The Biggest Problem with Star Wars Unlimited - Will Set #2 Fix It?
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- Опубликовано: 21 мар 2024
- Alot of people have problems with the art style for Star Wars Unlimited - and while I have mixed feelings on it, I think Set #2 could be making some real improvements! What do you think?
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If this is the BIGGEST problem with Star Wars Unlimited we're in a good spot ; )
Agreed, it's not really a big deal. I've seen card games with worse artwork tbh
Exactly my first thought :)
☝️ I agree! This is such a nonsense problem 😅
There's only SO many ways to see Star Wars and if they had used the recycled ffg art it wouldn't have felt 100% all in from them. They made a VERY calculated choice for this and i applaud them!
All I know, Is I'm glad I have the complete LCG collection. The art in that is timeless.
For me the art is not cartonish... is comic styled... and there are lots of different styles in comics... and in some of them the character doesn't perfectly match the actors face (like in the han solo card). I think that they pretend to diverge from previous sw card games made by them to give it a distinctive look and say... hey, this is different!
But that's not Han Solo, that's Guybrush Threepwood 😂
It'd be kinda cool to have a pixelated, Monkey Island style Han Solo 😂
Artwork is subjective. The ships are my favorite pieces of artwork. My issue has been not getting any major pulls (Vader, Boba, Luke unit cards) and seeing their prices skyrocket online. I have bought 2 boxes, 1 prerelease box, and about 15 loose boosters. Chalk that up to bad luck, but I need those cards to make my constructed decks competitive. So I am just sticking to casual play for now until I can hopefully trade for some of those cards, or get some good pulls.
At first I really didn’t like the Han leader but now it’s grown on me. I love most of the art
I love the trooper running away in "straffing gunship"
I've seen so much star wars art on different games over the years, the fact that the are here is so diverse and they are open to different interpretations of the characters is seriously refreshing.
That Chewie is something else 😂
The SWU Jabba really looks like the poop emoji.
Probably intentional 😅
Jabba looks like soft serve ice cream. Haha.
Fighting a bad gas bubble or a hernia
Haha yeah. @MangoFett34
I would like the art to be more stylized, either more cartoony or classical.
I don't mind the art, but Imagine if they had done the art Clone Wars/Rebels style?
I enjoy the fresh take on the art vs the super clean artwork from destiny. But I get the hate too. Alternate art cards are sweet also!
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I’m overall pretty impressed with the art. The few pieces that didn’t land with me feels more like an amazing artist was assigned to make the wrong kind of art for their skill set.
I will say though I’m glad FFG went the route of making new art when they easily could have just pulled art from their other Star Wars games.
And yet in the fricking Unlimited they got a spot-on Han Solo standing next to Luke. Why not use that one?
Some of these illustrations are pure nighmare fuel :D
It's all very Hanna Barbera.
Honestly, having owned multiple ffg star wars products I value new art over reusing the same art over and over from over 10 years ago. It is still good art but has become a sort of visual cliche now. The comic style of unlimited is growing on me a little. I didn't like it at first but some cards look very good. I especially like the style they went with for the tie fighter family of cards.
Yes! The tie fighters are my favorite. Especially inferno four and the interceptor.
Dude that art style is sick, art is so subjective.
Fun Fact:
Mace Windu's lightsaber is upside down in his card art.
Now I have to go look! My gosh could you imagine if it was made using AI and this was how it was discovered?
The art is 90%+ good. It’s just a few cards that are bad. Chewbacca Leader is bad, I’m ok with Han but agree it’s not the best. Yoda isn’t great but the OP Yoda is great.
The thing holding me pack from playing is that I already play magic and one tcg is enough for me
Your wallet is talking 😂 I know the feeling but you can get in to it at the low end its not like a EDH deck or modern deck price
With all the missteps from hasbro and wizards I have been stepping away from magic (been playing since 97) and Star Wars unlimited fills the void nicely
Heck yeah.. Flesh and Blood and SWU hit the tcg tandem sweet spot for me. Wizards is beyond toxic at this point.
