Hey James, if the limiter caps have been removed from carb then those recommended settings labeled on the saw will put it on the lean side but you'll know once you tune it in the wood... I used chunks of old inner tubes I have laying around and double them up for press & vac testing
I once had an Echo (can't remember the model but 18" guide bar) lock up straight from the supplier - it didn't do one tank! There was quite a few long looks and muttering when I took it back. They took it under warrantee after humming and harring and then rebuilt it rather than give me a new one - it worked fine and earnt its money but I wouldn't take that for an answer these days! Flipping money I spent with them over the years too.
Idle seemed high, not sure if that's carburetor adjustment or it's sucking some air. I would be surprised if tape worked reliably enough. I buy sheets of A4 rubber and cut them either as wedges to slide down between or like gaskets were I strip and reassemble both sides. And then use the husqvarna adaptors that replace the spark plug. Anglo American oil are pretty close to me in Dorset.
Thanks for continuing to comment. It was slightly high, then I gave it a bit more low and it was ok. I've ordered some 3mm rubber sheet, thanks for that. Yeah Anglo American are great guys.
What I do is just take the exhaust gasket and trace it on a piece of aluminum and same with the intake. You also can cut a small piece of rubber to sandwich between the intake and exhaust ports
What about piston ring end gaps? If the gap is undersize, the ring will touch ends, try to expand and catch the exhaust port. Just bought a brush cutter 52cc, I know a cheep engine. It lasted 20 minutes running and died, low compression. Shop says its my fault but I've been running 2T engines for years. So its probably the rings.
Yeah it was a bit high which is normal without a bar and chain, though I did adjust it a bit richer on the low to slow it down. We're very close to a 500i now. Just choosing a vendor and seeing if anyone wants any publicity!
Definitely sounds snappy and strong. Your right it certainly doesn't sound like it has the size of air leak that would kill a saw in 3 tanks. Maybe i was wrong. If the pressure vac come back good then im leaning towards accidental straight gassing. Maybe they put the aspen 4stroke stuff in there instead of the 2stroke? I dont think they dye the 2stroke mix so it would be easy to mistake the two. In terms of what the blank the saw off for the test. I just use two triangular bits of rubber, clamped on by the carb and muffler. Doesnt work for strato saws though.
No need for a pressure/vac check. If it idles, revs and tops out consistent it is typically fine. Fuel was the cause for failure. Exhaust side damage only, indication of improper mix. Aftermarket fuel mixtures are famous for destroying Stihl saws. Only other cause could be that someone tampered with the screws but even then it is hard to imagine that amount of scouring in that location to be solely a bad carb tune.
Another note- compression tests on 2 cycle engines are typically useless and misleading. Just hold the saw by the pull rope next time, takes 2 seconds and tells you more than a pressure gauge ever will.
They way it runs. And how damaged the original slug and jug were, makes me think, previous owner, straight gassed it and just sold it on, unscrupulous, but not unheard of. Youl have to test it in log aye 🤗
Yea I know what you mean but considering how clean the saw was suggesting someone had in fact just rebuilt it like they said they did. Also if it was scored up anywhere near that bad would it get through 3 tanks? I don't really know.
@@BigAlsWorksaws Yeah I'm with ya there on the 3 tanks, if the current owner used good fuel / mix how could it end up so bad after 3 tanks, if not bad to start with. Anytime big money is in a saw sale. A pic of the exh / piston isn't too much to ask. Pour caveat emptor. I'm hoping this one turns out good.
Glad the 500i will be coming soon, it will be good to hear who offered you deals.
I'm very excited about it. Am in discussion with your local saw shop, be great to build a relationship with them.
Hey James, if the limiter caps have been removed from carb then those recommended settings labeled on the saw will put it on the lean side but you'll know once you tune it in the wood...
I used chunks of old inner tubes I have laying around and double them up for press & vac testing
Thanks dude, really appreciate your continued commenting. Limiter caps are still there..
@@walkerscountrylife came here to ask same thing.
@@marcustraber thanks for your view and your comment... and thinking!
I once had an Echo (can't remember the model but 18" guide bar) lock up straight from the supplier - it didn't do one tank! There was quite a few long looks and muttering when I took it back. They took it under warrantee after humming and harring and then rebuilt it rather than give me a new one - it worked fine and earnt its money but I wouldn't take that for an answer these days! Flipping money I spent with them over the years too.
