Intel ARC A770 & A750: 18 Months Later - Finally Worth it?
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- Опубликовано: 6 июл 2024
- Intel ARC A770 & A750: 18 Months Later - Finally Worth it?
Intel had a rough start with their Arc GPU lineup. Between price drops and driver/performance improvements, is it finally worth it?
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Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro
0:56 - Card Lineup
4:23 - Performance Testing
9:14 - Software & Features
10:40 - Final Thoughts
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I play modern warefare on highest settings 2k over 100fps, the finals 165 fps, fortnite, forza , resident evil 3 2k highest settings over 80 fps, all other games i have played on highest settings over 90 fps
Im really happy with my arc 770
For any kind of production or video editing work, the a750/a770 are pretty much unmatched in terms of price to performance. Plus, AV1 encoding on the cheap.
Thank you, Danny! 👍🏼 I'm hanging onto an ASRock Phantom Gaming ARC A770 (that I picked up during the holiday sales for $300) for a future build, and I'm very grateful for the look-see. It seems like the longer I drag my heels in putting this rig together, the better the A770 becomes. And by all means, please _do_ follow up with more testing/comparisons as ARC's drivers continue to mature. (In the meantime, I'm waiting with bated breath for *Battlemage* to come to market. 🧙🏼♂ )
12900k, 32gb, Z790, and an a770 16gb, build this week from microcenter only 700$ for the components not including case, psu, ssd
Just discovered your Channel looking for Fractal focus 2 case reviews. I like your style, giving prices cheapest option, selected game tests and not too much info, but the relevant info. Keep up the great work 🙌🏻🙌🏻
Thanks a lot. Glad you made your way over. Welcome to the channel!
The latest drivers for my Arc A770 created a couple of errors in Device Manager, showing drivers for 'NF 12C Slave Device' and 'PCI Encryption/Decryption Controller' with the upside-down yellow triangle with the exclamation point inside. It hasn't affected gameplay in Halo MCC or Infinite, so I'll have to see if the next iteration of drivers fixes this.
I ordered a asrock phantom gaming arc a770 last night to replace my rx580 4gb I could’ve spent $400 on a card but I pulled the trigger on this from Amazon. Fingers crossed
So you think the A770 is good with a 12600kf for 1080p gaming and CAD? Other option is 4060
I've heard from various anecdotes that results can vary a lot depending on the game where it can perform like a 3070 while in others more like a 3050. The potential is there though. Hopefully they continue to improve across the board. Good to see a 3060 is still not a bad card in 2024. Hoping I can get a few more years out of mine
Yep, the 3060 definitely aged better than the Ti and 3070’s. I’m very impressed with how well intel has done with their first attempt at a dedicated GPU lineup. Can’t wait to see what they come up with next!
Colour me impressed and for the price these cards aren't too bad. I've been seeing a lot of news about the driver updates and each time they always say a high % of performance. Amazing what drivers can do to bring out the best in the hardware.
For sure! I totally agree. That’s why I had to check it out for myself. I wanted to see how good things have gotten
Please do a video on XeSS 1.3. That also seems to have made great inroads for Intel recently, and I've seen reviewers says it's almost on par with the latest version of DLSS 3, and way ahead of FSR 2.1
I can try
Just curious, was the bench motherboard/CPU capable of BAR, which is a necessity for intel Arc?
Yes it was, and it was turned on. I forgot to mention that.
I hope that one day the arc will be able to be used for workshop stuff
Quick question - 🤔 Can we install the Asus Predator Arc A770 graphics card with the Ubuntu 22.04 Operating system? I see no Linux drivers on the Asus website for ARC 770. Is there any way to use this Graphic Card with Ubuntu? I appreciate your input. Thanks!
Don't need install separately, just update the system, the driver comes in the Linux Kernel mesa-driver.
Can an 750 run ultra-modded skyrim?
There is difference between the stock fan curve on Nvidia and current gen AMD. Nvidia card seems to go panic mode when the temp reach 70c while AMD having more headroom well into mid 80c. 79c on Nvidia means the open air cooler is a lot more worse in this setup.
I own a 7900 XTX and I’m considering buying the 770 as I find it just be a very interesting GPU with an interesting architecture sort of reminds me of old AMD cards
This video is EXACTLY what I was looking for. Thanks, man! Guess an A770 is going in my girlfriends ITX build.
