What to buy instead of a Crosley Record Player (and which brands/turntables to avoid)
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- Опубликовано: 5 янв 2021
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The reddit post: / list_of_turntables_to_...
International brands to avoid:
Crosley (except for the C10 model, which is merely a rebranded Pro-Ject Essential turntable. The C100 and C200 are okay to use)
Jensen
ION (including their "Ford Mustang" and other retro "car" variants)
1byone (US and UK brand)
Pyle / Pyle-Home
Stanton *(T and STR8 series turntables ONLY! ST-series turntables can be safely purchased!)*
Audio Technica (AT-LP60, AT-LP2D, and its variants only)
Sony (ONLY from the lower-end models, including the PS-LSX100/150/200/250/300)
TEAC (the lower-end models only such as the TN-100, LPR500/LPR550, LPU192CD, LP-P1000, and MC-D800)
Pioneer (PL-990, PL-J2500, and its variants only)
Denon (DP-200USB, DP29F, DP26-F and its variants)
Akai (The Retro / A60011N (the portable version) and the BT100 models!)
Marantz (ONLY THE TT5005 AND ITS VARIANTS!)
Sansui (ONLY THE SLP-5000BT AND ITS VARIANTS!)
Numark (PT-01 and its variants)
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Victrola (Urban Outfitters also released their own EP-33 but did not mention it's from Victrola from their website)
Philips (OTT2000 and its variants)
Lenco (L-3867, L-83, L-84, L-85, TT-83 models and variants only)
Vestax (only the Handy Trax Portable Turntable and its variant models)
Toshiba
Sylvania
Memorex
Philco
Studebaker
GPO
Tokky
Starlogic
Groov-E
Vitkatronics
HOVAMP
Fenton
Australian brands to avoid:
Braun
Buddee
BUSH
Cobalt
Dick Smith
Digitech
Fission
Flea Market
HolySmoke
Laser
Lenoxx
mbeat
Onix
Sencor
Welling
UK brands to avoid:
Akura
Aldi (the grocery store chain)
AMOS (As Mentioned On Screen)
Assai
Auna
Benross
Bigben
Boom Beatz
Bush
Caseflex
Cavern Club
Connected Essentials
Debonair
Derens
Denver
Elyxr Audio
Encode
Global Gizmos
Goodmans
Grausch
IMG Stage Line iTek
Intempo
Jam (exclusive to HMV UK, bundled with speakers)
Kenley
Konig
Limit
Marquee Club
OnDial
Retro Fusion
Silver Crest
SoundMaster
Steepletone
Tevion
UKayed
Veho
Vibe Sound
Zennox
USA brands to avoid:
Anders Nicholson
Art & Sound
Audiology
Back to the 50's
Boytone
Brookstone
Capehart
ClearClick
Costzon Inc.
Craig Electronics
CMC
DCI (also known as Funkyfonic) (can be found on Amazon and Michael's)
DigitNow!
Dilla Turntable, The
Emerson
Encore Technology
Electrohome
Electro Brand
Exuby
firstStreet
G Keni
Gadhouse
GOSO
Grace Digital
iLive (also goes by another name "DPI/GPX")
iTrak (sub-brand of Encore/Electro Brand USA)
JORLAI
Knox
Lauson
LOVE (Kickstarter)
make2play (aka M2P)
Merkury Innovations
Miric
Musitrend
Photive
Polaroid
ProduTrend
QFX
Restoration Hardware
Rok (Rock N Rolla)
RokBlok (Kickstarter)
Roswell
Sharper Image
Spinbox (Kickstarter)
SuperSonic Inc
TechPlay
Technical Pro
Thomas Pacconi
Tyler
Verdict Life
Vinyl Styl
Vitkatronics
Wolflin
ZasLuke
Which record player/turntable should I buy? Just buy an Audio Technica LP120 :)
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Buying a good record player is like navigating a minefield. Makes me not even want to get into the hobby if there is that much garbage players floating around.
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Honestly, there is a lot of bad advice in this video. I have an LP60 and it's a great entry table. Sounds good and built like a tank. I also have a LP120, a vintage 80s Marantz and a Rega P6, so I've heard a good range of quality. If you're just getting into vinyl and you've only got $50 bucks, there is nothing wrong with a Crosley or Victrola. (I'm buying one right now to take with me to our family Christmas). Not amazing sound quality, but that's not really the point. They are NOT going to damage your records. If you think you might want to get more serious, then look at something in the $200-$400 range.
