Clive was just a magical natural born master of the groove. Clive easily the best IM drummer. Treated poorly on the way he was fired bc he' was such a lovely bloke no arrogance or pomp.
I don't know what planet you're from, but you're not talking about Clive Burr as the rest of the world is.He was not treated poorly and fired he was treated well and replaced because he could not perform the demanding physical duties of drumming with a band like Maiden with multiple sclerosis. Maybe next time learn a couple facts before you just jump out the window ;of course you could always just watch the Iron Maiden history on RUclips and Clive Burr will tell you himself that he had to recuse himself that he was not up to the task of drumming for a tour
@@danielwalsh4071 his departure from the band had nothing to do with multiple sclerosis. His illness kicked in years later. Then official line was that like Dianno he was overindulging in the usual rock star recreational habits which meant he wasn't performing on stage to the best of his abilities. Steve Harris recalled him playing one gig with a bucket by the kit as he was suffering from the night before. In later years Clive argued that he was ousted because he took time out from the tour schedule to mourn the death of his father. Unlike Dianno he did however remain on terms with the band who provided financial help and performed charity gigs when his MS was diagnosed and got worse.
@@danielwalsh4071 the onset of MS did not befall Clive till around 1995 sir. It was other personal matters that led to his untimely departure. What planet are YOU from.
@@danielwalsh4071 fact Clive become sick in the 90s you doofus. Now get back to your pint size drum kit and let the professionals speak on here. You numpty.
Two completely different drummers and each brought something to the table that the other just couldn't do. Clive's pocket was deep and massive. His lightning-fast right hand was unmatched! Nicko has tremendous chops and a very different approach to his playing. Neither was remotely "better" than the other. Both deserve the highest of praise and respect.
Agreed! Nicko's style is too slick for the first two albums, whilst Clive couldn't do Nicko's crazy chops. "The Number Of The Beast" is where their styles intercept.
@@RGK93Respecting Nicko McBrain but Clive Burr was the best drummer they had because Irons Maiden was already famous with him on the drums!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you want to know kind of what it would’ve sounded like if Clive played on Piece of Mind, just put every song except for Where Eagles Dare on 1.25x speed 😂
Steve and Clive, was a true killer rhytmical section. One of the best in history of metal. Killers was a pre-thrash metal music thanks to these geniuses.
Nicko a ido en constante evolución siempre. Pero Clive Burr era una máquina. Velocidad y precisión sobre humanas. La prolijidad que te IA no se podía creer. Una máquina. El killers fue uno de los 2 o 3 álbums que me hicieron ser metalero desde ese día cuando tenía unos 13 años hasta el día que me muera
We have unknown factors. First When Clive joined band first two album's materials was written so Clive couldn't contribute. On the other hand i think Clive could have been mimic Nicko's style but He did not prefer. Second one is Nicko's performance of first three album's at gigs. For me This the key of comparision. Nicko can not give a same feeling like Clive. technique is one thing, style is something else. I vote for Clive Burr
Sin desmerecer el talento de Nicko pero Clive fue y será por siempre superior! !! E incluso para mí está en el podio de los más grandes bateros de todos los tiempos! !!
Más rápido no siempre es mejor, no imagino a Clive tocando temas como Where Eagles Dare, Seventh son of a Seventh son o Signs of the Cross. Ambos grandes bateristas, pasó lo que tenía que pasar.
I'm a huge Maiden fan and I love both drummers (I'm a semi pro drummer, semi cause I don't do only that for living). I started playing drums mostly because of Nicko. He is very inovative drummer and I think he can play everything, from jazz to heavy metal. I think he was practicing less in late 2000's and his playing became worse in years to come, but his creativity was even better than before so for me, he is the best drummer for IM even after stroke. On the other hand, Clive was heavy and rock drummer who played perfectly songs on the first three albums. Nicko never played like him these songs: wrathchild, the prisoner, iron maiden, the number of the beast, hallowed be thy name, murder in the rue morgue, drifter... He used to overplay some songs or play it in a slower tempo (it is not necessary drummers fault when tempo is slower), I only loved Nicko playing 22 acacia avenue, killers and in some cases children of the damned.. I cannot say Nicko is better or Clive is better, they are different drummers and both are legends.. Long live and stay healthy Nicko! RIP Clive, we will always listen to your outstanding performances and energy!
