MSU shooter convicted on 2019 gun charge; Lansing neighbors often heard gunshots

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  • Опубликовано: 13 фев 2023
  • The shooter who gunned down eight students on Michigan State University’s campus Monday had previously pled guilty to a gun charge in Lansing and was not allowed to carry a firearm.

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  • @jesusb.9571
    @jesusb.9571 Год назад +46

    Justice system failed those students. Why are we giving those charged and convicted of gun charges probation or plea deals? This is on the prosecutor AND judge

    • @jakeman025
      @jakeman025 Год назад +7

      Because it would be racist lul

    • @christmasdenier
      @christmasdenier Год назад +6

      Even better, why are people depending on someone else to keep them safe? This is a free country and the home of the brave. The word brave isn't to be taken lightly.

    • @ismileatdeath27
      @ismileatdeath27 Год назад +4

      As someone who’s been charged with a bs gun charge not all are violent. Mine was because some dumb ass friend lied about having his gun registered on a hunting trip and in fact he didn’t . Well he fucked over me and two other friends cause he wanted to be cool /bad mouth the the cop with his ghost gun. I had mine registered, had a license to carry and as did the other two . I know this isn’t the case for this situation but sometimes it’s just because of one pos who wants to be cool who ruins it for everyone. I’m on probation and plan on reregistering to apply for a gun and do it by the book again . My biggest lesson from it was to choose who I associate with correctly when operating firearms and makes sure EVERYONE has their shit in order . If they don’t have it registered or a hunting license they aren’t coming and I wanna see proof meaning paperwork and licenses!

    • @gwood69
      @gwood69 Год назад

      What does the justice system have to do with him getting a gun? He had a gun charge for concealing a weapon with out a permit to conceal…he clearly passed a background check to get a gun
      I mean what else do you want “the justice system” to do? Seems to me this guy would have obtained an illegal weapon and break the law in order to do what he did so I don’t think the justice system was going to stop him

    • @colinl5951
      @colinl5951 Год назад

      Both Democrat

  • @22lyric
    @22lyric Год назад +11

    "He was not allowed to carry a firearm." THAT doesn't work!
    Heartbroken for the families of these three students who will be without them FOREVER!❤️🙏

    • @fasteddy
      @fasteddy Год назад

      What doesn’t work is County Prosecutor Carol Siemon releasing gun law violators with a slap on the wrist. Enforce the laws or suffer the consequences. Democrat Agenda at work!

  • @Ed-527
    @Ed-527 Год назад +10

    So gun laws for all citizens didn't work? Maybe need to make law that criminals can't have guns!

    • @colinl5951
      @colinl5951 Год назад

      Lol

    • @UltimateGaming-ih
      @UltimateGaming-ih Год назад

      I was about to say the same thing lolz. Laws won't prevent people from getting their hands on deadly force.

  • @youdontsay3379
    @youdontsay3379 Год назад +7

    I am sick and tired of hearing about mental health being used as an excuse for the actions and behavior of evil devil monsters

    • @colinl5951
      @colinl5951 Год назад

      You probably should be commited.

    • @nunyabiz1780
      @nunyabiz1780 Год назад +1

      Do these liars tell you prior charges against the shooter were dropped because equity?

    • @youdontsay3379
      @youdontsay3379 Год назад +1

      @mindcontrolcounselors...I am not spreading hate. You must be referring to the gunman who shot and killed these innocent people at this university

    • @gregtoepke8974
      @gregtoepke8974 Год назад

      It's the media that toys with the mental health in our country

  • @jammerjen5504
    @jammerjen5504 Год назад +11

    I believe it's far past time to stop dropping charges on ppl - especially for gun charges or heinous crimes!!

    • @oreli2556
      @oreli2556 Год назад

      That would have to be enforced for whites too and you know they ain't goin for it.

    • @UltimateGaming-ih
      @UltimateGaming-ih Год назад +2

      How about arm and train everyone?

    • @oreli2556
      @oreli2556 Год назад

      @@UltimateGaming-ih if cops are poorly trained what makes you think people with mental illness, depression, poor anger management, learning disabilities, or just plain evil intent can be properly trained. It's going to make the problem worse because trained people will forget their training just like cops do but there will be more guns on the street.

    • @oreli2556
      @oreli2556 Год назад

      @@UltimateGaming-ih I really want to know what makes you people think having a gun means you're protected. I'm pretty sure the elderly and mothers out with children don't want to get caught in gun fights because you decided everyone should have a gun.

    • @jammerjen5504
      @jammerjen5504 Год назад +1

      @oreli2556 when only the bad guy (who doesn't care about other ppl's lives) is the only 1 with a gun, who lives?? If you have a gun, you've got the opportunity to defend your life against that potential murderer.
      If more moms & grandmas carried guns, there'd be a whole lot less victims in this crazy world we live in!!

