I had a limited edition Vauxhall Cavalier Antibes. Basically left over parts. Had to return it because Ivy was growing in the engine. The clutch snapped. The seat un-clipped, so.... you slid around. Yeah, avoid limited editions. they suck. And then the problems started......
@@damightyshabba439I own the 40 Year Anniversary Golf GTI Clubsport MK7. And trust me if youd be owning that you would know if you were owning a Limited Edition...
Lol probably 50% of Golf 4s are some kind of "limited edition". Which is about the same situation as with these Intel cards. The "limited edition" means nothing because it's the only original edition.
If we want to see some improved GPU competition (including better GPU releases and more competitive pricing), we need to get behind Intel here and let their ARC series get in the game. They have been super responsive and super transparent so far with their driver development, and each new monthly release offers noticeable improvement of something or other.
been watching so many pc builds in preparation to build my first rig and you and tech source have been my best friends lmao, I enjoy yall's work very educational keep doing what you're doing my guy
@@danmar007neither do you 😂 Your comment was more useless and pointless kinda like you. You being negative vs a POSITIVE comment from a SUBSCRIBER literally keeps a RUclipsr going you sound special ed.
A580+ is great if you are still on PCIE 3.0, due to using 16 lanes comparred to these 8 laners: (3050,4060(Ti), 7600(XT), 6600(XT), 6650XT). I'm very glad I returned the $213 RX6600 and got an $152 A750 instead, about a year ago.
@@magnusnilsson9792Not only that, but a lot of older CPU's that are PCIE 3.0 can't implement resizable bar.... Which cripples Arc cards. Definitely better to use an older Radeon or GeForce in these desktops.
@@magnusnilsson9792 whilst you’re not wrong, having just gone through the process of doing this on an X79 board recently, it’s NOT for the average user. Quite a lot of steps to go through, and the average person who just wants to play games will be left confused.
The Arc drivers work best with DX12 and Vulkan. If you have a DX9 game underperforming try running it with the DXVK library which will translate the game to run on the Vulkan API.
@@Miley_00 I would check the benchmarks for the games first and consider the budget. But if you're not on a budget and you need stability, AMD is the best bet since it's been around for longer.
@@4doorsmorewhors DirectX 9 game API's. At launch the drivers were emulated by being translated from DX9 to DX12. They weren't directly DX9 drivers, meaning it was slower and could have issues as a result of emulation. This was later changed to DX9 to DXVK translation for better compatibility. I think they are now producing native DX9 drivers meaning performance is better but there might be compatibility issues since the drivers are new and user feedback is encouraged.
@@PcCentrici dont think thatll ever happen especially with how they kinda suck with cpus atm (no generational improvements from 13th to 14th gen, super power hungry and heat generators). i think theyll just take the
I have a 12700kf and an a770 LE and it’s an absolutely awesome combo in a matx case. Got both for absolutely cheap and it’s probably one of the best mid tier systems I’ve used. I built my wife a 6800xt and a 5600x and I honestly haven’t seen any difference in stability. Next generation of Intel GPUs is definitely something to get excited for.
Had the A770LE since day one, a few teething problems in the early days with a few games, but it's been a great card, Improvements and fixes with every driver release. Was a risky move but thanks to the absolute state of Nvidia's pricing, and the way that both AMD and Nvidia treated their "customers" during the whole covid/bitcoin mining craze ... I decided to just go for it with the Arc because they were the only ones not trying to take the absolute piss, and it was worth the wait. Looking forward to see where they go from here with Battlemage.
Same I had the 16GB model with that glowy stuff on it. One thing Intel wins with against all its competition is definitely the looks department. That and the copper heatsink is pretty hefty.
They've really been working on old games. Alan Wake(2010) originally didnt even run at all. But they listened to user feedback and rolled out a driver update that fixes it.
They might be there with battlage, maybe celestial. Intel at least isn’t gimping their cards by not putting in enough vram and big buses like nvidia is. Let’s hope they have all of the compatibility issues fully resolved soon
Great and thorough review. I am looking at the Asrock A770 16 GB Challenger - looks like same cooler as on this A580. Compared to the Intel Limited Edition, how is the noise levels? Comparable or is it worse on the Asrock??
I just picked up an Asrock Challenger Arc A750 secondhand on eBay for £155… I think I got a bargain! I would’ve preferred an Intel LE card but can’t find them in stock anywhere in the UK.
I am massively confused by the "Lower is better" "Performance per watt" chart. The only sensible unit for such a chart I can come up with is FPS per Watt which of course more would be better. Right, the chart even says its FPS per Watt, so surely you'd want more rather than less?
