I'd like to see less remakes
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024
- No. Please. Stop. Unless it's as good as RE2. But still, please. No more.
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It's worth noting btw (if this wasn't clear enough already at least) that the point of my video isn't GRAAAA NO MORE REMAKES EVER WGAHAHAHA because great things can come out of them. It's just that, usually when that's the case, it's because someone was inspired by something, in a way where they felt like they could add to it significantly. The RE1 remake feels like that. They saw potential in the first game, and had a go at fulfilling it.
What I dislike is the more cynically motivated nostalgia bating efforts, and that, with people screaming at the top of their lungs for more remakes, we'll be seeing more of those.
Like, remember when Konami showed that MGS3 Pachinko thing? I saw a lot of people mad, not only because it "shat on the legacy" but also because "those cutscenes could've gone into a full on MGS3 remake", and literally what unfulfilled potential is left in MGS3, other then it potentially looking a bit nicer? It's pointless. And I personally feel that a lot of classics sit in that camp.
They can't add shit, but demand demands it so they'll try anyway, resulting in perception revising mixed bags. I would prefer it if that would stop maybe, pretty though things may be.
Otherwise though, I think more "modernized" or wildly different interpretation style remakes are cool, because that shit actually does introduce new people. I say as much when talking about FF7 and RE2. This video is pretty much just aimed at the old dudes want old shit to be new shit, while often also then being pissed off when that new shit's too new.
IMO that could foster an industry or community that's only cynically wallowing in the past, pleasing an ever growing demand for old new shit, that will never fully be fulfilled, and thus forever perpetuating the same old shit.
ThorHighHeels I agree with you...mostly. I personally like the idea of remakes, not necessarily just because of improvements gameplay and graphics wise, but because newer players will most likely look at an old game and go “it looks really bad, dated, has references nobody would get these days, etc”. A remake would give a more “modern” look and feel that could attract new players to it like flies to a delicious cheeseburger (I’m hungry, sue me). All of that on top of just “untapped potential” (due to lack of ability at the time) and ideas that the creators couldn’t put in due to technical issues (Not big enough space on the disk, the game cannot make graphics look realistic, or other reasons). These are my reasons for why I am pro remake. Besides, if the remake is bad, people who like the original can just go back to the original. No loss, no foul. Hope you appreciate this opinion! 😅
I do! This video was mostly targeted at people looking to "re-experience" games from their youths, but then asking for it to be remade with super specific conditions that will never be met. But I do agree they can be good for new comers. RE2 in particular seems to have brought on many new players, as even I haven't played the original. So there's value in that for sure.
What I will say, however, is that I don't really feel that there's "no loss no foul" when a remake messes up. That Crash Remake for instance, brought a lot of "crash hasn't aged well and is too hard" hot takes with it, that tainted how those people now think of the originals, despite the originals not being anywhere near that hard because they controlled better. It feels like it's revising history in a way, at least for a subset of people (some of whom game journalists with a whole lot of reach), and I don't like that. But that might not matter much in the long run, who knows.
ThorHighHeels Only time will tell then. Thanks for a decent response (you’d be surprised how many times the poster of the comment gets all “grr, different opinion! NEVER!!!” Ha.
Ps: “So I’ve been playing Resident Evil 2”? Seems like a good idea around this time.
As long as enough time has passed that what the original game was, and what the remake ends up being are almost 2 different games gameplay-wise, I’m happy, re2 is basically a new game in every aspect except the same basic story, like you said in the vid something like the crash and Spyro remakes are just more hd upgrades with nothing besides graphics really changed. There’s a certain time period where remakes become pointless, I want a 3make, but I’ve heard people saying they want a re4 remake also and for that one, it’s still too recent, if you aren’t Re-imagining the original with the original just being used as a guide to build a new game, then something doesn’t need a remake
They add to it by making it look better and making the gameplay better. It's a remake. Not a remaster.
Finally, someone plays RE2 without the brightness so high that the whole game becomes gray.
The gray is intentional, believe it or not.
Thier HDR isn't great, especially on console. You get a few more brightness settings when you turn it off. Black levels look way better and aren't washed out.
@@Scott-M1 the HDR and colour grading/brightness in RE2 in general is amazing actually. people assume something's wrong because the black levels in the police station, and only the police station, have this intentionally murky/grey look to them. by trying to make the dark colours in the first area of the game completely black you are crushing the colours and ruining how the rest of the game will look.
I remember when I subscribed to ThorHighHeels last month. It's nothing like what it used to be. We need a ThorHighHeels remake!
Im torn because I consider Silent Hill to be one of the most beautiful and best “aged” ps1 games, but at this point I’m feeling withdrawal from Silent Hill and would take any kind of project over no project at all.
In fact REmake 2 made me miss the times when AAA companies did survival horror and would love to see new games coming with today’s tech.
The slew of remakes have been telling me the gaming industry and innovation has stagnated, but the demand remains. It's kind of a omen...
Not really... but sure
Same for movies
Nostalgia cash grabs are easy money and always have been, they're hardly indicative of the state of the industry. That said, I am curious to see where Square Enix intends to take FF after FF7R is finished (so a decade from now) given what a polarizing black sheep XV was.
@@no_misaki Oh, FF - yeah that would be a trip. You can tell, let alone see the creative well for that franchise has run dry. The FF team, not part of 14 rely on their veterans nowadays. The biggest tell? They bluntly state that FF15 was funded by 14's subs and its success.
I definitly understand why people want remakes. They want to see what they love without the limitations of the past. Its a mix of: Curiosity, nostalgia and new standards which leads to the desire of remakes. A remake let people come back to what they love, but in a way they are now used to, and also it also statisfice the curiosity of how these games would feel and look today. What I dont understand is: why it has to be a complete remake and not a new game in the old style? Sometimes old games doesnt had great ideas in the beginning (for example all fucking flying maps in Spyro). I think the reason why the companies do remakes instead of new games in old style is: Its safer. Its cost less monetos (since most of the conception/layout is already there) and in the end there is the bonus of : people want to see their past BUT(T) in HD. I for my part dont need Remakes, the reason for this is simple: I can always play the original. I can play with the stiffer controlls, "bad" grafic .... in general im more forgiving for unpolished gameplay... But many cant. Ps: Before anybody ask why i dont have some space in my text block..... I wrote it on the smartphone... I have no freaking idea how to :)
Yeah that's kinda my thing too. I was talking about this with a friend just now. He asked me "are there any games you would want remade though?" and the very few I could think of, are all games that had cool ideas on paper, that weren't executed all that well. However, even despite me feeling that way, I'd still much rather see those improved executions used in a sequel to those games, rather then a retread of what we already got.
