We went thru this during and post Covid and survived. They strike is not only for salary increase but the threat of automation & AI. It's a lost cause. Automation is here to stay & will grow
@@LuKiSCraft This is not just merely about "automation being implemented". It has to be implemented SAFELY, with the assurance that the company will not just dump a machine onto the lap of the workers that "they" need to beta test by getting injured. The company also should guarantee that it will not only not dump the people, but that it WILL train them to work WITH the new machines.
@@turkizno The company has to be profitable, machine needs investment, and company is not a charity, they will fire a lot of worker if the machines can do their job for cheaper. Safely is always a given, the company has to pay up or even forced to close down if safety requirements are not met, but job security is not. It's up to the government to pick up the slack and ensure these workers get proper lay-off compensation or employment else where. Why waste time trying to stop what's inevitable?
Automation is coming whether workers like it or not. It's been that way since the days of the textile mills. Take the 50% raise and the other benefits and use it as a cushion while you train for a job where you're still needed. Don't demand the whole world slow down to make you happy. You will lose.
Funny how only the 1% ever gets to benefit from technology. When more than half the country is in poverty because of this the 1 percenters are going to start paying for it with their lives. And deservedly so.
@@ben-stryes, why be the last person at the party, exit early with your dignity. Invest, save, learn something new. It’s not the end of the world, especially when you knew it was coming
@@ben-str actually my job is one of those where AI and automation might replace me. There are 2 things you/I/we can do: 1. protest and get replaced eventually. 2. Improvise, adapt, overcome.
As it should be, and hopefully will be. These workers need to be doing other jobs that are really needed (roofing, electricians, plumbing, house building, etc.) where automation is currently impossible.
i need my company to agreed my $100 per hour, full healthcare, a house and car provided, groceries fully covered, full insurance, tax free for life and full life employed
$100 an hour isn't what they're currently earning though, it's $21/hour average (and places like California/coastal usually have higher cost of living and a higher minimum wage, California is $16/hour).
@@theskyehiker if the company starts to add more automation then the workers stop and then the companies lose money so they really can't add more automation unless they plan to close down for like 3 to 4 months
They also have the opportunity to make $81,000 up to $200,000 in overtime. That is pure greed. Most people in America don't even make that kind of salary, let alone that kind of pay for overtime.
Blk democratic truckers should lead the truckers strike & get their cut along with the longshoremen. Truckers who are Trump supporters are not competent enough to fight for themselves if Maga doesn’t tell them too. They’re mindless 🐑🐑🐑🐑
No it’s not. Just people exercising their rights to go on strike. Not greed when you compare the CEO’s or management making 4x (if not more) then the average worker’s salary. Calm down and sit down.
@@alexlopez5800 Yes, they do have a right to strike, but asking for a 77% raise is ridiculous, and I would say more than 70% of normal American citizens would agree with me. I have no need to calm down or sit down. I'm as calm as a lethargic person sitting on a couch. Most people who work for a company their Ceo's make 399% more on a national average. I have no need to calm down or sit down. I'm as chill as an ice cube just presenting facts that came from their union rep.
If it can be automated, automate it! Then the workers can do other jobs that generate wealth that can't be automated and the whole country is more productive and richer. There is plenty of need for people in the trades (plumbing, electrician, roofing, house building, etc.)
The issue with automation is that unless it can literally be done overnight with no snafus, the capital outlay and risk of disruption to port operations is not insignificant. Especially since a disruption affects the broader economy that is dependent on importing and exporting goods and commodities, rather than the damage being confined to a company in a single economic sector. Basically, if automation seemed viable, it would have been pushed through by now. That it hasn't been suggests greater considerations to implement it exist beyond the union and companies being at odds over compensation.
The American people need to fight the ILA for crippling our economy and raising our prices for their own greed. Automation needs to come as soon as humanly possible.
Do you like getting injured by unsafe machines? Then stand with the Union. This is not just merely about "automation being implemented". It has to be implemented SAFELY, with the assurance that the company will not just dump a machine onto the lap of the workers that "they" need to beta test by getting injured. The company also should guarantee that it will not only not dump the people, but that it WILL train them to work WITH the new machines.
Majority of this mofo don’t want even to put in work. Ones you in those ports it takes them forever to find your load, load you and all that. Always thanking their sweet time…
the real need is "efficiency" , which can only able to achieve through automation . The whole world is moving forward , the country that don't will lost compete forever .
