Same here, just recently discovered a couple of those details when the song came up on the radio while driving, and I went: Why haven't I noticed those things before? Like 40 years later?
Clive was unique. To me, he was a genius. That one offbeat stroke on the snare drum... it's for the ages. No other drummer on earth would have come up with that idea. And that song is a good example for his (kind of) "reverse" style - he put the accents everywhere else than where a "straight" drummer would have put them. My deepest respect to him. R.I.P.
@@crypttonite one hit on the snare drum, and it's during the verses, e.g. when Bruce is singing "night was black... (hit) ... was no use holding back" - the verses are in a 7/4 rhythm (if my counting is right), so that one stroke makes sense. Clive leads the rhythm path. That would be my explanation. Sorry, I'm not an english man but I did my best.
@@richard623 cool, wanted to see if I could hear what you are talking about. Is this definitely Clive’s drum track or is it computer generated isolation?
So much to love here! The double hit on the snare, the flams on the hats in the intro, the dynamics on the kick drum and...there is a punch in! Always was a huge fan of Clive, now even more so.
Clive Burr was a very creative drummer, just the accent on the snare changes the feel of the bar. Quality drummers are hard to find so still ridiculously difficult to believe Maiden would sack Clive Burr. They were never the same after Beast.
@@stephenhuber713 Yes that was much later Desperado came before that and yes sadly he was fired by Maiden “Previously a member of Samson, Burr joined Iron Maiden in 1979. ... Burr was fired from the band in 1982 during The Beast on the Road tour.” Which was an utterly insane decision.
@@stephenhuber713 He did not get sick until 1994. Dianno and Burr added the punk element of early Maiden. Listen to Wrathchild he not only ups the speed he plays those 16th notes one handed.
For anyone wondering, this is definitely Clive. If you played Paiste in the early 80s, you understand. Besides, his style is very obvious here, one very hard to define
Yep I started playing in the mid 80s, you can clearly hear these aren't Zildjian. Bonham, Ian Paice, Stewart Copeland, Nick Mason, etc etc etc you know the list that used Paiste back then and still do, except Bonzo he's playing with Clive in heaven. It also makes me sick to my stomach why Clive was asked to leave. The indulgence's lies really pi$$ me off to this day
@@Twotontessie He wasn't "fired" per se, He was asked to leave. Clive's father died and he wanted time away to spend with family, Steve wanted to keep going and they had word's, Nicko was sitting in for him while he was gone, when he wanted to come back Steve just asked him to walk away so being the humble guy Clive was he said "well I wasn't going to argue the matter if they want me gone I'll just walk away so I did and there was no arguments" The rumours of Clive missing gigs, messing up being drunk and a puke bucket by his drums is just that "rumours",in all of the Beast tour, Killers I as a drummer never heard Clive mess up at all on the contrary! Clive said himself the so called "indulgence's" was bs. There's a couple interview's with Bruce and he said in regards to Clive quote "I didn't like the way the Clive thing went down, not to take anything away from Nicko he's great but Clive was the best drummer this band ever had" There's another one where he's up Steve's arse so was Adrian saying Clive couldn't handle the Rock and Roll lifestyle rubbish. In fact it was Paul that was fired for excessive partying
@@m42037I always wondered about that. All the stuff I have seen on that period of the band when he was in- he was never anything but spot on. Bottom line is that this is Steve’s band. And if he had an issue with Clive’s absence, then he did. And as much as I like Nicko and his playing, Clive will always be the drummer in Maiden. He was a beast of a drummer.
For me Clive Burr was the Ringo Starr of heavy metal, he always came up with those unique recognizable drum beats, plus power and groove. Amazing drummer. R.I.P.
This album is so special to me, the first one I bought with my pocket money and saving school dinner money.When it came out I became obsessed with every beat, word and musical turn.My parents must have thought I was possessed. I love it.
Different styles for sure; Clive is more pure, original, natural and hard hitting. Nicko has more little fills and tends to be more “spread out” on his kit. For me, Steady, solid and a natural groove wins.