I guess ironically, Final Fantasy VII might be the only exception for me, thinking about it now. They could for sure make an ever CLASSICER CLASSIC out of that CLASSIC, just as how Capcom did with RE1 & 2. But I feel like the games where you can pull that off are super rare, as you need an exact mix of already great, wasted potential, and expandability regarding it's existing concepts, without the risk of taking away from whats already there. And even then I'd say it's super hard to pull off.
Zlorf I completely agree, couldn’t have been said better
Agreed. I'd much rather play the old games because when they remake something they often times dumb it down. For example, the RE2 Remake's puzzles were a joke, you only need ink ribbons on hardcore, you had way more inventory space than in the original, etc.
@@HateMyself247"Oh no its not an exact copy paste of the previous game, this is dumbed down". the Puzzels in RE2 were just as easy as they were in the Remake, and the extra inventory space is sounds more like "back in my day" nitpick.
@@jazzmaster909 "Oh no, someone who has an opinion different than my own! Better criticize their blatant wrong think and accuse them of being blinded by nostalgia."
The puzzles in the original RE2 seem easy now after over 20 years of solving them over and over, but they were much harder than the puzzles in the remake. A perfect example of how they were harder is that when you need to use an item on something in a specific place, in the remake there's a button prompt on the thing you need to interact with, when you press the button the camera zooms into it and opens the inventory telling you you need to use something. In the original, you just had to check things on your own and figure it out. For example, the fireplace with the painting over it. You examine THE PAINTING, not the fire place. and it's pretty obvious you need to do something with it, but it never opens the menu and alerts you to use an item. You just have to THINK to light the fire place that the game has done nothing to draw your attention to. The key word is THINK. Modern games don't require thought, just being able to follow directions and push buttons.
And no, the inventory complaint is not a nitpick. It's a legitimate one, seeing as Resident Evil is SUPPOSED to be a survival horror series, limited inventory space creates more challenge and requires you to THINK ahead and THINK about what you might need and what you can bare to leave behind. But Resident Evil stopped being survival horror long ago sadly... ever since RE4.
Also, those were just a few examples, I could point out the blatant dumbing down in the RE2 remake for hours. Almost EVERYTHING about the game is an example of dumbing down.
I think the kind of remake people want, even if they don't exactly say it or know it, is like Resident Evil 2. Resident Evil 2 Remake is excellently done and doesn't replace the original game, as you point out. They take the original's framework and essentially build a new game on top of it. Resident Evil 1 Remake was also great in the same way. I took the opportunity to play the original RE2 before the remake came out, and have alternated between each campaign as I've gone (Leon A PS1, Leon A remake, Claire B PS1, etc.), and I love the fact that the remake stands on its own and isn't just a replacement for the original. I hope the FF7 remake takes a similar path, I have no interest in just a graphical upgrade. The exciting thing for a FF7 remake is seeing what they can do with that world without the limitations of 1997 holding them back.
Re2 is exactly the remake i (and other people) dont want because its a reimagining of the game not a remake at that point is just better to play something 100% new
@Cosmnia One thats the point of the remake make the same game again with better graphics so newer generations can play it and becomes easily available as older hardware gets harder to use. If you change other stuff in a remake may as well do a new game and dont even bother touching a old game
@Cosmnia One emulation is not real hardware, its cool that we have it and i use them a lot just so i dont set my wii or my ps2 but its not the real thing, and flashcarts will not help when the hard becomes so old that wont even turn on again.
2. clearly you totally forgot this part "with better graphics so newer generations can play it and becomes easily available" try asking a kid today to play re1 or re2 on ps1 with a straight face, they wont touch it with a 10feet pole thats a fact of life once they are into the series they probably will be more forgiving with old graphics
@@armando92 " If you change other stuff in a remake may as well do a new game and dont even bother touching a old game"
Yeah because a remake will Delete the Original Game right? RIGHT?
Armando92 Man you really just missed the whole point of what he said lmao
i like remakes for stuff like yakuza kiwami 2 where the orginal is os rare and pricey on ps2 in uk there is no legal way to own the game without spending far too much i hope rule of rose gets a remake for this reason
Yakuza 2 is like 40$ sealed on eBay
ArbitratourXII it’s strange though. When I wanted to try and play the whole series back in 2016, I couldn’t find an inexpensive copy of Yakuza 2 on eBay. But since somewhere around last year the game has been easy to find and at a reasonable price.
I passed on Rule of Rose for 12€ a couple months ago... yeah
I’d like a remake of MegaMan Legends 1&2. Fixing the faults of the originals and creating a resurgence enough to make Legends 3
You mean convincing Capcom to restart on making Legends 3? As much as I want this, I can't put any hope on it even if they did remasters for 1 + 2, both of which I love to death.
Ratchet and Clank 2016 wasn't a 1:1 remake. It was missing a lot from the first game. It was really more of a movie tie in game than a full on remake imo.
No time for remakes when you have Kuon to play!
Im almost 30 and i just borrowed sypro reignited from a friend, and im honestly shocked how much fun im having fun. I think sypro gameplay is still better than most game loops i encounter in new games.
yeah instead of an RE3 remake capcom should make an auto modellista 2
Brick simulator 2.0
How about a return to Dino Crisis
True God Of Destruction that deserves a return actually. Seems like an abandoned IP fans want
I am not joking about Auto Modellista tho. I just want my cell shaded anime cars, man.
I thought I was the only one who wanted another awesome cel-shaded racing sim.
I only buy remakes if the game is not accessible by other means/gameplay is better. Otherwise, I stick with the originals
Name three games that fit that criteria.
