Mangudai Is The Best Unit To Micro

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  • Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
  • mongols vs celts on megarandom. Really fun game with tons of action and constant micro. I just love mangudai, they are too smooth to hit and run with. Hope you guys enjoy!
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  • @HeraAgeofEmpires2
    @HeraAgeofEmpires2  4 года назад +20

    Been slacking a little with the youtube content lately. Expect more videos next week, including more So you want to play and more coachings!

  • @smugshrug
    @smugshrug 4 года назад +15

    the mangudai is the powerhouse of the mongolian cell

  • @tylerfehr7883
    @tylerfehr7883 4 года назад +8

    Insane micro of those 5-6 mangudai to completely clean his initial forward. Nice play

  • @TheStrangeBloke
    @TheStrangeBloke 4 года назад +6

    This was a professional hit job. All these elo 500 people in the comments saying "daut screwed up" but the reality is, no, Hera was just that clean this game. Ofc Mongols have an advantage, but wow.
    Loved that monk healing station you set up there haha. Let you be so annoying for so little risk, probably got like four free mangonel kills for that

  • @ShubhamKumar-xt8rx
    @ShubhamKumar-xt8rx 4 года назад +19

    Mangudai needs to be microed to keep living

    • @Darfail
      @Darfail 4 года назад +3

      I think that was the most epic micro I've seen

    • @camilocarrillo2132
      @camilocarrillo2132 4 года назад +2

      @@Darfail have you seen starcraft koreans? it was pretty sharp micro but nothing crazy

    • @Darfail
      @Darfail 4 года назад +2

      @@camilocarrillo2132 yes I have but as far as I can tell Hera is the fastest AOE2 player I've seen

  • @LeandroJelicic
    @LeandroJelicic 4 года назад +5

    Congrats for the BOA. U were amazing guys!

  • @krystofcisar469
    @krystofcisar469 2 года назад

    Gotta say - monk siege push with initial militias was some ballsy move from daut. I wouldnt know what to do against mongols in this matchup so hats of to both of you. Magudai attack bonus is insane.

  • @TheQuebs
    @TheQuebs 4 года назад +3

    "I don't usually beat daut because of my micro". Proceeds to nerd out for 20 min against onagers.

  • @tag180rotax
    @tag180rotax 4 года назад +2

    14:19 militia killing mangudai is my spirit animal

  • @devagr
    @devagr 4 года назад

    Daut: lames boar vill
    Hera: "So you have chosen death"

  • @UnfamiliarPlace
    @UnfamiliarPlace 4 года назад +1

    People wondering what Celts can do vs Mangudai... definitely not siege, skirms not great because they'll lag way behind in late game, halbs are okay but will get outmicro'd even in fairly large numbers. Celts do get (weak) paladin whereas Mongols don't get halb, so a combination of pals, halbs, and maybe stray skirms would go a long way towards a solution. The micro at 25:50 can't be done if there are pals hitting you too that soak up lots of arrows. Main goal would be to keep mangudai running while you hit the base/eco e.g. with woads or rams

    • @satyakisil9711
      @satyakisil9711 4 года назад +1

      Celts should use Scorpion instead of Mangonel. They're way better against Mangudais.

    • @UnfamiliarPlace
      @UnfamiliarPlace 4 года назад

      @@satyakisil9711 Yup, it would be a lot better because it's that much harder to dodge. I would still hesitate (as a frequent Celts player who dreads facing Mongols) unless you have lots of them. As long as you have only a few targets of almost any unit, a good Mangudai player can snipe them through microing. Just my opinion but I think any dangerous unit is still going to lose unless paired with a lot of damage-soaking units to make microing unfeasible. The trash and the good units need each other :D

    • @TheStrangeBloke
      @TheStrangeBloke 4 года назад

      I think in this case daut played it right, trying to kill Hera with a timed mangonel push. Hera's micro was absolutely unbelievable there and he still nearly lost the game.
      Scorpions are not a real solution I think. Worse range, way worse damage, and worse hp. They work vs. melee units because infantry have to blob up to go on the attack, but against mangudai you'll only be hitting 3-4 units with each shot. Doesn't feel like you'd get enough done quickly enough. You will always deal some damage with scorpions but with 1-2 good onager shots you'd deal way more, and you need high end performance to actually win.
      When did he have time to tech switch into paladins???

  • @vladhorf
    @vladhorf 3 года назад

    This was absolutely bananas, that micro agaisnt those 6 onagers near the end had me wowing the whole time

  • @catotonica3287
    @catotonica3287 4 года назад

    Great casting with Memb the other day, Hera. Watching you cast during NAC3 was the reason I decided to sub to your twitch. Keep up the great work.
    Edited to congrats for the BoA!

  • @ARZATEVELASCO
    @ARZATEVELASCO 4 года назад +3

    Best of lucks in the coming match. You are highly adored by the latín comunity, there is plenty of mexican, spanish, colombian etc that are waithing to se AM vs Secret in a few hours, you can't imagine the amount of latín people fans! Best of wishes. Saludos!

  • @anirudhv5940
    @anirudhv5940 4 года назад +3

    Hey Hera,that was some amazing micro!
    Btw,would it be possible to make a video where you talk about how to deal with all in pushes?Like Goths just spamming m@a + skirms in feudal,1 tc castle age all in pike siege monk rushes.Meta seems to be much easier to play against than this stuff.