The older I get the more I prefer Cilves drumming over Niko. I have trouble listening to the book of souls album because I can tell Kevin Shirley oversampled the drums.
@@CM_CHESS You my friend lack an ear for good production. But you are entitled to your erroneous opinion. Can’t expect everyone to understand matters such as these. Do be well. 😘
Alright musicians, give this a thought. First I must say I read the posts and some of you said how can a band ask this man to leave the band? I completely agree, I think the main man is the one and only Steve, he didn't want to give Clive some time off to spend with family because his father died, I find this sickining. Work work work! The puke bucket and Clive's rock and roll "indulgence's is bull****. I can't believe Adrian said this in a interview not long ago he knows this isn't true. If you Google "Why was Clive Burr asked to leave" Clive came out finally and said the indulgences were completely not true" Now from what I remember Nicko was asked if he wanted the job, he said he didn't want to step on any toes and get in the middle of anything, then he was asked very stern, DO YOU WANT THE JOB OR NO?" He said ok. So I can't blame all on Nicko, would you leave a blues band making peanuts to be in Iron Maiden? Now what I wanted to say to fellow musicians (I started playing drums in 83 at 17) I want to make a comparison. I think Clive Burr and Randy Rhoads were so alike. Two very humble great human beings that were so great and took from us too soon. Clive was asked to leave coincidentally the same year RR died. And when Clive left Maiden the band was different, to me they weren't the same. Ozzy's music the same, when Randy was gone you clearly hear the music was not the same. Two great humble men RIP, you were at the top few of the greatest musicians I ever heard!!
@@ldravet Just before he joined Maiden, he was. He and Clive effectively swapped places (although Clive didn't fully join Trust, he just recorded their subsequent album with them). Pre-Trust, Nicko was working with Pat Travers
@@kiboko_drummer Благодарю! В таком виде партия предстает в ваших видео в абсолютно новом свете, столько нюансов! Чего не услышать на плпстинках кассетах тех лет! Шикарный канал!
Iron Maiden's best drummer in my opinion. Much more creative than his successor. It's a shame he didn't get off the drugs when they told him to. Then MS struck him down. Very sad.
@ Nicko is heavily reliant on cymbals, does use floor toms alot. If you you follow their newer material or watch drum cam of flight of icarus. His use of floor tom is awesome. Its a fill realy it supports his bass drum
@ I see the troll is back criticizing Clive. Let me give you some advice, crawl back to your little stone in the ghetto where you belong, your not welcome here. Clive was superior in speed and Bruce never said no such thing. What he said was quote "Not to take anything away from Nicko he's great but Clive Burr was the best drummer this band ever had"
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Have listened to and played this song 5,000+ times, never heard all the ghosts and doubles on the snare. I am ashamed. Thank you Clive.
Jaj increíble!! Me pasó lo mismo
Agreed - and flams on the opening hi hat section - I'd never had guessed 👍👍☺
Same here, just recently discovered a couple of those details when the song came up on the radio while driving, and I went: Why haven't I noticed those things before? Like 40 years later?
Don't be ashamed, brother. How could anyone hear ghosts with the other instruments playing?
Clive was unique. To me, he was a genius. That one offbeat stroke on the snare drum... it's for the ages. No other drummer on earth would have come up with that idea. And that song is a good example for his (kind of) "reverse" style - he put the accents everywhere else than where a "straight" drummer would have put them. My deepest respect to him. R.I.P.
I share.
where exactly is this?
@@crypttonite one hit on the snare drum, and it's during the verses, e.g. when Bruce is singing "night was black... (hit) ... was no use holding back" - the verses are in a 7/4 rhythm (if my counting is right), so that one stroke makes sense. Clive leads the rhythm path. That would be my explanation. Sorry, I'm not an english man but I did my best.
@@richard623 cool, wanted to see if I could hear what you are talking about.
Is this definitely Clive’s drum track or is it computer generated isolation?
@@crypttonite definitely his track. All human, no AI.
Groove - you can't play drums without it. This man had it in spades.