@@eandjproductions2 Pokémon HeartGold/SoulSilver. That was a great rework of the original game.
@@eandjproductions2 RE1 reamke, RE2 Reamke, Pokemon Hart Gold and Soul Silver
I still think remakes are overwhelming inferior to the originals. I will admit the Pokemon ones are good but RE2 remake is too different to be considered a remake. Anything else?
eandjproductions2 RE2 is a remake... sorry to tell you. What you are thinking is a remaster
what you "think" about reamke isnt always the truth.
The echo on “Fresh” killed me haha
RE2 is not a remake, it is a reimagining. Capcom said it themselves.
As for the reimagining, I loved it and 100% it. But there are cuts and changes that the original did better.
The A and B scenarios are worse than the original. Capcom completely abandoned the way the original made them feel different yet connected.
There's lots of cuts to the great enemy variety too. I miss Zombie Brad, but he was likely cut as most costumes were sold as dlc.
I truly appreciate that most of the extras and rewards were kept unlockable in the game. But, the stuff cut for dlc is scummy. The classic music especially, as the reimagining's soundtrack is not as good.
Then there's the cuts to the story like: showing why that helicopter randomly kamikaze into the RPD, Tyrants being air dropped into Raccoon City, and much of Leon and Claire's interactions throughout the game.
And I can't be the only one who thinks Birkin is freakin dead and could not have injected himself with the G virus. They even confirm he's dead lol.
The characters also cuss way too much and there in game remarks are annoying. I think Claire was the worse depicted in this treatment. Cusses unnecessarily and loves to screech at high pitch stuff like, "Stay away!" or, "What the fuuuu!"
I still think RE1 Remake is still the best remake as it stayed more faithful to the PS1 classic.
I've been hoping since RE5 that the franchise would reboot and go back to being about cool characters fighting Umbrella. And that's pretty much what RE2 Reimagining has done.
I enjoyed many of the games post RE5, but story and character wise? No, not all. Revelations 1 had no bearing on RE canon at all
Revelations 2 retcons a Wesker sister. RE6, well, excellent 3rd person action game with lots of content, but terrible story and retcons.
As for RE7, didn't give a single damn about Ethan, Mia, or any of the mains. And Chris joining Umbrella...no...just no...
a remake is a reimagining. the latter is just a buzzword term to make sure people don't expect 1 to 1 shit.
As far as the cussing goes I personally find it makes the characters a little bit more realistic. Mostly because its what I know I would do in their situation so it feels a little more emersive to me.
But I agree with a lot on what you said. Especially on RE7s characters. I like the game, but it has some pretty forgettable characters. Jack is probably the most memorable one to me because of his "Welcome to the family son" line lol.
I never thought I'd find someone who actually cares if there is cursing...I mean, think about it, how do you think the average person would react? Cursing is so incredibly common, and when confronted with the monstrosities and zombies of RE2, you bet your ass most people would say "Holy shit!" or "What the fuck is that?!"
If anything, I find it goofy and unrealistic when people DON'T curse in these situations.
@@thorhighheels I disagree with that. Silent Hill: Shattered Memories is a reimagining; same characters, no necessary correlation between stories. RE2 Remake, despite what Capcom wants to claim it is, is a remake; same story, different take on it. The same for RE1 Remake. I think the distinction between the terms is significant enough.
I mostly like remakes and remasters because it gives me the opportunity to play them on the console I mostly play on. I don't have to buy an old ps2, find my old gamecube, or at times scour the 4 corners of the globe to find a reasonably priced copy of a game that's doesn't cost over $100. Why buy an $85 ps1 copy of Megaman Legends 2 when I could play the psn version that costs $15.
Thissssss!!!! That's the reason why remakes and remasters are important
emulation exists
@@yeetusyourmeetus it's not easy or practical for everybody.
@@pedrozanon7245 This confuses me. So, why buy an $85 PS1 copy of Megaman Legends 2 when you could just buy the remaster for $60 instead?
If buying a copy of the game, and a console if you don't already have it, is too much of an issue, just emulate it. PS1-era consoles don't have a lot of technical demands on current technology. You can emulate PS1 games pretty easily even on a budget video card. Not to mention roms and emulators are incredibly easy to google.
@@Israphel776 well, I think it depends on the person/context. I know how emulation works and I can emulate these ps1 classics on my PC. But not everybody can/know. Second, while ps1 is easily emulated, it's not the same thing for ps2 and original xbox games for example. And that's where remasters enter. Thir there is context. In Brazil where I live for example, if Don't leave in Big cities like Sao Paulo or Rio de Janeiro, you are screwed. There is no retro market in my city or anything related. And old school games are very expensive and rare here. So, sometimes, remasters are the only way for me to play a game. And there's the thing where, if you don't want it, don't buy. But I'm sure a lot of people will appreciate the remaster/remake etc.
But some people legit want a "remake" as a total graphical changes & quality of life improvements only. It really depend on the vision of the devs themselves, whether to "re-imagined" or "rebuild 1x1" the game. Me personally, I don't mind both "remake" version as long as its a quality product.
Personally I don't think comments on the internet are very decisive with that. Most comments are humans simply doing a quick "THIS IS COOL" or "THE HYPE IS REAL" general comment and then that's it. To another, this (combined with likes and replies of agreement) gives off a taste of one sided fanboys. And if there's more spread around, it only becomes more grating, upsetting the contrast ratio.
Why not just make a new game at that point?
@@eandjproductions2 because technology and game design philosophies evolve and people want to see their favorite games updated... not hard to understand
@@jazzmaster909 Name me one truly great remake besides Resident Evil. Make something new. If those games were truly good games you can still enjoy and play the old versions.
eandjproductions2 RE1 remaker. Pokemom Red and Green remakes. Omega Ruby and alpha Saphire, Mortal Kombat (2011), Doom 2016...
Sorry to tell you but you aren't the authority in what makes a remake is worth making or not.
Dude I really agree with everything you said. It's also annoying that people want to cancel the entire ps1 and ps2 era by wanting everything remade. Shit they're even asking for an RE4 remake!
The classics are classics for a reason, they are great games. A great game remains a great game. I really hope Silent Hill 1-4 don't get remakes.
