This is the 4th Despicable Me movie and these girls haven't grown an inch. I get that they're not going for realism here, but they are trying to convey the passage of time here; Gru has been their parent for quite a while and he and Lucy have gotten married AND now they have a baby so it's been at least a couple of years since the first movie, so you'd think they'd want to maybe update the character designs a bit, have some character growth both literally and literary... Oh who am I kidding? This is Illumination, of course they don't want that.
@@im4ft622 quite possible, but: a) you could age them up by a couple of years and still keep them cute; b) that's what the minions are for; and c) that's what the new baby is for!
@@ShirDeutch Yes, but execs need a new yacht, and they aren't paying the animators enough for what they _are_ doing, let alone artistic things they might want to do.
6:43 animator here, overanimation is 100% a real problem. So tired of people treating 12 principles of animation like it's 12 commandments, it's an arbitrary list made to achieve a very specific type of animation, and it doesn't even include a lot of other foundational knowledge that's needed to actually make this type of animation
Yeah like I'm sure those 12 principals are important. But a universal way to do any kind of art is a garbage idea for obvious reasons. I hope you're doing okay and paid decently for your labor. I know a lot of animators are in a shitty place.
There was that clip going around of a anime game where a cat or wolf girl was cleaning herself and it was extremely over animated, and people who don’t understand animation were trying to say you can’t over animate or it should be the new norm.
@nmr7203 Femine and Flamboyant are different things. All the male villains are Flamboyant, even Gaston from Beauty and the Beast, so is the villain from Aladdin. Scar acts Flamboyant. As if you see Scar looking at himself while putting on makeup or shaking his hips. Just because YOU associate dramaticness with women for some reason, does not mean that it's acting female.... You thinking so sounds kinda......
Even the first hotel transylvania had a good thing with its animation explaining characters. Drac is stiff and uptight and secretive and the guy being wobbly and flowy. You already know what they're about
Even better example Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs Officer Earl is robotic, the father is calm and limited, and in the sequel the Steve Jobs stand-in had like jelly arms meant to make him both hysterical and offputting to indicate he ain't normal.
@@DeepEye1994Then of course our main protagonist Flint Lockwood has a very springy and wild movement to show his excitement and batshit insanity as an inventor
If I recall, doesn't his movement become much more fluid later on when he's bonding with Johnny? Like the scene with them sorting the dining tables, he moves around more loose and freely, spreading out his arms and legs more as he jumps between tables instead of keeping them stationary at his sides like he usually would. That difference in animation stands out a lot more when the characters move in a way that expresses how they're feeling.
It's kind-of wild that they couldn't just let these films be about something that feels interesting and different, like the relatable struggle of raising 3 kids as a single father. They had to get in the full family, too, so now Gru has a wife and a baby, and by the end of the next one he'll probably have a dog, too. We didn't have to do this, but it does hit weird that this feels like they NEEDED to do it because it's the safest and most predictable option? I know nobody's literally holding a gun to their head or something, but you get what I mean, right?
I dunno', I wouldn't be surprised if execs _would_ threaten animators (and more importantly, writers) to stick to the classic "American Dream" style representation. All rich people are DESPERATE to not have the rapidly shrinking middle class become aware that all of the promises of a bright future were just lies so they could pocket the profits of the present.
@@ashkebora7262 Yeah, that makes sense, honestly. Like probably some focus group testing or something is just like "Hey, our chart shows that people relate to families consisting of two cishet parents and a dog. So do that because nobody wants this single parent crap." And then the writers just have to make it work however they can.
@@SeanORaighThank you, I remember my work friends years and years ago (not that many years ago though lol, I'm in my thirties) verbally fellating GnR and I just never got the appeal. Slash is a good guitarist but he always felt like a robot to me, Axel Rose has always been an unlikable [ADVERTISER UNFRIENDLY WORD] who can't sing worth a damn, and is there even anyone else in the band? Like, there has to be, but any time I try to picture them or remember their names I get static. Their best songs are super super average too
@@makeitthrough_ yeah I don't get it either. Most 80s/90s songs that get played ad nauseam sound so dull to me. They all sound similar, they all use the same words in their lyrics, they all sound hollow. I swear half of them are about sex, which I thought older people didn't like to be referenced in media
I know illumination have a limited playlist but at least sweet child of mine referenced the new baby. Who is maneater refering too. Thats all i was thinking. 'Wooooah here she comes' WHO? WHO ARE YOU ON ABOUT? The mother, the sidekick to the villain, the honey badger? The woman with the 12 principles of animation
2:18 he sounds so tired and burnt out from everyone hyperfixating on his online opinions. I’ve been saying this for months: unless real harm is being enacted (your safety or livelihood is being threatened) , I don’t see the point of clapping back EVERY SINGLE time someone posts a weird, non-constructive reaction to your media takes
yeah even when I disagree with adum i dont think he should have to do a disclaimer before every negative opinion about something, but then I remember some of the absurd backlash hes gotten before because someone decided to make a media franchise or entertainment product their whole identity and every criticism then becomes a personal attack
Do those girls ever age… like at all? Who is the guy that has beef with Gru? And for that matter, who is that girl he’s with? Why would you bring your infant son to a dangerous mission?
What worries me is that so many people I see are getting to the point where they think Illumination is the best American animation studio today, that’s how you know how screwed the animation industry is at the moment
I'm still confused about the time jump between this movie and the third because the girls look exactly the same (at this point I'm starting to think they have some unconfirmed growth deficiency syndrome).....also let's not forget, this movie implies that Gru and his wife.....you know
Id be fine with them being the same if it were not for the Kid. Yeah its odd for a now decade franchise to keep characters at same age but ive nothing against it if they want to tell stories in the specific time as long as it sticks to that, which 4 is clearly not doing. Like Minions clearly changes the age of setting and characters... well except for the titular yellow pills being eternal.