All about perspective - everyone says the super series cards aren’t anything to get excited about. For me, I’ve upgraded from a 970 and this is after playing on console for so many years - and this 4080 super is mind-blowing. Most content creators have their hands on every card so I can understand given the minimal difference.
@@RomvnlyPlays yep on most of the games I like 1440p native works great without the features so I’m very impressed … but if I already owned a 3080 or something fairly recent, I wouldn’t consider an upgrade tbh
Been using an A770 16gb with a 5900x for almost 2 years and I have not been let down yet. This card and XESS when needed, obliterate everything I throw at it including Helldivers 2 🤘
Really nice work guys!! Interesting to see how the intel cards are doing pretty well now. They're good cards for use with transcoding, hopefully linux support will get better
Not going to read all the comments to find it. Having prefaced my remarks that way: And for anyone sorting by newest - Starfield is a menu bug. Anytime you use it, the performance tanks on ARC. For the A750LE I use A blend of low and medium with XeSS Quality. Then restart the game and don't go in the menu again. Otherwise performance tanks and you have to restart again. It is less than 30 seconds with a 5600X3D 32GB of 4000MT/s synced with FCLK/infinity fabric. Still annoying though. Considering the game was broken on ARC at launch it has come a long way.
I paid $180 US (~142 GBP) for my Asrock A770 months back when Intel's drivers were being trashed and I was collecting parts for a new build. So I'm a bit Happier with my Price to Performance Ratio than buyers today would be. Gambling on Intel is out of character for me as I prefer AMD CPU's, but I felt that Intel was sincere about getting into the GPU market and at that price it was worth the gamble. Thanks for the Video!
If the Arc cards had better drivers, the A770 hardware wise places it around the 6800 xt, but the drivers current state pulls it down to 6650 xt. But the price point is the same as the 6650 xt.
Just incase no one has put this out there. If you make even a single Graphics change in Starfield, you have to reset the game. I don't know why this happens, but on all 5 systems in my house running a wide range of graphics cards this has been the case for me.
I wish you would of tried an actual Old DX9 title like Black and White 2 a DX9b (not C) title from 2005. Something they would not of had any chance to optimize for... but tomb raider and deadspace??? thats like the most obvious things they would and of course they would run.
I have bought the Limited Edition for the 7600X cpu build, love to see a third gpu option along with Battlemage, & Intel Arc is not the best when it comes to drivers am willing to give them a try.
Of the 3 games I primarily play: Final Fantasy XIV is the only one listed as having "optimized driver support." However, Star Trek Online and Star Wars The Old Republic aren't listed anywhere I've seen. Star Trek Online is maxed by the game engine; but, there is a huge difference between the Arc 770 and my old Radeon 580. Also, SWTOR is not listed; but, OMG does it look awesome. As I don't play e-sports titles: I can only go by the 3 games I do play and the Intel GPU has me impressed for sure. If Intel continues its current track: it many actually catch AMD some day.
@@maximus3294 no, I just prefer my AMD card - have you seen Nvidia fanboys. I respect your opinion and I hope you can just respect that I chose AMD over Intel
@maximus3294 I'm just waiting to see when all the driver issues are gonna be gone and when they can compete with high end AMD or Nvidia. They do those things I would definitely consider getting one
If Intel can produce a card that rivals AMD’s 7900XT and can beat it in price, then I’ll show you a card that makes me go from Red to Blue. Have been Green for years but always felt dirty. Happy to be Red again but always hopeful and looking forward to the day I’m Blue at 1440p 170hz
Bro if i am getting arc580 for about half the price of rx6600 then which one should i buy. arc580 is about $125 and rx 6600 is about $241. These are the prices in India so which one should i buy
Yes, personal experience with my A770 16gb. You get good fps for the $ at 1440p, however it won't match something like a 7800xt or 4070, but those got for 500$ in the US. All of the other Arc cards are best at 1080p
if only gaming the a770 is really good but not all games but there is the rx 6700xt less vram but 20 to 30 % better but if u also do anything else than gaming the a770 is still better (actually it could out perform the 6700xt if it gets better drivers support)
I am currently running an ARC A750 LE on a Ryzen 9 5900X. Works like a champ. Not all AM4 boards support Smart Access Memory (AMD's Resizable Bar equivilant), so be aware of what your AMD board does or does not support before you pull the trigger.
@@maximus3294no he’s not fine at all, his temps will be significantly higher which means the cards will either not boost or clock down to compensate, which likely explains why he’s getting strange results when compared with other reviewers.
@@blackbirdpctech kinda stupid to close the side panels, but the case itself is pretty ventilated, it's fine unless the extra 5-10% means a lot to whoever is watching.