Nice! What COU are you pairing with it?
12gb vram is where the 30xx and 6xxx cards should have based lined while 16gb vram for the 40xx and 7xxx should have base lined with where software is heading at its rate. Intels A770 is a welcome sitting at under $300 with 16gb vram.
I'm not a gamer, working strictly office environment, self-employed. BUT, I'll be running 2xHP P34hc G4 WQHD 34" ultrawide curved monitors. Do you think the A750 will be enough, or should I get the A770? Thanks, T.
An A580 would be fine
I see that the arc cards are still using over 40 watts on idle. I hope that gets fixed with Battlemage.
For sure. If they can get the power consumption under control and improve performance, they’ve got a real shot! As long as they don’t get carried away with the price
Actually it's more than that.
The software only reports the GPU chip power draw, you can sum ~30W from the memory bank, because it always run at full speed.
Would you reccomend this card with a i3 12100f
am also using a 550w psu
Sure thing. This is a great GPU and you could always update your CPU later
Does anyone know if the a750 play portal non RTX and possibly portal RTX
Portal 1, 100%, RTX maybe, the 770 cannot play it super well from what I've heard, but it might get you around 30ish. Again portal rtx is more for NVIDIA users.
How smooth are Arc cards in Fortnite? Any stuttering, crashes, or random graphics glitches?
Nope, it was great!
That's reassuring, I've seen older videos of Arc cards struggling with Fortnite. I want to build my next PC with Battlemage so I can't wait for more details to come out.
The fact that this is intel’s technology from over a year and a half ago, it being their first gpu, and still being able to compete with the modern options like nothing really shows how good intel did for their first card. And we keep getting more from it with each update. Idk why it doesn’t get enough attention. Hope they don’t end these cards
they ended their own card lineup(stock card) but the gpu chip (the core) is still being made for 3rd party board partners like Acer for example.
Would you suggest buying this Intel card or a ASrock RX7600XT 16gb steel legend ?
Depends on the rest of your setup. What CPU would you pair with this? And what resolution are you playing at?
Oh okay 👍 I’m going for 1080p to 2k resolution for now with some okay fps I’m not expecting the world from a budget gpu I also only have a sceptre 1080p monitor with 165hz that’s why I don’t want to buy something more expensive but hopefully after get something better , and I’m trying to pair it with a Ryzen7 5700G or X depending on availability.
Is this an upgrade or brand new build?
I also hear that despite how beautiful the ASrock rx7600xt steel legend is and the upgrade in VRAM it still won’t be justified paying the extra price if the VRAM won’t be able to be utilized due to the 128bit memory bus , but also watched videos in comparison it’s not too shy of the intel arc a770 and the 4060 fps in most games with the newest drivers from intel I guess you can it’s a pickle to choose and find what graphics card are good and which are just rendered useless as an upgrade or worth paying for an “upgrade” / better!
@@DannysTechChannel yes my bad new build brother man I am getting all information so I don’t make a costly mistake in parts and bottle neck components too , also it’s a budget build I’ll drop the links to the fps test that made me lean more to Intel than the. Rx7600xt 16gb
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The ACER Predator Bifrost 16gb card ran hot on my system playing Halo Infinite, and actually thermal-throttled at 90*C. I returned it for the ASRock Phantom Gaming version (for CHEAPER), and it played Halo Infinite at 75*C the entire time.
What case are you using? Might have gotten a bad card
@@DannysTechChannelI'm using a Cooler Master N200 case. Even with a side panel mounted fan blowing on the Predator card, it would still overheat. I have a 240mm AIO on the front panel set to intake, with 2 exhaust fans on top and 1 on the rear. CPU (R7 5800X) doesn't go above 60*C.
Oh yeh. That is an SFF case. Definitely not spacious for airflow or a 225w TDP card
My Acer Bifrost card works similar to yours hitting at least 85C at the stock settings and the blower fan gets somewhat loud as well once it goes above 81C (at 80C or below, the fan is much less audible). I'm using the Asus AP201 case with plenty of ventilation, so I'm surprised it's running that much warmer than the Asrock or Sparkle cards. I've tried limiting board power to 185W and that seems to keep it in the 70's for a slight performance hit, but wishing I didn't have to. It's still a great card and I love it for my daughter's build, but I would have probably gone with the Sparkle OC card for noise / temps if i had to do it all over again. The Acer card looks better though.