To be fair, using old songs/bands in these kids movies and trailers is probably for introducing children to these songs when young so they can be nostalgic for them later. Feels like a win win for marketing since the parents are nostalgic for the songs already, and the companies get to introduce their known music library to kids who might not have heard it otherwise, preserving their status as classics that everyone has heard. There will always be kids who haven't heard these songs in the many other shows and movies they've been in, so they might as well keep adding them in kids movie stuff to get em when young. It's still corporate and mostly corny, but it probably isn't as thoughtless as it seems on the surface.
I shit you not, I had my volume at less than 50% (my default setting), and it was like having it at maximum volume. This should win the award for “Loudest Trailer.”
I feel ya. I'm a working animator, and the film I just finished they did want character shown through the acting. But honestly, the 12 Principals of Animation are more about the physics of movement than the character's particular acting. But, if you're not a good actor, as an animator, or if your director or execs was "MORE" it's gonna come out same-y and not personality driven.
Bless you for loving your craft. I hope more people are inspired to get into the field of animation, despite how cynical and corporate the industry has become.
It’s not drastic animation, but even the 3D Monster High show had animation dedicated to how their characters move. Every character had a different walk style, and that’s all I could ask for in animated movies n stuff
Honestly i think out of ones ive seen to them, Migration might have most infuriating flaws. Granted i have not seen all their movies, mostly due to lack of interest. But id still say their Debut is the best thing theyve done.
I took a kid I babysat to the first Despicable Me the day it opened. It was one of the first times I was excited to see a film and had all that excitement and part of my soul drained from me within ten minutes. As we were walking home the kid said to me, "We should've seen How to Train Your Dragon, that one's better." Here we are 14 years later, and not only is Despicable Me still going, but Illumination acquired and destroyed How to Train Your Dragon half a decade ago. Put me back on the timeline where Dreamworks didn't get bought out and big animated films are still good.
@@blueflare3848 Both me and the kid had already seen HTTYD in theaters TWICE already. We also went to see the live-action ATLA movie, and he was actively heckling the film by the end.
What’s incredibly annoying is that because of the Mario movie (which from what I’ve heard wasn’t even that good, it just had Mario in it), everyone is convinced Illumination has “redeemed” themselves and are getting hyped about anything they do - no joke, one trailer for that duck movie was LITERALLY JUST FOOTAGE FROM ALL THEIR OTHER MOVIES - and EVERYONE in the comment section was like “oh this will be the next Pixar, way better than Disney garbage, totally not something outta Dreamworks library in 2008, I love duck movie” and it’s like.. did we see the same trailer? Is everyone on crack??
@@txwtw omg YES YOURE RIGHT - I think since the guy who owns Illumination got Dreamworks (or universal? Idk) they’ve just been churning out baby films and cancelling the movies that had more adult-ish themes…….. please stop giving this man animation studios
It pains me that Illumination can put “From Illumination Studios” text in trailers and general audiences wouldn’t think that’s a giant red flag that the film will be terrible.
Illumination has fully gone from just Sub-Par family films, to Sub-Par children's films, and we've finally hit Sub-Par infant sensory videos that adults have the privilege of paying for
@@apollofell3925 The images I get from prompts on Microsoft’s AI Image Creator are better than Illumination’s animation. Although I don’t think AI should overtake everything in animation, but if some AI means we’ll get more visually appealing animation than the plastic CGI from Illumination, so be it.
@@BirdsandGhibliFan That's basically what I mean. If AI can generate something less offensive to the eyes than professional animators, maybe those animators should find something else to do for a living.
I’m on the side that AI will never get good enough to do that. Animation is just far too complicated to do something like that. Even if AI suddenly began to understand all of the 12 principles of animation (which is probably impossible) it still would only be at a beginner level. It would never be able to understand to change the way a character moves based off of it’s weight, personality, disabilities and so on. In order for it to be good at animating it has to understand so much more than just making something move. All of these people being concerned have nothing to worry about, unless AI achieves full consciousness it will never replace quality animation. Also you guys are kinda exaggerating how bad Illumination’s animation is, it’s not good and it has zero personality. But it is far from terrible. I actually think the Mario Movie had pretty solid animation, especially in the backgrounds.
In fairness, Sweet Child O Mine is one of the most overplayed songs in all of fucking music history so it wouldn't surprise me if some kids would somehow recognize it
11:41 - There's a button for "ADD 30 sec" - it's an easter egg because it also the acronym for the disorder and attention span of most of the movie's target audience.
I was at the hairdresser the other day and this poor dad was next to me with his chubby blonde child, listening as the kid told him about the movie he was most excited for, because this time the bad guy has a kid. I could feel every one of the dad's "Uh huh"s in my soul.
9:56 I feel like I've seen the "grandma can actually kick ass" trope so many times why is it a thing. Like nothing against grandmas but why is it a trope?
I think they put the songs in the movie a) for divorced dads since there are so many working in Hollywood and b) it makes it harder for people like you to react to them. Hollywood's a bubble. *pop*
"We should put in a honey badger, I hear those things are so popular they have their own RUclips channel now! Yeah, something to do with men's rights, idk it's big with my grandson though." -movie execs, ten years behind the times at all times
@@CyndiLarper The Simpson's characters have gotten stale in part because they never got older. Andy from Toy Story Aged. That was a big part of why people liked that film. There are plenty of anime where characters get older and it's usually received well. The girls don't have to age In real time but it would be better if they got older.