I can get the idea behind wanting a remake of the tank controlled RE, but why 4 ? It's not like the game aged bad and was hard to find
Wait who wants a REmake 4? That's absurd like asking for a Silent Hill Downpour Remake. That is true "why?" levels.
@@GhostOfBilly I swear I've seen people ask for an RE4 remake on RE4 videos after RE2 remake came out 😭
They want a remake of REmake...like...wow
@@Jose-se9pu Are you talking about RERElease? Because that was great. If you mean a top down remake of RE 1 with player controlled camera, they made that a couple years ago, titled it Resident Evil 7: Biohazard, and it was good too. If you mean one that isn't a spiritual successor but is a proper REboot, then I truly don't get it unless it's just the fans that OG people call "RE4 babies" who can't fathom a survival horror game that doesn't have a ton of gunplay, over the shoulder camera, or play closer to something like Gears of War than it does to a tense, atmospheric horror experience.
Ratchet - absolutely different game with different story
Can't make the hoverboard lady's boobs bigger with backflips, either. 0/10
Man I can't wait for a remake of this video.
this will almost 100% happen probably this year, yes.
This video needs a remake
I don0t want a RE3 remake, the story was even worse. Just make Residnt Evil 8 picking up from RE7.
Ans let Silent Hill die. I wrote a fucking 300 pages book about it and that was my conclusion. My book was more like a post-mortem on the series. Mortem. This means, don't come back, Fuck Konami, let Masahiro Ito explore new terrain.
This was what I hated about the MediEvil remake. I love the original PS1 game, but it's a game that I felt needed a new sequel with modern design capabilities that expanded on its potential. All the remake did was change the visuals, fixing nothing about the original's shortcomings and doing nothing substantial to expand on any of its ideas. It's a PS4 game that played exactly like the original PS1 game (while visually looking like a PS3 game, as the graphical upgrade wasn't even given a premium budget). In the end, there was nothing I enjoyed about the remake that I didn't already appreciate about the original, and after 20 years, it was a huge disappointment to see one of my favorite IP finally get a new release, only for it to be the exact same thing I'd always enjoyed. With game remakes, I don't want to "re-experience" anything. I want to experience something familiar in a new light. Though I'm probably a hypocrite in saying that because it always kind of bugs me when a remake uses a different visual style from the original, lol.
Lol now REmake 3 is out and there’s rumors of one for 4 already
We live in an endlessly repeating time loop
Agree with everything apart from the very last comment. They've remade the first two, might as well end the PS1 trilogy. I do get your point about it being a slippery-slope to remaking the rest of the series, but in most people's eyes I think 1-3 are practically a different series to 4-7 because of the drastic gameplay shifts. Brilliant video as per usual mate.
Yeah I mean, I would totally play an RE3 remake of course, but it's mostly the slippery slope thing that has me worried. Also thanks!
Remember what came out on the PS1 after Resi 3? A remake of that could be on the cards.
Mind you, with a VR focus... hmm. Could be genius, could be as big a turd as the first Survivor. This IS Crapcom, after all.
I think the reason so many people want remakes is mainly becuase so many games are so hard to play if you dont have older consoles. I just want re-releases.
FF7 really needs a remake because holy shit. Even when I was a kid, it was an ugly, unpolished piece of shit, but was, at the very least, 80% heart.
But they're probably gonna fuck it up by thinking everyone wants the flash at the cost of watching an asian woman calling a black man a retard as they run up 120 flights of stairs.
If people weren’t bullshiting there nostalgia they wouldn’t want remake they would appreciate the original art style but apparently they don’t anymore they just want shiney graphics that burns your eyes
My biggest gripe with people asking for remakes in a series is when they want another remake immediately after the most recent remake came out. Like, dudes, let that remake button sit for a while after some new games for the series are up.
Remakes and Remasters are just the lack of creativity and the entertainment industry running out of ideas as of late.
People just want to validate their own nostalgia. I guess. I kind of hate remakes and remasters since that's time and resources wasted when they could've made something new.
Also, nice pick on using the soundtrack from Spyro. NOSTALGIC.
Magic Warrior I don’t get that. Why would someone’s nostalgia need to be “validated”, and how’s does a remake/remaster even do that?
@@EndlessBreadstix Because. NOSTALGIA.
@@EndlessBreadstix jk. I don't really know. I guess people just want to take what seems like the best moments from their lives and relive them.
@@Zayindjejfj It's not really nostalgia for me when it comes to the RE2 remake. I just never liked the tank controls and fixed cameras. I wanted a remake to play the original RE games with a more enjoyable control scheme. I didn't really get into Resident evil until RE4 because of that. I didnt like it back then and it certainly didn't age well now.
I know some will probably call me not a true RE fan because of that but im just telling the truth on how I feel. I was never able to enjoy playing the older REs so I have no nostalgia for them.
You realize the majority of remasters specifically are outsourced to other companies like bluepoint right? That's not taking resources away from a game Sony JapanStudio could be making just because Shadow of the Colossus got remade, because it's not really them. And in the case of the Spyro and Crash remasters, being that neither studio has had a great track record for handling crash and Sypro, their remakes give them the tools and groundwork to potentially take what they learned, and make new games in those franchises due to the fact they had to make those old games from scratch. On top of the fact it makes those games playable on modern hardware and spruced up visually.
This ThorHighHeels video is great! It really deserves a remake.
Remakes introduce old games to new audiences, which I am glad about.
Same.
There dumb tho for not getting remasters or digital there fuckin normies
Man, the "do you ACTUALLY like the game then?" conversations with some people are arduous and covered in buts and ifs and other weird justifications. I've been in "so download and play it current age is not making it hard by any stretch of imagination!" camp for long while and appreciate when remakes do not try to be replacements. I have no idea why square bothers with pixel remake series of their classic games when megaman collectioning that stuff up is a choice but what do I know.
I understand the purpose of remakes, like
*Devs took the opportunity to remaster, polishing their old works.
*Introducing and make accessible "masterpieces" to newcomers
*out of idea and industry is dying gotta suck up that nostalgia money
Which all make sense. But yea, its annoying when remakes coming out like a plague. A bit concering even.
