Lars handed me a cassette on Saturday night 3/19/83 (altho it was recorded in their infamous garage on 3/15 according to the label) when we interviewed them and played both these songs that night on KUSF at 3am...Nobody outside the Bay Area (& only ten or so people there) had heard it yet...James, Lars & I talked all thru both songs over the air - so no one could bootleg it! Who would do that we laughed...
When I hear this demos of Mustaine era I get why he got so hurt when being fired, they had something incredible to be released and suddenly all that turned off for him and had to start from zero. I understand the reasons why he got fired tho.
It's interesting how you can hear his and James rhythm playing separately here. The only metallica stuff that would have that again was load and reload.
Totally. Even if you skip over the solo, you can instantly tell it's him from the bite in his tone and the little vibrato he adds to his power chords in the verse riff. It's a rare talent to have a style and tone that is so immediately recognisable, especially on rhythm.
In 0:34 he used a similar solo in Peace Sells' live performance at the Phantasy Theatre in Cleveland around 1987 (the timecode for the live performance is 2:08) Even if you can’t say it is the same, it is very similar.
@louiscfc93 In "No life till leather" they give credits to Cliff but he does not play bass on this Demotape. The only one where you can have Dave Mustaine and Cliff Burton is on the Megaforce Demotape :)
@@imagereflection4826bro like half the first album is Dave's riffs, phantom lord, metal militia, jump in the fire and Mechanix/ four horseman were all Dave's riffs and jump in the fire and mechanix were originally Dave's lyrics
Personally I thing that sounds just like Dave. He did the same climbs and descends as he did in the beginning of the song PSBWB. He descended the same at the beginning of that song just as he does in both solos here.
Lol then you must be a fan of any 12 year old that tries to shred at guitar center then. Both solos were ridiculously off key, with very amateurish techniques. I could do arpeggios before my n*ds dropped, let alone this basic level BS. This is like handing Cobain a guitar and saying "Hey Kurt! Try your best to imitate 'Eruption' by Van Halen!" It is way too easy to impress people these days.
@@electromaniac03 I like Metallica, and Megadeth. But I hadn't heard this demo before, so I thought I'd check it out. Dave was a great riff maker, but a terrible lead player. Mechanix was his best solo in Metallica... and it was still kind of crappy. And I'll pass on dream theater. John Petrucci is just one of those speedsters that looks like a robot when he plays. But his solos are unmelodic and really only impress non guitarists. Shredding is easy once you get the muscle memory down. Just takes time, practice, and patience.
I've always said this about Dave and Kirk's solo's. Kirk's solo's were very polished, very smooth and just had an overall more dynamic tone to it... But Dave's solo's and tones just make Metallica sound so evil, I don't hate either or, I just get why Dave was so pissed about being booted.
Ahhh, the week or 2 that Dave and Cliff were in the band together (I think it was actually about a month)... can anyone really imagine Dave and James coexisting in this band together? James had to get this guy outta there lol
I love Dave but the Kirk solo rules - it is my favorite Metallica solo ever. You can hear Dave's solo, more angular, jagged; Kirk's solo more fluid, dynamic. One style is not better necessarily than the other. But in this song's case, Kirk's is better.
Sorry but Kirk Hammett actually had a better sound for this song. Dave Mustaine is arguably the better guitar player overall, but Kirk had a much more lively feeling
I think this is one thing metalheads dont get. Melody and structure in a solo is the topmost priority, or should be. Mustaine was fast and technical but not one of his solos in metallica were anything memorable. Kirk added lots of hooky phrasing and licks when he redid them and I suspect thats why his lead work appealed to the masses. We dont know if metallica makes it out of the US with Mustaine on leads lol
I personally cant stand Daves solos at this time period. just a bunch of notes tossed together real fast with little structure and about a 3rd of them are out of key. I can here some of the same shit on Killing. Much improvement on peace sells and then on.
Lars handed me a cassette on Saturday night 3/19/83 (altho it was recorded in their infamous garage on 3/15 according to the label) when we interviewed them and played both these songs that night on KUSF at 3am...Nobody outside the Bay Area (& only ten or so people there) had heard it yet...James, Lars & I talked all thru both songs over the air - so no one could bootleg it! Who would do that we laughed...
just reading this comment 8 years after the fact but I would love to hear audio of you guys talking over the tracks on the radio. Haha
I'm with OC, take my money lol
When I hear this demos of Mustaine era I get why he got so hurt when being fired, they had something incredible to be released and suddenly all that turned off for him and had to start from zero. I understand the reasons why he got fired tho.
HE "DIDNT!!!!" MEGADETH
On top of that, Metallica became the biggest metal band in the world.
Thank god for Megadeth tho
@@ali965 only because he was drinking and he was a real one and they couldn’t take that they got to butthurt
It's interesting how you can hear his and James rhythm playing separately here. The only metallica stuff that would have that again was load and reload.