I assume because 1. they're the cute little girls from those movies everyone loves, having them change would be new and scary, and 2. aging them now would set a new precedent, they would have to keep aging them every movie and how are they gonna make despicable me 20 with no cute children? 🤔
Not sure who these movies are for other than executives or people who need background sounds. My 5 yr old likes Spy x Family and thinks minions are stupid
I mean I know it's a lame defense for poor writing, but these movies are supposed to be made for kids. Isn't there some intense violence and murder in spy x family? Also, a deep and well written plot is great and all, but how does your 5-year-old manage to keep up with and know what's going on? Even if it's dubbed most kids at that age aren't known for having great attention spans. I'm not trying to criticize your parenting style or anything, but I'm just curious. I know that every kid is built different, but I want to know what works and what doesn't work and why something works for when I become a parent.
@theprofesionalist7927 she found out about Anya from artists on youtube and started watching clips. We started watching the dub on Hulu together. I know what's in each episode before she sees it and know what's appropriate or not. The politics are over her head but the family aspect and Anya are what she likes. I don't just let her watch whatever or show adult things. She found Anya herself and now randomly likes cosplays. Pretty sure the closest thing to horror violence shes seen was in Hocus Pocus. Every kid is different. I'm not a perfect dad but my kids are my best friends while still respecting rules
@@fromvault801 Thanks for the input man and sorry if I came across as rude. I should have figured there was way to just skip the more mature scenes/episodes and summarize what was going on for your daughter in terms or concepts that she could understand or handle at her age and assume that you were already doing that. I also think it's a cool idea to pick animes with mostly wholesome or family-based themes as an early start to get your kids into anime. Plus, you're either doing a great job or you should be really proud that your daughter can pay attention to and appreciate media that has an actual plot to it unlike most 5-year-olds (especially the ones nowadays). If you want to keep giving your daughter similar stuff to watch, then I'd recommend that she check out Buddy Daddies. However, if you think that there'd be too many violent scenes in it that you'd have to skip over then I completely understand.
Bro, I've been hearing the song all over grocery store radios ever since Guardians of the Galaxy 3. The fact that it is now going to pop up everywhere again because of Despicable Me 4 makes me want to cry.
The villain says '' I'M coming for my revenge Gru! '' that makes no sense! It's the first time we saw him and same for Gru. If he said '' I'm here baldy! '' that would be better! Gru has a baby and the 3 girls DIDN'T grow up? Weird! Also, doctor Nefario is not here. Maybe he's dead?
I’ll give illumination some credit for at least sticking out for their artist and animators, cause even they are somewhat aware of what they’re doing, even going as far as to mock NFTs and recently AI images. But they really need to improve on their storytelling abilities and the way they developed their characters. And I pray to god Meledandri will look into more “filmmaker attention” like he did with Benjamin Renner for Migration.
12:43, PLEASE look at chat, there's a comment (referring to Adam's point about the microwave gag) that says, "Almost like if you made a movie about racism and made the segregated race made of fire that can burn and kill everyone else." Zootopia
1:46 If Adam will do a "Watch-Along" videos for "Sing," "Sing 2," and "The Secret Life of Pets." it will be fine. Ralph and Alex already done their own perspective of not liking Illumination films so I hope Adam will bash these Comcast Kiddie movies. Pretty soon. 😈
4:21 who cares? DreamWorks have more resource ideas and creative things than Illumination did. At least Pixar tried as well unless no same objects all over again.
@@mdude3 literally the only good movie they’ve made since Despicable Me 2 is the Mario Movie. And I’m pretty sure the only reason that turned out well was because Shigiru Miyamoto would have made Chris Meledandri disappear if it didn’t.
They should called it Despickleble me and have it be about Gru turning himself into a pickle and he4 has to science his way back to human but he gets into a gunfight with the mob.
This trailer just makes me feel exactly the same as the trailer from the third movie. There's nothing new, it's all just the same shtick, the same formula, the same basic sense of humor.
0:48 to be fair, kids do have to be introduced to old songs from SOMEWHERE, if you only put stuff kids would recognize, they just won't get introduced to new things
The over dramatic "maneater" part is so fucking weird lol, it doesn't match the song or movie and its barely even recognizable, theres pretty much no point in adding the song, especially since like he said in the video, kids wont know that song, its just such a weird decision
At this point I'm like, "You know what? I'm calling right now that this will be a hit." Why am I not surprised? That's saying a lot because I knew that Illumination is milking this franchise like how Blue Sky did with Ice Age. You know, at least Wish had a purpose for existing: making a simple and fun movie made to commemorate Disney's 100th anniversary which AniMat and Smarty Pants made a lot of good points about it (despite the huge amount of backlash by grifters), so looking at Despicable Me 4, it's a Ice Age sequel kind of cash grab.
I saw an early screening for Migration and I personally thought it was very good for illumination standards, but knowing how illumination studios can be they probably took out all the actual good things from the earlier version of the movie but I dunno.
I like Sweet Child of Mine and Maneater, but it's becoming ridiculous that they're film trailer songs. Sweet Child is almost closer to the end of WW2 than to us, a trailer for The Matrix would have had Elvis Presley songs in it if the patern had always been like this. I even doubt that it's nostalgia for the parents, because these are songs that my parents listened to when they were young. I doubt that Illumination is targeting parents in their 50's-60's to bring their 20-30-something children to Despicable Me 4
I agree, the trailer for Despicable Me 4: the Third Squeakuel would improve if the music was replaced by classical music. My vote would be O Fortuna, to reflect the audience’s reaction to a _sixth_ Despicable Me movie
the songs are for the parents. they hear music they like and they see akids movie so they end up thinking that they should bring their kids to it cause it will make the kids happy.