Im that guy that can't stand the n64 ps13 polygon character models so remakes from that era are a godsend
Same here. SNES is fine but early 3d game is abit hard to invest for me.
Brainlet.
yep, bought the Spyro cause I liked how it looks - more Pixary, and nice
I hope the next video will be titled "I don't get the hype around sequels"
Deivitsu because it sounds equally dumb
It’s easy to understand why people would want their favourite games remade
I think the best remakes are when a game could have been made better now then it was then, removing the things that may have held it back at the time to make something better. Even better if it was a game that was bad they decided to remake to make it actually decent because it had potential more than was it good to begin with. I've played plenty of games that had such good ideas or settings or whatever, but because of the technical limitations or (*insert financial, corporate, or direction problems here*), etc it did not turn out to be what it could have been. That to me is what a remake should be. Keeping the first game mostly intact and adding onto it stuff that makes it better, fixes it, and makes it worth re-buying. The problem is I can't think of a time when something didn't sell well but someone thought "Hmm this didn't sell well, maybe we can do it better now". No, it usually boils down to, "What is a popular title that people know and will shell out money for without thinking?" and likely those are games that don't really need remakes because they were fine as they were before. If anything they should call them reboots if they change the game in such great detail that it doesn't resemble the same game. That's just my opinion though and I'm only a dead mathematician and/or rapping paper dog, so what do i know?
Three words: Xenogears & Xenosaga.
The world deserves more Elly, more KOSMOS, more Zohar, and button combo commands again pls. Maybe this time the team would be able to actually finish the planned game, though I'd hesitate to actually support a remake/remaster if Monolith wasn't doing it and Kajiura wasn't around to do the sound.
They should remake only bad and modern games. Or the remakes themselves, to return them to the original vision.
We don't NEED remakes, but the gaming industry is terrible at record-keeping.
Publishers sitting on beloved IPs but not doing anything with them and/or cutting off the previous generation right after the new consoles come out. Game preservation is fucked outright, because legally playing old games has become an endeavor too costly to deal with. Buying old consoles, the old carts/CDs, the old controllers, assuming none of those are obscenely inflated due to rarity.
Game preservation and record keeping is fucked even more so due to the increase of gamers going digital only, not wanting to cherish or save it in a physical library. ALL remakes from now on should ideally include the original "untouched" version before the inevitable digital-only-lypse.
The Ratchet and Clank remake on ps4 was a major disappoinment.
Resident evil 3 remake is a thing now and it's awesome, let your suffering begin.
I think we just have higher standards
A couple of months back i made a similar video talking about if we should let some franchises die and in it i touched upon remakes/reboots. I personally think we won't see the end of remakes for a while if at all. It makes sense since these things print money like crazy. I don't mind the being around but i would like to see new ideas and IPs being made rather than just making something old look new by giving it a coat of paint. This is the first video of yours i see and i must say, i like what i'm seeing. Keep up the good work.
I see the appeal for a tech upgrade (whilst keeping the gameplay static) but I much prefer when stuff gets changed (not removed, changed). I think the Spyro trilogy (sans motion blur) was a good example of this HOWEVER I think it unlikely that this kind of remake be the standard.
They are now actually remaking Silent Hill... Eventho it is the second game, but still
Watched the video haha.
I like both remakes and remasters especially for games that I haven’t played in the past and I accept them for games I’ve already played because a lot of people haven’t got to play them yet.
I tend to by remasters of games I already own just for the trophy lists.
Companies are never your friends
Lemme propose to the entire industry:
The Golden Rule of Remakes and Remasters!™
- Do a vocal part of people like a game?
- Is the game not available to play, due to region locks or not being able to play on new hardware?
If both answers are yes: Remake or Remaster!
I can't even fathom being excited for anything related to Final Fantasy 7 anymore. I guess I'm biased because it was never my favorite by any stretch. But even I was excited when they started announcing spin-offs, sequels, movies and remakes. Because I thought Square was going to go back and tell us more about about the worlds of Final Fantasy we had only seen one adventure in.
But no. It's only Midgar/Gaia. And it's only Cloud. And Tifa. And the obligatory ghost of Aerith or whatever the fuck her name is. It's the sensation that's taken the world by storm: callbacks to FF7: how many can fit in this piece of commercial entertainment?
Not to mention Square's vision for the series hasn't lined up with mine for the last five mainline games, but don't get confused because they've only managed five in the last 15 or 20 fucking years.
At least FF7's development is going smoothly...meaning this THIRD round of development, in which the director (whose track record is questionable to say the least) found out he was the director only by asking and receiving some oblique answer like a Dark Souls riddle. I guess making Final Fantasy games for 35 years as a company doesn't prepare you for the arduous process of producing and marketing a Final Fantasy game, so just announce it whenever idiot.
So why are people gushing over Resident Evil 2's remake? Because it's awesome. It doesn't really matter if people were asking for it, or why they asked for it, but in the end it's all well that ends well if Capcom delivered a wonderful experience that captures the tension and fear of solving puzzles near zombies but is willing to take some of the retardation out of the puzzles. I personally don't wish for remakes, and I was skeptical of RE2, but in the end it's exactly what I wish the games had turned into instead of 4-6
Here's hoping FF7 remake never even completes production!
The game is most likely coming out by 2027
I don't really care too much for remakes. I'd rather have more remasters/ ports to make old games more accessible. Stuff like the Phantasy Star port on switch is a perfect example of what I want. An old game that can be adapted to a more modern audience with nice QOL features that are often optional.
I loved playing games like Mother 1 back in the day but nowadays it's hard to stomach an old JRPG with that type of grinding. So remasters or romhacks that better balance the amount of xp and money gained from battles really makes it more accessible without losing much of the original intent if done properly.
After playing RE2R i don't want a RE3R anymore . Its a generic AAA made by inexperienced people .
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I think remakes should still happen, just not to games that were already great. It's always a pleasant surprise if someone manages to make a bad game good. Castlevania the adventure rebirth was an awesome remake of one of the worst castlevanias
I don't really see what's hard to get with JRPG remakes. Their whole shtick were huge cities and dank art styles, and not only would people wanna explore more of them, they'd also wanna explore them in more detail than what was previously possible. I know I'd rather Kingdom Hearts trough Midgar than static pre-rendered screen trough it. Furthermore, I definitely would prefer it if turn based combat made a return, because there was barely anything wrong with it.