Nicko's great but I always preferred the first three albums and always preferred Clive...regardless of this video. Bruce is great but I always preferred the Paul era, as long as were on the subject of Maiden.
Same Here!! With Clive and Paul Maiden sounded like a 1970 Firebird revving the engine that u couldn't just duplicate! It was raw, mean and full of fire! Fired on all cylinders and without Clive or Paul in the band, it is like a motor is running without coolant or oil tbh!! The engine doesn't run!
I like IM, the only thing i don't like is Nicko's drumming. Especially on the albums after 2000, it just sounds all the same. I wish they would have found someone more in the same style as Clive.
I have been a fan of the band since 1980. I have seen both drummers live. One of my favourite songs is ‘Phantom of the Opera’. It just doesn’t sound as good when Nico plays it. He just doesn’t seem to have the ‘groove’ or feel that Clive had. That said, Bruce doesn’t sound right singing it, either! Both great drummers, of course…and I hate this idea of one being ‘better’
@DavidYorkshire Listen to Clive's Power and speed on Killers and Numbers of the beast and Nicko's Groove on Piece of Mind, or Powerslave. Is just a matter of listening...
Clive was amazing, but when nicko came along he literally made the drums explode, his tom work is unreal. I love both drummers but to me nicko was the better drummer. When you listen to both drummers isolated drums you can hesr how nicko is just better
Analizando a estos dos moustruos cada cual tiene lo suyo Cliff es simple y bueno Nico sus Solos no entretiene pero su técnica en las canciones son muy inteligentes una obra de arte .
@@hinjurock70Yep. Clive played hard and fast, but Nicko is more sofisticated. I guess you haven't heard any Iron Maiden album after The Number of the Beast...
@@RGK93 I've heard them all, dude. Nicko is technically great, but he doesn't play as powerfully, energetically and as Clive did, and he also lacks his groove.
Perhaps if you some of these comments weren't just strictly based on who you first heard as a drummer they might make more sense. Clive was a very good drummer at the level required at the time. He was very traditional and therefore somewhat predictable. That is not a bad thing. Those are the Bill Wards and Charlie Watts of this world. Then you have your John Bonhams, Ginger Bakers ,Vinnie Appices, Danny Careys, Tomas Haakes, Mike Portnoys, Dave Lombardos and Nikkos. Perhaps a little more circumspection before wildly commenting on who's a better drummer
@@RGK93 I mean tighter, more technically proficient and with more durable arms (e.g. hi hat eighth notes on Wrathchild and Hallowed Be Thy Name versus Nicko’s quarter notes etc)
Harris dropped a bollock getting Nicko in. Steve was blinded by Nicko years before and when they toured together he wanted Nicko in, Nicko is a good drummer, But he just didn't have the Clive metal groove, They say Nicko is more technical, But Clive could do what Nicko does but neater.
Quite possibly depends on when you became a Maiden fan as to who you think was a better drummer. For me the first maiden album I heard was piece of mind….so it’s like Clive who? 😂. Both great drummers but I’m a died in the wool Nicko fan.
I guess the Clive club as being a bettee drummer than Nicko must be drunks too . I started with Clive than all of a sudden Nicko stepped in. As a 14 years old drummer at the time had no problem playing Clive's work on the other hand Nicko had me rewinding non stop ❤
The band would not have progressed as much as they have with Clive. These two videos really are not a fair representation of either player. As others have mentioned, Nicko is warming up while Clive is in mid-concer. Clive was amazing, but Nicko is amazing in different ways than Clive.