I'd say th IlA is going to have a hard time winning hearts and minds (read constituents) to their cause. The average American worker will never see a 50% raise let alone one coupled with more employer contributions to Healthcare and retirement. It doesn't matter what the company makes. It's called capitalism. We should be glad to work for a company that is profitable, it creates job security. It's just the way it works here. Take the money and run. Plan and invest well and get ready for the day you're replaced by a machine.
Seems they are making automation more likely declining a 50% raise, triple retirement contributions. There are no people traveling enmasse in horse and carriage either. I think they are just adding another argument for automation.
So, instead of finding someone from the Union and asking them directly, they ask Mr Moustache guy here. How come? Edit: saying it's 50% and not adding that it's over 6 years is pretty terrible, manipulative even. How many years have wages not kept up with inflation, and while companies are posting record profits and executives are making hundreds of times the average wage, they don't want to pay them what they're asking for? Bunch of misers.
does it really matter though? We're all being hit hard and alot of American workers would love a 50% increase over several years. Instead they just make it harder for all of us...
Replace all of them! Entry level starts around $100,000! Let her go out in the real world and get $10/hr like so many other American workers. A lot of people willing to step up and work those jobs!
@@dlight9849 it's the job of the government to be morally good, unions and companies are just about maximizing shareholder profit or employee livelihoods
The ILA union boss, Harold Daggett, made over 1 million last year, has a 1.7 million dollar home, and a 76 foot yacht. They have about 10 "VPs" of the union each making over 200k per year. Over 25% of NY dockworkers made over 200k last year, yet you want a 77% raise to unload cargo?
@@sparks1792This may come as a surprise to you, but with literally every other company in the United States, CEOS and companies make significantly more than their workers. I don’t want our prices to be crippled because some union wants to practice extortion via monopoly with childish demands.
@@SovettaParmetta Yes they make more nobody’s gonna stop that but make it fair. People are being pushed out of jobs for machines. Of course they want more compensation. Also Boeing CEO made a lot of money last year. Do you think he deserves it?
@@sparks1792 crippling the nation because you want to go from $40/hr to $70/hr means you are a threat to the American people. Enough said. If you want to complain about how much money millionaires have, find a way to do it without making the average American people suffer.
So weird. Their demands and all... They say they are standing against European companies, but where their monies will be coming from? American consumers.
50% pay increase and "better" life insurance and it was turned down 😮. I support the workers, but man I would have done that deal. They do have a genuine concern about automation taking their jobs. First its the gate attendant, then the forklift operators, the truck drivers next, and finally the crane and shipmates. Ensuring they have safeguards when automation nears isn't selfish its smart. Maybe unwarranted, but thats what the writers thought too
You take the first slice immediately, instead of waiting for the whole pizza. They are waiting it out to get the whole pizza. 50% pay means they will be well off for... a couple years. Remember, inflation is skyrocketing, that 50% pay will not stay that way for long and become the "base pay amount" once again. They are working for the long run so they will be assured benefits until they stop working.
A 50% pay increase along with additions to their pension and other benefits is worth more than 50%. This is outrageous and greed on the part of the employees. Yes, I understand that the shipping companies made a huge profit right after covid and didn't share the profits with the employees well, and neither did 90% of other companies that made huge profits after covid. Wanting a 77% wage increase is something I absolutely don't support and hope they don't get it.
You realize being mad at the workers is the dumbest possible way to look at this, right? The Divide and Conqueror lesson in middle school must have gone over your head. Then, out the window.
Their protest isn't just the salary, it's also automation. And 50% needs to be put in context, the average salary for dock workers is under $21/hour while minimum wage is $16 in California, 50% increase for the bottom portion is probably just pushing them to $25-30 for starting and $30-35 for "experienced", which is barely a livable wage there.
Why are they a disgrace? Most people would fight to keep their professions, which is the most important thing for them. They won’t be successful but, I can see where they are coming from.
@@theskyehiker because they try to blackmail the country because they don’t have competition. If a company that was a monopoly used its power like this it would be broken up by the government.
This is not going to end well for these workers. That was a great offer. They're not going to be able to prevent automation. By the end of this next contract, there could be a billion humanoid robots in the world. It's basically the same if the blacksmiths tried to prevent Ford from making cars.