@@LorikQuinnmaking mistakes such as this isn’t a problem, what you do when you are made aware is … I would retest and check … pin a note in the comments explaining if there is a difference … it’s not a big deal unless you ignore it and make it a big deal.
coming from a EVGA 1080 Ti the A770 16GB is close to perfect for my use case. not too expensive, better performing in comparison and lower in power consumption -if you care about your electric bills-
As far as your Fortnite numbers are concerned, I noticed you left Nanite Virtualized Geometry On. That's most likely what's tanking your performance. I believe the same thing happened to me, when I was testing out an RTX 2070 Super, and the numbers were way lower than what I'd seen on RUclips. Fortnite has so many settings now, it can really be confusing.
I am planning to get the 770 or wait for the battlemage series. I really want to support intel in this market with Nvidia and AMD overpricing thanks to their duopoly.
I got the A750 for $180 (used deal on Amazon). It's fine for me. I use it for productivity (not video editing) and competitive gaming which usually have no performance issues. In fact, I capped it at 90W. My CPU, tho, is the 14900K which I need more than a fancy GPU, so, priorities...
ive been using an a750 for months now and havent had any problems apart from star wars survivor and starfield which are all fine now. Overall im very happy with my choice which was an upgrade from a 1050ti.
I'm a cheapskate that quite early told my friends that the ARC Alchemist series most probably would have a hard time with the drivers. No matter what the quality of the hardware was the drivers would be crap when the cards were first introduced. Intel proved me right as the drivers were dog poop when they first was released. Now my reason I said they would be bad was that this is a new software stack supporting new hardware. Compare that to Nvidia and AMD and the drivers they use has been developed for decades. Of course the code isn't the same but it has been refined over the years and supports all kind of DX versions and others. Intel on the other hand had to start from scratch and with a limited team of developers and time constraints that's a bad place to bee. Even the drivers for the integrated GPU in their computers has often been accused of being way worse than it should be. Now Intel has proved to get their drivers improved a lot better than I had guessed, but what will really be interesting is to see how good Battlemage cards will be. Initially I guessed that the first cards that would be able to compete with AMD and Nvidia as far as performance and driver quality is concerned was the Celestial series that will come after Battlemage. With the experiences the development team has had seeing the problems for Alchemist they have probably learnt a lot of what the customers demands from these cards. We might just see a very good generation of graphics card with Battlemage. I think the big thing is the driver quality. The hardware is most probably quite good, but without well working drivers that doesn't really matter. I really doubt that Battlemage will be able to meet the fastest cards from Nvidia and probably not AMD. But they don't really have to as long as they can compete in midrange and low range and do so at good prices. Now I'm a bit old and slow. To me mid range should be RTX 4070, RTX 5070, RX 7700 and RX 7800 range. Now this last gen didn't really work that way. The RTX 4060 is about as mid range as Nvidia is concerned. But the performance difference between the 4060 and the 4070 is pretty huge. Not quite as large as the price difference but way too large in my opinion.
I’m routing for intel to take on nvidia and amd but is it likely intel will persevere and keep pushing or will they exit the market like it’s rumoured they will? I hope thats not the case. Keep at it guys
@PC Centric, On Fortnite you shouldn't be using afterburner for FPS you should use Fortnite's in built one. I'm using an I7 12700K with Intel(R) UHD Graphics 770 and I get 90-200 FPS. EDIT: That is on performance mode though. EDIT 2: On direct X 12 I get 30-40 but sometimes drops to 25.
I'm on a 1660 Super and I've been watching things with interest while considering my upgrade options... I'm going to wait for Intel Battlemage until I make my final decision as it's only weeks away if still on track.
@@yad7022Let me know how that goes for you! I just don't know how long far away BM is, so have been pondering just getting an A770... I wish Intel would be more open about it!
What is the AMD equivalent of these ARC GPUs? I need something cheap for productivity and light gaming. Does AMD RX 7000 or 6000 have a better price-to-performance ratio?
I'm stuck between Asus ROG Strix G16 and Lenovo Legion Pro 5i. Can you help? Asus: i7-13650HX, RTX 4060, 512GB SSD, 16GB RAM Lenovo: i7-13700HX, RTX 4060, 1TB SSD, 16GB RAM. Which one should I choose? Both are similarly priced in my country. However, I've heard about Asus having a CPU heating issue. Could you compare them in terms of material quality, cooling, display, and performance? I am an architecture student, mainly using 3D programs and occasionally playing AAA games.
From only the information you posted here, the Lenovo has a better CPU, more storage, and everything else is the same. But, there isn't much information to go on from your post, besides the processor. Keep in mind that the mobile versions of the 40 series GPUs are NOT the same as the desktop versions, and will be limited on power to reduce heat and power draw so you can not look at benchmarks of a desktop 4060 and think it applies 100% to a laptop.