I knew GnR when i was a kid because of my mom. Obviously I know what Adam means when he's talking about it. Terminator 2 had GnR but that wasn't for kids and they used it in a fresh way, not to mention it wasn't a 30 something year old. song everyone wants to be cool edgy because that's a song I know
Regarding that closing statement: Listen, Pixar's on a temporary downswing at the moment imo. Sure, Lightyear and Elemental were pretty low quality. But I think the last few films before that from Onward to Turning Red were pretty entertaining and well-made films. Luca felt almost Miyazaki-like to be honest. We're due for a good Pixar film soon.
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This is the 4th Despicable Me movie and these girls haven't grown an inch. I get that they're not going for realism here, but they are trying to convey the passage of time here; Gru has been their parent for quite a while and he and Lucy have gotten married AND now they have a baby so it's been at least a couple of years since the first movie, so you'd think they'd want to maybe update the character designs a bit, have some character growth both literally and literary... Oh who am I kidding? This is Illumination, of course they don't want that.
Too lazy for new designs/models or wanting to keep them cute
@@im4ft622 quite possible, but:
a) you could age them up by a couple of years and still keep them cute;
b) that's what the minions are for; and
c) that's what the new baby is for!
I haven't even considered this in the several years they've been making these movies, but that's very true.
@@ShirDeutch Yes, but execs need a new yacht, and they aren't paying the animators enough for what they _are_ doing, let alone artistic things they might want to do.
6:43 animator here, overanimation is 100% a real problem.
So tired of people treating 12 principles of animation like it's 12 commandments, it's an arbitrary list made to achieve a very specific type of animation, and it doesn't even include a lot of other foundational knowledge that's needed to actually make this type of animation
Yeah like I'm sure those 12 principals are important. But a universal way to do any kind of art is a garbage idea for obvious reasons.
I hope you're doing okay and paid decently for your labor. I know a lot of animators are in a shitty place.
umm actually Mario fanboys said that overanimation is impossible so you're wrong
There was that clip going around of a anime game where a cat or wolf girl was cleaning herself and it was extremely over animated, and people who don’t understand animation were trying to say you can’t over animate or it should be the new norm.
@@GrayD_FoxI need to see this.
@@jackhanson3856it's a video of a game named zenless zone zero
coining "Grunior" (Gru Junior) before anyone else can solely to piss people off
i wish it was still commonplace to make original music for children’s films
Can't. Need more stale eighties shit brainrot
“The way a character moves should say something about the character.”
This is true. For example, Scar is foreign, weak and with very female moves.
I think you mean flamboyant, not female…
No, he meant female. A lot of Disney villains move in very traditionally feminine ways.
@nmr7203 Femine and Flamboyant are different things. All the male villains are Flamboyant, even Gaston from Beauty and the Beast, so is the villain from Aladdin. Scar acts Flamboyant. As if you see Scar looking at himself while putting on makeup or shaking his hips. Just because YOU associate dramaticness with women for some reason, does not mean that it's acting female.... You thinking so sounds kinda......
@@MaidenOfHusbandsnah female is correct
@@MaidenOfHusbands Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think they're referring to Adum's Kimba video, where someone says exactly this quote
Even the first hotel transylvania had a good thing with its animation explaining characters. Drac is stiff and uptight and secretive and the guy being wobbly and flowy. You already know what they're about
Even better example
Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs
Officer Earl is robotic, the father is calm and limited, and in the sequel the Steve Jobs stand-in had like jelly arms meant to make him both hysterical and offputting to indicate he ain't normal.
@@DeepEye1994Then of course our main protagonist Flint Lockwood has a very springy and wild movement to show his excitement and batshit insanity as an inventor
If I recall, doesn't his movement become much more fluid later on when he's bonding with Johnny? Like the scene with them sorting the dining tables, he moves around more loose and freely, spreading out his arms and legs more as he jumps between tables instead of keeping them stationary at his sides like he usually would. That difference in animation stands out a lot more when the characters move in a way that expresses how they're feeling.
probably because Gendy Tartovsky worked on it.
An Illumination film that looks terrible, who could have predicted that?!
It's always been. Whatever happened to 2d animation in movies?
quick, inform Ralph!
@@UnwantedGhost1-anz25The first Despicable Me was good. Everything they released after that sucked.
cost more money and time then 3d. Hollywood wants to make more money, spend less, as fast as possible@@UnwantedGhost1-anz25
@@UnwantedGhost1-anz25
2D doesn’t automatically make an animated film good. There’s plenty of shitty 2D movies
Wow. That voice isolation is actually amazing. I couldn't really tell that the voice lines were extracted tbh. Fantastic as usual, Olivia!
Isn’t it a feature in Adobe Premiere?
@@ezgames6925 Looks like it's in Adobe Premier Pro. I don't use it, I just googled your question.
It's kind-of wild that they couldn't just let these films be about something that feels interesting and different, like the relatable struggle of raising 3 kids as a single father. They had to get in the full family, too, so now Gru has a wife and a baby, and by the end of the next one he'll probably have a dog, too. We didn't have to do this, but it does hit weird that this feels like they NEEDED to do it because it's the safest and most predictable option?
I know nobody's literally holding a gun to their head or something, but you get what I mean, right?
