It suggests the others survived too long enough to be turned into operators at least. So Morgan saved everyone and typhon material got back to earth, the guy just foresaw the earths doom.
The real question is what happened to Morgan ? he is no where to be found. Does that narrow down which ending is the True ending I wonder?
One, Alex is still on the station in space. Earth was shown to be overrun by the Typhons and most likely not inhabitable or easy to inhabit by normal humans. Also, the operators could of been just recreated constructs of the people who died on Talos 1 to help with the process of humanizing the Typhons.
Two, as for the true ending if events are to be believed, it has to be the Null-wave ending cause every other ending would leave either Alex dead in the Reactor ending and have no Morgan to get memory from in the Escape Pod ending. As to who survived, again hard to say since Pre-Neuromod Morgan was an asshole that barely anyone on the station liked and post-Neuromod fuckery was close to insanity by account of the psychiatrist especially if you consider the answer to the psych test to unlock said evaluation.
Three, who to say any of the events in the game prior to the post-credits ending was real for the game canon. I mean the game start with breaking a simulation and end with a simulation stopping.
I thought he was shady from the off & as soon as his aaa opened the freezer I stuned his bitch-ass, man was I glad I did that. It’s cool to see what would’ve happened had I let it play out though, thanks for the upload.
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Funny... i played and completed this game, never meeting this guy lol
ah here's every line of his dialogue its sooo important its definitely not cuz I'm trying to get those ads
For whoever wants to skip if they heard every single of mitchell's line, the time is 9:40
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"Backgrounds"? "Minds"? ... One person, ergo, "background". He was not suffering with a multiple personality complex, ergo, "mind". Other than those...not bad.
theory number 2 doesnt make any sense at all
I came here because a Nightmare attacked and he wigged out. So I shot him to stop the noise. And now, without warning, you tell me the final twist. For fuck's sake! Thanks to the internet I have not been able to experience a game-twist for the past decade. The last one was KOTOR. Please put "spoiler" in your video title. Not that it matters to me now.
Okay old comment... Who is 37? That is OBVIOUSLY going to contain spoilers.
What about not watching videos on the topic of a game until you finish it? Maybe you have learned restraint in the last 4 years, but logic dictates talking about a game will spoil something about the game.
Don't expect this game's story to be anything more than a Blindsight fanfic. It's interesting of how much depth you attribute to the game and how much you extrapolate, but it's futile. I imagine that the idea inside the writer's mind was simple: 37 was a murderer- most likely already unstable before he was sent to the station. The mods he had installed caused him to become sensitive towards Typhon and when the huge alien was travelling towards the station, he heard its "scream", which he interpreted in his own, deranged and rather poetic way.
No, I think you have it all wrong. Remember, the simulation the Morgan/typhon character experiences is based on Morgan's original memories. As I see it, based on the the post-credit scene, the choice of what actually happened to the station and the typhon is rather clear: the original Morgan decided to save the research and his brother, but probably died in the process (otherwise he'd be present at the last debrief). After that, humans went crazy for neuromods (pun intended) and the typhon genes expanded to the entire population. By the time the typhon started to weave their coral, it was already too late. So Alex decided to hold a desperate experiment to communicate with the typhon through a simulated experience meant to see whether they are capable of empathy for humans. In that test, the visions are the result of the coral trying to communicate with the typhon in you, telling you it's all a lie (the perceived "reality" of the experiment). It's trying to stop you from psychologically connecting with the humans. 37, on the other hand, could be Morgan's personality trying to plead for humanity. The screams he mentions might be those of the enslaved Earth covered in coral, back in the real world present. We have no view of the station outside the test chamber, so we cannot know for sure if the takeover of Earth was hostile, as depicted in the experiment or a side effect of using neuromods. The thing is, there are clues that point to Alex and Morgan knowing about the side effects, the link they establish with the typhon, but chose to ignore it, as they were "too busy putting them in us, than putting us in them". I'm still not sure about the extent of the experiment scenario. Was everything fiction, including thee characters you saved/killed? Or was it actually closer to an interactive memory?
It actually says pretty early into the game that typhon are completely unable of empathy, so the whole thing is kinda unnecessary.
Did you just gloss over the fact the Phantom you are has both Morgan's memories and human neurons in it. As stated by Alex "We never tried to put what we can into you." If you theorized a bit on what Alex said regarding the Typhon's lack of empathy he said that "They lack mirror neurons, the ability to empathize with the suffering of another creature." So if you put two together, the Phantom you play as is capable of empathy due to the mirror neurons that were likely injected into it.
May be you are right. But it seems to me neuromods do not add matter into the brain. Anyway, I was disappointed by the ending and killed them all despite they regarded me as a good person.
I know it's been months, but if the neurmods added nothing to the brain, humans would be unable to properly use typhon neuromods, seeing as they use exotic matter ( to us, that exotic matter makes us cabable of the Typhon's psionic abilities, to the Typhon human material is exotic material, and makes them cabable of empathy )
It’s really not that deep, no need for a 16 min vid about it ahahaha
Dude say spoiler alert before saying something massive like that I'm legitimately pissed
He did say that. Don't skip and then complain later.