That's just the thing, the PS1 generation didn't have enough power there to fully realize what the creators probably envisioned, so there's nothing wrong with wanting their full vision realized, or their vision expanded upon. I fail to see how most fans wouldn't want that.
Of course, that's a load of bull when it comes to Crash and Spyro, not only did they ruin the aesthetic to varying degrees, both also play significantly worse for the most part, and one's so stupidly made that it causes motion sickness and other motion blurry shenanigans, making it basically unplayable to some people.
On an unrelated note, the Spyro remake should be pulled from shelves until they axe the motion blur.
Yeah, totally unrelated.
You give some reasons why, but overall I think the cons far outweigh the pros a remake for a Jrpg. Character designs don't tend to age well, ff7 is a big example of this I think, since the more realistic graphic of modern games can make the designs look ridiculous. Then there's the fact that the story will be more or less the same as in the original game, which means that the plot twists will not land like they did the first time. If there are changes to the story it will likely be due to fan opinion, like for example having Aerith live in FF7R, which cheapens the impact her death had the first time.
You're entitled to your opinion but I think that there are many flaws to remaking a jrpg that will make one a worse experience than a new game.
@@shawnjavery What's wrong with ridiculous designs in a JRPG? It's kinda their thing. Barret isn't any less ridiculous than he was back in the day.
As for the story, it depends on whether or not it's an improvement. But, if people still get emotional over Aerith's death despite them knowing it's coming, the rendering said death with better graphics and music would increase the impact exponentially. People love twists because they tend to make iconic scenes. And if those scenes can be improved, and they can, then what's the problem?
I could do with a Resident Evil 3 remake, maybe make it more open so it feels like you are actually exploring a city. But what I really want is a Code Veronica remake because that games has quite a few flaws (lack-luster level design, meaningless boss fights that can be run away from far too easily, Steve, etc...)
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Thank you. I'm definitely right there with you. I mean, don't get me wrong, I actually do like the idea of getting old games, mechanically, with a new coat of paint and maybe more polish, like Ratchet and Clank, which I thought was amazing. But I'll never stop wanting to smack people who are constantly asking for remakes. Heck, even with FFVII, I don't think a remake should have happened, in any form. And yes, I agree with Resident Evil, that it could have been its own scenario, and perhaps could have even been better off for it. I just love it because we're in tire shortage of proper Survival Horror games with inventory management and bullet conservation these days, and it was a return to form in that respect. I pretty much treat it like a full on reboot of the story.
I’ve enjoyed the remakes for the most part. HD updates, fresh graphics, and since the switch is my main console, portability.
I mostly see it as a cash grab by whatever company owns the nostalgia inducing game series but it gives me more options, so, why not release remakes? I can’t imagine it’s interfering with the release of new, creative, and innovative games _that_ much.
I really do appreciate when a game is completely remade (like RE1) though. I fresh perspective on a game that’s already been released is awesome and gives me more of a reason to play the remake besides nostalgia.
I think of remakes as if they meant for people who never played the originals and not the fans, it may not be true but it helps justify why they exist. Some fans will be impossible to please so I say dont even try with remakes just try to make a new experience. I could play the originals but for me it's very difficult to go back and play games with much worse graphics and controls that I'm used to. I'm not saying remake eveything but I think it's fine to do it with 20+ year old games and even then only if they didnt age well. I understand that remakes can stall franchises but they take nothing away from the originals. Hearing some people say that a remake somehow ruins or could ruin their experience of playing the original game is just rediculous. As for games I have played and if any were remade I would not buy and play the remakes unless they changed the experience similar to what re2 did, but for people who weren't even born when the original games came out this could be great. I have never played resident evil games until re2 remake came out, it looked great and I decided to pick up re1 remake and also play that, now I want to play more games in franchise, remakes or not now I'm invested. Without remakes I would have probably never bothered with resident evil. While I see that this remake trend is a slippery slope that could get out of control and it doesnt progress the gaming industry because its rehashing the same ideas I cant help but participate.
Remaies are goid for everyone
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My first reaction after seeing the trailer for *Legend of Zelda Link Awakening's remake,* followed by Koizumi's smug smile, was butwhy.gif. Looks like a toybox, compared to the "living breathing world inside your Gameboy" aesthetic of the original.
Although that didn't dissuade the zelda fanboys to circlejerk all over it.
This applies to almost all the examples you've used in your video, and which is my main criticism for it.
*All these games were made within the limitations of their hardware.* A "faithful" remake of such games would be pointless (ie not replace the original).
BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE
a) Games that were trying to push beyond the limits, but their remake realized it and/or can realize them.
Eg : Most consider REmake to be one of the few "replace the original" remake. Do you know what else comes to that list? *Homeworld Remastered.*
The original was a 3D strategy game that was trying its damn hardest to push beyond its limit, that the remaster (after the balance patch) finally hit the nail on.
b) Remake is worst than the original.
Eg : *Monkey Island*
Google "Dynamic music Monkey Island 2" and you'll be shocked as to why the original is still not digitally sold (and that how good emulation is necessary for preservation).
c) Remake "reviving" the series.
Eg : *XCOM*
2K held the rights for the brand and wanted to use it for making an action game, with a classic style remake at its side. Guess which one got critical and commercial success and which is the one everyone tries to forget.
Many hardcore purists of the original disregard the nu-COM games because they "cater to the casuals" (which is not true, both are hard games), but while there are differences, nu-COM won over because of better more readable UI, use of 3D providing better perspective and overall "modern" presentation.
d) Like the original, but not really.
Eg : *Street Fighter 2 (and its versions)* vs *Super Street Fighter 2*
I've read that whole different communities have come around both of these games (so you can argue that these are separate games).
E) Perspective change : *Maken vs Maken X* or *Baroque (PS1) vs Baroque (PS2)*
F) Story oriented vs gameplay oriented : If leaving the point of presentation out of this discussion, former is more likely to have a more "liberal" remake than the latter.