Art is great , unique and not recycled endlessly like in there other games.
I like the variety of art. Art is subjective. It’s like comics, it varies and has style. Come on open your minds. This game is a home run in my opinion
I like the artworks of generic troopers and smugglars and starships,some character specific ones do feel a bit off but I am really considering playing the game as I hear its a very fun and simple to learn game. I do hope they add more clone wars things eventually as I want to build a CIS deck with either dooku or grievous as my commander
It is a pretty good game if the biggest complaint is the art... 😂 (by the way, as someone who followed SWU since May 2023 announcement - you gradually grow on the art, so it is not that bad)
Personally I don't want to get into star wars unlimited, been burned by ffg a few too many times, the artwork overall doesn't help it but I do think there are some good ones, I personally like krennic, but I'm quite happy just looking from the sideline and letting other people buy the sets
I prefer the stylized art over photorealism, TBH. We've had that, or movie stills, for literal decades of Star Wars card games (and board games) at this point. The art is all unique and created individually for each specific card. I'm glad that we get art like you see on the Darksaber or Thrawn's Leader card instead of everything looking like it was taken directly from the movies or tv series with a filter thrown on.
I think the next set is at print and the one after that is going soon as well. Gonna be awhile if they wanna change the art
Great vid..thank you..very much!! Can you do a vid of how I can start playing? Am getting the starter pack today!! Thank you for all vids!!
This is modern art it will grow on you
I just played 6 games tonight with my buddy. We have been really enjoying the game. We have a history in mtg, but also played destiny for a few years.
I think this game has nailed the most important aspects of a tcg. Building decks is a lot of fun and intuitive, the distribution of good cards is spread out well across rarities, cracking packs is a lot of fun, and most importantly the gameplay keeps you engaged with the single action rules. Choosing what to lose as a resource can be agonizing and it’s possible to look multiple turns ahead, while trying to adapt to your opponents moves.
Overall, I agree I don’t like some of the art but there is a lot of great art too like you said. For us, the positive of the gameplay well outweighs the negatives.
Love the art. They picked a style that allows characters from the animated shows and movies to be portrayed alongside each other well imo. The fighters have some of my favorite art.
On the art point, it's not that they have a cartoon style, it's the fact that half the cards are cartoon and the other half are realistic. Pick one and use that don't swap between the two. As for the biggest problem. Probably the fact that Boba decks are tearing through tourneys right now. Top 8 decks in the release tournament in Europe were ALL Boba Command decks. Even in the top 16 there were only 4 non Boba decks. That is probably the main issue.
I’d rather this art than screen shots from the films
I wasn't gonna pick this up because of the art, and I just got HEAVILY invested into Disney Lorcana. The idea behind that was to gateway my wife into gaming, and she pulled an enchanted Hook the other day, and really loves opening the packs. It's a basic enough system that she can follow as a beginner.
I still have my WOTC Star Wars TCG, and I've dabbed in the DC/Marvel Vs system, but TCG's aren't my thing. I prefer mini war games.
But, I got the two player starter, grabbed two booster boxes, and pulled a showcase Palpatine. Crazy lucky since those are supposed to be 1 in 12 boxes, but now I'm hooked. I suck at playing it though. I've been playing online trying to get a hang of the Luke Starter deck, and I get SHREDDED by the Vader AI deck. It's been brutal.
I don't feel like the art is a problem with the game. Most TCGs have really varied artwork. Of course there's a couple that some people might not like, but that's kind of with every game. I used to play Pokemon TCG and there's a lot of really uncanny artwork, some where you might hardly be able to figure out what character you're looking at, some where the subject is literally a still shot of a clay model or crochet model. I think the diversity of art style is a good thing, because it makes the game feel more "large scale" and similar to other popular TCGs. The reason art like this works for TCGs is because if you don't like the Chewbacca from this set, there's gonna be another one in one of the other sets that comes out this year. I think the diversity is a good shake-up.