From 1080p to 1440p INTEL is more competitive. From 1440p to 4k it is still capable and drop is less than you expect. Crazy card that seems to be getting better more you demand.
Why be an earlier adopter of this consumer unfriendly Intel company. I do remember the 2015 bad laptops where Intel limited the amount of CPU cores they would sell you for your money spent. Luckily AMD put them in there rightful place
Intel arch a580 cost 211 dollars, rtx 3050 cost 238 dollars, rtx 3060 cost 350 dollars, rx 6600 cost 264 dollars and rx 6700 non xt cost 360 dollars. All of these cards prices new in my country(South Africa) and the intel arch A580 being the cheapest out of all of them.
I assure folks soon it will be. Intel cpu will perform very well with intel arc and amd cpu will perform very well with amd rx. Nvidia will have thier own cpu's
Your Fortnite benchmark was very flawed because of your graphics settings. The biggest problem with those was having Nanite Virtualized Geometry turned on the whole time (and even high virtual shadows with it), that makes a BIG impact in fps and if you are aiming for competitive experience it should be turned off unless you have a high-end gpu. Also I would prefer using native resolution with TAA instead of 66% scaling with TSR, but I guess that doesn't matter so much fps wise. But anyway that +100 fps target of yours would have been easily achieved simply by disabling Nanite.
'limited edition' isn't worth much in the UK, since there are actually more 'limited edition' Vauxhall corsas on UK roads than the normal ones 🤣
I had a limited edition Vauxhall Cavalier Antibes. Basically left over parts. Had to return it because Ivy was growing in the engine. The clutch snapped. The seat un-clipped, so.... you slid around. Yeah, avoid limited editions. they suck. And then the problems started......
@@damightyshabba439I own the 40 Year Anniversary Golf GTI Clubsport MK7. And trust me if youd be owning that you would know if you were owning a Limited Edition...
Lol probably 50% of Golf 4s are some kind of "limited edition". Which is about the same situation as with these Intel cards. The "limited edition" means nothing because it's the only original edition.
Been testing an Arc a770 for about 6 months now its a great card.
Which motherboard do you use with this graphic card?
@@Utxavgo for anything like B550 or above but make sure to pair it with Intel i5 CPU or more only
@@prateekpujara5742 thanks you so much
my main question how does it perform in blender and after effect. i've heard its better in production work than nvidia so is it ?
@@prateekpujara5742it will not perform in ryzen cpu???
If we want to see some improved GPU competition (including better GPU releases and more competitive pricing), we need to get behind Intel here and let their ARC series get in the game. They have been super responsive and super transparent so far with their driver development, and each new monthly release offers noticeable improvement of something or other.
Go Intel keep pushing your drivers on ARC GPUs!
been watching so many pc builds in preparation to build my first rig and you and tech source have been my best friends lmao, I enjoy yall's work very educational keep doing what you're doing my guy
@@danmar007neither do you 😂 Your comment was more useless and pointless kinda like you. You being negative vs a POSITIVE comment from a SUBSCRIBER literally keeps a RUclipsr going you sound special ed.
A580+ is great if you are still on PCIE 3.0, due to using 16 lanes comparred to these 8 laners: (3050,4060(Ti), 7600(XT), 6600(XT), 6650XT).
I'm very glad I returned the $213 RX6600 and got an $152 A750 instead, about a year ago.
Not sure I'm following your comment. The a580 is a pcie 4.0 device so you would actually lose performance on a pcie 3.0
@@SystemWave Not really since it uses all 16 lanes. The difference is negligeble on 16 lanes, maybe 1% performance loss.
@@magnusnilsson9792Not only that, but a lot of older CPU's that are PCIE 3.0 can't implement resizable bar.... Which cripples Arc cards. Definitely better to use an older Radeon or GeForce in these desktops.
@@LakeHowellDigitalVideo ReBar can be used on PCIE 2.0 and can be run on sandy bridge like the i3 2100.
@@magnusnilsson9792 whilst you’re not wrong, having just gone through the process of doing this on an X79 board recently, it’s NOT for the average user. Quite a lot of steps to go through, and the average person who just wants to play games will be left confused.
My next gpu could well be an intel one. Can’t wait to see what they come up with on battlemage
Give editor Carl bigger portions this month.
The Arc drivers work best with DX12 and Vulkan. If you have a DX9 game underperforming try running it with the DXVK library which will translate the game to run on the Vulkan API.
You think Arc770 or Rx7600?
@@Miley_00 I would check the benchmarks for the games first and consider the budget. But if you're not on a budget and you need stability, AMD is the best bet since it's been around for longer.
DX9?