One billion humanoid robots doesn't sound like the sort of thing that ends well for anyone, economically, at least under the current capitalist market dynamic. That includes the companies who would buy said robots, because they will still have business expenses and need revenue to recoup their investment, afford essentials, and hopefully earn a profit. 'Zero cost' labor ceases to be an advantage if every business can do it, and then face declining earnings because fewer and fewer humans have money to spend, causing an economic collapse as businesses go under and start pulling other parts of the economy down with them.
the port should open more freelances and new non experience workers to get opportunities to work at these ports. not only the pioneer dock workers. many of us are willing to learn and accept the 50% that the company offers.
People saying 50% is greed? It really is not, can’t support a family on that wage, cost of living has skyrocketed. Food itself has had an exponential markup. Inflation increases, costs of goods sky rocket, housing is ridiculous, wages don’t change. Who are all these bots in chat saying 50% is greed?
That’s not true, 50% is a good deal, not greedy, but a good deal considering their level of education, even those in other sectors with massive school loans don’t have that kind of package. No where in the world has that level of deal.
this remind me to 10 years ago, when e-commerce began rising. every store owner protested, mal and trading center protested, but new technology couldn't be stop. In the end they had to adapt
@@sociolocomtsacthen govt needs to shrink first and cut taxes and regulations then youll see a company like Amazon enticed to provide better wages for workers
I do agree with one thing the man said robots don’t pay taxes and is a fair point we as workers pay income tax and perhaps we should introduce taxes on machines equivalent to how many jobs said machine takes away. That tax can then go solely to either paying for services like unemployment that automation brings and or lowering national debt.
Workers wouldn’t need to strike as much if they weren’t getting shafted by landlords and insurance companies. If companies keep subsidizing the increased cost of living, this will never end. Just like how federal subsidization of college didn’t make it cheaper or better.
All you have to do is look at how much housing costs in Southern California. I went to UCLA for university and already 10 years ago apartments were $2000 and houses were $500,000. The cost is now double.
the real need is "efficiency" , which can only able to achieve through automation . The whole world is moving forward , the country that don't will lost compete forever .
There will be automation, you can't stop that (since you can't expand port size, it's the only way to handle more cargo), union should instead have a demand that if automation it needs to basically retrench the position it replaces at a salary that the worker can spend like 10 years searching for a new job.
50% pay means they will be well off for... a couple years. Remember, inflation is skyrocketing, that 50% pay will not stay that way for long and become the "base pay amount" once again. They are working for the long run so they will be assured benefits until they stop working.
Robots dont go on strike for a pay raise and dont need health care . The government needs to think about UBI and making the american people money instead of pocketing everything .
Average Pacific Maritime Association Longshoreman hourly pay in the United States is approximately $43.82, which is 120% above the national average. Salary information comes from 2 data points collected directly from employees, users, and past and present job advertisements on Indeed in the past 36 months.
Automation wouldn't be so bad if it actually increased productivity and output by having it coexist with the actual workers rather than completely replacing them, in effect doing the same work with a small amount of productivity increase and not having to pay workers wages. While these workers are ultimatly worried about their livelihoods, automation in order to replace workers with effectic slave labor will only hemorage the economy in the future as it relies on people earning enough wages to spend on goods the require and want. This increases demand then supply and that detrmines the economic outlook.
It may result in something not done in over 60 years; a Presidential back to work order on the grounds of national security, and continued negotiations between labor and management.
1:10, 😳, exactly my face. Their is thin line between protecting ur job and being cut off from global trends ( it's really lucky that US ports have not implemented any automation still), but it will happen now or in future..
Nothing against the union, imagine the majority are hard working honest guys. But machines can't be bribed into smuggling. Which has happened in ports around the world for decades. Take the deal or loose what public sentiment you still have & are replaced by automation even faster. And it's not A.I. it's end to end sophisticated sorting. But good politicking.
Id put military personnel running the ports and keeping supplies moving and shut down one or two ports at a time and start automating them. Once their automated shut down one or two more and automate those until completely automated
Pay American workers what they deserve!!! If they can send billions in military and other aids to foreign countries, they can pay our own people a proper wage.
port worker who are making up to $200,000 a year is as greedy as the Ceo's. You want more money go to college and start your own company. N ot everyone will become rich working for someone else. Their greed is ridiculous. Wanting a 77% pay increase plus the other benefits they are negotiating.