Eg (my mind got shut off and I forgot the examples, someone fill me in on this, lol)
I'll admit that I spent the entire duration of that Zelda trailer smiling. It looks and sounds adorable.
I dont even like zelda and it looks much better than some handheld game lol
The case with link's awakening is that the limitations of the gameboy also made the game a bit more bothersome, because of the lack of buttons, so a remake was good if not just to improve the overall gameplay, not only that, i think the visuals look amazing and considering that the game happens inside a dream world, i think they do a great job giving it a "dreamy" vibe
everyone keeps forgetting that konami already remade silent hill 1, it was just so unrecognizable to silent hill 1 that no one thinks about it. i sure dont think about it, except when people on twitter beg for a silent hill 1 remake. in fact, i wish i could think never think about it again
Not gonna lie, the only reason I wanted a direct remake of RE2 is because I'm afraid it might have been the last chance to ever see a new (well... at least newly made) high production value classic camera survival horror. I just like the style a lot, but I doubt they would return to it in an original entry.
Maybe in 15 years some suit decides it's _just what's needed_ to refresh the series or whatever, but I'm not exactly optimistic.
Otherwise I agree. I don't care about the remakes themselves - I have the originals, don't have a problem playing most old games and can safely ignore said remakes. It's the "I need a remake to bother" or "it got remade, so it MUST be better" attitudes I sometimes see in online discussions that bother me.
Buying the spyro remake was the worst idea ever. Spyro 2 was so alive and full of character, the new voice acting is standard disney shit, absolutely killed it for me.
Original Spyro has aged so fucking well. It looks great because it leaned into the limitations of PS1 so well.
i thought the Rsi 2 remake was shit,i refunded it
DUDE! That was an amazing vid! A classic for sure! This video will be a nostalgic milestone for fans that complete redefined an era . I can't wait to see you remake it with better character models, higher resolution, unnecessary and distracting content, better voice acting (arguably), and an over the shoulder camera that no one asked for. THAT would be amazing.... because you know this video came out like two weeks ago, and hasn't aged very well. Actually on the second viewing I have to say this sucks. VIVA LA REMAKE!
I would say RE2 is an exceptional remake because it actually is pretty close to the original. And after the last few RE games Capcom has produced I'm glad they have come back to their roots with this one. I still miss the pre rendered backgrounds and creepy camera angles but all and all I prefer this over any of the other recent RE games.
I feel like you're taking for granted how willing you are to put up with the utter garbage visuals of some of the early PS1 games; you have a channel where you play those games regularly, you're quite used to it, but the average person isn't. Similarly, because you have your channel, you actually have a voice to discuss and talk about games that you're passionate about, which is something that the remakes and remasters give to everyone by reintroducing/refocusing the gaming zeitgeist around them. Resident Evil is a great example of this, there is now tons of discussion about how great both the new one is and how good the classic is by those that want to compare the differences. People finally have an impetus to talk about it, experience it together en masse, build a community around it.
I would, without any doubt in my heart, gladly call a 5 year moratorium on production of any new games in order to remake and/or remaster every non-sprite based game in 1080/60. There are too many great games that never got their time in the sun, or were held back by hardware limitations.
I feel the same way, I know some game series that got revived because of a Remake
Loved the use of Spyro's music during RE2 difference talk
i love your transition slides thor
"Companies are never your friends, least of all Activision" tatoo idea
I think it's more of people not wanting to bother with old consoles and emulators, not actually some artistic reason they want remakes/remasters. Maybe some controls improvements along the way. And "old graphics". Although for me, graphics quirkiness of old consoles is really just a part of experience. It's like a style. I play on emulators and with anti-aliasing and resolution bumb up it's good as new. I don't even use 16:9 hacks - if the game is meant to be played at square aspect ratio then fine, it's not like I suffering here from anything.
Oh, and another amazing reason I heard is "because I can play it legally". DUDE. It's 1996 game. You want to support developers - buy from them something new they put out recently. Half of people who worked on the game is probably dead/retired/changed company already.
In that case why not just port/remaster The classic game instead?
I don't get the remake logic either. It's like you want to see your old house where you grew up but instead you want that house to be renovated from the scratch which makes it look nothing like the house you actually grew up in. Remakes kinda contradict nostalgia.
For me, I wanted an Ace Combat 3 Electrosphere remake and Racing Lagoon remastered just because we never got those in English . I mean we got AC3 but with the anime storyline stuff cut out. Thankfully the translation patch was done. I've heard some people wanted AC5 to be remade, and like, no. Why? The game's fine.
I will say, a Racing Lagoon (sequel!!) sounds sexy. With visuals like the 2015 Need For Speed, with it's dim street lights and m o i s t roads, sexy square designed characters in a modern setting. I want it. It's the only thing I want from Square tbh.
funny, i'm playing through AC3 now.
I was thinking about how nice it would be to have a remake as I really enjoyed the story but the gameplay itself pales in comparison to the later entries
Faeces Dismemberment yea the missions are rly short and the missions are kinda basic atm. You get to fly in space and the tunnel looks crazy tho
... How do you don't get it, specially talking about ps1 games, where everything was really experimental and didn't have things to be based on?
It's natural to want a re-do so the concepts can find its full potential. Metroid Zero Mission and both RE remakes are perfect examples of it.
A lot of this games were way beyond they time and tried blind to bring some controls and concepts that weren't that polished yet
I know I express that in this very video. Many games that are considered classics however, DID reach their full potential, so fully remaking them seems pointless, yet that's what a lot of people are asking for. For most games, a simple remaster should suffice.
Welp. Now the RE 3 remake is out, and an RE 4 remake is in the works. I don't even know what to think anymore. Also fucking spot on with the definition of remaster. That shit gets thrown around too now lmao
So you want remakes and not remasters?
I don't really think much about if a game is reboot, remake, remaster, rewhatever. All that matters to me is the experience it delivers. I sometimes play the original RE and sometimes the remake. They have the same title but ultimately they provide different experiences. I play dino crisis at least once every year because it is always fun, and if they rewhatever it one day I would probably check it out.
leon and licker slow-mo stare down begin...