This video doesn't help very much. There are a few very good entry level players arround. Listing them would have been much more helpful. It's not that hard.
Can agree, I did a fair bit research on budget record players and settled on an audio technica lp60xusb. It's a good starter table not something to upgrade to though for sure. As for crosleys they are not great turn tables but the "destroying/ruining your records" is mostly exaggerated from what I can tell, I've had multiple friends who've had crosleys and their records have been perfectly fine. Vinyl records were designed to withstand 5 to 6 grams of tracking force (the weight placed on the record by the stylus). Also if price is a problem when it comes to tables like the audiotechnica, you can often find used ones online for cheap listed as broken or not working that sometimes just need a new belt. The other week I saw an lp60 going for £20 and the only thing I could see wrong with it was the belt was fitted wrong.
@@panjin79 agreed, I don't know where the crosley destroying vinyls came from.
Man u can't tell a beginning not to buy bloody 100's of brands then end up only giving 1 recommendation 🤔
I have the Audio-Technica AT-LP120XUSB Turntable I had for 2 years and I love it and had no problems with it I would also recommend you to buy it if you want a good record player.
I still have my Kenwood turntable that I bought back in 1985. It still sounds great.
Thank you for your suggestion on the AT120, purchased one for my 14y daughter and we’re beyond happy
If may a have a question am thinkig of buy a auna Belle Epoque 1912 retro should i buy it or not?
I just got a portable steepletone record player for £2 in the charity and it works perfectly certainly not avoiding that
Well I got a 1 by One for Christmas and so far it's been pretty damn good. There's a lot of positive reviews on it too. The wood finish and everything looks great and it sounds great too. Maybe you can convince me why I shouldn't have this turntable?
1st: positive amazon reviews mean literally nothing. People who don't know anything about vinyl will leave a 5 star review simply because it works. They are ignorant to the fact that it's damaging their records and that it sounds utterly terrible because they've never been exposed to something better. Can't blame them really.
2nd: If you think the integrated speakers on a cheapo turntable sound "great," then I don't even know where to begin. Frankly my phone speakers sound better.
So if you're ok with damaging your records and shit sound quality, then your cheapo turntable will serve you well.
I guess the lesson here is that ignorance is bliss.
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(no space) but thank u for ur kind words. im really glad you were able to understand a teenager's humour, it really shows your ability to conprehend today's youth.
Thankyou so much so helpful Happy New Yer baci x
I have got a record player made my ION which you pictured in the video I did as for for Christmas and it was £73 in the UK off Amazon and I have found that it’s really good, I can understand about the arm weight and quality won’t be up to standard on a £300 record player it’s just I don’t really have that kind of money to spend on anything like that or direct drive. Maybe one day I will but now it’s good for what I want it to do now
so which low level one is good the vintage looking ones that come in suitcase any that wont damage your records?
I bought a Victorola suitcase style record player as a present for someone im not to concerned about audio quality but about the stylus scratching the vinyls , is there a way of seeing if the stylus is quality or recommend a styles to replace it with that will be good
I'm going to make a vid about a stilus weight there £10 from Amazon would you be interested?
I don't think you can change the cartridge on one of these, but it shouldn't matter. By definition, the needle is scratching the vinyl every play. It's a needle. If you remove dust and grit from the record and the needle with a brush or wet cleaning system, that'll do more to extend the life of their records more than anything. If they really enjoy the hobby, upgrade later to something with an adjustable tonearm.
what do you think of the lenco ls-300?
It’s not about the brand because every brand gets the player from the same Chinese manufacturer it’s really just about what needle they use, Audio techina needles are some of the best for their price and a lot of record players use them from $75-300 some high end ones will use audio techina needles but put their own branding on them and charge $50+ dollars for the same thing. Now Crowley has those case record players and they are fine they wouldn’t chew up your records those players in them have been around for 40 years my grandpa’s old record player he still has and sometimes uses has never chewed up a record and they are all 30+ years old but the case record players have a issue with warped records where it will rub the bottom of the lid and the speakers are basic but sound fine and it’s needle is ok you should replace it with the diamond needle it comes with in a package of extras and it will be way better, no it doesn’t have a adjustable counter weight but it’s already fine audio techina lp60 doesn’t either and it’s the best entry level turntables but just a better needle. I recommend if your just getting in to turntables and don’t want to spend to much on one and want to save money for records look at a used lp60 they go for $30-$100new I bought one for $18 that the rpm was running to fast watched a video fixed it and upgraded as I got more into it. If u got a cruiser as a gift don’t let these bullies make you feel bad for not having a $2000 turntable because all record players play in stereo and can only sound so good and with them having built in speakers it a easy way to get into the hobby and a aux port for headphones and if you got some decent headphones it will sound it’s best. Crosley sells a t150 a great record player with all the shit you bullies say a record player must have and looks great too and Victoria sells the same one with their name on it and a lot of big name sellers you would recommend use that same manufacturer.