@@4doorsmorewhors DirectX 9 game API's. At launch the drivers were emulated by being translated from DX9 to DX12. They weren't directly DX9 drivers, meaning it was slower and could have issues as a result of emulation. This was later changed to DX9 to DXVK translation for better compatibility.
I think they are now producing native DX9 drivers meaning performance is better but there might be compatibility issues since the drivers are new and user feedback is encouraged.
@@tauheedulali2652 what games are DX9, I have never seen that.
I just bought an Intel Arc 750 for $144. It's really cheap in my country, Taiwan! Can't wait to see how it performs
I am worried intel is getting out of the market altogether, I hope they push through. I think if they stick with it market share will grow.
I think they'll get bigger than AMD eventually, but it might take 10 years to get there
@@PcCentrici dont think thatll ever happen especially with how they kinda suck with cpus atm (no generational improvements from 13th to 14th gen, super power hungry and heat generators). i think theyll just take the
@@kwan2fy729totally agree.
Nice for budget builds but...
@@kwan2fy729Intel better than AMD CPU’s get off of drugs.
I'm extremely excited to see battlemage! They aren't getting out of the market 😂 they literally are releasing handhelds with Intel chips
Would love to se the A770 16gb cards go down a litle bit more and they will be 👌
Currys have the Predator edition one in for £230. Put it in my new build now and it's immense for the money.
6:27 A man of culture playing Returnal!
I have a 12700kf and an a770 LE and it’s an absolutely awesome combo in a matx case. Got both for absolutely cheap and it’s probably one of the best mid tier systems I’ve used. I built my wife a 6800xt and a 5600x and I honestly haven’t seen any difference in stability. Next generation of Intel GPUs is definitely something to get excited for.
I recently upgraded frpm a RX550 to an Intel Arc A380 Elf. Great bang for the buck.
Intel Arc FTW
Had the A770LE since day one, a few teething problems in the early days with a few games, but it's been a great card, Improvements and fixes with every driver release. Was a risky move but thanks to the absolute state of Nvidia's pricing, and the way that both AMD and Nvidia treated their "customers" during the whole covid/bitcoin mining craze ... I decided to just go for it with the Arc because they were the only ones not trying to take the absolute piss, and it was worth the wait.
Looking forward to see where they go from here with Battlemage.
Same I had the 16GB model with that glowy stuff on it. One thing Intel wins with against all its competition is definitely the looks department. That and the copper heatsink is pretty hefty.
Nah bruh, I’m returning my A770, until intel actually optimizes arc properly for older games that use openGL, DX10, 11 and add VR support
Wise man don’t be a beta tester
They have done a ton of updates lately. What games are you still having trouble with? You need a newer mobo that supports ReBar
Use DXVK and you're golden.
They've really been working on old games. Alan Wake(2010) originally didnt even run at all. But they listened to user feedback and rolled out a driver update that fixes it.
The A380 is my daily driver now, the A750 is my wall deco.
Real Intel chads rock the Arc A310
For the price and the performance increases over time, the card indeed is a good option.
My brother PC Centric
They might be there with battlage, maybe celestial. Intel at least isn’t gimping their cards by not putting in enough vram and big buses like nvidia is. Let’s hope they have all of the compatibility issues fully resolved soon
1440p master race. A huge upgrade over 1080p and worth it 👌
I think I might build an Intel Ark pc just for the fun of it. Nice video PC Centric.
Great and thorough review. I am looking at the Asrock A770 16 GB Challenger - looks like same cooler as on this A580. Compared to the Intel Limited Edition, how is the noise levels? Comparable or is it worse on the Asrock??
I just picked up an Asrock Challenger Arc A750 secondhand on eBay for £155… I think I got a bargain!
I would’ve preferred an Intel LE card but can’t find them in stock anywhere in the UK.
I am massively confused by the "Lower is better" "Performance per watt" chart. The only sensible unit for such a chart I can come up with is FPS per Watt which of course more would be better. Right, the chart even says its FPS per Watt, so surely you'd want more rather than less?
Sorry, that's an error, should be Watts per performance
All about perspective - everyone says the super series cards aren’t anything to get excited about. For me, I’ve upgraded from a 970 and this is after playing on console for so many years - and this 4080 super is mind-blowing. Most content creators have their hands on every card so I can understand given the minimal difference.
Mhm. If you went from low end or older generations you will be quite pleased. Only the spoiled gamers care
@@RomvnlyPlays yep on most of the games I like 1440p native works great without the features so I’m very impressed … but if I already owned a 3080 or something fairly recent, I wouldn’t consider an upgrade tbh
@@BoogersAndMilk it’s like getting the latest phone when you have last year’s model. Minor upgrades to the product line don’t warrant a new phone.