EXAMPLE STEWART COPELAND VOTE 17 BILL WARD VOTE 17 CLIVE BURR 15 BOB RONDINELLI VOTE 15 COZY POWELL 15 TOMMY ALDRIDGE VOTE 15 DAVE HOLLAND VOTE 15 RANDY CASTILLO VOTE 14 NIKO BRIAN VOTE 7 .....DO YOU UNDERSTAND ??????
Clive was just a magical natural born master of the groove. Clive easily the best IM drummer. Treated poorly on the way he was fired bc he' was such a lovely bloke no arrogance or pomp.
I don't know what planet you're from, but you're not talking about Clive Burr as the rest of the world is.He was not treated poorly and fired he was treated well and replaced because he could not perform the demanding physical duties of drumming with a band like Maiden with multiple sclerosis. Maybe next time learn a couple facts before you just jump out the window ;of course you could always just watch the Iron Maiden history on RUclips and Clive Burr will tell you himself that he had to recuse himself that he was not up to the task of drumming for a tour
@@danielwalsh4071 his departure from the band had nothing to do with multiple sclerosis. His illness kicked in years later.
Then official line was that like Dianno he was overindulging in the usual rock star recreational habits which meant he wasn't performing on stage to the best of his abilities. Steve Harris recalled him playing one gig with a bucket by the kit as he was suffering from the night before. In later years Clive argued that he was ousted because he took time out from the tour schedule to mourn the death of his father.
Unlike Dianno he did however remain on terms with the band who provided financial help and performed charity gigs when his MS was diagnosed and got worse.
@@danielwalsh4071 the onset of MS did not befall Clive till around 1995 sir. It was other personal matters that led to his untimely departure. What planet are YOU from.
@@danielwalsh4071 fact Clive become sick in the 90s you doofus. Now get back to your pint size drum kit and let the professionals speak on here. You numpty.
@@danielwalsh4071 tomou papudo antes de humilhar alguém seu abestado tomou respostas a altura de sua arrogância Kķkkk
Two completely different drummers and each brought something to the table that the other just couldn't do. Clive's pocket was deep and massive. His lightning-fast right hand was unmatched! Nicko has tremendous chops and a very different approach to his playing. Neither was remotely "better" than the other. Both deserve the highest of praise and respect.
Esse solo aleatório dos dois não serve para fins de comparação... Até pq já vi solos melhores do Nicko McBrain
I can truly rely on above (@pjones)! I love both of 'em, and never could actually tell which one's the better one. ^_^
Mostly true, but Clive had more groove, passion, energy, and aggression - Nicko's style is more technical and restrained.
Agreed! Nicko's style is too slick for the first two albums, whilst Clive couldn't do Nicko's crazy chops. "The Number Of The Beast" is where their styles intercept.
@@williams4901
I disagree - Clive had some serious chops too.
There is a bit of difference here. Nicko is warming up in a rehearsal studio. Clive is probably mid concert
Clive bur He was the best drummer the band had.
No
Clive just suited the band more, niko has more of an ian paice feel to his playing with is great but I prefer Clive
Yeah Nicko has more flair/showmanship but less technical ability than Clive
@@nickslade3978Eu acho que é exatamente o contrário do que disse, Nicko tem mais técnica e o Clive exibição.
clive was very Paice / powell if you hear his soli
Clive was more brutal and extreme than Nicko.
Clive Burr, definitely
Clive Burr was the best Maiden drummer. Sad how he was treated in the end. Di’anno too.
We used to call him Clive Blur cause thats all you see moving behind his drum kit. Simply one of my favorites.
Clive always had that little kid look to him. Even to his death.
Clive Burr
True Maiden fans know Clive was the best drummer they had.
"tRuE MaiDeN fAnS" what a fallacy, Nicko is a great drummer too.