  • @lezobrandon3398
    @lezobrandon3398 Год назад +7

    Being not allowed to carry a gun never stopped anyone also why wasn't he in jail still if he was convicted seems like another social justice case gone wrong pretty much anyone who voted Democrat has to take the blame for this sad story

  • @RR-zq3mk
    @RR-zq3mk Год назад +25

    I’m waiting on a statement from the black community like blm and Al sharpton

    • @queenv9412
      @queenv9412 Год назад +6

      Hardly ever is it a black dude…it’s majority a white male ranging teenagers to twenties.

    • @stinkstank5177
      @stinkstank5177 Год назад

      @@queenv9412 - Go back to bed! And then wake back up to reality, Fail.

    • @Rustyknife1
      @Rustyknife1 Год назад

      @@queenv9412 keep believing that marxist propaganda, most gun violence in this country comes from one particular group of people

    • @Beastmode365
      @Beastmode365 Год назад

      I'm waiting on the Republicons to do something about it whether your black or White🤡

    • @queenv9412
      @queenv9412 Год назад +2

      @@stinkstank5177 do your research after you wake up or just remain sleeping…

  • @juliewillis6499
    @juliewillis6499 Год назад +22

    That's not a young man

    • @erickomar3152
      @erickomar3152 Год назад +9

      He was turning his life around going to church every Sunday and participating in them programs.

    • @danielc3472
      @danielc3472 Год назад +1

      With age wisdom isn’t assured

    • @UltimateGaming-ih
      @UltimateGaming-ih Год назад +1

      @@SS-ln6zf that's a funny analogy

    • @kevt3770
      @kevt3770 Год назад

      @@SS-ln6zf That makes no sense.

    • @UltimateGaming-ih
      @UltimateGaming-ih Год назад

      @@SS-ln6zf not entirely sure if that it's accurate but it's certainly funny.

  • @martinhonan9588
    @martinhonan9588 Год назад +6

    Exactly the profile I had in mind. Nice pillar of the community.

  • @wilburshaw9330
    @wilburshaw9330 Год назад +10

    Oh Crap, he doesn’t fit the Narrative!

  • @michaelcardenas6278
    @michaelcardenas6278 Год назад +14

    ahh so it was an ILLEGAL GUN. but more laws for the citizens

    • @scottlecompte2400
      @scottlecompte2400 Год назад +1

      Yea and the banning of the pistol brace will solve all the problems. Don't forget that law.

    • @cmcsdf
      @cmcsdf Год назад

      You say the same shit when it’s a legal gun.

    • @rogerleonard5351
      @rogerleonard5351 Год назад

      Gun free zones? Most criminals always follow all laws.

    • @michaelcardenas6278
      @michaelcardenas6278 Год назад

      @@scottlecompte2400 ahh yes how could i forgot the law that makes it easier to hit anyone else but my target

    • @michaelcardenas6278
      @michaelcardenas6278 Год назад

      @@cmcsdf if we put a gun in a room with one in the head and point it in our direction and set it down...guess what...it wont go off buddy but let some loonytoon bafoony get behind that gun n POW!. mental health man they should focus on it

  • @FritoJ
    @FritoJ Год назад +2

    To be fair, gunfire in Lansing is not really unusual at anytime throughout the year.

  • @franklinmartin8103
    @franklinmartin8103 Год назад +2

    So NO amount of present gun control worked in this case because the "system", judges, prosecutors and the like allowed him to short cut the system and a person that should not have ever been able to obtain a weapon, was allowed to do so with horrible consequences. If a person has demonstrated their unreliability for being responsible in possessing a weapon then why did the system give that person another chance by providing pathways around the laws. For all the gun control laws on the books and we do know that criminals will not abide by any regulation or follow any law, and then our prosecutors allow such leniency in punishment as to make any rule, regulation or law totally ineffective.

  • @Timduo
    @Timduo Год назад +1

    All problems started at home.. he looks like an outcast, and from what the neighbor said, he didn’t have a good relationship with his parents.. but that still no reason to go and shoot at random people smh..

  • @juliewillis6499
    @juliewillis6499 Год назад +7

    That s a grown older man

  • @juliewillis6499
    @juliewillis6499 Год назад +5

    What in the world was he thinking about

    • @lilliansrakovcic1365
      @lilliansrakovcic1365 Год назад

      Nothing.

    • @trumpsinsurrection9046
      @trumpsinsurrection9046 Год назад

      @@erickomar3152 or another insurrectionis or meth

    • @erickomar3152
      @erickomar3152 Год назад

      @@trumpsinsurrection9046 Maybe. But I don't know any black meth heads.