Intel Arc works well for me with most modern games. I do plan to upgrade to the challenger series soon.
QUIT TELLING THE COUNCILS SECRETS
Been using an A770 16gb with a 5900x for almost 2 years and I have not been let down yet. This card and XESS when needed, obliterate everything I throw at it including Helldivers 2 🤘
Performance per watt - *LOWER* is better (FPS per watt). You sure about that?!?!?
its nice to see a reasonably priced pc
Just got an A580 for $149.99 USD.
Really nice work guys!! Interesting to see how the intel cards are doing pretty well now. They're good cards for use with transcoding, hopefully linux support will get better
6:48 this is one of the small bits of editing that i love to see
ARC is great and the performance is good!
Not going to read all the comments to find it. Having prefaced my remarks that way: And for anyone sorting by newest - Starfield is a menu bug. Anytime you use it, the performance tanks on ARC. For the A750LE I use A blend of low and medium with XeSS Quality. Then restart the game and don't go in the menu again. Otherwise performance tanks and you have to restart again. It is less than 30 seconds with a 5600X3D 32GB of 4000MT/s synced with FCLK/infinity fabric. Still annoying though. Considering the game was broken on ARC at launch it has come a long way.
I paid $180 US (~142 GBP) for my Asrock A770 months back when Intel's drivers were being trashed and I was collecting parts for a new build. So I'm a bit Happier with my Price to Performance Ratio than buyers today would be. Gambling on Intel is out of character for me as I prefer AMD CPU's, but I felt that Intel was sincere about getting into the GPU market and at that price it was worth the gamble.
Thanks for the Video!
Fortnite is very demading at max settings.
21:10 Your chart should be "higher is better" because more FPS per Watt = more efficient.
was gonna do an arc build but could never get the card in so i did a 4060 instead lol only like 100$ more than the a750 and runs way better
If the Arc cards had better drivers, the A770 hardware wise places it around the 6800 xt, but the drivers current state pulls it down to 6650 xt. But the price point is the same as the 6650 xt.
Just incase no one has put this out there. If you make even a single Graphics change in Starfield, you have to reset the game. I don't know why this happens, but on all 5 systems in my house running a wide range of graphics cards this has been the case for me.
I wish you would of tried an actual Old DX9 title like Black and White 2 a DX9b (not C) title from 2005. Something they would not of had any chance to optimize for... but tomb raider and deadspace??? thats like the most obvious things they would and of course they would run.
7600XT is just too good especially with FG in any game.
Benchmarking fortnite on high to epic settings should be a crime💀
i love your chassis im a fan of mesh design too 😆
I have bought the Limited Edition for the 7600X cpu build, love to see a third gpu option along with Battlemage, & Intel Arc is not the best when it comes to drivers am willing to give them a try.
Hope to see review battlemage intel when it arrives sometime in 2024
Of the 3 games I primarily play: Final Fantasy XIV is the only one listed as having "optimized driver support." However, Star Trek Online and Star Wars The Old Republic aren't listed anywhere I've seen. Star Trek Online is maxed by the game engine; but, there is a huge difference between the Arc 770 and my old Radeon 580. Also, SWTOR is not listed; but, OMG does it look awesome. As I don't play e-sports titles: I can only go by the 3 games I do play and the Intel GPU has me impressed for sure. If Intel continues its current track: it many actually catch AMD some day.
Still sticking with AMD
brand loyalty is stupid and however you feel about a company's practices should not influence your reading on their product's value
@@maximus3294 no, I just prefer my AMD card - have you seen Nvidia fanboys. I respect your opinion and I hope you can just respect that I chose AMD over Intel
@maximus3294 I'm just waiting to see when all the driver issues are gonna be gone and when they can compete with high end AMD or Nvidia. They do those things I would definitely consider getting one
@@FantomMisfit exactly
If Intel can produce a card that rivals AMD’s 7900XT and can beat it in price, then I’ll show you a card that makes me go from Red to Blue. Have been Green for years but always felt dirty. Happy to be Red again but always hopeful and looking forward to the day I’m Blue at 1440p 170hz
The A750 Limited Edition is still on the shelves because people went for the A770 Limited Edition and the AIB editions.
Albino I like how you show the Price of items unlike other Vids
Bro if i am getting arc580 for about half the price of rx6600 then which one should i buy. arc580 is about $125 and rx 6600 is about $241. These are the prices in India so which one should i buy
A580 100%. That is a great price for it.
Do intel arc gpus pair well with ryzen 7 7700, and do they play games well at 1440p?