My old dream is to buy a record player amd start my vinyl collection. I love them but there are lot of no and do, so I found your comment really informative and made a screenshot. Thank you for taking time to write it
The LP60 is a total waste of money, you can get a 1990s aiwa that has the exact same tonearm and mechanism for €10, i would prefer just looking at vintage turntables because they are cheaper and better in almost every way. Just look for some cheap Technics or something you wont regret it.
@@philipsfanboy6423 lol $99 for the lp60 is not a waste of money. That's actually a great price for a new entry level record player. Their customer service is great too. I've had my lp60 for eight years and it still plays like it did the day I bought it.
@@bkd2117 they are just plastic ewaste out of the factory, no excuse for buying this modern dogshit when you can buy a sony lx22 for much much cheaper
@@philipsfanboy6423 lol whatever you say! 😂
My daily driver is a vintage Pioneer PL117D with and Art DJ Pre Phono Preamp and a nice AT VM530EN Cartridge and have been quite happy - but the selection and availability in Australia of decent turntables is very poor, I'd love a Fluance RT83/85 but the postage is more than the 800.00 price tage on the turntable
What's best record player under £100 with in built speakers.
WHAT ABOUT LENCO TT-10??? IT'S A SUITCASE WITH VINYL RECORDS PLAYER.
would you recommend the Lenco L-85? i’m just beginning and it seems like it’s good and from what i’ve seen the arm weighs about 2 grams or so
Yes, this a very good record player
was it any good?
Hi I am listening to vinyl singles atm and the cracking in the sound is awful is there any way to clear it up or is there a better vinyl player I can buy thanks.
same thing is happening to me, it plays fine but from the speakers i can hear little crackling sounds from the underneath sounds in the songs or something
Asking for a friend, is gadhouse dean any good? Is it recommended?
also curious about this!
Great video! How do you feel about the retro one's.? Like KLH And Dansette. Dansette has a built in Speaker. I believe they use a Garland turntable on the Klh.
Thanks
Cheers
I think most of what you say is correct. I just don't think you should make a blanket statement to avoid Crosley as a brand. It is true that most models you might run into in a Walmart or a quick Amazon search are those suitcase type ones and ones with built in speakers and no counterweight on the tone arm and less than stellar Stylus BUT they also do make audiophile quality turntables as well!
Which ones would you say are quality?
@@Helen-cs2zx crosley c100, c200
lol Thank you so much for letting me and my family not getting a Crosley record player because this vinyl that we just got is very brand new and we didn’t want to get it scratched or ruined again thank you so much
I would suggest the absolute cheapest player to get that won’t damage your record is the Audio-technica LP60. You won’t be able to upgrade it much later but it is decent. You will need powered speakers or a sound system to plug it into. The Fluance RT81 would be my recommendation for a upgraded and upgradable pick. It’s great.
@@quikspecv4d,what do you think about this model:LENCO TT-10 ?? It's a suitcase.
@@paulmoran3310 I would definitely stay away from that one. It has the same cheap turntable mechanism that almost all the suitcases players have. It will ruin your records.
@@quikspecv4d ,ok,thank you
LS-430BN anyone know if these bigger power lenco record players any good?
will the fenton rp162w damage vinyl?
what do you think of the brand Teac? i want to buy the TN-175-B model
Teac's a solid brand. Looks like a nice table.
I get that Bush would have a bad quality sound, but does it damage records or not?
