The Many Pros & One Major Con of AlpenFury - Canada's Wonderland's New-For-2025 Coaster
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- Canada's Wonderland unveiled the amazing AlpenFury this week, their new for 2025 coaster that ties the North American inversion record with 9. But was it the right choice, especially considering how crowded this park gets?
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Disneyland: we have four different mountain rides in one park!
Canadas Wonderland: that’s cute. We have four different rides in one mountain
*Three
@@ChuckE.CheesesIllinois Vortex, Thunder Run, Wonder Mountain’s Guardian, and now this. Unless you meant Disneyland only has three, but that’s a matter of branding. Tiana’s was built as a mountain ride, along with Space, Big Thunder, and the Matterhorn
@@TigerRogersOfficial was referring to Disney, Tiana's is just a fucking Molehill now
@@ChuckE.CheesesIllinois 😭
@@TigerRogersOfficialcome to think of it why is it called space mountain it’s not in a mountain it’s in well… space
Pro: Looks like an awesome ride throughout!
Con: Only con is that it didn’t require Flight Deck to be removed.
@@triplej755 or whatever that other Zamperla flying coaster was…
@@Mini_V4time warp is uncomfortable in a charming way
@@Mini_V4how can we make fun of something if it gets removed
@@leduckduck It’s getting removed?
@@Mini_V4 no
Canada's Wonderland confirmed in Facebook today that it won't have comfort collars
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So it will have uncomfortable collars then? 😮
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@@TheTomTracey honestly the shin guards are worse than the comfort collars
Meet the volcano replacement… at Canada’s wonderland
Coaster Studios reference 😱 lol
This is like a huge gut punch to Kings Dominion fans who thought they were gonna get something like this next year!
@@TylerPCoyne I will be able to ride both next year and they both look insane really excited my home park getting a volcano replacement and KD getting a launched B&M wing
@@TylerPCoyneyeah because getting 2 coasters to replace volcano when you already have a giga and RMC isn’t good enough how terrible
@@JJJJ-he8bzI might love i305 but you know most of the world doesn’t. So I wouldn’t say anyone is envious of kings dominion.
“King’s dominion found it’s Volcano Replacement, It’s Going to Canada!” - Taylor of Coaster Studios
Quote of the year
@@Fury325FanWas hilarious when he said it but as a comedy conniseur the joke was taken from his own comment section from earlier video they uploaded.
Well KD is literally getting a replacement coaster in the plot of Volcano next year so I don’t really see what the joke is here.
@@wickedsickfunkyfreshroller2037they mean that this is a launch coaster that launches out of a mountain, that’s what volcano did at king’s dominion
Rapterra wouldn't fit in Canada's Wonderland anyways, so it made sense to put it in KD
Something to note: the animation shows that the trains don’t have the side plates, which many believe to be the issue with Premier Trains. If the actual trains are like that, not only will it offer a more open ride experience, but this will be the first time Premier does this since Sky Rocket at Kennywood.
For me, the con is why the hell is Time Warp still in this park.
I would demolish both that and Flight Deck and replace them with an RMC
I am surprised it hasnt been announced to be gone yet. Maybe thats coming
@@caffeinatedtrouble agreed, make minebuster and wilde beast an rmc, and remove flight deck and time warp.
@@tanweerazam5340 id take away those 2 shits and rmc wild beast, make a invert hyper bm coaster where those were removed
I haven't been on Behemoth yet this year, and only rode Leviathan once (after an absolute downpour where everyone left the park) and Yukon Striker once (a rainy May weekend). Capacity and time to get on the ride is a huge issue for the park, not because of ride ops, but just the crush of people there any given day.
Hopefully, as we add more top tier rides, that will thin the masses across the park
This ride looks awesome
I swear, Premeir hired a Planet Coaster player, taught them how to profile a realistic coaster and then had them design this. The way it weaves over through and around everything is so much like what someone would do in that game, AND I LOVE IT!