1000% gru and his baby end up keeping that thing chasing them around until the baby gives it a milk bottle
He already has a dog. And a long lost twin brother that will probably never show up again.
Next up is working to hand the keys over to the next generation and have someone be the "new" gru.
I dunno', I wouldn't be surprised if execs _would_ threaten animators (and more importantly, writers) to stick to the classic "American Dream" style representation. All rich people are DESPERATE to not have the rapidly shrinking middle class become aware that all of the promises of a bright future were just lies so they could pocket the profits of the present.
@@ashkebora7262 Yeah, that makes sense, honestly. Like probably some focus group testing or something is just like "Hey, our chart shows that people relate to families consisting of two cishet parents and a dog. So do that because nobody wants this single parent crap."
And then the writers just have to make it work however they can.
"0/10 not enough sweet children" - Scoot probably
Sweet Child O Mine and Maneater are way too good and badass to be put in a bloody illumination movie trailer.
Sweet child o mine is mid. A 6/10 song at best
@@SeanORaigh I was about to say to the same for the entirety of Guns N' Roses catalog but 80s hair metal has always been trash imo.
I'm just starting to wonder if they even bother to make new music any more, this is just recycling 90s hits ad nauseam. It doesn't even fit.
@@SeanORaighThank you, I remember my work friends years and years ago (not that many years ago though lol, I'm in my thirties) verbally fellating GnR and I just never got the appeal. Slash is a good guitarist but he always felt like a robot to me, Axel Rose has always been an unlikable [ADVERTISER UNFRIENDLY WORD] who can't sing worth a damn, and is there even anyone else in the band? Like, there has to be, but any time I try to picture them or remember their names I get static. Their best songs are super super average too
@@makeitthrough_ yeah I don't get it either. Most 80s/90s songs that get played ad nauseam sound so dull to me. They all sound similar, they all use the same words in their lyrics, they all sound hollow. I swear half of them are about sex, which I thought older people didn't like to be referenced in media
I miss when gru was grumpy and sarcastic
I agree but I guess gru is developing and changing as a character
I know illumination have a limited playlist but at least sweet child of mine referenced the new baby. Who is maneater refering too. Thats all i was thinking. 'Wooooah here she comes' WHO? WHO ARE YOU ON ABOUT? The mother, the sidekick to the villain, the honey badger? The woman with the 12 principles of animation
Climate change.
Adum’s version of purgatory is listening to “Sweet Child o’ Mine” by Guns N’ Roses for the rest of eternity.
Life Is hell. In 50 years were still going to get Guns N Roses songs in the backgrounds of movies with no soul.
2:18 he sounds so tired and burnt out from everyone hyperfixating on his online opinions. I’ve been saying this for months: unless real harm is being enacted (your safety or livelihood is being threatened) , I don’t see the point of clapping back EVERY SINGLE time someone posts a weird, non-constructive reaction to your media takes
yeah even when I disagree with adum i dont think he should have to do a disclaimer before every negative opinion about something, but then I remember some of the absurd backlash hes gotten before because someone decided to make a media franchise or entertainment product their whole identity and every criticism then becomes a personal attack
I mean I don’t blame him. If it’s constant and from hundreds if not thousands of people, he’s allowed to get one jab in
Do those girls ever age… like at all?
Who is the guy that has beef with Gru? And for that matter, who is that girl he’s with?
Why would you bring your infant son to a dangerous mission?
What worries me is that so many people I see are getting to the point where they think Illumination is the best American animation studio today, that’s how you know how screwed the animation industry is at the moment
Say sike rn. Pls tell me no one actually thinks these movies are good
@@srslydoatm9251 dude you’d be shocked, at least from regular people I know on a daily basis, a lot of people call these good films.
@@CountOfMonteCristo_ oh my god
@@srslydoatm9251 yep, we are doomed 🙃
Yep, and I still think that Wish is an alright movie and felt that the hate is unfair.
"Sweet Child of mine" was also used in Thor 4, including in the trailer, making this choice even less original.
Sweet Child o' Mine has been used in EVERYTHING
They throw in 80s songs so the parents automatically like it.
Illumination's formula in the OST in a nutshell
But parents who have young children now were born in the 90s.
I'm still confused about the time jump between this movie and the third because the girls look exactly the same (at this point I'm starting to think they have some unconfirmed growth deficiency syndrome).....also let's not forget, this movie implies that Gru and his wife.....you know
Gru sex canon!??!?!!!??!!??!!
@@Tom-jy6mc Unfortunately yes... unless the kid was some weird lab experiment which I doubt....so yes Gru sex canon.......what a time to be alive
Id be fine with them being the same if it were not for the Kid. Yeah its odd for a now decade franchise to keep characters at same age but ive nothing against it if they want to tell stories in the specific time as long as it sticks to that, which 4 is clearly not doing.
Like Minions clearly changes the age of setting and characters... well except for the titular yellow pills being eternal.
To be fair, using old songs/bands in these kids movies and trailers is probably for introducing children to these songs when young so they can be nostalgic for them later. Feels like a win win for marketing since the parents are nostalgic for the songs already, and the companies get to introduce their known music library to kids who might not have heard it otherwise, preserving their status as classics that everyone has heard. There will always be kids who haven't heard these songs in the many other shows and movies they've been in, so they might as well keep adding them in kids movie stuff to get em when young.
It's still corporate and mostly corny, but it probably isn't as thoughtless as it seems on the surface.
I could’ve sworn I heard Borat when he said “wife”
I shit you not, I had my volume at less than 50% (my default setting), and it was like having it at maximum volume. This should win the award for “Loudest Trailer.”
