I had a feeling the first side to get a "+1 marble per minute" would win it. I'm not a statistician, but it seems to me that would be the determining factor in most games like this.
It's a balance between that and the luck of the marbles. It's still possible for the player with less +marbles per minute to get one very lucky high number that will decide the game, although I suspect with the marble setup I have in this one that the +marbles per minute is stronger than it should be
@@lostmarbles3d That's generally a thing when dealing with progressing economies. For example in a strategy game a player will get the upper hand when having +8% more economy (which is approximately what a roll of +1 marble/min is), unless they are rushed before they can capitalize on the boosted economy. If you want to minimize the risk of excessive economy growth, you can try to make higher levels of economy cost more than the levels before. Additionally increase the probability to roll an economy boost. This should lower the variance. Might speed up the fight tremendously tho.
@@mikatto2979 I'm a bit too lazy to implement a good way to differentiate the escalating costs between players haha, but now that I think about it, it shouldn't be too difficult. The other way to balance it better is to increase the cost / opportunity cost of selecting that upgrade, so that the player is behind in combat for a while before they get their return on investment. I think the balance in weapon territory war 5 (on my main channel) handled this a bit better. Might also just remove it entirely
Normally in this type of video almost nothing happens until late in the game, which makes you want to skip the first 70% of the video to get to the action. Here the early game actually mattered with significant stuff happening early on that keeps you interested from the start. Great work!
Mothership go BOOM! The explosion was fantastic! Having the altitude lines was very helpful too. Music choice was top notch, especially the ending one.🤩
that was such a solid push back from green there in the end. quite the epic fight. did put my money on the wring horse.... again though but hey. at this point its just funny to me.
@@lostmarbles3d They help a bit with understanding where ships are, but I feel they take away from the aesthetics of the space battle (good example at 7:45) it starts looking like a diorama of a space battle rather than an actual space battle.
Incredible video, loved the different behavior between classes of ships. It's been a long wait for a new space war and with all the changes it was totally worth it!
Green fought a good fight, I was hopeful for the epic comeback. If that battleship roll was + however marbles/minute instead, that would have been epic.
Small ships: Fighter - Low damage, low hp Bomber - Twin high damage attack, can only hit large ships Medium ships: Gunship - Has a rapid fire laser gun on all sides, each can shoot a different target, good when surrounded Shield - Has a large shield that blocks all projectiles hitting it, has many hit points Missile - Similar to bomber, but can also target medium size ships. Fires 5 homing missiles. Large ships: Frigate - Forward railgun that pierces and deals high damage, also has several turrets on sides and top Battleship - Very high hit points, has a triple plasma cannon in front (can only target large ships), and also many laser turrets on sides Carrier - High hit points, has several laser turrets on all sides, spawns fighters and bombers periodically
I like the action, but I couldn't keep track of the marbles after a few minuts, it's too chaotic. The Simulation itself was very entertaining tho, but I also always enjoy seeing numbers go up
add more ships please, make them cloak would be good, try to have some be speedy, maybe make some glass cannons, or some with great armor but sucky guns, i'd like variety
Although I do think that +1 marble per minute wasn’t a bad idea in concept, it definitely makes it extremely unfair at a certain point and I think it should just be a passive increase instead
It's a bit hard to see, but there is also a circle there, maybe just a few pixels sticking out above the trigger. The colour selection makes it additionally difficult to see. Will fix it in the next one!
Judging by the views it's getting it might be a while between all the trench wars, but I do intend to make more! Still a lot of things that I want to fix here
@lostmarbles3d is it not performing as well? That is a shame :( The graphics are looking amazing. For fixes I think the main thing is pace and time. It's space, I think it would feel nicer, and would allow us to watch more stuff if everything was slower paced and further apart. Idea I had is that the spanners start close together so we can see the dogfights of fighters, but they travel away from each other so that by the end, battleships and carriers are fighting over longer distances and we may barely even be able to see fighters apart from when they explode. Second, I would expand the health differences, I don't think even 30 fighters should be able to take down a battleship, but the large weapons should do more damage. I might also change the visuals for different weapons, it became hard to tell what was shooting what, perhaps different brightness shades of colour, or even different colours all together. Red for missiles, green for beam lasers etc. Hopefully this video starts to perform better because I think it has far more potential than thr marble trenches or kingdoms. Ps. I would love to see a return to the concept of battleships fighting with marbles inside each ship. There is so much room to add and play around with the concept and I think it could look amazing! Anyway, great work and can't wait till the next one :)
@@Axis_._ reading your comment reminds me, originally I was planning to make a 3D version of the space battle on my main channel, maybe it's time to do that! The difference would be that each player just starts with some ship. Maybe have different ship types to make it interesting. Thank you for the feedback and your support :)
Honestly this felt like a real downgrade compared to your last Space Wars. No longee where the Cockpit views No longer was the wave deployments The ships dont even come out from the mothership anymore either. That +1 Marble was a very clear "okay whoever gets it win" modifier And i do appreciate the Height thing but with how the ships themselves not really doing the crazy dog fighting like they used to more so moving like army men figures instead or models. Eh. It just doesnt feel all that great sadly with all the new affects too. Great video nevertheless but yeah I also was noticing that some of the modifers and counts where wrong too For example early on Blue gets a 4X modification on a Marble then lands on a +20. What should be accounted for first? Because should the +20 be added first for the original count of 1. Making it 20 then the 4x modifier? Making it 80? Or is it 1 by the 4x modifer plus 20 for just. 24?