    • @anirudhv5940
      @anirudhv5940 4 года назад

      Like how would you have dealt with daut's push if you weren't Mongols with mangudai?

    • @toastybatch565
      @toastybatch565 4 года назад

      Goths you just have to wall up early and make archers. That way, you can attack the maa when they attack your house walls/palisades, then when they move back and try to bring skirms up, you just pull the archers back.

  • @Prawn47
    @Prawn47 4 года назад +2

    Celts eat TC but mangudai eat mangonels

  • @knowledgeispower5393
    @knowledgeispower5393 4 года назад

    Hera you are awesome man!! Love From Canada Edmonton:) btw, do you know if mangudai will ever get their 0 frame delay back? miss the old mangudai

  • @UnfamiliarPlace
    @UnfamiliarPlace 4 года назад +2

    19:05 to the commentor who envies Hera's apm... I like watching Hera's stream for the attitude (better than Viper), but I have to say, the overclicking does get to me sometimes! High apm because of a lack of surgical precision... see 19:17 for example. Then again, I shouldn't be talking on a micro-heavy game like this

    • @gamaxgbg
      @gamaxgbg 4 года назад

      Can you please explain what do you mean by attitude?

    • @UnfamiliarPlace
      @UnfamiliarPlace 4 года назад +1

      @@gamaxgbg Hera is always positive and chill, and even laughs when things get rough, which is a good vibe for me

  • @mythology2467
    @mythology2467 4 года назад

    Funking micro *breathes in* NEEEEEERD

  • @amirabbas2126
    @amirabbas2126 4 года назад +1

    Hi Hera from tunisia keep it up!

  • @MauroFont21
    @MauroFont21 4 года назад +1

    Best unit, period.

  • @petervlcko4858
    @petervlcko4858 3 года назад

    Bro you need to take one catapult (or two) and flatten all forest around your enemies. Start slowly away then progress towards base or base straight away. He will think that you are after his units and want to get in so maybe he start wall himself and spent wood which will shorten quickly. 🙏

  • @satyakisil9711
    @satyakisil9711 4 года назад

    That was some CBA tier micro.

  • @gamaxgbg
    @gamaxgbg 4 года назад +1

    Man, this unit is ridiculous. They need to lose this sick bonus against siege, or at least be nerfed.

  • @TheAmazingDom
    @TheAmazingDom 4 года назад

    What are Celts supposed to do? Just hope you fuck up your micro? Is there nothing else?

  • @kenanbalija3574
    @kenanbalija3574 4 года назад

    Masterful Micro

  • @iscissor1
    @iscissor1 4 года назад

    How do you delete so fast your buildings?

  • @anandmuralis7659
    @anandmuralis7659 4 года назад +1

    Is the title of the video changed? The old one was badass

    • @HeraAgeofEmpires2
      @HeraAgeofEmpires2  4 года назад +2

      Yeah because I felt like it might have been clickbait or something 11

  • @harmirrau
    @harmirrau 4 года назад

    congrats

  • @footsy420
    @footsy420 4 года назад

    You are amazing.

  • @Jocw27
    @Jocw27 4 года назад

    What about kipchaks ?

  • @overcharged2078
    @overcharged2078 4 года назад +1

    How many upgrades does the mangudai needs?

    • @vishnurachakonda5112
      @vishnurachakonda5112 4 года назад +4

      Atleast 12 that I know of.
      5 blacksmith, 2 archery range, 2 stable, 2 University, elite mangudai

    • @CrnaStrela
      @CrnaStrela 4 года назад +1

      @@vishnurachakonda5112 conscription

    • @karnazacss
      @karnazacss 4 года назад +1

      @@CrnaStrela so, 13 upgrades

    • @jhudk2d
      @jhudk2d 4 года назад +1

      @@karnazacss heresy and faith, 15 upgrades

    • @CULatte
      @CULatte 4 года назад

      @@jhudk2d x256, lol

  • @kankantona9070
    @kankantona9070 3 года назад

    vs fast archer, scorpion much better than mango...but still need repair a lot

  • @FellTheSky
    @FellTheSky 4 года назад

    why does he goes siege vs mangudai

    • @simontheteacher1942
      @simontheteacher1942 4 года назад +3

      Celts don't get bracer, ring archer armor or thumb ring, they also lack plate barding armor and bloodlines. So they only have one long term option and it is infantery and siege. It is a tough match-up for celts, mangudais counters everything they can make. Onagers is probably the best shot Daut has to do anything here, since, even if mangudai counter them, you can always hope that a good shot will get you back in the game

    • @CrnaStrela
      @CrnaStrela 4 года назад +1

      Why not? He almost sealed the game at castle age with his mango rush. Mangudai is extremely micro intensive, playing against onager is basically predicting your opponent's prediction. It's just too bad for DauT Hera's micro there saved him from defeat and managed to pull him off into Imperial. Had the mongol is just some random 1500-1800 players they will definitely call GG there.

  • @zachhawk7536
    @zachhawk7536 4 года назад +1

    First

  • @theotherfaceof
    @theotherfaceof 3 года назад

    Game is broken not balanced