I feel for them. Automation will crush their profession and jobs will be lost. I’m sorry for them but I don’t see how they will prevail. It’s just the sign of the times.
50% up is really good The AI problem is a big issue and they are right to protect their way of life. Yet for every 10 ports that refuse AI, 1 will take it in, becoming the cheapest to operate and the other 10 ports will not be able to compete with it. We are seeing the end of mankind
We went thru this during and post Covid and survived. They strike is not only for salary increase but the threat of automation & AI. It's a lost cause. Automation is here to stay & will grow
Yeah exactly, stopping technology is like trying to stop a train. You don't want to be in the way
AI is wiping out jobs and no protections will come from government.
@@LuKiSCraft This is not just merely about "automation being implemented". It has to be implemented SAFELY, with the assurance that the company will not just dump a machine onto the lap of the workers that "they" need to beta test by getting injured.
The company also should guarantee that it will not only not dump the people, but that it WILL train them to work WITH the new machines.
@@turkiznook bot
@@turkizno The company has to be profitable, machine needs investment, and company is not a charity, they will fire a lot of worker if the machines can do their job for cheaper. Safely is always a given, the company has to pay up or even forced to close down if safety requirements are not met, but job security is not. It's up to the government to pick up the slack and ensure these workers get proper lay-off compensation or employment else where. Why waste time trying to stop what's inevitable?
Automation is coming whether workers like it or not. It's been that way since the days of the textile mills. Take the 50% raise and the other benefits and use it as a cushion while you train for a job where you're still needed. Don't demand the whole world slow down to make you happy. You will lose.
Funny how only the 1% ever gets to benefit from technology. When more than half the country is in poverty because of this the 1 percenters are going to start paying for it with their lives. And deservedly so.
Well said
This
The shipworkers control the world Dummy well at least the companies they work for.
@@brianrobinson4710 until the public see price rises and pressures biden to deal with these blackmailer
Fire them I'll go to work
But they can't... striker's job are protected by law 🤢🤢🤢
@@konigstiger3252 them they can come and invest in Gujrat.
The disenfranchisement of the working man continues as mega profits for the corporates skyrocket.
Yet you see aassive amount of comments bashing the "greedy" unions. If enough to make you lose hope in the country.
If u think you are worthy. U can start up a business and get rich like them. Why envy them.
Protesting automation is the stupidest thing to protest.
TBH I have to agree because it only incentivizes further automation, doesn't it? Lol
If you're working a job where automation threatens to take away your job.
Is it the stupidest thing for You to protest?
@@ben-stryes, why be the last person at the party, exit early with your dignity. Invest, save, learn something new. It’s not the end of the world, especially when you knew it was coming
@@ben-str actually my job is one of those where AI and automation might replace me. There are 2 things you/I/we can do: 1. protest and get replaced eventually. 2. Improvise, adapt, overcome.
@@daniil3815 Improvise, adapt, overcome. > that's the right attitude
Visit the port of Hamburg. It is almost entirely automated. That's what the union is fighting and striking to prevent.
As it should be, and hopefully will be. These workers need to be doing other jobs that are really needed (roofing, electricians, plumbing, house building, etc.) where automation is currently impossible.
@@Sidicas amen
Not impossible
No doubt this strike will hasten the very thing the workers don’t want.
All Chinese ports are highly automated. It was the only realistic way to handle so much cargo.
i need my company to agreed my $100 per hour, full healthcare, a house and car provided, groceries fully covered, full insurance, tax free for life and full life employed
McDonald's ain't doing that bro
@@brianrobinson4710 my demanding is slightly more than the dock workers asking for
$100 an hour isn't what they're currently earning though, it's $21/hour average (and places like California/coastal usually have higher cost of living and a higher minimum wage, California is $16/hour).
That's just outright GREED 50 percent
They already make like $200k. Lol. Insane rent-seeking
@@aguawassereau3372 thats with working 80 hours a week
@@UnreachableStringThat’s what it takes to earn 200k with just a HS diploma. 50% is a more than adequate raise. To ask for more is, yes, greed.
50% over 6 years!!! I need to work at the docks. My pay took 15 years to increase by 50%.
They turned it down because they want 77% not 50%.... 77% along with the added for pensions, Healthcare and others.
Well after 6 years they won't have a job. They'll be replaced by robots.
sounds like you need a union
Don’t quit your job cuz these jobs are gonna be gone in no time at all. That is what they are fighting.