I like the Olivia Info-boxes giving additional context!! Nice addition.
I feel ya. I'm a working animator, and the film I just finished they did want character shown through the acting. But honestly, the 12 Principals of Animation are more about the physics of movement than the character's particular acting. But, if you're not a good actor, as an animator, or if your director or execs was "MORE" it's gonna come out same-y and not personality driven.
Bless you for loving your craft. I hope more people are inspired to get into the field of animation, despite how cynical and corporate the industry has become.
I do wish you the best lol if you're in america the dweebs that came before you didn't think to unionize. I hope youre paid decently at least
@@rudeboyspodcastno, its already oversaturated with constant layoffs
Every time Thunderstuck is used for a moment in a movie/show that doesn’t fit, I die inside.
It’s not drastic animation, but even the 3D Monster High show had animation dedicated to how their characters move. Every character had a different walk style, and that’s all I could ask for in animated movies n stuff
“Migration is their best film.”
“I’d give it a 2-to-3/10.”
I refuse to see the movie, but I agree.
Honestly i think out of ones ive seen to them, Migration might have most infuriating flaws. Granted i have not seen all their movies, mostly due to lack of interest. But id still say their Debut is the best thing theyve done.
I say that without counting sequels or Hop, it might be their worst film in recent years IMO.
remember the horror remix of Five On It for the movie 'Us'?
I need that same treatment for Maneater
I took a kid I babysat to the first Despicable Me the day it opened. It was one of the first times I was excited to see a film and had all that excitement and part of my soul drained from me within ten minutes. As we were walking home the kid said to me, "We should've seen How to Train Your Dragon, that one's better." Here we are 14 years later, and not only is Despicable Me still going, but Illumination acquired and destroyed How to Train Your Dragon half a decade ago. Put me back on the timeline where Dreamworks didn't get bought out and big animated films are still good.
The kid was right. HTTYD is ten times better, in literally every single way.
@@blueflare3848 Both me and the kid had already seen HTTYD in theaters TWICE already. We also went to see the live-action ATLA movie, and he was actively heckling the film by the end.
@@apollofell3925 What’s the ATLA movie?
@@BirdsandGhibliFan The Last Airbender directed by M Night Shyamalan.
@@apollofell3925 shhh you can't say that out loud
also DreamWorks got bought out?? I've heard that but I thought it was a joke
Milk those tictacs until there’s nothing left, Illumination.
What’s incredibly annoying is that because of the Mario movie (which from what I’ve heard wasn’t even that good, it just had Mario in it), everyone is convinced Illumination has “redeemed” themselves and are getting hyped about anything they do - no joke, one trailer for that duck movie was LITERALLY JUST FOOTAGE FROM ALL THEIR OTHER MOVIES - and EVERYONE in the comment section was like “oh this will be the next Pixar, way better than Disney garbage, totally not something outta Dreamworks library in 2008, I love duck movie” and it’s like.. did we see the same trailer? Is everyone on crack??
Same with dreamworks, people thought that dreamworks would enter their renaissance era just cause of puss in boots.
@@txwtw omg YES YOURE RIGHT - I think since the guy who owns Illumination got Dreamworks (or universal? Idk) they’ve just been churning out baby films and cancelling the movies that had more adult-ish themes…….. please stop giving this man animation studios
hopium or copium, either way they're huffing that shit
The 2nd trailer of Migration basically confirmed that it was just Secret Life of Pets again.
As someone who saw the Mario movie in theaters I wasn’t a fan of it at all.
It pains me that Illumination can put “From Illumination Studios” text in trailers and general audiences wouldn’t think that’s a giant red flag that the film will be terrible.
It sounds like their still using the same voice actresses for the children despite how much older they've gotten since the first one.
Sweet Child Of Mine? Okay makes sense, he has kids.
Maneater? Who exactly is the Maneater?
Can’t believe they’re actually doing Baby Gru. Baby Yoda was 5 years ago! You’re too late!
This franchise is the annoying song that never ends
I got in a car accident while Sweet Child o Mine was on the radio. So I would like to thank the Minions for bringing back such terrible memories
At this rate I really want Adum reacting to the 12 principles of animation. Not even joking.
Despicable Me isn’t a kids movie. It’s a boomers movie
Illumination has fully gone from just Sub-Par family films, to Sub-Par children's films, and we've finally hit Sub-Par infant sensory videos that adults have the privilege of paying for
Damn this looks overanimated
EDIT: sorry I haven't read the 12 principles of animation until now. I've recognized the error of my ways.
Love that pfp
I’m just glad Jordan Peterson has new book out. 12 Rules for Life needed a sequel for animators.
Recently they made a new Anti-AI teaser for the movie. And as much as I despise this studio, it’s kinda based of them to take a stand against AI
If AI animates better than Illumination, they deserve to lose their jobs and money.
I'm glad they did, but the fact it was illumination and not a more credible studio is sad
@@apollofell3925 The images I get from prompts on Microsoft’s AI Image Creator are better than Illumination’s animation. Although I don’t think AI should overtake everything in animation, but if some AI means we’ll get more visually appealing animation than the plastic CGI from Illumination, so be it.
@@BirdsandGhibliFan That's basically what I mean. If AI can generate something less offensive to the eyes than professional animators, maybe those animators should find something else to do for a living.
I’m on the side that AI will never get good enough to do that. Animation is just far too complicated to do something like that. Even if AI suddenly began to understand all of the 12 principles of animation (which is probably impossible) it still would only be at a beginner level. It would never be able to understand to change the way a character moves based off of it’s weight, personality, disabilities and so on.