Im so glad you mentioned S&S because now I don’t feel alone! Immediately I thought this layout was very similar to S&S coasters with how many roll style inversions like how Maxx Force uses them
I'm glad it's premier and not s&s because at least premier coasters work
Cant wait for this to come to my homepark next year! Now we just need flightdeck and timewrap gone.
@@anthonydinardo345 flightdeck ahhh just the name hurts my neck and head lol
@@jeffsanta8478 Yeah, always get a headache when i ride it.
If they wanna give Flight Deck the FLY treatment, I'll be content. Time Warp, however, doesn't seem good enough to justify the operating costs.
@@stella.excite yeah, I agree with you, only thing is I don"t really mind timewarp but I can also see that being gone in the next 10~ish years.
Nah flight deck and time warp suck up guests where they could be waiting in other lines making them longer. In 2023 time warp often had 50 minute line ups and flight deck did too.
YES! This coaster looks so good, I'm really looking forward to it!
Track design looks cool.
Love the way it twists around itself
Video idea: best moments on my least favorite coasters
Buy Or sell: Lagoon on Farmington Utah will get a modern airtime filled coaster within the next 10 years due to realizing that that's the only coaster gap in their lineup.
To add to the concerns about the capacity: it's not just about the wait time, I'll bet there's also going to be chaos with the physical reality of the line. First-year coasters at Wonderland always massively overflow their stations, requiring a line to snake out onto the midway. Where is this line going to go for Alpenfury? The station is in a very critical location for circulation, and adjacent to three other low-capacity coasters (Fly, Thunder Run, and Vortex) and two low-capacity flat rides (Soaring Timbers and Klockwerks). The overflow line is going to be in the way regardless of which way it goes.
@@debestcanadian thats true, the station is kinda set there next to Thunder Run, no idea where the switchbacks will go
I'm impressed they managed make a coaster on that scale without having to remove anything. Looks like it'll be a great ride. Also looks like it'll be a nightmare line.
I’m becoming more and more convinced that I’m not actually an enthusiast because I seriously could not care less about ejector airtime. It’s just a consequence of physics I tolerate for its opposite force. lol.
@@kennydreadfuls861 lots of enthusiasts love bone crushing Gs, you're not alone
Love it. Hopefully we can get some more Canadianana for the queue theming. I love the theming of Yukon Strike.
Can Premier just license the seats from Zamperla lightning trains? I know they're having problems with the wheels and all, but the seats and restraints on those things are absolutely wonderful.
I feel like this is Canada's own Helix. Maybe not as good, but it's that kind of ride. Big long launch coaster with cool inversions
Cedar Fair bringing heat to their parks next year. I’m not sure if I’m more excited for this or the wing coaster coming to KD. Also, they should’ve had premier do TTD instead of bummy Zamperla who has no other major thrill coasters.
Canada’s Wonderland bout to have 5 good coasters 🗣️🗣️ they’ll be ahead of Energylandia!
Great video! Sounds very good despite the low capacity. Maybe after year 1 of being open it wont be too bad of a wait. I enjoyed watching this!
This is my home park and I go here pretty often as my son has autism and loves Rollercoaster and to me behemoth and leviathan are really fun coasters but not really to scary, yukon is scary and that first drop is insane but the entire ride is pretty good I personally think it's underrated and I also think from my experience riding them once a week that it is more intense then the other two big coasters it confuses me how people always put yukon third under behemoth and leviathan. Don't get me wrong I love those 2 coasters as well but to me yukon is the most intense coaster at the park and it doesn't even make sense how people place it third that drop always gets me a bit nervous even though I have been on it so many times with the other 2 big boys I never get that I just know I'm in for a fun fast ride. Yukon underatted IMO
I fully agree with you about Yukon always being third should be first etc.. this new ride might be no 1 at the park
definitely gonna be premier's best coaster especially since it wont have the discomfort collars
Hey sorry I’m a noob but how do you do the calculations for riders per hour? I’m curious about some other rides in the park and am willing to do it myself lol just don’t know how?