@@theskyehiker if the company starts to add more automation then the workers stop and then the companies lose money so they really can't add more automation unless they plan to close down for like 3 to 4 months
They also have the opportunity to make $81,000 up to $200,000 in overtime. That is pure greed. Most people in America don't even make that kind of salary, let alone that kind of pay for overtime.
Blk democratic truckers should lead the truckers strike & get their cut along with the longshoremen. Truckers who are Trump supporters are not competent enough to fight for themselves if Maga doesn’t tell them too. They’re mindless 🐑🐑🐑🐑
No it’s not. Just people exercising their rights to go on strike. Not greed when you compare the CEO’s or management making 4x (if not more) then the average worker’s salary. Calm down and sit down.
Because the employer gives in too easily, it gives them the idea that they can ask for more.
@@alexlopez5800 Yes, they do have a right to strike, but asking for a 77% raise is ridiculous, and I would say more than 70% of normal American citizens would agree with me. I have no need to calm down or sit down. I'm as calm as a lethargic person sitting on a couch. Most people who work for a company their Ceo's make 399% more on a national average. I have no need to calm down or sit down. I'm as chill as an ice cube just presenting facts that came from their union rep.
@@williamkraft5574 it doesnt sound like youre calm right now, you should really calm down
If it can be automated, automate it! Then the workers can do other jobs that generate wealth that can't be automated and the whole country is more productive and richer. There is plenty of need for people in the trades (plumbing, electrician, roofing, house building, etc.)
Suuuuuure....go to Flint Michigan and tell me how that approach worked for their city.
You can't teach an old dog new tricks.
The issue with automation is that unless it can literally be done overnight with no snafus, the capital outlay and risk of disruption to port operations is not insignificant. Especially since a disruption affects the broader economy that is dependent on importing and exporting goods and commodities, rather than the damage being confined to a company in a single economic sector.
Basically, if automation seemed viable, it would have been pushed through by now. That it hasn't been suggests greater considerations to implement it exist beyond the union and companies being at odds over compensation.
The American people need to fight the ILA for crippling our economy and raising our prices for their own greed. Automation needs to come as soon as humanly possible.
Do you like getting injured by unsafe machines? Then stand with the Union. This is not just merely about "automation being implemented". It has to be implemented SAFELY, with the assurance that the company will not just dump a machine onto the lap of the workers that "they" need to beta test by getting injured.
The company also should guarantee that it will not only not dump the people, but that it WILL train them to work WITH the new machines.
Nobody can stop progress, only the fools protest against the future.
Their future?
Automation is inevitable and always has been.
Exactly, I could care less about these fools
So is taxes but people still evade them
Majority of this mofo don’t want even to put in work. Ones you in those ports it takes them forever to find your load, load you and all that. Always thanking their sweet time…
“Load” wooooh there! 😅
@@trustandbelieve9173 ??
Yes, automation IS unstoppable. Time to learn some new skills. Sorry to be insensitive.
the real need is "efficiency" , which can only able to achieve through automation .
The whole world is moving forward , the country that don't will lost compete forever .
I'd say th IlA is going to have a hard time winning hearts and minds (read constituents) to their cause.
The average American worker will never see a 50% raise let alone one coupled with more employer contributions to Healthcare and retirement.
It doesn't matter what the company makes. It's called capitalism. We should be glad to work for a company that is profitable, it creates job security. It's just the way it works here.
Take the money and run. Plan and invest well and get ready for the day you're replaced by a machine.
Seems they are making automation more likely declining a 50% raise, triple retirement contributions. There are no people traveling enmasse in horse and carriage either. I think they are just adding another argument for automation.
They are going to get laid off anyway. And AI will replace them
Even if he calls on that labor law it's up to the laborers to obey it.
So, instead of finding someone from the Union and asking them directly, they ask Mr Moustache guy here.
How come?
Edit: saying it's 50% and not adding that it's over 6 years is pretty terrible, manipulative even. How many years have wages not kept up with inflation, and while companies are posting record profits and executives are making hundreds of times the average wage, they don't want to pay them what they're asking for? Bunch of misers.
Journalism and the truth are two different things. What we are seeing here is Journalism.