It's just a project I made in Unity, only on my PC at the moment. I do have vague plans to make some of my videos/games downloadable, but I haven't had the time
I had a feeling the first side to get a "+1 marble per minute" would win it. I'm not a statistician, but it seems to me that would be the determining factor in most games like this.
It's a balance between that and the luck of the marbles. It's still possible for the player with less +marbles per minute to get one very lucky high number that will decide the game, although I suspect with the marble setup I have in this one that the +marbles per minute is stronger than it should be
@@lostmarbles3d That's generally a thing when dealing with progressing economies. For example in a strategy game a player will get the upper hand when having +8% more economy (which is approximately what a roll of +1 marble/min is), unless they are rushed before they can capitalize on the boosted economy.
If you want to minimize the risk of excessive economy growth, you can try to make higher levels of economy cost more than the levels before. Additionally increase the probability to roll an economy boost. This should lower the variance. Might speed up the fight tremendously tho.
@@mikatto2979 I'm a bit too lazy to implement a good way to differentiate the escalating costs between players haha, but now that I think about it, it shouldn't be too difficult.
The other way to balance it better is to increase the cost / opportunity cost of selecting that upgrade, so that the player is behind in combat for a while before they get their return on investment. I think the balance in weapon territory war 5 (on my main channel) handled this a bit better.
Might also just remove it entirely
@@lostmarbles3d You could have something like every 10% capital health lost = +1 marble per min
To be fair, blue had already nearly won by then, it was just a matter of getting ONE more lucky push.
This series only need 2 things: a greater distance between the mothership and a repair tool for herself
Normally in this type of video almost nothing happens until late in the game, which makes you want to skip the first 70% of the video to get to the action.
Here the early game actually mattered with significant stuff happening early on that keeps you interested from the start. Great work!
Mothership go BOOM!
The explosion was fantastic! Having the altitude lines was very helpful too. Music choice was top notch, especially the ending one.🤩
that was such a solid push back from green there in the end. quite the epic fight. did put my money on the wring horse.... again though but hey. at this point its just funny to me.
I like that both teams just said
"Fuck this, force fields"
add something like a repair ship. to repair the main ship and ships in battle.
The height indicators are a great idea!
Thanks! I hope it doesn't make it too busy
@@lostmarbles3d They help a bit with understanding where ships are, but I feel they take away from the aesthetics of the space battle (good example at 7:45) it starts looking like a diorama of a space battle rather than an actual space battle.
4:22 that Defence Field Frigate was trolling so hard, green would have won if that one ship moved to actually defend the mothership
Incredible video, loved the different behavior between classes of ships. It's been a long wait for a new space war and with all the changes it was totally worth it!
I love the explosions you added in. Very well done.
At no point did I know who was going to win and that cool. Most of the time one sides builds up a lead and snowballs it but not this time
This is the best Space War format imo
Ok I am in love with the new space war. I think with. Bit more polish that is inevitably going to happen this will beat trench wars for me.
That early rush from blue pretty much won it for them and they did a good job holding for the rest of the time
Nice! Reminds me of a Homeworld game I used to play back in the days.
I see they're busy making Homeworld 3, I never played the original but I keep wondering if I should give it a try
i think u should, they have remastered versions too. It's quite unique with their 3d movement. And it's story is nice too.@@lostmarbles3d
They made a remaster of that
@@lostmarbles3d The Homeworld 2 Remaster is very good. I liked it quite a bit.
idea: repair ship, end teir, repairs the ship for 100HP every 30 seconds, 10 marbles = 1 ship
I also wrote about this idea
Green fought a good fight, I was hopeful for the epic comeback. If that battleship roll was + however marbles/minute instead, that would have been epic.
This 1 was absolutely epic! To date my favorite of the space wars, and by far the hardest to guess the victor for. Well done indeed
Could you please explain the stats of the difrent spaceships.
Small ships:
Fighter - Low damage, low hp
Bomber - Twin high damage attack, can only hit large ships
Medium ships:
Gunship - Has a rapid fire laser gun on all sides, each can shoot a different target, good when surrounded
Shield - Has a large shield that blocks all projectiles hitting it, has many hit points
Missile - Similar to bomber, but can also target medium size ships. Fires 5 homing missiles.