Thanks for your view and comment. That's crazy!
Idle seemed high, not sure if that's carburetor adjustment or it's sucking some air.
I would be surprised if tape worked reliably enough.
I buy sheets of A4 rubber and cut them either as wedges to slide down between or like gaskets were I strip and reassemble both sides. And then use the husqvarna adaptors that replace the spark plug.
Anglo American oil are pretty close to me in Dorset.
Thanks for continuing to comment. It was slightly high, then I gave it a bit more low and it was ok. I've ordered some 3mm rubber sheet, thanks for that.
Yeah Anglo American are great guys.
What I do is just take the exhaust gasket and trace it on a piece of aluminum and same with the intake. You also can cut a small piece of rubber to sandwich between the intake and exhaust ports
Those are great tips, thank you!
What about piston ring end gaps?
If the gap is undersize, the ring will touch ends, try to expand and catch the exhaust port.
Just bought a brush cutter 52cc, I know a cheep engine. It lasted 20 minutes running and died, low compression.
Shop says its my fault but I've been running 2T engines for years. So its probably the rings.
Great stuff !! Idle seems high imo . I can’t get away from thinking it’s had straight fuel in it ?? Very pleased to hear the 500i is closer 👍
Yeah it was a bit high which is normal without a bar and chain, though I did adjust it a bit richer on the low to slow it down. We're very close to a 500i now. Just choosing a vendor and seeing if anyone wants any publicity!
Definitely sounds snappy and strong. Your right it certainly doesn't sound like it has the size of air leak that would kill a saw in 3 tanks. Maybe i was wrong.
If the pressure vac come back good then im leaning towards accidental straight gassing. Maybe they put the aspen 4stroke stuff in there instead of the 2stroke? I dont think they dye the 2stroke mix so it would be easy to mistake the two.
In terms of what the blank the saw off for the test. I just use two triangular bits of rubber, clamped on by the carb and muffler. Doesnt work for strato saws though.
Thanks for continuing to comment 👍 yeah it's odd.
I keep wondering if it's accidental aspen 4 not aspen 2. It looked very dry in there.
No need for a pressure/vac check. If it idles, revs and tops out consistent it is typically fine. Fuel was the cause for failure. Exhaust side damage only, indication of improper mix. Aftermarket fuel mixtures are famous for destroying Stihl saws. Only other cause could be that someone tampered with the screws but even then it is hard to imagine that amount of scouring in that location to be solely a bad carb tune.
@@u-r-moron3938 thanks for the insightful comment! Got to agree tbh, the saw is still going strong.
Sounds great!!
Doesn't it!
Another note- compression tests on 2 cycle engines are typically useless and misleading. Just hold the saw by the pull rope next time, takes 2 seconds and tells you more than a pressure gauge ever will.
Ooooh you could get a bark box on that! Pretty sure there's a uk company that stocks them
Easy enough to make.. that's what I did on my 461.
@@walkerscountrylife will check it out if there's a video? Always prefer DIY 👍👍
@@tbruce-sawsandsplitting I didn't do a video but I can do one..
@@walkerscountrylife👍👍👍 would love that, definitely need some pointers on muffler mods/pipes
Did you do a barkbox video? Just got a 044 wouldn't mind doing a bark box for it.
That's snappy af that
👍🆙TB
It really is. Shocked me.
They way it runs. And how damaged the original slug and jug were, makes me think, previous owner, straight gassed it and just sold it on, unscrupulous, but not unheard of.
Youl have to test it in log aye 🤗
Yeah Im thinking the same mate. I'll get it in a log asap... after a pressure / vac test!!
Yea I know what you mean but considering how clean the saw was suggesting someone had in fact just rebuilt it like they said they did. Also if it was scored up anywhere near that bad would it get through 3 tanks? I don't really know.
@@BigAlsWorksaws Yeah I'm with ya there on the 3 tanks, if the current owner used good fuel / mix how could it end up so bad after 3 tanks, if not bad to start with.
Anytime big money is in a saw sale. A pic of the exh / piston isn't too much to ask.
Pour caveat emptor.
I'm hoping this one turns out good.
👍🆙JW
👍👍🆙DR
@@walkerscountrylife Good morning!