@@0farmerjohn0You nailed it perfectly mate
It's a German news agency reporting on foreign events, you cant expect excellence. Look, at least they reached out to an industry expert academic.
does it really matter though? We're all being hit hard and alot of American workers would love a 50% increase over several years. Instead they just make it harder for all of us...
@@jayjohnson4375 then band together as one, stronger in numbers
TELL US the SALARIES of the CEO's of these companies, THEN tell us what these hard working people earn. THEN Make it make sense
Your mind is so simple. What a pleasure it must be to be so ignorant.
Time to replace them greedy most of em look over weight prob not working hard enough who's behind this
These guys are making everyone poorer! Why is not anybody protesting against them??
This will affect the US elections.
Replace all of them! Entry level starts around $100,000! Let her go out in the real world and get $10/hr like so many other American workers. A lot of people willing to step up and work those jobs!
You’re not even American lmao
@@sparks1792 yeah? Prove it Chumly!
@@sparks1792 I am American and I'll work for the docks for $100~200K/yr + 50% increase and pensiosn. So will millions of Americans.
@@sociolocomtsacyou'll work for a day then quit like your girlfriend quit on you
@@brianrobinson4710 Cool story, Brian 😂 Enjoy being automated and unemployed soon.
“Automation “ hurts families? Not doing your dock job hurts families.
Unions pay the wages while they're on strike
@@ayoCC he means not doing there job will hurt other famalies not theres :/
@@ayoCCAnd who's paying higher prices for goods because they're on strike? All Americans are suffering because of greedy unions.
@@dlight9849 it's the job of the government to be morally good, unions and companies are just about maximizing shareholder profit or employee livelihoods
Workers: We dont want automation. Also workers: if you dont give us 100% raises we won't work, therefore requiring automation. Bruh.
The ILA union boss, Harold Daggett, made over 1 million last year, has a 1.7 million dollar home, and a 76 foot yacht. They have about 10 "VPs" of the union each making over 200k per year. Over 25% of NY dockworkers made over 200k last year, yet you want a 77% raise to unload cargo?
Look at you groveling at the feet of billionaires
@@sparks1792This may come as a surprise to you, but with literally every other company in the United States, CEOS and companies make significantly more than their workers. I don’t want our prices to be crippled because some union wants to practice extortion via monopoly with childish demands.
@@SovettaParmetta Yes they make more nobody’s gonna stop that but make it fair. People are being pushed out of jobs for machines. Of course they want more compensation. Also Boeing CEO made a lot of money last year. Do you think he deserves it?
Yes 😅
@@sparks1792 crippling the nation because you want to go from $40/hr to $70/hr means you are a threat to the American people. Enough said. If you want to complain about how much money millionaires have, find a way to do it without making the average American people suffer.
So weird. Their demands and all... They say they are standing against European companies, but where their monies will be coming from? American consumers.
Exactly
50% pay increase and "better" life insurance and it was turned down 😮. I support the workers, but man I would have done that deal. They do have a genuine concern about automation taking their jobs. First its the gate attendant, then the forklift operators, the truck drivers next, and finally the crane and shipmates. Ensuring they have safeguards when automation nears isn't selfish its smart. Maybe unwarranted, but thats what the writers thought too
You take the first slice immediately, instead of waiting for the whole pizza. They are waiting it out to get the whole pizza.
50% pay means they will be well off for... a couple years. Remember, inflation is skyrocketing, that 50% pay will not stay that way for long and become the "base pay amount" once again. They are working for the long run so they will be assured benefits until they stop working.
A 50% pay increase along with additions to their pension and other benefits is worth more than 50%. This is outrageous and greed on the part of the employees. Yes, I understand that the shipping companies made a huge profit right after covid and didn't share the profits with the employees well, and neither did 90% of other companies that made huge profits after covid. Wanting a 77% wage increase is something I absolutely don't support and hope they don't get it.
You realize being mad at the workers is the dumbest possible way to look at this, right? The Divide and Conqueror lesson in middle school must have gone over your head. Then, out the window.
Their protest isn't just the salary, it's also automation. And 50% needs to be put in context, the average salary for dock workers is under $21/hour while minimum wage is $16 in California, 50% increase for the bottom portion is probably just pushing them to $25-30 for starting and $30-35 for "experienced", which is barely a livable wage there.
Excellent and a very sobering report. The professor makes some telling points. Some folk are going to lose work. And pretty soon I'd guess.