Its just a demo , Mustaine will have improve for the real recording, but he is really good in there what so ever.
TheStarDeth this comment is 3 years too late, but this is that recording.
Mustaine WAS good!!
He's still great with MEGADETH, though!!
Dave´s style is so Megadeth´s...
No
Megadeth’s style is so Dave
@@frfoljek68 yeah
It's amazing hearing Cliff's earliest recordings (this & Whiplash demo)! Specifically in Metallica.
Jesus, Dave's attack is so damn crisp
Totally. Even if you skip over the solo, you can instantly tell it's him from the bite in his tone and the little vibrato he adds to his power chords in the verse riff. It's a rare talent to have a style and tone that is so immediately recognisable, especially on rhythm.
Cliff is the first to have a respectable "no bangs" hairstyle in this vintage photograph.
he has bangs here, just split in the middle
he looked better with bangs imo
@@krzysztof4607 clearly getting away from the hairstyle
@@jasonledyard404 still has it
I like the chorus of the demo version much better
Dave's solo has a little Albert King blues kick to it....nice🤘🏾
James' vocal in this song is impressive! I really like his scream at 1:56 :D
wow that fucking solo by dave there, thats amazing why didnt he re-use it in Megadeth?
Cause kirk stole it?
In 0:34 he used a similar solo in Peace Sells' live performance at the Phantasy Theatre in Cleveland around 1987 (the timecode for the live performance is 2:08)
Even if you can’t say it is the same, it is very similar.
@@axxion231 Kirk made the solo 100 times better, lol.
@@sadsadasdsadasdsadas not in motorbreath. Or jump in the fire
@@axxion231Kirk on KEA was very hit or miss imo
The soloing is so Mustaine
OMG Dave fucking rocks!
Mustaine's solo sounds thrashier
@louiscfc93 In "No life till leather" they give credits to Cliff but he does not play bass on this Demotape.
The only one where you can have Dave Mustaine and Cliff Burton is on the Megaforce Demotape :)
This is the megaforce
In my mind, the 1982/83 demos are the first Megadeth album: Dave Mustaine + James Hetfield + Cliff Burton + Lars Ulrich; the line-up didn't last long
How? Most of the songs were written by James and sung by James. Nothing like megadeth
@@imagereflection4826 this SOUNDS like Megadeth because this demo is dominated by Mustaine's guitar
@@jjrj8568 These are James's riffs and James and Dave are both playing
@@imagereflection4826bro like half the first album is Dave's riffs, phantom lord, metal militia, jump in the fire and Mechanix/ four horseman were all Dave's riffs and jump in the fire and mechanix were originally Dave's lyrics
@@onutube6392 Yea but most of the songs were still written by James and this song is all James's riffs
Personally I thing that sounds just like Dave. He did the same climbs and descends as he did in the beginning of the song PSBWB. He descended the same at the beginning of that song just as he does in both solos here.
love the intro solo
Lol then you must be a fan of any 12 year old that tries to shred at guitar center then. Both solos were ridiculously off key, with very amateurish techniques. I could do arpeggios before my n*ds dropped, let alone this basic level BS. This is like handing Cobain a guitar and saying "Hey Kurt! Try your best to imitate 'Eruption' by Van Halen!"
It is way too easy to impress people these days.
@@justinklinck6575 ....it's simple - he likes the solo. No one cares about technique or what arpeggio you used , it's all about the final result.
@@Maggiethegsd and the final result is sounding like a 12 year old trying to shred at guitar center. Sorry about his sh*t taste in music.
@@justinklinck6575 why are you here then go listen to some dream theater or some shit lmao
@@electromaniac03 I like Metallica, and Megadeth. But I hadn't heard this demo before, so I thought I'd check it out. Dave was a great riff maker, but a terrible lead player. Mechanix was his best solo in Metallica... and it was still kind of crappy. And I'll pass on dream theater. John Petrucci is just one of those speedsters that looks like a robot when he plays. But his solos are unmelodic and really only impress non guitarists. Shredding is easy once you get the muscle memory down. Just takes time, practice, and patience.
This is probably my favorite line-up lol
KILLER VERSION !!! 🤘🏻
Actually Cliff and Dave also played together on the demo "The Horsemen of the Apocalypse"
And 'Whiplash'
cool...history being made. can tell where they were headed. burton is BOOOOOMING! amen. and RIP cliff.
never heard of this before. they kick asses here!!!!!
I love James' aggression. His delivery is so raw.