3x750.. 2x770 and one 730m here. :-) Yes. I love them. :-)
Nice. That’s dedication
The a770 16gb is a BEAST of a card and it’s run everything I’ve thrown at it, over the year and a half that I’ve had it. Running with a 5900x
🤓🔥🥵
Why do so many "reviewers" emphasize raytracing when discussing Forza Horizon 5? Unless all the official game info is wrong or there has been a silent update ray tracing is not used during actual game play. I'm pretty sure it even says basically that in the options menu.
I only used it in Forza cuz it turns it on when you select high presets. I wanted to keep settings as simple as possible.
ive a a770le they do underclock very well i run mine at 160w without losing any clocks still running at 2400 and believe it or not more FPS, before in cp 73 FPS with underclock 78FPS
Very interesting. I haven’t messed around with intel’s app other than the screen capture. I might have to sit down and try overclocking and undervolting. Thanks for sharing!
@@DannysTechChannel undervolting is easy in arc control just move the power slider back job done.
Need to test at 4K
Sorry. I ran out of time to test it. This is more of a 1080p/entry 1440p card
I cannot wait for my 750 to come! $190 is a steal!
$190?! Nice find. Enjoy!
I love this card! Intel is showing that they are indeed growing and improving this card and thus will be taken seriously in the end. I heard they are creating a different dGPU later on this year too and that will be exciting! I am very happy to see a competitor so we can hopefully get a handle on the extreme pricing of GPUs. That is one reason why I could not go with Nvidia at all even though I think they have good cards. Way too pricey and too much market power and then they charge much higher than they need to. I can't blame them if people are willing to pay those insane prices.
I would love to see another contender too like Qualcomm etc create a dGPU. They can even keep the mobile name since I like the name Adreno. Maybe Adreno D or something like that. Something that could be super efficient and yet still powerful I could see them doing if they put resources into it. I truly have a feeling they could pull it off. Just wishful thinking I suppose, but not impossible. If there was that much competition the market would shake up a bit and it would benefit everybody instead of just Nvidia and partially AMD. I don't think anybody would complain about a price drop, especially from Nvidia.
AMD does do a good job and a lot of friends of mine who use open source operating systems prefer their cards since Nvidia drivers can be a pain. I'll need to try the a770 with open source myself since I don't know if it's the same experience. I'm hoping that Intel will also provide great open source support which would again place Nvidia in last place when it comes to open source support, especially if you have a mobile Nvidia laptop as Optimus doesn't always work well. Keep it up Intel!
5:35 really should have used RX 6600 not RX 7600, my opinion that's an advantage over the others. RX 6600 is more inline with the Arc 7 & RTX 30 series.
Intel has improved a lot and all I can say is there is more to come the are now balancing the boat ,truth be told 😂😂😂😂😂 somebody will lost the champion title of budget card I will prefer Intel over AMD because they are faithful to there drivers good one bro.
Unlike nVidia and Radeon, Intel GPU's have a great team who update their software with great regularity.
i only paid $180 for my a750 back on cyber monday.
Nice deal! Hope you're enjoying it
Intel only has to compete with AMD for the second place, and they are doing a great job at that. They also have much better, cleaner drivers now than both AMD and Nvidia.
One other thing Intel cards seem great at is non-gaming, AI workload, like Stable Diffusion, an area in which AMD simply can't compete at the moment. There are now workarounds for some AMD cards, like ZLUDA (basically a CUDA emulator), but it's been hit and miss - mostly the latter.
in next 2 years, Nvidia & AMD gonna have serious issues with Intel. Intel has learned A LOT from this first gen, 2nd gen should hit the market real hard!
For price of A770 from returns I can get used RX 6800. Intel need lower prices even more to be consider.
Many PC gamers would rather buy new. Yes, used deals can be amazing and I’ve had my fair share of good scores.
A770 16GB is only $279.99 the 6800 is trash you AMD fanboy.