So if you think that Nicko's the better drummer, you're not a 'true Maiden fan'. Riiiight...
I loved Burr drumming in TNOB (my favorite Maiden album) but McBrain is still top tier drummer.
@@RGK93Respecting Nicko McBrain but Clive Burr was the best drummer they had because Irons Maiden was already famous with him on the drums!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@ericsongnrsantanafortus That's the dumbest argument I've heard so far.
If you want to know kind of what it would’ve sounded like if Clive played on Piece of Mind, just put every song except for Where Eagles Dare on 1.25x speed 😂
Nicko doing the gallop beat on the kickdrum. Gets old
Exactly! Nick makes Iron Maiden slower, hard rock band.
Clive Power...
The Best Clive.
clive burrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
I often wonder how Clive would've sounded on The Trooper and Wasted Years 🥁🤔🙄
Like an absolute unit! 🤘
All of Piece of Mind would have soared. Higher than where eagles dare to go.
Clive number one
Clive
Clive all the way and r.i.p.
Two different drummers with different strokes ❤
Clive played circles around Nicko.
Not even close. Clive was tight and fast, Nicko was groovy and more creative.
Nicko is good
Clive the best
Steve and Clive, was a true killer rhytmical section. One of the best in history of metal. Killers was a pre-thrash metal music thanks to these geniuses.
clive
I love Nicko, but Clive for the win, aways!
Clive but it doesn’t mean I don’t also love Nicko.
Not a huge Maiden fan but this guy is a great drummer.
Both are great
Definitely Clive Burr over Nicko
Speed vs Groove. Definitely Nicko over Clive.
You're comparing a warm up with a live performance
True, unfortunately it was the only clip I could find that wasn’t getting Copyright claimed.
@@BWMGuitar Don't compare then
Doesn't matter - compare Killers and Number Of The Beast to any album Nicko plays on. Clive all the way.
Clive's a powerhouse.
Clive was POWERFUL... and made Maiden more exciting and heavy. Spectacular drummer. Done dirty by Steve Harris. Rest in power Clive!
Nicko a ido en constante evolución siempre. Pero Clive Burr era una máquina. Velocidad y precisión sobre humanas. La prolijidad que te IA no se podía creer. Una máquina. El killers fue uno de los 2 o 3 álbums que me hicieron ser metalero desde ese día cuando tenía unos 13 años hasta el día que me muera
No drummer is better or worse than the other, they both have unique styles
Clive!
We have unknown factors. First When Clive joined band first two album's materials was written so Clive couldn't contribute. On the other hand i think Clive could have been mimic Nicko's style but He did not prefer. Second one is Nicko's performance of first three album's at gigs. For me This the key of comparision. Nicko can not give a same feeling like Clive. technique is one thing, style is something else. I vote for Clive Burr
NA NA NA Clive definitely did not mimic Nicko
I like them both - Clive seems to have a little more speed and power, but Nicko seems to play more intricate, complex beats.
Two Legends!
Mcbrain is great, but Clive was the best metal drummer all time.
My favorite members... Clive/Paul/Adrian/Dave and Steve...Killer line up..!!...😊
Sin desmerecer el talento de Nicko pero Clive fue y será por siempre superior! !! E incluso para mí está en el podio de los más grandes bateros de todos los tiempos! !!
Más rápido no siempre es mejor, no imagino a Clive tocando temas como Where Eagles Dare, Seventh son of a Seventh son o Signs of the Cross. Ambos grandes bateristas, pasó lo que tenía que pasar.