These unions are really just a disgrace.
fighting for workers rights when exploiting workers is the norm is not a disgrace, it's exactly what we need more of.
Why are they a disgrace? Most people would fight to keep their professions, which is the most important thing for them. They won’t be successful but, I can see where they are coming from.
@@theskyehiker because they try to blackmail the country because they don’t have competition. If a company that was a monopoly used its power like this it would be broken up by the government.
This is not going to end well for these workers. That was a great offer. They're not going to be able to prevent automation. By the end of this next contract, there could be a billion humanoid robots in the world. It's basically the same if the blacksmiths tried to prevent Ford from making cars.
One billion humanoid robots doesn't sound like the sort of thing that ends well for anyone, economically, at least under the current capitalist market dynamic. That includes the companies who would buy said robots, because they will still have business expenses and need revenue to recoup their investment, afford essentials, and hopefully earn a profit.
'Zero cost' labor ceases to be an advantage if every business can do it, and then face declining earnings because fewer and fewer humans have money to spend, causing an economic collapse as businesses go under and start pulling other parts of the economy down with them.
They are greedy 😠 😡
They should removed the unions bosses who love greedy
Machines don't strike
the port should open more freelances and new non experience workers to get opportunities to work at these ports. not only the pioneer dock workers. many of us are willing to learn and accept the 50% that the company offers.
How many of those strikers order stuff from Amazon its automation from the warehouse
Bingo
Highschool washouts making 6 figures. America ! What a country !
U gotta be Street smart.
Greedy greedy. When you can make ~200K, 50% is plenty. You can't bargain for business decisions. Just wages and working conditions.
Let’s replace reporters with AI
People saying 50% is greed? It really is not, can’t support a family on that wage, cost of living has skyrocketed. Food itself has had an exponential markup. Inflation increases, costs of goods sky rocket, housing is ridiculous, wages don’t change. Who are all these bots in chat saying 50% is greed?
That’s not true, 50% is a good deal, not greedy, but a good deal considering their level of education, even those in other sectors with massive school loans don’t have that kind of package. No where in the world has that level of deal.
Well, if you want to be a viable harbor, you have to go the automation route!
this remind me to 10 years ago, when e-commerce began rising. every store owner protested, mal and trading center protested, but new technology couldn't be stop. In the end they had to adapt
this is the reason Amazon does not want union
Yeah, these guys can get real greedy, but Amazon should pay decent wages and working conditions from the start.
@@sociolocomtsacthen govt needs to shrink first and cut taxes and regulations then youll see a company like Amazon enticed to provide better wages for workers
@@nicklll4477what a clown when you lose job and are homeless don’t ask for pennies for your children to buy bread
I do agree with one thing the man said robots don’t pay taxes and is a fair point we as workers pay income tax and perhaps we should introduce taxes on machines equivalent to how many jobs said machine takes away. That tax can then go solely to either paying for services like unemployment that automation brings and or lowering national debt.
Ironically their strike reaffirms the port authorities that they must move towards automation.
Retrain them.
Workers wouldn’t need to strike as much if they weren’t getting shafted by landlords and insurance companies. If companies keep subsidizing the increased cost of living, this will never end. Just like how federal subsidization of college didn’t make it cheaper or better.
All you have to do is look at how much housing costs in Southern California. I went to UCLA for university and already 10 years ago apartments were $2000 and houses were $500,000. The cost is now double.
About one-third of local longshoremen made $200,000 or more a year.
😂😂😂😂
Wont the automation tech need some kind of installation, maintenance and preventative maintenance? Why not get into that line of work?
Yes, but that requires engineering degree years of schooling and dock workers don’t know how to do that maintenance
50% increase tells you they were underpaid. What a life working class people tolerate.
the real need is "efficiency" , which can only able to achieve through automation .
The whole world is moving forward , the country that don't will lost compete forever .
What a bunch of lazy workers
look at the salaries of the CEO's and tell me who's lazy
@@callmearmstrong how about you look at the salaries and payouts of the union bosses? How are union bosses rich af? Aren’t they pro wage equality?
There will be automation, you can't stop that (since you can't expand port size, it's the only way to handle more cargo), union should instead have a demand that if automation it needs to basically retrench the position it replaces at a salary that the worker can spend like 10 years searching for a new job.
Automation defines our future. It's a weak argument to not have it.
Give the workers their due. Increase their wages.