He was picking up where Bonham left off
@@mthomas1973 This does have a Led Zep Rock n Roll feel to it with all the snare ghost notes
His Groove on this drum track reminds me of Bonzo! Clive was The Man! Cheers!
I totally agree. He has the Bonham groove and swaggar but not quite as great on the hi hats
Underrated drummer with a big groove + great drum sound.
Greatest drummer Iron Maiden ever had
I concur
Without a doubt.
Best Drummer Iron Maiden ever had.
Those Paiste cymbals sound bloody amazing!!
It's impossible to imagine the Maiden sound with different cymbals brand...
So much to love here! The double hit on the snare, the flams on the hats in the intro, the dynamics on the kick drum and...there is a punch in! Always was a huge fan of Clive, now even more so.
Martin Birch and a great drummer - one of rock's great treats.
Clive Burr was a very creative drummer, just the accent on the snare changes the feel of the bar. Quality drummers are hard to find so still ridiculously difficult to believe Maiden would sack Clive Burr. They were never the same after Beast.
@Noah Non drummers tend to disagree
He wasnt canned, he got MS and
Eventually died of it in 2013
@@stephenhuber713 Yes that was much later Desperado came before that and yes sadly he was fired by Maiden “Previously a member of Samson, Burr joined Iron Maiden in 1979. ... Burr was fired from the band in 1982 during The Beast on the Road tour.” Which was an utterly insane decision.
Clive burr got sick with ms. However Paul Diano WAS fired.
Clive Burr was unique and stil basically owns number of the Beast and Total eclipse.
@@stephenhuber713 He did not get sick until 1994. Dianno and Burr added the punk element of early Maiden. Listen to Wrathchild he not only ups the speed he plays those 16th notes one handed.
Paiste Formula 602 Extra Heavy Hi-Hats. Clive is the reason I special ordered them when I was 17.
What about the ride used on Killers? It drives me mad hearing it on Prodigal son, it has so much character. My guess: 2002 heavy dry "21
Maiden lost a little of their swing after Clive left. Great part played with real feel.
Clive's drumming is so tight and powerful!!
For anyone wondering, this is definitely Clive. If you played Paiste in the early 80s, you understand. Besides, his style is very obvious here, one very hard to define
Yep I started playing in the mid 80s, you can clearly hear these aren't Zildjian. Bonham, Ian Paice, Stewart Copeland, Nick Mason, etc etc etc you know the list that used Paiste back then and still do, except Bonzo he's playing with Clive in heaven. It also makes me sick to my stomach why Clive was asked to leave. The indulgence's lies really pi$$ me off to this day
@@m42037 Why was he fired. I've never gotten a straight answer.
@@Twotontessie He wasn't "fired" per se, He was asked to leave. Clive's father died and he wanted time away to spend with family, Steve wanted to keep going and they had word's, Nicko was sitting in for him while he was gone, when he wanted to come back Steve just asked him to walk away so being the humble guy Clive was he said "well I wasn't going to argue the matter if they want me gone I'll just walk away so I did and there was no arguments" The rumours of Clive missing gigs, messing up being drunk and a puke bucket by his drums is just that "rumours",in all of the Beast tour, Killers I as a drummer never heard Clive mess up at all on the contrary! Clive said himself the so called "indulgence's" was bs. There's a couple interview's with Bruce and he said in regards to Clive quote "I didn't like the way the Clive thing went down, not to take anything away from Nicko he's great but Clive was the best drummer this band ever had" There's another one where he's up Steve's arse so was Adrian saying Clive couldn't handle the Rock and Roll lifestyle rubbish. In fact it was Paul that was fired for excessive partying
@@m42037I always wondered about that. All the stuff I have seen on that period of the band when he was in- he was never anything but spot on. Bottom line is that this is Steve’s band. And if he had an issue with Clive’s absence, then he did. And as much as I like Nicko and his playing, Clive will always be the drummer in Maiden. He was a beast of a drummer.
@@m42037the rumors as you called them have been confirmed by Smith, Murray and Rod Smallwood. He was partying and it was affecting his.gig.