Mr X : fuck this shit !
I truly understand ppl like you want to see less remakes. That'll be cool to bring something new and original for once. Not to mention some classics shouldn't be touched. Same goes to any media, like TV, movies etc. I'd love to see less remakes but at the same time I won't mind either as long as it stays faithful to the original and fix their mistakes.
I wish my brain weren't so stupid because then I'd be able to address all your spectacularly put points and have a real discussion. Alas, my brain is stupid so I've only the capacity to say "I agree". I even agree with a lot of the person-critical parts; I find myself to be a bit like Fucko, who constantly compares and contrasts - in my current Let's Play of Spyro: Reignited Trilogy, I'm *always* saying "Nope nope nope this isn't right" or "this is lovingly recreated" without much more commentary on it. There's so many points that struck a chord with me, but toward the end you say "all this [buying remakes] does is show how easily publishers can milk nostalgia", and that hit me hard - that someone else thinks (dare I say realises?) that instead of getting sequels from studios that are good at working with these franchises, we'll just see repeats until.... well, we don't. Until they stop making money, and we end up with what happened before - platform games stopped making money because there were too many in too little time. We're seeing it again now.
I'm looking forward to the Crash Team Racing: Bollocks Naming Conventions Fuelled thingy, because I'm the fastest racer in the galaxy so I'm always right about kart racers so I know it'll be good and if it's not then it's objectively shit. But I'm under no illusions that Beenox (the developers) won't see work again. They'll be back to doing ports or just helping out like Vicarious Visions and Toys for Bob (the Spyro and Crash Remasturbators) are currently doing, and there'll definitely not be an original kart racer again. At best we can hope for DLC for any current or future games.
Ending this, I loved how you compared Spyro the Dragon to Spyro Remasturbated (TRYING TO MAKE THAT WORD A THING GIVE ME A BREAK); once more you put my criticisms of art design to shame. I just talk about hues and pallettes and shit. Hashtag what's a pastel.
Good work as ever, from me and my stupid brain.
PS: You should check out the Ty the Tasmanian Tiger remasters on Steam. Overwhelmingly Positive, apparently! ^^
It's all about ratio balance to me. You see too much of one thing, and your human brain is gonna wanna see the other side(s). It's like that saying "The grass is always greener on the other side"
So too much Nostalgia (or remakes) and it feels like we're not advancing. Too much new stuff and it feels like we're forgetting the past and classics.
Heck take Capcom. All of a sudden there's praise galore for RE2 remake when Capcom was supposedly striking out
(Regardless of who got fired when or why and who took their places)
When RE3make comes out, I at least want them to include the original. I don't want the REmakes to replace the original. With how different they are, they should stand along side it. This isn't coming from a fan. I've never played the first 3 RE games. If I do want to try them, I would like to try them in their original form. Not a different game with similar level design and story
I just want remakes so others can play it and spawn a new generation of fans.
My feeling on remakes are this: if it's a good game that people like, don't remake it. No matter how hard you try, you'll never please everyone and there will always be something that someone prefers about the original. This causes a new issue of there no longer being a definitive version of the game.
But many people will still like it. And you can just prefer 1 version
Did not buy the game as the original is one of my favourite games ever, I'll leave it like that. Besides it's totally different game. I've been through re4 and 5, it's just not the same.
You're missing out. It's great. It's horror again
@@pinkguy5537 will look into it
And so, here we are, exactly one year later, and REmake3 is soon approaching. Ironic
I didn't even know you could sneak past lurkers tbh. I always just shoot them like I'm playing dead space 3 and going in the basement to kill some blind midgets that keep charging me when I shoot them
I can't think of a recent, good, new IP to come out of video games in a long time. When I think about the amount of remakes, remasters, and nostalgia-jerks present in pop culture, particularly gaming and cinema, I feel incredibly sad for the generation of children growing up in a world full of media made for adults who still want to feel like children... And how is that gonna translate when they get older?? I just want to see something wholly new, authentic and creative burst onto the scene, and it NOT be attached to some ridiculously overpowered corporation label that pumps out all incredibly indistinguishable media...
I kind of agree with you and while I am looking forward to the KOTOR Remake, I kind of wish it was more of a soft reboot. I wanted it to acknowledge the last two games as canon while also doing its own thing like the new GOW, basically a KOTOR 3 but also being its own game as well. Now we're only going to get Disney's version of the events.
What about less 'poor' (and/or lazy) remakes? I'm totally fine with reviving a brand or even a GENRE
(Hashtag RE2 remake and DINO CRISIS remake)
It started getting silly with Medievil. The problem is, that game already looked great. The choppy framerate and low-poly models gave it a strong nightmare before Christmas, stop-frame animation vibe. My perfect remake of this game would carry this further with a plasticine feel. Or FF7, which again was made all the better with a low resolution, low poly, synth feel. It very strongly reminded me of Blade Runner, or a retro view of what the future would look like. So, for example, I love the high-resolution background mods, as they add to that vibe... But hate the high-poly character mod for the original.
To be fair on the RE2 remake, I was amazed how close to the "feel" of the original it was... Although, owning a PSVR and RE7, I was really hoping they would add a brilliant VR mode with using the same engine.
CODE VERONICA SAVE ROOM MUSIC IS AWESOME. ITS HAUNTING AND MAKES ME FEEL WEIRD.
Ratchet & Clank 2016 shouldn’t be lumped in with Crash and Spyro, the remake of R&C changed much of the game. Many felt it was for the worst as well.
Thems fighting video titles
Wow, really great video. I'd love to see a remake!
Oof, you just fucking DABBED on Fungo! Good job!
heh
Tbh, I just want to play Spyro on handheld and w/o worrying if my PS2 has kicked the bucket every year I dig out the cords. Or the disk is too scratched. And you're totally right about the saturation - I never noticed.
I think the perfect remake example is the Resident Evil GC remake, I like the RE2 remake but I have a soft spot for the fixed camera angles (thankfully there's a fixed camera mod for RE2 remake). It has enough of the old game that I love but it implemented new enemies, bosses, mechanics and overhauled the levels, so it included enough new things so that the remake isn't just the same game over again but it still feels like the original.