I'm a huge Maiden fan and I love both drummers (I'm a semi pro drummer, semi cause I don't do only that for living). I started playing drums mostly because of Nicko. He is very inovative drummer and I think he can play everything, from jazz to heavy metal. I think he was practicing less in late 2000's and his playing became worse in years to come, but his creativity was even better than before so for me, he is the best drummer for IM even after stroke. On the other hand, Clive was heavy and rock drummer who played perfectly songs on the first three albums. Nicko never played like him these songs: wrathchild, the prisoner, iron maiden, the number of the beast, hallowed be thy name, murder in the rue morgue, drifter... He used to overplay some songs or play it in a slower tempo (it is not necessary drummers fault when tempo is slower), I only loved Nicko playing 22 acacia avenue, killers and in some cases children of the damned.. I cannot say Nicko is better or Clive is better, they are different drummers and both are legends.. Long live and stay healthy Nicko! RIP Clive, we will always listen to your outstanding performances and energy!
It's truly amazing how much better Clive got in people's minds after he died.
Going purely off this video Clive burr
Nicko's great but I always preferred the first three albums and always preferred Clive...regardless of this video. Bruce is great but I always preferred the Paul era, as long as were on the subject of Maiden.
Same Here!! With Clive and Paul Maiden sounded like a 1970 Firebird revving the engine that u couldn't just duplicate! It was raw, mean and full of fire! Fired on all cylinders and without Clive or Paul in the band, it is like a motor is running without coolant or oil tbh!! The engine doesn't run!
They're both great but I'll take Clive, thank you.
Comparing a performance to a sound check.
Clive was superior. Greatness
I like IM, the only thing i don't like is Nicko's drumming. Especially on the albums after 2000, it just sounds all the same. I wish they would have found someone more in the same style as Clive.
I have been a fan of the band since 1980. I have seen both drummers live. One of my favourite songs is ‘Phantom of the Opera’. It just doesn’t sound as good when Nico plays it. He just doesn’t seem to have the ‘groove’ or feel that Clive had. That said, Bruce doesn’t sound right singing it, either!
Both great drummers, of course…and I hate this idea of one being ‘better’
Let's stop this show. Results are in and Clive is the winner. 🏆
Popularity doesn't mean anything.
Nicko is Solid and Good
Clive is Groovy！and Great！！
Literally the other way around, Clive = Solid and good, Nicko = Groovy and great.
@DavidYorkshire Literally yes.
@DavidYorkshire Listen to Clive's Power and speed on Killers and Numbers of the beast and Nicko's Groove on Piece of Mind, or Powerslave. Is just a matter of listening...
Fortunately they are so different that it's a false choice, but the first two Maiden albums speak for themselves.
Clive. Nothing against Nicko. But Clive was better.
Faster doesn't mean better.
@@RGK93 Not just talking about speed. If you listen to Maiden's first 3 albums you realize he's more technical than he's given credit for.
Clive Burr!
Genghis khan...
Imo, Nicko was at the right place at the right time. Clive will always the best!
Which drummer is better Clive or Nicko! Difficult decision. Both drummers have pure talent.
Clive : è un treno in corsa . Nicko è un vaporetto lento lento .
Dois grandes bateras.
Clive the best!
And the winner is... Clive Burr!!!
Love Nicko, but Clive had that natural groove, feel, fire and power that u just can't teach!!!
Clive hits your soul. Nikto playing is anemic.
Clive Burr was simply THE BEST DRUMMER EVER !!!!!
Clive was amazing, but when nicko came along he literally made the drums explode, his tom work is unreal. I love both drummers but to me nicko was the better drummer. When you listen to both drummers isolated drums you can hesr how nicko is just better
Big pity they got rid of that metal drummer.
Analizando a estos dos moustruos cada cual tiene lo suyo Cliff es simple y bueno Nico sus Solos no entretiene pero su técnica en las canciones son muy inteligentes una obra de arte .
Clive Burr is just better than Nicko Mcnrain because Clive had more of the agility on the drums then Mcbrain did
Hitting the drums stronger and faster donesn't mean "more agility".
Clive will always be Maiden's best drummer
Clive all the way - way more soul, passion, energy and aggressiveness.
Nicko all the way, way more soul, passion, swing and groove.
@@RGK93
Nope. Clive had more swing and groove as well.