it helps that alot of the art gets better on the alt foil or hyperspace versions. i think it would be cool if future sets added different variants of foils or alt arts to and it would help people get an art that they do like if theyre that bothered by a specific card art. Personally none of the art bothers me too much and everyone is gonna interpret and have their own opinions so if theres only a couple cards that arent great im totally fine with it
Vanilla Leia leader looks awesome, love the style
I like most of the artwork, especially when it's in the style of the Darth Vader legendary card (3D/cartoonisch)
Eclectic. As the card pool and artist pool increases over time these sets may fall into an overall style of being considered eclectic. The card art and press releases early on did not make me want to even consider playing this game.
Looking back on Destiny and how the sets look as a whole reflect this eclectic style as well. Unless you have one or a very small group of artists working on a project there is bound to be this type of variety of styles. Destiny had some great original artwork as well as what I would consider film stills run through a simple image filter. The art director(s) may give direction to the artists to have their own take on a character, ship, scene, etc.
The artwork on-card, in real life, in my opinion is better than what I saw online initially.
#JambiTheSequel
The art has really grown on me. This game is so fun.
Just demoed it at pax east. I played empire. My opponent did play Han Solo but I didn’t notice it. Had a good time. Hope to play again.
As some have stated, the art does grow on you.
Was not a fan at first but liking it a little more and more with each game.
There are definitely some card art that's not necessarily "good," but I like that there are a few different styles portrayed. At first, it was questionable, but seeing more art styles, it has grown on me, and now I'm enjoying it more.
The #1 complaint is lack of card packs on the market
Really enjoying the game play. The back and forth aspect of the game is really satisfying. You must plot around what your opponents next move is going to be.
As far as the cost. It’s a CCG…
The art is great, sets it apart from everything else I hope they keep it permanently, I don't want realism or photos unless they are the chase cards. The best thing about this is it got the pokemon format where you can't have the cheap normal version of a card or you can splash out on a $100 bling card for your favourite deck (except vader)
They are being "wild" with it and allowing many different styles including some goofier ones. Early MTG was somewhat like this; check out classic cards by Phil Foglio for example. But more than that, it reminds me of the old Star Wars Galaxy cards, which had guest artist do all kinds of interpretations of the characters. Do I like it? More than I thought, though some cards are rather questionable! But I think that is the "theme". A lot of earlier SW games tried very hard reach "accuracy" with the setting; think of the tight army lists in Legion for example. This is "Unlimited". Want to have some Imperials in your Rebel deck? If you pay for it, sure! I'm sure we'll eventually see things like goofy-looking Han Solo fighting alongside a painterly-style hyper real Darth Revan. Is that cool? I think so! It's different. There are plenty of other SW games that strive for that immersion factor. This isn't that! This is kind of a celebration of a lot of different views of SW, all throwing down against each other.
I’m just glad they started with a lot of the og characters. I think a big problem with Destiny’s release was the starters and many of the first set focusing in the sequels. The og characters came in way too late. The demographic that would have bought into it weren’t fans of the sequels.
I actually like the art; it's so varied and the showcases have the more realistic art anyways
I think they just had a varied pool of artists with very different interpretations of some of these characters, and very different styles, and that's fine. MTG has many many artists and the art from one card to the next can vary wildly, but it's mostly ignored because, these characters have only ever existed in the context of mtg, there was no magic tv show or movie that any of the art would be derivative of. Honestly most of the art is fine, and some of it is very very good, and that's the case with every other tcg.
The art has looked pretty rad to me. I like the relatively cohesive style. Mtg has great art, but they don't care about lots of different styles
If you ever read the comic book series Star Wars Underworld the style reminds me a lot of that.
I'll probably wait until the prequel era just because that's my favorite era
99% of the art is perfection.
Like in the Pokemon TCG, all the artists have slightly different takes on the characters. I like the different styles with the characters. The flavor is great 🔥
My biggest problem is that it is just not much fun. There needed to be a mechanic of not attacking bases while active units are in an arena for it to be fun. Just spamming the field with units and ignoring all other units to smash a base is tedious and not fun.