    • @trumpsinsurrection9046
      @trumpsinsurrection9046 Год назад

      @@erickomar3152 he probably was thinking my president Joe Biden would pardoned him kinda like y'all thought diaper Donnie was going to pardon y'all for the insurrection 😂😂😂 (wrong) 😂😂😂

    • @erickomar3152
      @erickomar3152 Год назад

      @@trumpsinsurrection9046 I wasn't in Washington D.C. on January 6th so I don't need a pardon.

  • @deenice9169
    @deenice9169 Год назад +27

    Nice….keep letting criminals off easy and put stricter gun laws for law abiding citizens. Also keep defunding police departments. I’m sure that should work 👍 😁

    • @ee-ef8qr
      @ee-ef8qr Год назад

      Law abiding my ass, every criminal was a "law abiding citizen" till they put rounds in other people.

    • @deenice9169
      @deenice9169 Год назад +2

      @@ee-ef8qr so everyone should be considered guilty til proven innocent
      Noted pal 👍
      Stalin could’ve used a guy like you in his cabinet

    • @crucfx.
      @crucfx. Год назад

      @@deenice9169 lol dont bother. hes part of the problem

  • @stewartpidazzo3003
    @stewartpidazzo3003 Год назад +6

    You mean the laws didn't actually stop a criminal from committing crimes?!?!?! No way!!

  • @freedomm403
    @freedomm403 Год назад +8

    We can send Billions to other countries but we can’t put armed security Or even reserves at our schools? Praying for all

    • @dhall5634
      @dhall5634 Год назад +2

      Yea somehow hardening the schools is proposterous...even though it's done for vip's kids all the time .. Also I'm sure that would cost waaaay more than 120 billion ;)

    • @dhall5634
      @dhall5634 Год назад

      @Nomen Claturegreeaaat fuc*in argument

    • @kendallhughes7507
      @kendallhughes7507 Год назад +1

      never been to MSU I see, that campus is GIGANTIC!!!!!! you would need an army of security guards!!!!!

    • @opticsking4909
      @opticsking4909 Год назад +1

      Israel thanks you

    • @opticsking4909
      @opticsking4909 Год назад +2

      @@kendallhughes7507 more high paying jobs

  • @kingdomofheavenseeker7383
    @kingdomofheavenseeker7383 Год назад +5

    As long as people don't seek God and repent there will never be hope

    • @patmoore7959
      @patmoore7959 Год назад +1

      The only hope I have left is God amen

    • @scottlecompte2400
      @scottlecompte2400 Год назад

      Well I imagine one of those students that was shot probably went to church and believed in God. But I guess God didn't help them.

  • @professionaltrollkilla5965
    @professionaltrollkilla5965 Год назад +1

    So he was recruited

  • @Parmigianapapi
    @Parmigianapapi Год назад

    Start putting anyone who is carrying without permit away for 25 years minimum I bet you no one will carry illegally

    • @colinl5951
      @colinl5951 Год назад

      Permits are unconstitutional.

  • @mattkissmyasstyrants8676
    @mattkissmyasstyrants8676 Год назад +3

    Why isn't this story plastered all over the national newz? Why hasn't this been discussed on the view? oh wait,, I see @0:58.. nevermind... nothing to see here, move along.

    • @oreli2556
      @oreli2556 Год назад +1

      You didn't watch the view did you 😒

  • @Parmigianapapi
    @Parmigianapapi Год назад +1

    Rest in peace to those kids man 😪 this is horrible why do they always have to go for the schools man this man should’ve been put away the first offense wow I’m really starting to believe that Guns are not good for our communities anymore people are too crazy.

    • @franklinmartin8103
      @franklinmartin8103 Год назад

      You said it, "it's the people who are too crazy". So why allow them the ability to possess a weapon. The Biden admin better improve the mental health available for all

    • @Parmigianapapi
      @Parmigianapapi Год назад

      @@franklinmartin8103 first off biden is a fart commander i am not a far left dem i just do not like people having weapons outside of their home.

    • @franklinmartin8103
      @franklinmartin8103 Год назад +2

      @@Parmigianapapi I do not mind responsible people having weapons anywhere. I am against people who are itching to ditch the 2nd Amendment. There is a responsibility in possessing and owning a weapon. That responsibility is not found in everyone. The responsibility should be earned by those who can demonstrate they have the necessary training, or can be trained, and responsibility and positive forward thinking attitude to handle themselves in difficult situations. That means they would never give or loan their weapon to someone else who could operate it out side the visual range of the original owner. Nor would they sell or give such a weapon to another Person who does not have the training or responsibility to possess it.

    • @nunyabiz1780
      @nunyabiz1780 Год назад

      Do these liars tell you prior charges against the shooter were dropped because equity?