In order for it to be good at animating it has to understand so much more than just making something move.
All of these people being concerned have nothing to worry about, unless AI achieves full consciousness it will never replace quality animation.
Also you guys are kinda exaggerating how bad Illumination’s animation is, it’s not good and it has zero personality. But it is far from terrible. I actually think the Mario Movie had pretty solid animation, especially in the backgrounds.
If I were held up at gun point I would have beet my life that they made Despicable Me 4 five years ago.
Once again, shit like this goes to show just how creatively bankrupt Illumination is as a company.
In fairness, Sweet Child O Mine is one of the most overplayed songs in all of fucking music history so it wouldn't surprise me if some kids would somehow recognize it
11:41 - There's a button for "ADD 30 sec" - it's an easter egg because it also the acronym for the disorder and attention span of most of the movie's target audience.
Chatter at 1:55 says he'll raise his kids listening to Infant Annihilator. That right there is good parenting.
I was at the hairdresser the other day and this poor dad was next to me with his chubby blonde child, listening as the kid told him about the movie he was most excited for, because this time the bad guy has a kid. I could feel every one of the dad's "Uh huh"s in my soul.
9:56 I feel like I've seen the "grandma can actually kick ass" trope so many times why is it a thing.
Like nothing against grandmas but why is it a trope?
Hoodwinked did it best 😤
It's supposed to be funny. Subverting expectations and whatnot.
@@ekuudethe one from Madagascar 1 and 2 was killer too
@@joinsideke Fair
I think they put the songs in the movie a) for divorced dads since there are so many working in Hollywood and b) it makes it harder for people like you to react to them. Hollywood's a bubble. *pop*
"We should put in a honey badger, I hear those things are so popular they have their own RUclips channel now! Yeah, something to do with men's rights, idk it's big with my grandson though." -movie execs, ten years behind the times at all times
4:38 "Help, stepbrother! I'm stuck~!"
When people just put this kinda shit on to occupy their small child, I question their parenting skills
Why haven’t the girls gotten older?
That requires making new models. That's hard, so can't do it.
You can diss this movie in a myriad of ways, but aging? How old would Bart Simpson be?
@@CyndiLarperNew baby implies at least 10 months have passed since the last movie. A little bit of aging would happen since then
@@CyndiLarper The Simpson's characters have gotten stale in part because they never got older. Andy from Toy Story Aged. That was a big part of why people liked that film. There are plenty of anime where characters get older and it's usually received well. The girls don't have to age In real time but it would be better if they got older.
I assume because 1. they're the cute little girls from those movies everyone loves, having them change would be new and scary, and 2. aging them now would set a new precedent, they would have to keep aging them every movie and how are they gonna make despicable me 20 with no cute children? 🤔
Despicable Me series is basically Natalie Cassidy's "I'm doing this now" sketch of cinema.
Not sure who these movies are for other than executives or people who need background sounds.
My 5 yr old likes Spy x Family and thinks minions are stupid
I mean I know it's a lame defense for poor writing, but these movies are supposed to be made for kids. Isn't there some intense violence and murder in spy x family? Also, a deep and well written plot is great and all, but how does your 5-year-old manage to keep up with and know what's going on? Even if it's dubbed most kids at that age aren't known for having great attention spans. I'm not trying to criticize your parenting style or anything, but I'm just curious. I know that every kid is built different, but I want to know what works and what doesn't work and why something works for when I become a parent.
@theprofesionalist7927 she found out about Anya from artists on youtube and started watching clips. We started watching the dub on Hulu together. I know what's in each episode before she sees it and know what's appropriate or not. The politics are over her head but the family aspect and Anya are what she likes.
I don't just let her watch whatever or show adult things. She found Anya herself and now randomly likes cosplays. Pretty sure the closest thing to horror violence shes seen was in Hocus Pocus. Every kid is different. I'm not a perfect dad but my kids are my best friends while still respecting rules
@@fromvault801tbh, you sound awesome
@@fromvault801 Thanks for the input man and sorry if I came across as rude. I should have figured there was way to just skip the more mature scenes/episodes and summarize what was going on for your daughter in terms or concepts that she could understand or handle at her age and assume that you were already doing that. I also think it's a cool idea to pick animes with mostly wholesome or family-based themes as an early start to get your kids into anime. Plus, you're either doing a great job or you should be really proud that your daughter can pay attention to and appreciate media that has an actual plot to it unlike most 5-year-olds (especially the ones nowadays). If you want to keep giving your daughter similar stuff to watch, then I'd recommend that she check out Buddy Daddies. However, if you think that there'd be too many violent scenes in it that you'd have to skip over then I completely understand.
Bro, I've been hearing the song all over grocery store radios ever since Guardians of the Galaxy 3. The fact that it is now going to pop up everywhere again because of Despicable Me 4 makes me want to cry.
Or was it Thor: Love and Thunder? I don't care, point stands
I saw this trailer for the first time in theaters today. It gave me a headache and I had no idea what was going on.
The villain says '' I'M coming for my revenge Gru! '' that makes no sense! It's the first time we saw him and same for Gru. If he said '' I'm here baldy! '' that would be better!
Gru has a baby and the 3 girls DIDN'T grow up? Weird! Also, doctor Nefario is not here. Maybe he's dead?
I’ll give illumination some credit for at least sticking out for their artist and animators, cause even they are somewhat aware of what they’re doing, even going as far as to mock NFTs and recently AI images.