@@JayzBeerz A770 losing even to Rx 6700Xt in games
@@kkrolik2106 good so go buy one
Wrong CPU used for the INTEL. It hinders the performance fair bit. INTEL is all about pairing to the CPU. Also has to be said I get those 1440p FPS numbers for the A770 at 4k. Another point is you can't compare INTEL FPS to FPS. For example 4070ti gives a great result on 1440p but 192 bus from the 4070ti can't do 4k nor can 128 bus from the 3060. Yes on paper 4070ti can do twice the FPS compared to A770 but it is a stuttery mess and won't give a good experience. A770 most is playable and with RT. I'm just pointing to a card that is leaps over the RX 7600 and RTX 3060. XeSS XMX that is for INTEL cards and XeSS DP4A for customer open source cards. The programs are not the same. Two different programs and I have no idea why would they name them so similar and confusing. But XeSS XMX is as good as DLSS but XeSS DP4A is not. But when you test with AMD CPU it will not work optimum. To understand the architectures of INTEL vs AMD/Nvidia is vital when comparing. INTEL pairs with the CPU splitting the tasks between GPU/CPU and then bringing it together to make a frame with lot less queuing that results very small frame time. AMD/Nvidia do most of the executions in the GPU and this results queuing and inconsistency, longer frame time and broken frames. Result is that you need twice as much FPS and even then it will stutter from bad frame time. People and reviewers haven't caught up to this yet because there has always been just two with very similar architecture. Hence INTEL PresentMon to tune and spot bottlenecks and to find the best pairing. The point made is that if ARC is level in comparison in reality it is hitting lot higher. You can see this well if you compare the 1080p/1440p/4k. More you demand less the drop compared to the competition. You can think this as follows. 1080p you get 100FPS but when you double that you get 200FPS that might be the limit for the game. So you are getting the max offered. 1440p you might get 80FPS but when you double it you get 160FPS. And as follows for 4k similar number would be 70FPS that doubles to 140FPS. This is the weird observation that everyone can make that when the load gets bigger and more is demanded less the FPS drops. Reason why I'm talking "doubling" is because you also have two elements CPU and GPU both working hard because of the different architecture. You get 1 Frame but in reality if compared you can count that as double as 2. So if the frame limit of the game is 200FPS we only see 100FPS from INTEL that is still matching the performance of 200FPS from other cards. The proof also lies on the RT. As you know RT drops the FPS lot less on INTEL. That number also should be doubled and suddenly it is matching the competition with the extra workload. Pretty hard to explain to be honest but when you figure it you also see where the ARC is actually hitting. It might not be actually double but it wouldn't be far from it.
vc quer dizer que a arc a770 funcionaria melhor com uma cpu intel?
@@xslockdown Yes. It has been proven to be so. Also the gap is getting wider as the drivers mature. My opinion is and it is just an opinion that when the ARC was first launched it had to work with AMD and INTEL CPU equally to sell. But now it has been shown that with INTEL there is good gain and it seems that we will see this more with Battlemage. Look into Intel® Application Optimization (APO) that you get with 14th gen INTEL CPU. Not big yet but it is coming. The small sample we have indicates 10-50% jump in performance and this would also include Alchemist. ARC is pretty cheap compared and the performance is equal to GPU's that are double the price. I see this because INTEL uses the ARC for marketing their CPU's.
@@xslockdown My friend is using ryzen 5700 and I am using intel arc 750 with 12600k. My performance values are clearly better.
The 770 is a beast if an actual experienced person does the build, otherwise people shove a card in something and complain it doesn't run good and crashes.
@@GoonyMclinux People can say whatever they want about FPS but it seems you need twice from AMD/Nvidia to match the experience INTEL gives with half the FPS.
No words about cores/graphics processers in different cards, poor review.
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CAUTION: IF YOU WANT TO USE A750/A770 TO PLAY ZELDA TOTK OR OTHER SWITHCH GAME WITH YUZU/RYUJINX, STAY AWAY. IT WILL CRASH AND NO RESOLVE SOLUTION!
Welp unfortunately Nintendo nuked yuzu
@@BumpkinBrosyou can still use yuzu for no problem (with GeForce or Radeon graphics card). There is also one fork raised called Suyu, they are continuing yuzu's work and keeps updating.you can google their official website to download it.
I'm liking the A770 for the cheap 16GB VRAM to run LLMs locally for coding now that llama.cpp supports vulkan.
That’s a well performer contender, Intel ARC!!! since NVIDIA GPU prices are a fucking joke😂
it was a garbage, it is a garbage, and it will always be a garbage GPU...simple as that :D