    • @Parmigianapapi
      @Parmigianapapi Год назад

      @@nunyabiz1780 sticking up for a school shooter ? Ok I hope your friends and family know that your sticking up for a school shooter

  • @err0r0b0
    @err0r0b0 Год назад

    *Touchdown!*
    _Unbreaded.._

  • @conniesmith5161
    @conniesmith5161 Год назад +3

    I had a cousin and her husband was obsessed with guns. One time when I came to their house I open the door to come in and, and he pointed the gun at me and click the trigger nothing went off but don't you ever point a gun at me again! Never the less, even after that incident he wound up accidentally supposedly, shooting my cousin his wife. Well she lived through it and wound up divorcing him. I believe that people can become addicted to guns, like people are addicted to drugs, and like people are addicted to food, but the problem with guns is if they do have guns and obsess over them, you really don't know what's going on in their minds, they could have very dark thoughts!

    • @christmasdenier
      @christmasdenier Год назад +4

      That didn't happen don't lie

    • @conniesmith5161
      @conniesmith5161 Год назад

      Thou shalt not lie! I take this commandment of God very seriously!

    • @colinl5951
      @colinl5951 Год назад

      Lies

    • @christmasdenier
      @christmasdenier Год назад

      @Connie Smith
      Cool so I feel like that didn't happen

    • @nunyabiz1780
      @nunyabiz1780 Год назад

      Do these liars tell you prior charges against the shooter were dropped because equity?

  • @LoveDemGuns
    @LoveDemGuns Год назад +10

    But the GUN LAW said he couldn't have one! I can't believe this! (Hella sarcasm)

    • @terrybea
      @terrybea Год назад

      so of course the solution is to enact more gun laws!

  • @jamesmiller5331
    @jamesmiller5331 Год назад +12

    Woke mob just let out a collective groan.

  • @GMBCNoteKeys
    @GMBCNoteKeys Год назад

    I like how they slipped the father's name in ...so American..I don't think the news ever did that on no other shooter's 🤔 not 💯

  • @geraldboesen5037
    @geraldboesen5037 Год назад +6

    Another Democrat gone; however, he will still vote for Biden in 2024.

  • @colinl5951
    @colinl5951 Год назад +3

    How are those gun laws working lol. Proof that criminals don't care about gun laws. Let's investigate the Democrat DA and judge for letting him go.

  • @georgejesson1944
    @georgejesson1944 Год назад

    Just the norm in Murica. Another day of outcry, a moment of silence.... Blah blah blah.....

  • @fasteddy
    @fasteddy Год назад +1

    Courts, Ingham County courts, prosecutor Carol Siemon released this killer instead of prosecuting him with the law is what did this

  • @francisgoldstien6153
    @francisgoldstien6153 Год назад +1

    His arrest was for sitting on the steps
    And having a gun without a permit.
    We'll the constitution says you don't need a permit
    So it was wrong to arrest him for that anyway.

  • @DS-sk9ed
    @DS-sk9ed Год назад +2

    Then the neighbors should be criminally charged they heard his gunshot why did they call the cops

    • @professionaltrollkilla5965
      @professionaltrollkilla5965 Год назад +12

      If you’re going to type something so ridiculous at least proofread it before posting.

    • @lakwjejdnfjr181
      @lakwjejdnfjr181 Год назад

      @@professionaltrollkilla5965fr dude this guy is chronically stupid

    • @stinkstank5177
      @stinkstank5177 Год назад +1

      Spoiler alert, they can’t read.

    • @DS-sk9ed
      @DS-sk9ed Год назад

      @@stinkstank5177 they can read cuz they're on Facebook and Tik-Tok all the time. But the whole model in Detroit is snitches get stitches. So nobody reported him. So you get a f****** mass murder because the f****** people lived with him or pieces of f****** s*** torturing raping and murdering people

  • @kyleerickson5512
    @kyleerickson5512 Год назад

    Maybe if he didn’t have a gun in the first place people wouldn’t be injured or dead…

  • @trumpsinsurrection9046
    @trumpsinsurrection9046 Год назад +1

    He's a republikkkan 😂😂😂

    • @heatshield
      @heatshield Год назад

      Wtf?

    • @trumpsinsurrection9046
      @trumpsinsurrection9046 Год назад

      @@heatshield maga tears 😭🍼🍼

    • @jluck1590
      @jluck1590 Год назад

      @@trumpsinsurrection9046 your name says it all, another loser lost in the political theatre. Let it be known trump and Biden are friends in real life, so is Hillary and trump, who attend eachothers weddings, so is all left and right presidents who play political theatre to have you suckle at the system. I am not a fan anymore of either side.

    • @jluck1590
      @jluck1590 Год назад

      @@trumpsinsurrection9046 but yeah let's play it like a football game and the left really is winning this time. Can't wait for next presidential election where you all grab your merch and act like you all have a say. Please let me know I lost next time so we can continue the game of who is wrong or right.

    • @geraldboesen5037
      @geraldboesen5037 Год назад +1

      Now, he is nothing.