What model Bush? The spec to pay attention to is the tracking force. Think of it as the weight applied to the needle to keep it in the groove. Records are designed to withstand up to 7 or 8 grams, so you shouldn't worry, but the more downward force applied to the needle dragging through the groove the more wear you'll do each play. A suitcase player with a ceramic cartridge usually tracks between 4-6 grams. Entry level tables with adjustable arms punch in around 1.5 to 4 grams. I think what's more important to avoid damage is always keep your records clean, your stylus clean, and invest in some good inner sleeves to replace the typical cheap paper ones. Do this and you'll get plenty of spins out of your records.
What about Fenton ?
Great upload!
This guy seems like the perfect person to talk about opinions to because he respects all opinions
How describe reloop brand in this situation?
What’s the best player for a shit rental in Fitzroy?
Has anyone heard any reviews about the Polaroid Turntable Wall Mounted
I have to disagree with you on your assessment of the Audio Technica AT-LP60. I buy and sell turntables frequently as a hobby. The one I always keep in my collection is the AT-LP60 (currently it's the 60X). It is in my opinion the highest quality/lowest price for a new turntable. Those Australian prices are outrageous. In 2017 I owned the AT-LP120 as well as the AT-LP60. The 60 had accurate anti skate whereas the 120 did not. I've heard that the 120X fixed this issue. I don't own one so I cannot attest to this.
The AT60 is the perfect entry level turntable as it is plug-n-play ready, has a built in phono stage and you don't have to fuss with balancing a tone arm. It's a dream. Plus it sounds good. More money does yield much better results. For what it does, it does very well. Consider watching this review of the 60.
ruclips.net/video/ZuLbMevvaJU/видео.html
I heard that from multiple specialized stores that I’ve been visiting too. It seems to be the safest choice for entry level
I owned 120( upgraded from 60) but i prefer 60( still keeping it) ...no fuss at all... 60 good for entry level for those who definitely a beginner and tight budget (like me before lol)
or just get a cheap Technics, cheaper and they are actually decent. I’ve had a terrible experience with a LP60 because the tonearm just simply isn’t good. The anti skate thing doesn’t really matter because it kept on skipping. Now i got a Technics SL-1900 and it skips pretty much never. Not to mention the LP60 has a terrible amount of wow and flutter and isn’t dampened.
@@philipsfanboy6423 I agree that Technics are an excellent choice
He wants you to spend $200+ for your first player. Pure tool imo.
Just saw some Black Friday sales with crosley at big w & dick smiths so i started doing research & found this video.
Hmm I was looking at crosley cruiser deluxe or DGTEC Turntable with Legs but might just do some more research. I only have 3 vinyls atm but I want to get into it more.
What's your budget?
How about GCM Pro line?
Does anyone have any recommendations for a budget of €100?
ruclips.net/video/nxtqsmgU15A/видео.html you can try this one assuming that you still haven't get you a turntable
What do you think about Fenton RP162?
I'm really surprised Victrola isn't in that list for the United States. They make cheap ($60) little suitcase phonographs that look pretty much like the Crosleys. Any comments?
I had no idea they sold them in the US. They should definitely be on the list (same factory produces the Victrola and Crosley suitcase model)
Yeah, they're garbage too. They all use the same cheap mechanism that costs 5$ on AliBaba.
@@purplepingers what about the full size turntable by Victrola? They are weighted and adjustable and have settings that can be tuned. I heard that they are branded with many different names, but are the best choice for under $100. Often on sale around $50. The only reason I'm looking at them is for my kids. I would personally buy an Audio Technica for myself. But can't spend that much for my kids
is the lenco ls50 okay? I have a crosley and I want a new one, because it's horrible, sadly I don't have a lot of money as a student
heyy! im thinking of buying that one too. did u buy it? and if u did, is it good?
hey, a student here as well, please update us if you bought it or found something better, thanks! :)
@@3rdmemberofdaftpunk hey!! i bought the lenco ls50. in my opinion its a good choice. the sound is nice, not the best quality, but its good and if u want u can use better speakers.
in my opinion is a good choice for someone who has not a lot of money and its good quality.
@@catarinaserra7781 ok, maybe I should consider getting it as my first record player since I don't really have a huge budget at the moment (university life lol). Thank you very much for replying, I really appreciate it!! :)
@@catarinaserra7781 I think you can do better
Is lenco tt10 good?
I recently bought an Auna hifi, which is one brand you list as one to avoid. What would you recommend to make it sound better ? New Stylus? With headphones the turntable sounds great but the volume is low when not.