Yes, personal experience with my A770 16gb. You get good fps for the $ at 1440p, however it won't match something like a 7800xt or 4070, but those got for 500$ in the US. All of the other Arc cards are best at 1080p
if only gaming the a770 is really good but not all games but there is the rx 6700xt less vram but 20 to 30 % better but if u also do anything else than gaming the a770 is still better (actually it could out perform the 6700xt if it gets better drivers support)
I am currently running an ARC A750 LE on a Ryzen 9 5900X. Works like a champ. Not all AM4 boards support Smart Access Memory (AMD's Resizable Bar equivilant), so be aware of what your AMD board does or does not support before you pull the trigger.
Why is your exhaust fan in your case not spinning? That’s a good way to thermal throttle your gpu so I don’t think your results will be optimal.
literally all 4 sides of the case are ventilated and the heatsink fans are pushing some air around in there. i think he's fine.
@@maximus3294no he’s not fine at all, his temps will be significantly higher which means the cards will either not boost or clock down to compensate, which likely explains why he’s getting strange results when compared with other reviewers.
@@blackbirdpctech kinda stupid to close the side panels, but the case itself is pretty ventilated, it's fine unless the extra 5-10% means a lot to whoever is watching.
@@LorikQuinnmaking mistakes such as this isn’t a problem, what you do when you are made aware is … I would retest and check … pin a note in the comments explaining if there is a difference … it’s not a big deal unless you ignore it and make it a big deal.
I like the in a nutshell posters in the back
coming from a EVGA 1080 Ti the A770 16GB is close to perfect for my use case.
not too expensive, better performing in comparison and lower in power consumption -if you care about your electric bills-
I'll tell you differently, they are not ready yet. Tested 6 games, only 1 ran like it should.
As far as your Fortnite numbers are concerned, I noticed you left Nanite Virtualized Geometry On. That's most likely what's tanking your performance. I believe the same thing happened to me, when I was testing out an RTX 2070 Super, and the numbers were way lower than what I'd seen on RUclips. Fortnite has so many settings now, it can really be confusing.
Love my A770 16gb ¡!¡!
Time change from FINALLY to ALMOST 😅
I am planning to get the 770 or wait for the battlemage series. I really want to support intel in this market with Nvidia and AMD overpricing thanks to their duopoly.
the comment section is being invaded by bots, and they now seem a little more advanced.
have removed some!
Dude you are like the Jacob Collier of hadrware! I love your content!
If ARC is still with us in five years, I will give them a "looksee"....
Just bought the a750 for £150 and it's only 7 months old 👍👌
I seriously looked into getting the A770. The driver address one game at a time. Big improvements but it just isn't there yet.
Got myself a cheap used A770 not that long ago. No issues.
I got the A750 for $180 (used deal on Amazon). It's fine for me. I use it for productivity (not video editing) and competitive gaming which usually have no performance issues. In fact, I capped it at 90W. My CPU, tho, is the 14900K which I need more than a fancy GPU, so, priorities...
um why get the 14900k its same as the 13900k but a bit more expenssive
Once intel starts making high end GPUs I will think about it
ive been using an a750 for months now and havent had any problems apart from star wars survivor and starfield which are all fine now. Overall im very happy with my choice which was an upgrade from a 1050ti.
upgraded from the 1050ti aswell
I'm a cheapskate that quite early told my friends that the ARC Alchemist series most probably would have a hard time with the drivers. No matter what the quality of the hardware was the drivers would be crap when the cards were first introduced. Intel proved me right as the drivers were dog poop when they first was released.
Now my reason I said they would be bad was that this is a new software stack supporting new hardware. Compare that to Nvidia and AMD and the drivers they use has been developed for decades. Of course the code isn't the same but it has been refined over the years and supports all kind of DX versions and others. Intel on the other hand had to start from scratch and with a limited team of developers and time constraints that's a bad place to bee. Even the drivers for the integrated GPU in their computers has often been accused of being way worse than it should be.
Now Intel has proved to get their drivers improved a lot better than I had guessed, but what will really be interesting is to see how good Battlemage cards will be. Initially I guessed that the first cards that would be able to compete with AMD and Nvidia as far as performance and driver quality is concerned was the Celestial series that will come after Battlemage. With the experiences the development team has had seeing the problems for Alchemist they have probably learnt a lot of what the customers demands from these cards. We might just see a very good generation of graphics card with Battlemage. I think the big thing is the driver quality. The hardware is most probably quite good, but without well working drivers that doesn't really matter. I really doubt that Battlemage will be able to meet the fastest cards from Nvidia and probably not AMD. But they don't really have to as long as they can compete in midrange and low range and do so at good prices. Now I'm a bit old and slow. To me mid range should be RTX 4070, RTX 5070, RX 7700 and RX 7800 range. Now this last gen didn't really work that way. The RTX 4060 is about as mid range as Nvidia is concerned. But the performance difference between the 4060 and the 4070 is pretty huge. Not quite as large as the price difference but way too large in my opinion.