50% pay means they will be well off for... a couple years. Remember, inflation is skyrocketing, that 50% pay will not stay that way for long and become the "base pay amount" once again. They are working for the long run so they will be assured benefits until they stop working.
Automation can at least get half of the port workers out of their current posts. At that time, they will not even have the 50% increase.
Robots dont go on strike for a pay raise and dont need health care . The government needs to think about UBI and making the american people money instead of pocketing everything .
Average Pacific Maritime Association Longshoreman hourly pay in the United States is approximately $43.82, which is 120% above the national average. Salary information comes from 2 data points collected directly from employees, users, and past and present job advertisements on Indeed in the past 36 months.
I support the longshoremen. Make the foreign shipping companies who’ve reported record profits pay American workers, all workers worldwide.
The union is the biggest problem.
Automate the Reporter then ask him how it feels
He would cry like a little girl
Artificial Intelligence will eventually do that as well
many Americans would love to work under a new offer from the company. count us in. give others a chance since some didn't appreciate
50 percent ?!?!??? Please give that to me at my job
Automation wouldn't be so bad if it actually increased productivity and output by having it coexist with the actual workers rather than completely replacing them, in effect doing the same work with a small amount of productivity increase and not having to pay workers wages. While these workers are ultimatly worried about their livelihoods, automation in order to replace workers with effectic slave labor will only hemorage the economy in the future as it relies on people earning enough wages to spend on goods the require and want. This increases demand then supply and that detrmines the economic outlook.
Recession
Automation makes things cheaper and more efficient! Better get a different Job! Ha ha
It may result in something not done in over 60 years; a Presidential back to work order on the grounds of national security, and continued negotiations between labor and management.
I’ll take a 50% raise!!!
What a Stache!!!
Remember the strike on the west coast a few years ago?
1:10, 😳, exactly my face. Their is thin line between protecting ur job and being cut off from global trends ( it's really lucky that US ports have not implemented any automation still), but it will happen now or in future..
Nothing against the union, imagine the majority are hard working honest guys. But machines can't be bribed into smuggling. Which has happened in ports around the world for decades. Take the deal or loose what public sentiment you still have & are replaced by automation even faster. And it's not A.I. it's end to end sophisticated sorting. But good politicking.
As longshoreman as 50% wage increase is not enough!
It's tough living on $175,000 in Jersey
that deal is useless without job cause of automation.
Meanwhile in China, most ports are already run full automatically and the efficiency just broke record in qingdao this month
Id put military personnel running the ports and keeping supplies moving and shut down one or two ports at a time and start automating them. Once their automated shut down one or two more and automate those until completely automated
Selfishness like this will destroy the econo my of the US. We will all lose because of this greedy effort
Did Jason’s razor go on strike
Pay American workers what they deserve!!! If they can send billions in military and other aids to foreign countries, they can pay our own people a proper wage.
"Workers of the world, unite!" ✊
"Dislexics of the world, untie!"
I bet all those workers have been through the self-checkout at least once
Information is strong, yet deceptive
Port workers, farmers, auto workers, reached the end of the rope
port worker who are making up to $200,000 a year is as greedy as the Ceo's. You want more money go to college and start your own company. N ot everyone will become rich working for someone else. Their greed is ridiculous. Wanting a 77% pay increase plus the other benefits they are negotiating.
50% and still not enough? Damn how much do they demand?
50% in the end doesn’t add much to it, they work on collective agreements not like a salaried employee in your regular company
What about CEO who gets billions every year
I feel for them. Automation will crush their profession and jobs will be lost. I’m sorry for them but I don’t see how they will prevail. It’s just the sign of the times.
Making 17k more than me and theyre still whining
50% up is really good
The AI problem is a big issue and they are right to protect their way of life.
Yet for every 10 ports that refuse AI, 1 will take it in, becoming the cheapest to operate and the other 10 ports will not be able to compete with it.
We are seeing the end of mankind
Automation isn't the same as Ai ;)
They tucker jyobs
Ironically almost all of the anti-union people on this page love police unions when they come out in full support of the latest klller cop...
this is just a start, the lack and poor distribution of wealth will lead to more and more strikes at every country and field
Take workers from South Asia if they don't want to work.
Everyone is a key worker until they ask for more money and guarantees on conditions
this guy who they were asking was a prime example the muricans' darkness and how much they are behind the world already