But they really need to improve on their storytelling abilities and the way they developed their characters. And I pray to god Meledandri will look into more “filmmaker attention” like he did with Benjamin Renner for Migration.
12:43, PLEASE look at chat, there's a comment (referring to Adam's point about the microwave gag) that says, "Almost like if you made a movie about racism and made the segregated race made of fire that can burn and kill everyone else."
Zootopia
People are surprised Mike White wrote this, like he didn’t write “The Emoji Movie”
1:46 If Adam will do a "Watch-Along" videos for "Sing," "Sing 2," and "The Secret Life of Pets." it will be fine. Ralph and Alex already done their own perspective of not liking Illumination films so I hope Adam will bash these Comcast Kiddie movies. Pretty soon. 😈
4:21 who cares? DreamWorks have more resource ideas and creative things than Illumination did. At least Pixar tried as well unless no same objects all over again.
7:12 the censorship is too good, I'm curious what some idiot said :/
Adam! I don't know how you could mistake the PRACTICAL effects in the fnaf movie for cgi. It's unbelievable
The first two despicable me movies are decent. Everything after that is literal minion farts.
uh no
@@mdude3 literally the only good movie they’ve made since Despicable Me 2 is the Mario Movie. And I’m pretty sure the only reason that turned out well was because Shigiru Miyamoto would have made Chris Meledandri disappear if it didn’t.
They should called it Despickleble me and have it be about Gru turning himself into a pickle and he4 has to science his way back to human but he gets into a gunfight with the mob.
This trailer just makes me feel exactly the same as the trailer from the third movie. There's nothing new, it's all just the same shtick, the same formula, the same basic sense of humor.
0:48 to be fair, kids do have to be introduced to old songs from SOMEWHERE, if you only put stuff kids would recognize, they just won't get introduced to new things
The amount of grown-ass people in my life that laugh their asses off at Minions continues to make me very sad at least once a week
The over dramatic "maneater" part is so fucking weird lol, it doesn't match the song or movie and its barely even recognizable, theres pretty much no point in adding the song, especially since like he said in the video, kids wont know that song, its just such a weird decision
imagine listening to 80s music but only overproduced hollywood remixes of them...
At this point I'm like, "You know what? I'm calling right now that this will be a hit." Why am I not surprised? That's saying a lot because I knew that Illumination is milking this franchise like how Blue Sky did with Ice Age. You know, at least Wish had a purpose for existing: making a simple and fun movie made to commemorate Disney's 100th anniversary which AniMat and Smarty Pants made a lot of good points about it (despite the huge amount of backlash by grifters), so looking at Despicable Me 4, it's a Ice Age sequel kind of cash grab.
I saw an early screening for Migration and I personally thought it was very good for illumination standards, but knowing how illumination studios can be they probably took out all the actual good things from the earlier version of the movie but I dunno.
The Voice isolated clip was great idea!!
I like Sweet Child of Mine and Maneater, but it's becoming ridiculous that they're film trailer songs. Sweet Child is almost closer to the end of WW2 than to us, a trailer for The Matrix would have had Elvis Presley songs in it if the patern had always been like this.
I even doubt that it's nostalgia for the parents, because these are songs that my parents listened to when they were young. I doubt that Illumination is targeting parents in their 50's-60's to bring their 20-30-something children to Despicable Me 4
11:12 hey, thats not a little girl's voice!
I just listened 10x to Papa Mama Loca Pipa from the Despicable Me 3 soundtrack and its the best song ever
as a huge Despicable me fan ill admit im actually looking forward to this
oliviamancer conveniently cut out the part where Adum saw the minion butt joke and laughed and clapped
4:39 😑 The fan fics and art featuring this premise will be horrific. A vending machine instead of a washer.
“It was their best film. I think I gave it a 2.”
Anyone else kind of weirded out that the girls never age? It's been four movies and they have stayed the same age.
Can’t wait to see that Grussy in theaters
0:30 And...Migration? Don't play yourself, you rate 3/10 in your Letterboxd.
2:10 Olivia, that's what I said and jeez he did already. No regrets.
I agree, the trailer for Despicable Me 4: the Third Squeakuel would improve if the music was replaced by classical music. My vote would be O Fortuna, to reflect the audience’s reaction to a _sixth_ Despicable Me movie
Why is there time progression with some characters but not others???
Illumination wastes such good 3D animation talent on the most trite swill.
shoutouts to the guyat 1:08 who says "this is for men" hardest ive laughed in a while
the songs are for the parents. they hear music they like and they see akids movie so they end up thinking that they should bring their kids to it cause it will make the kids happy.
Wait, there's a Despicable Me *4?*
*Why??*
I knew GnR when i was a kid because of my mom. Obviously I know what Adam means when he's talking about it. Terminator 2 had GnR but that wasn't for kids and they used it in a fresh way, not to mention it wasn't a 30 something year old. song everyone wants to be cool edgy because that's a song I know
Taken By Trees does a really good cover of 'Sweet Child o' Mine'
Adam needs to study up on the 69 principles of animation.
this trailer goes hard on mute
What had to be scrolled off screen at like 8 mins in?
Someone left a weird comment.
@@YMSHighlights Like hateful weird or schizo numerology weird from a few weeks back?
Regarding that closing statement: Listen, Pixar's on a temporary downswing at the moment imo. Sure, Lightyear and Elemental were pretty low quality. But I think the last few films before that from Onward to Turning Red were pretty entertaining and well-made films. Luca felt almost Miyazaki-like to be honest. We're due for a good Pixar film soon.
Pixar hasn't made a good movie since Wall-E
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