My number one complaint is the foiling. They should at least make Hyperspace foil and Showcase foil have texture. Just look at One Piece, DBS, Pokemon, etc. They look amazing. The foil they're using right now looks like foiling from stickers. I thought they will change it tho. 😢
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As much as i'd love to get into this game (it does look really interesting!)
My biggest issue is there are just too many card based games in my collection I'm keeping up on. Between trying to keel up with Hero Realms, Summoner Wars 2nd Edition, and Marvel Champions i just cannot justify another card game.
My 65 year old father and I play this and we are having a blast! My father and both despise the sequel trilogy, but we like how the game plays. So we will keep playing. We are both optimistic the art will improve.
Art styles is ok for me, my problem is how they treat the alternate rariry. Legendarys unless are foil feel less exicting. Hiperspace foil is ok but should not be the main chase, those are more like secondary. We need new full altarnate foil arts for legendarys and rares that makes them more meaningfull.
LOVING the game. Cannot wait for what's to come in the future!!
Art is subjective. I actually find the grotesque moments in the illustrations to be charming in their own right.
I have been playing thr game with my son and we both really enjoy the game. I agree that some of the art is very bad, but overall the art is good. I think people are hyper focusing on the negative, rather than what is good about the game.
Ah, good old Peewee Herman.
I intend to give the SWU a little more time before purchasing. Wanna make sure FFG will keep the live support for this one.
Sure, some of the art is a little meh, but at the end of the day, it's all better than I can do. I'm nervous after going full tilt into Destiny, but I'm keen to dive into this because, if we don't back it, it'll definitely fail.
For me, this game just seems like MtG and I was hoping for something deeper. It didn't need to go as deep as Decipher's CCG, but I wanted something more than what this game is. (In full candor, I haven't played MtG since like Fallen Empires, so that is what I am using as for reference.)
The biggest problem in my area is all Unlimited cards are sold out.
The art has grown on me, but there are still a few examples (as you highlighted) that look truly horrendous. Hopefully they tighten up the art direction as the game progresses!
This really is just a video for video sake! The artwork and overall look of the cards is top notch.
I've only played one game, but it was fun. I can't wait to play more. TCGs are total pitfalls! I have bought 2 starter sets and 3 seals booster boxes! The art is great! I do have an issue with those 3 cards, but it's getting less and less every time I see them. Looking forward to set 2 though! The sequels were ok, I don't hate them, but they are not my favorite. The Mando and Asoka stuff thought will be super cool! I wonder if we'll see stuff from The Acolyte and The High Republic in set 3 or 4 or 5. The Nihil could be a really cool villainy aspect units and leaders.
I was a no go on this game for both reasons you mentioned - burned by FFG on half a dozen games and HATE some of the art.
I played a demo night and said “wow. The game is fun, period.” Decided to attend a draft or two just to play with friends.
At the draft I realized how deep the gameplay was. I bought a box.
After opening the box I started building decks. Needed more cards.
Here I am, four boxes in and totally in love with the game.
You’ll get past the art you don’t like. 😂
If the art is the biggest issue then i think we are fine. The game plays well, its enjoyable, and the support we have been promised is great. Yeah some of the art is odd, but no different to MTG or Pokemon with some odd art choices.
And to be fair. I look past the art when playing. I think the art would be more of an issue for collectors
Yes, this 😊
There are two things that has to happen for me to consider Star Wars Unlimited. 1 - the art has to get better. Complete trash right now. 2 - After year 3 I will see if the game is still alive and stable. Not getting burned by FFG again.
I've been noticing this a lot with the merchandise in the parks. They're going with more cartoon-y representations of the characters. They also seem kind of averse to the original classic Star Wars logo, opting instead for this generic hand-written-looking font that just doesn't say Star Wars at all. Combine that with how Disney's Star Wars brand ID that runs before their shows features nothing but droids and masked characters and it's pretty obvious they're trying to avoid the likeness of any actual actor.