@@hinjurock70Yep. Clive played hard and fast, but Nicko is more sofisticated. I guess you haven't heard any Iron Maiden album after The Number of the Beast...
@@RGK93
I've heard them all, dude. Nicko is technically great, but he doesn't play as powerfully, energetically and as Clive did, and he also lacks his groove.
Nicko pero Clive fue excelente!
Youve got a video of Nicko playing around vs.a real solo.
Biased?
Perhaps if you some of these comments weren't just strictly based on who you first heard as a drummer they might make more sense. Clive was a very good drummer at the level required at the time. He was very traditional and therefore somewhat predictable. That is not a bad thing. Those are the Bill Wards and Charlie Watts of this world. Then you have your John Bonhams, Ginger Bakers ,Vinnie Appices, Danny Careys, Tomas Haakes, Mike Portnoys, Dave Lombardos and Nikkos. Perhaps a little more circumspection before wildly commenting on who's a better drummer
Do you play with drums ?
Or play with yourself more likely.
Bill Ward was great and so was Clive.
Clive's easily the better player, but Nicko's way more charismatic
Both are standout in different ways
Faster doesn't mean better.
@@RGK93 I mean tighter, more technically proficient and with more durable arms (e.g. hi hat eighth notes on Wrathchild and Hallowed Be Thy Name versus Nicko’s quarter notes etc)
Harris dropped a bollock getting Nicko in. Steve was blinded by Nicko years before and when they toured together he wanted Nicko in, Nicko is a good drummer, But he just didn't have the Clive metal groove, They say Nicko is more technical, But Clive could do what Nicko does but neater.
Quite possibly depends on when you became a Maiden fan as to who you think was a better drummer. For me the first maiden album I heard was piece of mind….so it’s like Clive who? 😂. Both great drummers but I’m a died in the wool Nicko fan.
The first Maiden song I heard was Wrathchild, so Clive all the way 🤘
THERE’s NO COMPARISON
CLIVE RULES
I guess the Clive club as being a bettee drummer than Nicko must be drunks too . I started with Clive than all of a sudden Nicko stepped in. As a 14 years old drummer at the time had no problem playing Clive's work on the other hand Nicko had me rewinding non stop ❤
Clive Burr for me. Nick was and is a joke!
The band would not have progressed as much as they have with Clive. These two videos really are not a fair representation of either player. As others have mentioned, Nicko is warming up while Clive is in mid-concer. Clive was amazing, but Nicko is amazing in different ways than Clive.
Nicko all the way!
one was warming up and one was playing a live show... not a fair comparison
These comments are silly. It realy boils down to which era of the band you prefer. Nicko, IMO, fits better with Arry's vision of IM.
Clive burr era sem dúvida melhor q nicko
VOTE CLIVE BURR 15 VOTE BRIAN 7
Different drummers at different points of Iron Maiden. Clive was the start of maiden. Before maiden was polished. And definitely a better drummer.
EXAMPLE STEWART COPELAND VOTE 17 BILL WARD VOTE 17 CLIVE BURR 15 BOB RONDINELLI VOTE 15 COZY POWELL 15 TOMMY ALDRIDGE VOTE 15 DAVE HOLLAND VOTE 15 RANDY CASTILLO VOTE 14 NIKO BRIAN VOTE 7 .....DO YOU UNDERSTAND ??????
Clive.......
Nicko has the better hat.
Its always incredible to me how dying inflates a persons perceived skills
Clive pisses all over Nicko
nicko is a drummer . clive was a hitter
Nicko the best
Love Clive but Nicko is the beast
Dont like nicko
OBVIOUSLY NICKO MC BRAIN❤
Clive will always be maidens drummer to all us earthdogs
Nicko is a better drummer.
Nicko
Whatever option you choose, Clive and Nicko are the best
🤔••••I think this guy escaped from Bellevue
To me Clive Burr, awesome drummer !!!