Large ships:
Frigate - Forward railgun that pierces and deals high damage, also has several turrets on sides and top
Battleship - Very high hit points, has a triple plasma cannon in front (can only target large ships), and also many laser turrets on sides
Carrier - High hit points, has several laser turrets on all sides, spawns fighters and bombers periodically
I like the action, but I couldn't keep track of the marbles after a few minuts, it's too chaotic. The Simulation itself was very entertaining tho, but I also always enjoy seeing numbers go up
I wish this kind of gameplay mode to be modded into Star Wars : Empire at War.
add more ships please, make them cloak would be good, try to have some be speedy, maybe make some glass cannons, or some with great armor but sucky guns, i'd like variety
Although I do think that +1 marble per minute wasn’t a bad idea in concept, it definitely makes it extremely unfair at a certain point and I think it should just be a passive increase instead
Hmm... if damage increasing marble, or any kind of autoguard
Amazing video. Love this mode
I think the way you did them before was better, but i do like less glow on the ships
That was great! I absolutely loved it! I want to see more!
me: fires laser. misses
laser: hits some random person on unknown planet
Miss the 3rd person craft views, love the space war vids, I do prefer these over the trench wars
I kept telling myself "GET MORE FIGHTERS!" but then I realised am watching a screen so doing that is pointless 💀It was sad to see green fail tho :(
spoiler wall!
always said to see green lose...
More of these
Just wondering why did so many marbles seem to bounce off selections?
It's a bit hard to see, but there is also a circle there, maybe just a few pixels sticking out above the trigger. The colour selection makes it additionally difficult to see. Will fix it in the next one!
Booooo. Green should not have lost that!
Would love to see more like this though
Judging by the views it's getting it might be a while between all the trench wars, but I do intend to make more! Still a lot of things that I want to fix here
@lostmarbles3d is it not performing as well? That is a shame :(
The graphics are looking amazing.
For fixes I think the main thing is pace and time. It's space, I think it would feel nicer, and would allow us to watch more stuff if everything was slower paced and further apart.
Idea I had is that the spanners start close together so we can see the dogfights of fighters, but they travel away from each other so that by the end, battleships and carriers are fighting over longer distances and we may barely even be able to see fighters apart from when they explode.
Second, I would expand the health differences, I don't think even 30 fighters should be able to take down a battleship, but the large weapons should do more damage.
I might also change the visuals for different weapons, it became hard to tell what was shooting what, perhaps different brightness shades of colour, or even different colours all together. Red for missiles, green for beam lasers etc.
Hopefully this video starts to perform better because I think it has far more potential than thr marble trenches or kingdoms.
Ps. I would love to see a return to the concept of battleships fighting with marbles inside each ship. There is so much room to add and play around with the concept and I think it could look amazing!
Anyway, great work and can't wait till the next one :)
@@Axis_._ reading your comment reminds me, originally I was planning to make a 3D version of the space battle on my main channel, maybe it's time to do that! The difference would be that each player just starts with some ship. Maybe have different ship types to make it interesting.
Thank you for the feedback and your support :)
Idk if you've seen Space Battleship Yamato but you should add submarines that generate personal wormholes to sneak up on the other team
I haven't, it's probably about time I do! I did recently rewatch Spaceship Operators to scratch that hard scifi itch.
Honestly this felt like a real downgrade compared to your last Space Wars.
No longee where the Cockpit views
No longer was the wave deployments
The ships dont even come out from the mothership anymore either.
That +1 Marble was a very clear "okay whoever gets it win" modifier
And i do appreciate the Height thing but with how the ships themselves not really doing the crazy dog fighting like they used to more so moving like army men figures instead or models.
Eh. It just doesnt feel all that great sadly with all the new affects too.
Great video nevertheless but yeah
I also was noticing that some of the modifers and counts where wrong too
For example early on Blue gets a 4X modification on a Marble then lands on a +20.
What should be accounted for first?
Because should the +20 be added first for the original count of 1. Making it 20 then the 4x modifier? Making it 80?
Or is it 1 by the 4x modifer plus 20 for just. 24?
This game was weird and a bit rigged, every marbles were going to the right, making it very slow for any new troops to spawn
I was struggling a bit to get them to bounce enough to reach the end, so side ways gravity was my solution. I'll probably rework that area entirely.
@@lostmarbles3d Oh ok, I'm so used to the classic Marble Wars that it surprised me, good job still, we love it !
So is this a game that you can download and play or what’s the deal here?
It's just a project I made in Unity, only on my PC at the moment. I do have vague plans to make some of my videos/games downloadable, but I haven't had the time
Could you the same thing you did with the other video by multiplying everything by 10
how do you do this?
Aye hello, can u make some older vids again?
Do you have any plans to release these games to the public?
Yes, but I've been constantly delayed, so no idea if/when I'll get around to it
Hello sorry for asking again but. when are you gonna make tutorials? Im just curious
Yes, I've been wanting to, but for various reasons I haven't had time to do it in the last few months (I've been planning to start recently)
Thank you for answering and when you do can you give me the link of the youtube channel.@@lostmarbles3d
spoiler blocker ✋
Seems rigged
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