For me Clive Burr was the Ringo Starr of heavy metal, he always came up with those unique recognizable drum beats, plus power and groove. Amazing drummer. R.I.P.
This album is so special to me, the first one I bought with my pocket money and saving school dinner money.When it came out I became obsessed with every beat, word and musical turn.My parents must have thought I was possessed.
I love it.
Clive mixed punk rock speed with the energy of the metal
Clive Burr a master of drum
This is absolutely brilliant! Thanks for posting this kiboko!
With pleasure.
Saw this tour with Clive. Last tour with Clive and 1st with Bruce. July 82 with Maiden, Nugent & Foreigner & Loverboy. Orchard Park, NY. 🤟🥴
This is very cool. I became a drummer because of Clive.
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@@DrJ-hx7wv Thanks, I will check it out.👍
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Such a talent and such a loss.
by itself this is cool, the kidder was CHEERFUL & you can hear it.
Clive Burr rules in this song, Nicko McBrain does a good job, but I prefer Clive's groove
I agree! He has so much fun behind the kit, always got a smile on his face.
I agree.
Nicko is inferior to Clive Burr
Different styles for sure; Clive is more pure, original, natural
and hard hitting. Nicko has more little fills and tends to be more “spread out” on his kit. For me,
Steady, solid and a natural groove wins.
Clive All The Way
Wow it's like the 666 the Shuffle Of the Beast!
So musical and direct. Those snare hits on the and of 3 are placed so nicely and at a different dynamic level than the other snare hits. Great work.
Flams on the opening hi hats? Never caught that before. Thank you 😇
Me neither
Exactly!
Never knew that either ☺
Clive was badass! He had class, felling and creativity.
Only one Bassdrum!
Listen to it! Heavy stuff!!
My God, this drum track could be an instrumental song by itself
Clive had the Ian Paice style !!!! God Bless his soul
I hear Bonham influence on this track. That groove and off time snare hit on the end of the bar.
Killer
@@mthomas1973 absolutely, Bonzo written all over it. makes the song really
Sounds alot like Bonham in some of his grooves
The older I get the more I prefer Cilves drumming over Niko. I have trouble listening to the book of souls album because I can tell Kevin Shirley oversampled the drums.
The drum sound on all the post reunion albums sound absolute garbage, which makes them difficult to enjoy. I too prefer Clive. A much tighter drummer.
@@CM_CHESS You my friend lack an ear for good production. But you are entitled to your erroneous opinion. Can’t expect everyone to understand matters such as these. Do be well. 😘
Bloody fabulous! Although its heavy rock, there's an awful lot of groove and swing here. Great stuff Mr Burr!
@@Ishimura89 Good production? You can barely hear the bass drum on the Trooper. Cant say that about Stratego...
Martin birch era was the top imo, it went really downhill when they released no prayer for the dying.
The delay on the snare wow!
I just want to say thank you, sir! Thank you :)
Thanks to this i finaly found the groove pocket.I was just never able to find where the groove was🤘😎
chapeau Clive..puissance..régularité.tonicité..nettement meilleur que Mc Brain..RIP.
Clive Rules
Like a machine.
Clive Burr RIP!
Holy F..k... Clive was AMAZING
Alright musicians, give this a thought. First I must say I read the posts and some of you said how can a band ask this man to leave the band? I completely agree, I think the main man is the one and only Steve, he didn't want to give Clive some time off to spend with family because his father died, I find this sickining. Work work work! The puke bucket and Clive's rock and roll "indulgence's is bull****. I can't believe Adrian said this in a interview not long ago he knows this isn't true. If you Google "Why was Clive Burr asked to leave" Clive came out finally and said the indulgences were completely not true" Now from what I remember Nicko was asked if he wanted the job, he said he didn't want to step on any toes and get in the middle of anything, then he was asked very stern, DO YOU WANT THE JOB OR NO?" He said ok. So I can't blame all on Nicko, would you leave a blues band making peanuts to be in Iron Maiden? Now what I wanted to say to fellow musicians (I started playing drums in 83 at 17) I want to make a comparison. I think Clive Burr and Randy Rhoads were so alike. Two very humble great human beings that were so great and took from us too soon. Clive was asked to leave coincidentally the same year RR died. And when Clive left Maiden the band was different, to me they weren't the same. Ozzy's music the same, when Randy was gone you clearly hear the music was not the same. Two great humble men RIP, you were at the top few of the greatest musicians I ever heard!!