Honestly, i like the look of the cards. There's a few that really suck, though. (Leader chewbacca what happened?)
The art was kind of the biggest problem for me, so didn't get too excited until closer to release. As I saw the gameplay more, I was able to put aside my issues with the art and jump in. I'm glad I did. The game is fun, and most of the art I didn't like actually looks okay in real life on the cards. There's still a few things I don't like, but not as bad as it was just seeing preview images online. I'm viewing this as like MTG's Alpha/Beta sets. A lot of the art from the early MTG sets didn't age well. Some of the art has become iconic, but a lot of it just isn't really that good. However, the game was still a hit and has grown to what it is today. While I don't expect SWU to take over MTG ever, my thought is that it will take a similar path and these earlier sets will be looked at a bit differently as time goes on.
I like it overall, it's different and fun
My biggest problem: I can’t buy a box! I’m stuck with just the starter set, and I can’t even spend money on the game. Hopefully they’ll handle other sets better!
It’s looking good
Nice!
I heard Harrison Ford did not allow his likeness. Yeah besides a few cards a lot of the art is great. I love playing the game
They're staying away from everyone's exact likeness in order to not have to pay royalties to any actor
Regarding art: i think its the inconsistency in the art direction that annoys me, not the actual artwork of a specific card (although Solo and Chewie do look awful :p )
As a comic book reader, I'm totally fine with the art direction. Every artist is going to have a slightly different take on a character. Some are photorealistic, some are cartoony, some are more stylized in other ways. It's art. Embrace the diversity of styles. You may hate some, you may love some.
The art definitely pushes me further away from diving in. Painful looking
TCG player base is far bigger than LCG's. Me and my buddies don't know about Destiny. And even if we do we won't probably care. We're big MTG casual players and collectors since the 90s and decided to shift to FAB. But since we felt FAB is more focused on competitive players, we kept looking. We're torn between Altered and SWU but eventually went with SWU since we prefer the combat style of play.
Art? What art?! True TCG player would prefer the 'ugly' artist proof arts over the digitally printed art, everytime!
Star Wars Detours art style? 😳
I'm playing Chewie not framing the art.
I like the art
I was bothered by the art initially when the game was announced, but has since grown on me and I like a lot of it. Chewbacca (leader) and Jabba are terrible in my opinion though. I don't see those two growing on me.
Here's my theory - I think there's some signals that the designers are OG Star Wars fans, and they like to sneak in some references for other OG fans. So like hints towards Han shooting first, Wedge's subtitle is more a reference to his original canon storyline, and Han's art seems referential to the Holiday Special. Personally I can appreciate the goofy looking cartoon art if I frame it that way.
The art is great. The ones I disliked are growing on me fast
The only couple complaints i have is Han.....just straight up Han lmao
yeah i'm 50/50 on the art work, Han Solo looks bad to me, but Grand Admiral Thrawn looks great
I don't know. This is close enough to MTG. I think they will get a good following.
The art might be more "Disney-like" overall, yes. But I don't really care. The art was better overall in SW Destiny for sure. The game is super fun/cool. That's what really matters, to me at least. And I don't get that whole "burned by FFG" argument. I own so many of their games and yes, some have been completed/finished, but so what? It doesn't prevent me from still playing them. It seems that all games, card games especially, should go on forever like Magic... why?
I didn't like the art at first but then heard they have over 1000 commissioned artists and it's all original art. Knowing that its all original art helped the fact that some of it isn't great to me. Also, the Han Showcase is awesome, but agreed the regular leader card is crazy bad.
I would say 90% of the art is really good. There are definitely a bunch of cards that are horrendous, though, and I think you hit them both; Han Solo and Leader Chewy. Just... no. and dont get me wrong, the artists of both are talented and have some great pieces but these 2 just shouldn't have made the cut.
Jabba doesn't bother me as much as others, its not great but it doesn't make me cringe.
The Star Desteoyers, in particular, have been great art.
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