I just used the number on rcdb for full throttle since that has the same trains and almost the same ride time. Calculating it yourself is hard because you need to know their dispatch times
CW confirmed no comfort collars
Pros-it looks like an amazing ride with great pacing
Cons-it’s not a 350 foot tall zamperla volare
I was hoping for some height too
@@SalCiampa Park's already got two hypers and a giga, 150' is fine
That looks awesome! Canada's Wonderland needed this. It has a lot of coasters, but half of them are crap. This gives the park another elite ride.
"Premier Rides isn't really known for their airtime anyway"
*looks at Full Throttle*
What airtime does full throttle have
Real it doesn’t have any
Ejector off the "tophat" (that isnt one) straight into the brakes...stupid ride really
@@joshfreund6008 real the ride has no airtime
@@analexinthisworld i know some premier coasters have an airtime moment, like full throttle off the loop, or sky rocket 2s on the twisted drop, but they dont really put airtime in their rides. Sky rocket is the only one where they tried, also west coast racers has a couple weak moments aside from the high 5
It looks great! Might havw to book a trip to CW now lol
This is the new best ride 100 percent
Im happy you like out launch, buy or sell, alpenfury becomes a top 5 premire rides coaster in north America
Ride looks amazing. Ill be going there next year for sure
Wow, a video 2 days in a row!
that reverse cobra roll looks more like the 270 stall on untamed to me. either way, i think this ride looks incredible (even if it over does it on the rolls)
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It looks like a pretty good coaster but I can see why kings dominion fans are upset that Canada gets the volcano replacement instead of the mid B&M
Overall bias aside, the stats are great and the location is perfect. It should be a huge hit. My personal opinion is swayed because I’m not hype on anything Premier makes. The trains are incredibly uncomfortable due to the shin guards and how generally hard they are to maneuver. I’m also not impressed by inversion focused rides. I think that’s why I was meh on Steel Curtain. Some inversions are fine but when it’s an inversion marathon, I usually lose interest. It fills a big gap in CW’s lineup and I think a lot of people will love it, it’s just not something I’m personally excited by.
@@impracticallychristopher i get that too, thats why i compared it to maxx force's inversions and how im afraid they may ride the same way, kinda dull
It'd great that it's not a cookie cutter layout and really takes advantage of the landscape. Looks great. Awesome elements. Another unique flagship addition to my home park. I hope the trains are good. I wish they looked a little slicker. The trains design doesn't really seem to do well with the overall look and feel of the ride.
It'd be cool if they tried updating their trains for this ride like zamperla with trying to roll out their new lightning trains on tt2
Yo airtime ! Just did my third trip to Canadas wonderland this Summer Bought a season pass this year for the first time and wanted to get the most out of the park,
Love the content tho didnt know people took roller coasters so seriously.
Learned a great HACK for the big 3 as well. any questions let me know!
This ride would've been PERFECT at Kings Dominion.
This coaster looks awesome, but the trains suck a lot. Feels like there should have been a reimagination of the premier trains for this coaster instead of the typical trains they use
The park's marketing person confirmed that it will not have comfort collars! We can all rejoice!
Something you missed: Cedar fair merged with six flags, going under the name Six flags now, this is a more six flags esc ride.
The Six Flags park is probably not going to open with Falcons flight until 2028 because falcon flight will be done by then but not the park
You mentioned Mack and I think this would have been a better choice of manufacturer on the grounds of both (1) capacity and (2) rider comfort (those Sky Rocket trains are *small*)
Been confirmed by the park that it has the lap bars not comfort collars
What is the difference? I can only ride stuff where I don't feel like I'm falling, it's too scary lol
The first big project, and the first Cedar Fair project with Premier!
the name fits there little lore thing that goes with it
I just hope it doesn't have the same problems that Volcano: The Blast Coaster at Kings Dominion had. I know it's a completely different coaster model built by a different manufacturer, but it's still concerning what happened to a "volcano launching" coaster at one former Paramount park could happen to another "volcano launching" coaster at one of its sister parks.
Nah. Two completely different launch systems and train orientation on the track. The scenery fixtures around the ride have no impact on the ride itself. Volcano in open air is having the same issues it had.