From what i remember, Nicko was playing with the french hard rock band Trust...😊
@@ldravet Just before he joined Maiden, he was. He and Clive effectively swapped places (although Clive didn't fully join Trust, he just recorded their subsequent album with them). Pre-Trust, Nicko was working with Pat Travers
Steve Harris is Psychopath=No compassion
I couldn’t believe it when I saw Clive play live he was like an octopus on amphetamines
Thank you! Trying to learn this song and this is perfect!
Is that a Ghost note on the snare ..? Its an amazing track !!!
If you mean the last note in the groove of the verse, then yes.
@@kiboko_drummer так и после каждых первых трех ударов по рабочему в груве слышно еще один удар тише (натуральный р"н"р ритм) или это призвук?
@@TheMetalepsis Думаю, что это не призвук и не ревер, он реально играет это удар.
@@kiboko_drummer Благодарю! В таком виде партия предстает в ваших видео в абсолютно новом свете, столько нюансов! Чего не услышать на плпстинках кассетах тех лет! Шикарный канал!
@@TheMetalepsis Спасибо на добром слове ))
Holy fuck it's amazing
Huge 🔥🔥💪🏽
Iron Maiden's best drummer in my opinion. Much more creative than his successor. It's a shame he didn't get off the drugs when they told him to. Then MS struck him down. Very sad.
clive
Genio.
this is amazing 🤘🏼
MAIDEN IS METAL !!! Up the Irons
In this album i prefer clive Burr's groove mcbrain jam perfect some tracks from this album but not as clive!!!!
Sonors and Paistes!!!!! 🤘🥰🤘
Tama. You're thinking of Nicko, but the cymbals are unmistakable
I stand corrected Ludwig first few albums...then Tama on this album...thanks brother 🤘
@@natevanslyke7274 any fan of Clive is a friend of mine
Mucho gracias....jjm111
BALLROOM BLITZ
Amazin
1:11
I agree
hey could u combine the drum track with another song, it’s an idea I have & I don’t have the apps or proper device to do so. Lmk
:)
wasting love, iron maiden
Is this the original one?!
Yes.
@@kiboko_drummer I never realized there was a double snare hit on the groove of the verse... 😳
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Я старался ))
His sub division was frustratingly insane. I like Nicko, but he was a downgrade.
Back when real drummers played for real...
Fui ver esse vídeo e o comentário é 66 kkk e o meu é 67
STILL get sick to my stomach whenever I hear Nico desecrate this classic 🤮
Yes man nicko not playing any song good of clive or the era clive, hallowed by the name hes playing is horrible
@@Musikmusikmusik I agree, I find Clive’s drumming makes it sad with the half time feel. Nicko plays it too up tempo which gives it a happy feel
Niikko is lazy in his use of toms compareed to Burr on Number
umm... nicko uses way more toms than clive
@@plasticplayer4692 nah dude, even bruce said that nicko was too technical for them
@ Nicko is heavily reliant on cymbals, does use floor toms alot. If you you follow their newer material or watch drum cam of flight of icarus. His use of floor tom is awesome. Its a fill realy it supports his bass drum
@ I see the troll is back criticizing Clive. Let me give you some advice, crawl back to your little stone in the ghetto where you belong, your not welcome here. Clive was superior in speed and Bruce never said no such thing. What he said was quote "Not to take anything away from Nicko he's great but Clive Burr was the best drummer this band ever had"
Dumbest shit ever. Nicko uses toms way more than Clive. Listen to Run to the hills live
Good for a punk band, not Iron... Nicko was an upgrade!
Clive burr was amazing for maiden
Nicko was a downgrade, great but cant compete with Clive
@@TheOfficerMahoney lol...
XD IMPOSIBLE