4:00 I fucking love that
what the fuck are you talking about man!? in the "no life til leather" demo (1982) plays Ron McGovney!! Cliff started to play with them only in 83...
svalvo pikkante the KUSF demo had cliff thi
*tho
burton isnt on "no life til' leather" just so u know
good thing this isn't no life til leather, this is the megaforce demo
@@stedmangg tbf, this was 12 years ago that the dude wrote this, so maybe it wasn't a widely known then
I've always said this about Dave and Kirk's solo's.
Kirk's solo's were very polished, very smooth and just had an overall more dynamic tone to it...
But Dave's solo's and tones just make Metallica sound so evil, I don't hate either or, I just get why Dave was so pissed about being booted.
Dave’s solos would’ve sounded a lot better in a studio, I wish they would’ve recorded kill ‘em all before they fired him
(in the picture) Burton Shirt is great
Isnt Burton, is Ron
That’s Burton.
@@puxocig it's dr burtorium
@louiscfc93 cliff diddnt play on no life til leather, as it clearly states cliff is in the band but diddnt record
Dooms first level 1:50
Ahhh, the week or 2 that Dave and Cliff were in the band together (I think it was actually about a month)... can anyone really imagine Dave and James coexisting in this band together? James had to get this guy outta there lol
@SitotiKurton You respond to a comment i made 2 years ago and think i still think that ? I think you are the dope
I am the dope.
Kirk's is more curvy. Dave's more forward. Kirk's beginning solo in my opinion had more to say than Dave's.
3:26 sounds like part of the bad omen solo
actually mustaine and burton are also on no life til leather.and ye what is kusf
i wonder why cliff and dave are the only ppl not smiling in that picture?
@ScooterAndOtis i know.that comments 2 years old lol
@louiscfc93 lol i always fuckin do that
i reply to really old comments all the time
AWESOME
The Dave solos... Yup.
The Rial Metallica
i know i remebered after i wrote the comment lol
I love Dave but the Kirk solo rules - it is my favorite Metallica solo ever. You can hear Dave's solo, more angular, jagged; Kirk's solo more fluid, dynamic. One style is not better necessarily than the other. But in this song's case, Kirk's is better.
Exactly dude. In the same way on songs like Jump In The Fire and Mechanix Dave's solos sound a bit better.
Because of Wah.
@Foxbody Boogie "without any real choice of notes??" open ur ears fam he's choosing all the right ones lol
I love kirks solos but without daves blueprints they would sound completely different
And my question is, why this is not in no life 'til leather?
Because its megaforce demo
I wrote that comment 3 years ago man.
You wrote this ent 8 years ago man
@@onutube6392 you wrote this 2 months ago
@@avocadocommander you wrote this 22 acacia avenue minutes ago
@thrasherlml comment was made 2 years ago.replying is basically a complete waste of time lol
louiscfc93 and this one is six years old... and I’m replying hahaha
This is 9 years old lol
burton is not on no life til leather AFAIK
I LOLed at that....I know i shouldnt have...
@thrasherlml i do aswell tbh lol
Way better than the final cut!
Sorry but Kirk Hammett actually had a better sound for this song. Dave Mustaine is arguably the better guitar player overall, but Kirk had a much more lively feeling
1:38 E1M1 from Doom
God daves solos are awful here, no structure at all. It was all about how many notes can we cram in here lol
Autotune❤
Intro solo blows nuts
Jesus, what sloppy unmelodic nonsensical solos - thank God they replaced Mustaine with Kirk Hammett.
yeah i love dave but the solos here are not good
good thing he got better as time went on
@@roaming740
His solos on Wake Up Dead at killer. I still prefer Kirk though.
I think this is one thing metalheads dont get. Melody and structure in a solo is the topmost priority, or should be. Mustaine was fast and technical but not one of his solos in metallica were anything memorable. Kirk added lots of hooky phrasing and licks when he redid them and I suspect thats why his lead work appealed to the masses. We dont know if metallica makes it out of the US with Mustaine on leads lol
@@Squall6575 Definitely. Dave never could've written a solo as melodic and soulful as Kirk's intro solos to Fade To Black and One.
because Dave is gonna get kicked out, and Cliff is gonna die.
im joking ofc...
damn that intro solo sounds so flat it doesn't fit at all.. too much technical playing but no soul
Kirks is a lot better
The best shit I heard again.
Lol mustain has no sustain..KIRK DID IT BETTER DRIVING FORCES
Then Exodus would be a million times better to
Never!
I personally cant stand Daves solos at this time period. just a bunch of notes tossed together real fast with little structure and about a 3rd of them are out of key. I can here some of the same shit on Killing. Much improvement on peace sells and then on.
as awesome as it is to hear the early stuff with Dave i have to honestly say Kirk was a better fit for Metallica
Great thing happened when Mustaine got fired he started another Legendary Thrash Metal Band, Megadeth:)
@SitotiKurton You respond to a comment i made 2 years ago and think i still think that ? I think you are the dope