Hey PC Centric. I have a question. Can you stream and play on the Intel Arc A580 at the same time
I’m routing for intel to take on nvidia and amd but is it likely intel will persevere and keep pushing or will they exit the market like it’s rumoured they will? I hope thats not the case. Keep at it guys
I have an Intel A380, planning to upgrade to 7800 XT in future
Boxing ❤❤❤
@PC Centric, On Fortnite you shouldn't be using afterburner for FPS you should use Fortnite's in built one. I'm using an I7 12700K with Intel(R) UHD Graphics 770 and I get 90-200 FPS. EDIT: That is on performance mode though. EDIT 2: On direct X 12 I get 30-40 but sometimes drops to 25.
excited to switch to intel once their battlemage cards drop, especially since my 2080 just died on me after 6 years of service..
Battlemage! 🙌🏼
I’d recommend the 5700xt used over this still
I'm on a 1660 Super and I've been watching things with interest while considering my upgrade options... I'm going to wait for Intel Battlemage until I make my final decision as it's only weeks away if still on track.
Same i was on 1660super and ordered the a770 16gb phantom gaming hope see big cap
@@yad7022Let me know how that goes for you! I just don't know how long far away BM is, so have been pondering just getting an A770... I wish Intel would be more open about it!
@@NZRanger but i got intel cpu i see some test where with ryzen cpu you dont have same thinks but maybe rhey fix it
A770 16gb was THE limited edition, u should know it as content creator
What is the AMD equivalent of these ARC GPUs?
I need something cheap for productivity and light gaming. Does AMD RX 7000 or 6000 have a better price-to-performance ratio?
I'm stuck between Asus ROG Strix G16 and Lenovo Legion Pro 5i. Can you help? Asus: i7-13650HX, RTX 4060, 512GB SSD, 16GB RAM Lenovo: i7-13700HX, RTX 4060, 1TB SSD, 16GB RAM. Which one should I choose? Both are similarly priced in my country. However, I've heard about Asus having a CPU heating issue. Could you compare them in terms of material quality, cooling, display, and performance? I am an architecture student, mainly using 3D programs and occasionally playing AAA games.
From only the information you posted here, the Lenovo has a better CPU, more storage, and everything else is the same. But, there isn't much information to go on from your post, besides the processor. Keep in mind that the mobile versions of the 40 series GPUs are NOT the same as the desktop versions, and will be limited on power to reduce heat and power draw so you can not look at benchmarks of a desktop 4060 and think it applies 100% to a laptop.
The more competition the better. Nvidia prices are just filth!
I have the Sparkle Arc A580 and can get around 70 FPS on Elden Ring and around 100-120 on Fortnite
From 1080p to 1440p INTEL is more competitive. From 1440p to 4k it is still capable and drop is less than you expect. Crazy card that seems to be getting better more you demand.
just out of curiosity, is optimization an important factor? especially with the playstation ports.
Why be an earlier adopter of this consumer unfriendly Intel company. I do remember the 2015 bad laptops where Intel limited the amount of CPU cores they would sell you for your money spent. Luckily AMD put them in there rightful place
Evga rtx 3070 xc3 ftw
What about VR ? I wish people tested VR performance
From what I saw in their discord, it's still under development. Games like bonelab might stutter while others work fine.
I might buy one if it’s good for streaming and recording from a second computer for my main
Intel arch a580 cost 211 dollars, rtx 3050 cost 238 dollars, rtx 3060 cost 350 dollars, rx 6600 cost 264 dollars and rx 6700 non xt cost 360 dollars. All of these cards prices new in my country(South Africa) and the intel arch A580 being the cheapest out of all of them.
I just bought one.
I used it about 4 days and had to send it back.
Drivers are just not compatible with, pretty much anything.
I'm just waiting for the Battle Mage GPUs to drop!
you got your tax and no tax prices back to front
I assure folks soon it will be.
Intel cpu will perform very well with intel arc and amd cpu will perform very well with amd rx.
Nvidia will have thier own cpu's
Your Fortnite benchmark was very flawed because of your graphics settings. The biggest problem with those was having Nanite Virtualized Geometry turned on the whole time (and even high virtual shadows with it), that makes a BIG impact in fps and if you are aiming for competitive experience it should be turned off unless you have a high-end gpu. Also I would prefer using native resolution with TAA instead of 66% scaling with TSR, but I guess that doesn't matter so much fps wise. But anyway that +100 fps target of yours would have been easily achieved simply by disabling Nanite.