What happend to volcano? . I keep seeing people say it's simular.. but did it have problems.?.. is it around anymore?
@@PaulC112 It had massive problems. It was the first launched coaster Intamin ever made and the first inverted launched coaster. The original launch failed to consistently get the trains over the top. They kept tweaking it over time, adding more launches, but it was unreliable and the suspended trains added more demand on the motors than the traditional over the track trains used by Premier.
This was honestly, and frustratingly, what should have replaced Volcano at Kings Dominion. The special effects may have issues but a modern multi-launch is very reliable. Volcano was a prototype ride that never took off in the industry.
I mean, I expect Premier knows how to do a launch without being a maintenance headache at this point, it's almost the only thing they sell.
Ooo! Seems like everyone's (CS, ETR, AT, etc.) problem are the trains, capacity, and repetitiveness, I'm wondering how it will turn out... 😀 I have not been to CW, but I agree with you thinking it will be #3 in the park! 😊
I've done some math and capacity is an issue but not as bad as I expected. 80 second dispatches will be 810 riders an hour, these days Behemoth is sending out 25-30 trains an hour which is 800-960
At least until one of the trains has a maintenance issue 😬
@@torontocards.3326 no reason behemoth should have 2+ minute dispatches, jeez
@@AirtimeThrills It's rare to see it not stack these days
With all the inversion over the pathways, there is either going to be ugly netting or zero loose article policy with lockers
No doubt. Im gonna guess netting. They have avoided the bad loose article policies at that park
I wish it would have a separate unload and load station to make more capacity possible.
2 Trains means something very important. NO mid course braking section. I would much rather have a coaster that does not have a mid run brake.
Grace peacock, director of communications for Wonderland already confirmed lap bar only. Also, since the merger with six flags, rumours are wonderland will eventually start removing seat belts from current attractions.
This is gonna be dope, It reminds me of storm runner but better! I’m just worried about how the effects are gonna play out though
I doubt this will be as good as Storm Runner. Great ride but come on, no modern coaster will beat an old school Intamin.
@@wickedsickfunkyfreshroller2037 I understand the sentiment and the hydraulic launch, But these coasters imo are better in the fact that they have a more complete layout and are more accessible, As an enthusiast with a prosthetic eye its kind of painful to go on rides that accelerate that quickly without a tad bit of fear but I still appreciate your point
@@Mini_V4 that's fair but I like my coasters as intense as possible and I haven't seen anyone in the past 15 years match 90s B&M or early 2000s Intamin
@@wickedsickfunkyfreshroller2037 Understandable, I would like that idea more if was able to ride some of those really intense rides, but I’m glad other enthusiasts enjoy them also
I never wanted to go to wonderland it just seemed like a few fancy b and ms. Now I can’t wait to go
This roller coaster is gonna be a beast ❤
Video idea: if you could bring back 1 roller coaster from any point in a parks history using the Six Flags parks and the Cedar Fair parks
Why do the two 9-inversion rollercoasters in north america have such wacky inversions?
My guess is conservation of motion.
They build the inversions into the turns to maintain speed. Instead of losing speed on an inversion followed by a turn, it's built into one motion. With those big sweeping drops out of a lot of these, it's probably even gaining speed sometimes. Also, old school inversions like corkscrews and vertical loops burn up kinetic energy faster than something like an inline twist.
This is crazy
Kings island for a vortex inspired theme launch coaster next PLEASEEE!
I know they said 2 trains but there's absolutely no way they don't buy a third because if they go into an opening year with just 2 operating trains, that is so extremely risky
Yeah having a 3rd in reserve makes sense
So, maybe we should call it the treble cleft roll?
I really hope we're right about the lack of comfort collars. The seats on Premiers new coasters are not great--it's not just if you're bigger. I'm 5'4" and 150 pounds, granted my shoulders are wide, but Tempesto was sooo uncomfortable.
18 person train... more than a minute of ride time. If they get one train out every two minutes - and that's highballing it with Premier trains - capacity will be around, what, 500 an hour?