You should have a little button on the back side, just move it
I'm thinking about buying a lawn mower, you think the Crosley is the way to go?
Excuse me sir, this is a Wendy’s
@@purplepingers lol! Thanks for answering! You made my evening 😆
is the fenton rp-165 any good?
Stay away from anything with a ceramic cartridge!
is prixton a good brand?
i have the audio technical lp60, it has worked great for me because i have pretty expensive studio speakers. i highly recommend to newer users just know u need external speakers, preferably good quality like presonus.
what about reloop pls?
Do you know what you are talking about… Mbeat PT18k is a great cheap and cheerful deck. Great sound with the AT cartridge. I have 2 and the play faultless. I also have the AT 120 and AT LP 5 decks which cost 3 +times more and whilst the sound of these are more detailed the MBeat is not too far behind. Suggest that before you review products that you use them first😎
Legend mate, sold! haha was considering the Mbeat to digitise my collection since i sold my babies (instant regret selling my technics 1210 mk3's) but now want decks back!
I'm thinking of buying Lenco LS-40, it does have bulit in speakers but since it'll be my first record player I'm thinking it can't be that bad.. Right?
It has a junk ceramic cartridge, stay away from those! Learn the difference between ceramic (cheap junk) and magnetic (good) cartridges.
What about a lenco ls50
I have a Toshiba 335 that I purchased for my wife as she wanted an automatic, It's a decent enough turntable.
hey, im planning on buying the MB-PT-28 for my dads birthday as hes always wanted one, it seems very decent but wanted a 2nd opinion, would you recommend it? please get back to me asap ha ahah thanks
God I’d wish I’d kept my stack system from the early nineties!
Lots of missinformed info here. You can get a diamond tip. The tracking weight is 5-6grams. Tool telling you to buy $200+ record players. Not great players but not everyone can afford what you can and drop half a paycheck.
For me its my whole check so im going cheap.
Technics m3d if you can with a Shure m44-7g cart if ya can't,settle for a numark tt-200 with any entry level Shure cart,cheers
is the Model TT202-I turntable player good?
I really like your voice and the way you speak
I really like u
well i just bought an ion some days ago, damn
The plural of vinyl is vinyl not vinyls
How bad are studebaker record players?
I have been around for many years - buying disc players in the UK since the late 1950s when European
products covered a wide range that accommodated varied costs and quality, well before the imports
from Japan which offered real competition to the established names but tended to exist in competition
with top end HI-FI products. For many, there were domestic all-in units of the "radiogram" design that
satisfied the average buyer who wanted something that would suit the furnishings as much as for their
actual sound quality. A bit of research could pay dividends if thinking of buying a disc player in this
revitalised vinyl age, and bargains are possible if knowing what you seek and what value is acceptable to
the pocket, not least in the online market offered by the likes of Ebay and others. I have units dating
from decades ago that still give excellent service and can be serviced by those knowing their job! The
pleasure can be as much in the chase as in the eventual reward..
I just wanted to buy ION mustang :/
my crosley messed up one of my favorite vinyls :/
how?
I took a peak at the description before playing the video, and um, isn't that, all the turntable brands on earth? even the Audio Technica LP60 is black listed 😭
will they mess up your records?
No, they will not. Records can handle up to 6 grams of tracking force.
Some will and most won't - I recommend having a read through the reddit post as it goes into detail on some of the issues :)
I'm from the UK and never heard of 95% of these manufacturers??
At 3:44.Did you say "VinylS" With an 'S'? Ohhhhh no no no😬
I remember when i rented too mate.
ok, so, its not like they´ll damage your record to an unlistanable state BUT, they´ll definetly leave dust marks and other crackling sounds Carved into your record that, while not listenable at first (cuz of the bad speakers in suitcase recordplayers) you´ll definetly notice once you upgrade and have good speakers, so...
-they come with a bad stylus so check that or change it
-because of the 2 times heavier stylus over the recomended measure (around 2 grams, these are 4 or 5) they´ll carve dust into your record more easily, only increased by the lack of dust covers in these, in the 25 minutes your record is playing they´ll be a LOOOT of dust landing on it so yeah
-just why? save up for a better turtable, even if its used, you deserve to listen those amazing records you bought in good quality, but last word of advice if you already own one of those Crossley or Victrola, put it on a stable surface, dont put it in bed or a couch, and try to use other speaker than the ones included on it
thnaks bro
My first thought when I started watching this was... GET ON WITH IT !!!
To bad that newbies start with rubbish record players, when there are plenty of cheap good 80's and 90', Technics, Pioneer, BSR, Dual, Lenco, Omnitronic, Reloop, Players... But hey, with vinyl every start is good.. But only if you upgrade, and if you have continuity, and if you are enthusiastic.. If you stop at Crosley and other cheap cardbord-ish sounding, record player, i will stay with the idea that vinyl is just fun..and the sound is pretty bad. Important avoid record players with Bluetooth!!
Title is misleading. You spent like 10 minutes listing what not to buy and then recommended one $300 turntable. I can't imagine that this video is meant for people who are already familiar with the format but it also wasn't helpful for beginners.
Record distortion is crackle. Pop and Hiss.
The Crosley C6 is actually pretty solid
As I live in a flat, I don't want a sound-system that will blast through the walls! I wanted a turntable I can plug headphones into, so I can enjoy my music privately and control the volume. I found a 'Soho' turntable (in what looks like a light blue briefcase) for £60. For what it is, the sound quality is pretty good. If you're in a small space, and mindful of others in your building, then you don't need 'Surround-Sound'. You don't need to spend a fortune to get a satisfying player.
The disc
Bullshit! Therae are certain Crossley models which are decent. It's about tonearms, cartridge and wow and flutter in the first place. The LP-60 is a decent entry level turntable if you can get it for a bang.
Records are expensive. Why put them on a piece of junk. I love my Dual tables that are 40 to 50 years old. They have Grado and Shure cartridges. I track .75 - 2 grams depending on the cartridges
Let me save you 11 mins and just say buy ANYTHING else besides a Crosley
Good summary - though some Crosleys are not bad, and please check out the Reddit post :)
are victrolas any good
Holy moly, it’s the sh*t rentals of Melbourne guy!
🙃
@@purplepingers love your work xox
These turntables sound really bad. Even if you connect speakers via rca or bluetooth.
Nice shirt
Well crosley is a great entry level players they actually dont ruin your records they gage between 5-6 grams and that doesnt ruin your records! These players have a part in the revival of vinyl! Remember these types growing up in the 70s ran tracking wise 9 grams!
Crosley has a bad reputation because of their "nostalgic reproduction" portable record players. And they earned that. But where straight component turntables are concerned, Crosley rivals everyone. Honestly, I'd recommend looking at Crosley before buying anything.
While none of their stuff is especially high-end, they definitely do make some some surprisingly decent starter tables like the C-130 with useful features like an adjustment counterweight to mitigate excessive tracking issues
@@cryptidproductions3160 Actually, the do even make a direct drive unit now. And units with built in strobes and pitch adjustments. Even their starter unit the T 400 is better than the AT counterpart, the LP 60X. A better tone arm. Less pretty, but no skipping.
So hard to hear you lol
Avoid the Crosley crapper and all other suitcase players.
This video was such a waste of time. I came for a recommendation and spend 10 minutes and 39 seconds until i heard of a single model. Please put time stamps in your videos...
No counter weight or anti skate no buy SIMPLE 😉
"Don't buy the thing that is $5 buy the thing that is $350." Way to gatekeep, lol.
Are you trying not to wake someone up? I can't hear you lol
Cameron Bancroft lookalike
When your parents leave you their inheritance & you move into the eastern suburbs … GET a MAG LEV AUDIO M1L Wood Edition - levitating turntable ….. hand made in Slovakia - TRUTH ! OK it’s only $ 3,861 AUST. You’ll have enough change for your new BMW 7’ series, but I’ll tell you what…. You’ll feel like you’re at the Opera house front & centre row listening to John Williams belting out STAR WAS with his 200 piece orchestra. LIVE !!! That’s how good these TT’s are. Or just go with the old saying & buy Chinese - Pay peanuts, get monkeys. 😆😆😆😆😆😆
UNIVERSUM players made in Germany are the best ones
Bang for the buck? Cheap? Dual.
🤣🤣🤣
You can spend 5 grand on a fucking stylus..
You can spend a lot more then that if you want to.
Men i just want to listen minecraft sound tracks on this
Buy vintage, such as a classic Dual, Denon, or Sony! Peace.
You may be knowledgeable but the way you speak don’t sound authorative convincing.