800 is theoretical so all the numbers i posted are actually probably a bit lower
@@AirtimeThrills 800 is theoretically possible, but only if the staff work their asses off all the time and no people of other-than-perfectly-average-build ride. Expect to queue several hours for this. Low capacity wonders galore.
This looks like it could be the best Premier Rides coaster ever, sorry Mr. Freeze, you just got leapfrogged.
It's not too late for them to add another car to the trains or even add another train
I still think a 3rd train would be completely pointless
@@AirtimeThrills With the amount of time it's going to take for people to squeeze in and out of these Premier trains, I guess you're right 😄
KD fans need to stop whining you got 2 coasters within two years on top of having a giga and RMC go sit down somewhere.
Honestly Rapterra could easily be better than this. Esp if its like Thunderbird
@@AirtimeThrills Not a chance
Premier is a surprising choice for me
next rmc wilde beast or mine buster, or replace flight deck and time warp with a compact high capacity coaster.
We've already stopped going to CW because of the brutal lines. This is only going to add to that :(
I hate comfort collars on Premier Rides coasters. This looks like an epic addition, but too bad they forgot to perform subtraction on Time Warp.
That’s the same element found on untamed
What are the best premier coasters?
Guys, so I was just on rcdb, Swiss toboggan at little amerricka isn’t the only one left in operation 😭😭😭
One just opened up last year in 2023 called space moon😭😭
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I have a couple issues but saying them will make me look like a whiny enthusiast. I feel like if every inversion is some sort of roll, the layout is going to feel very repetitive. But my biggest disappointment is that with the out and back layout, they set themselves up PERFECTLY to use the full throttle double sided track loop but they didn’t. Again, still looks like a great ride, just missing more possitives and negatives
I get the repetitiveness argument but i didnt get that vibe from just watching it
“9 inversions is the main selling point”
Looks at the smiler
3:37 you have one right before the breakrun
yeah you got one
I dont understand why a 4 car train isnt an option
I would be down for that
just wandering does this ride really shoot out flames when you shoot out from the mountian?
I am guessing yes since you can see it on the trailer and on the POV
It sounds like they are going to make this happen. Still in the planning stages.
I’m not sure about the colour scheme to be honest it looks a bit washed out almost
How is Premier & RMC so bad at trains and restraints? It might have taken them a couple of decades but at least Intamin finally figured it out.
I actually like RMC. Premier though, i guess they wanted to save space
I only wish this newer addition was going to be the tallest/highest and fastest first drop in the world type of coaster which would break all records. While this looks fun, I prefer coasters that are faster, have more airtime, and lots of crazy drops. This one has too many inversions and too quick of a ride.
If it has comfort collars it'll be a 5/10 at best. Comfort collars ruin rides. I found Icebreaker literally unrideable with them as it was painful and bruised me. I also hate hanging into them on Tigris. The trains are bad enough without them! I reeeeeeally hope no comfort collars!
In the render it has lap bars.
Confirmed by CW it does not. 🎉
Dive loop + side winder = dive winder
Buy or Sell: Rapterra will be the best wing coaster in the country.
I doubt it will open in 2025 but it looks like a very good ride.
This is a Cedar Fair park, they usually open rides with the park. Why wouldn’t it open in 2025?
What if the fire is from the dragon from the dark ride coaster
Thats one way to spin the story
What disappointed me was the track should have been blue and red just like the trailer
No shot half throttle has a similar amount of prime ride time as this
Its like 3 seconds different, remember it stops mid ride and launches backwards
It feels to illegal to be this early to a video not mad about it tho
what are comfort collars?
Theyre floppy vests that some Premier coasters have. I show them in one of my scene on the video where the guy is climbing out of the car and theyre draped all over him
I wish there was more than a tiny bit of airtime
Yeah but then they would have sacrificed inversions, i just wonder why they didnt just go for the 10
Really does a Saudi rollercoaster that 99% of people won't ever ride even count?
I would guess yes it does
Looks amazing...too bad my criminal record will not let me enter canada without a special permit that i cant get.
Who among us
@@AirtimeThrills me unfortunately