3700 kW, 5000 V three-phase motor - startup test sound
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- See and hear the no-load test of a three-phase slip ring motor frame size 710. This replacement motor was built to be interchangeable with an old Siemens motor with base frame and pedestal sleeve bearings. It will power a large water pump, which will only be used at peak times in summer.
Menzel has the largest warehouse in Europe for large industrial motors and was able to meet the requirements with a three-phase slip ring motor having a shaft height of 710 mm, rated power 3700 kW and rated voltage 5000 V. Since the old, failed motor had a forged half coupling, Menzel procured and fitted a new coupling half. Modern day designs see motors having smaller centre heights than their predecessors. Therefore, in order to raise the new, more compact motor to the same shaft height as the existing unit, Menzel added an additional base frame, which met existing foundation fixing points.
At the original installation in the pump house, all supply cables come from below the foundation block. To accommodate this arrangement, and save site work/costs, we moved the terminal boxes on the replacement motor. This way the new replica fits 1:1 on the cabling system and can be put into operation immediately.
Motor data:
Three-phase slip ring motor MEBSSL710-06 with anti-friction bearings
Standard: IEC / EN 60034-1
Power: 3700 kW
Voltage: 5000 V
Frequency: 50 Hz
Number of poles: 6-pole
Nominal speed: 991 min-1
Mounting: IM B3
Cooling type: IC611
Degree of protection: IP55
Weight: 22230 kg
Menzel supplies electric motors all over the world. Most of our three-phase and DC motors are replacements for existing obsolete designs. We reproduce existing motors identically in all motor types and performance classes - from 100 kW crane motors to mill or pump drives in the megawatt range.
Replicating electric motors, which are no longer available today, is one of the tailor-made motor solutions from MENZEL Elektromotoren. Often a specific electric motor is manufactured for a specific application. If this is to be replaced, an almost identical machine with matching mechanical and electical interfaces must be available. We build customized electric motors so that they fit 100% on your system, or we make them fit by customized adjustments.
Our engineering department is well prepared to replace existing motors with new identical models. This saves high conversion costs and long downtimes on site. In addition, you avoid changes to your production systems, the consequences of which are often difficult to understand.
If you are looking for electric motors from manufacturers such as Siemens or ABB that are no longer available, we can replicate them at our modern and well-equipped Berlin location.
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What applications would this motor be used for? Huge ships? And how much torque does it have?
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Spettacolo!
@@danielevaltorta7208 Ti piace?
Super Video, wie immer. Freu mich schon auf weitere Motorstarts aus dem Hause Menzel :D
This one has a real sound of power thank you I really appreciate your sharing.
Thanks for your comment which is very much appreciated. Yes, we love large industrial electric motors! ;-) There are more to come.
Many people might not know you, but at least please know that we know and love you.
Love the sound of technology spinning. 👍
please feel very welcome
@@MenzelMotors what application is such a motor used for
@@xa-xii4865 Most likely emergency power for a large facility or stationary power generation, or in some cases railways.
A three megawatt motor just sittin' there spinning so quickly and quietly is a hell of an intimidating thing. Incredibly useful, too, and it's pretty impressive how little vibration there is in that beast of a motor throughout the range of RPMs shown.
We call this "Quality from experience." ;-) Thank you for your compliment.
I'm wondering if it would be possible to design and build a motor that can run on either 3-phase star/delta or a single phase.
Disclaimer: You'd need five windings
Thanks for your question.
The medium voltage motors are usually connected in Y connection, so every phase can be separately protected and measured.
Theoretically a single phase design would be possible, but would reduce torque and power with the same rotor - and most important: we can not imagine an grid that would accept a few MW of imbalance due to single phase operation.
Good information to have!
I spent some time rethinking my idea, and decided upon the universal phase motor (UPM, not to be confused with a standard universal motor, which can run on both AC and DC.
The UPM could run on either three-phase star/delta, single phase, or a split-phase system (like the 205-208V/ 240VAC outlets in residential areas with 100-120VAC mains.
The motor could be designed as either an induction motor or a synchronous motor, however in both types of motor, the geometry of the rotor would need to be such that when the motor is operating on any three-, split-, or single-phase system, the magnetic fields are restricted to the rotor.
This would provide higher torque in some operating modes, but mainly the purpose of restricting the magnetic fields to the rotor is to prevent back EMF from being present in unwanted spots (mainly the other windings.)
casual 5000hp
1:37 Motor data:
Three-phase slip ring motor MEBSSL710-06 with anti-friction bearings
Standard: IEC / EN 60034-1
Power: 3700 kW
Voltage: 5000 V
Frequency: 50 Hz
Number of poles: 6-pole
Nominal speed: 991 min-1
Mounting: IM B3
Cooling type: IC611
Degree of protection: IP55
Weight: 22230 kg
Menzel supplies electric motors all over the world. Most of our three-phase and DC motors are replacements for existing obsolete designs. We reproduce existing motors identically in all motor types and performance classes - from 100 kW crane motors to mill or pump drives in the megawatt range. If you want to know more about this motor and its application in the industry, take a look at the video description and write a comment.
@TheReal_YΛSH Do you like it?
Current: 740 A
Finally!! The best sounding motor. Love the sweet tune starting from 1:00.
Thank you for your comment. Happy you like it!
That's amazing, fucking A M A.Z I N G, love you Menzel! ❤️
Thank you very much! ❤️ Happy to see that you are enjoying our work.
Great job Menzel!
Keep up the good work!
We will. With such nice fans, the whole thing is a lot of fun.
Immer wieder schön zu sehen! Danke ans Marketing
Always a pleasure. :)
Stunning beast, sounds like a jet engine 🇬🇧
that's right, greetings from Berlin
Excellent! η from 50% as heater to 100% for superconductor option.
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Like that sound......more and more power
Yes, thank your for your comment
I like you video and information for startup electrik motor... good job
Thank you very much! Glad you like it!
Greetings from Australia 🇦🇺. Great content
Thank you very much. Greetings from Berlin.
I love your motors
good job keep going❤❤❤❤❤⚙⚙
thx
Jeez, 3.7MVA. Could you imagine getting your tie caught in that.
that would be dangerous and is therefore only carried out by us under strict conditions
I'd put that on the biggest chiller I could imagine!
Master AI: Which world do you want to simulate in high resolution? ;-)
Cool stuff 👍 I service the types of pumps this motor spins
Thank you very much.
It's nice to see pump experts sending us comments and likes and sharing our passion.
how many newtonmeters of torque can this motor output?
Esse barulho do motor acelerando é simplesmente incrível parabéns pelo vídeo
Muito obrigado pelo seu feedback. Ficamos satisfeitos por ter gostado.
What are the applications for these types of motors? 3.7 MW is surely a lot of power.
These motors are usually used to drive large industrial mills, refiners, shredders, compressors, fans, and pumps.
With how quiet these electric motors are i would assume they are very efficient in power consumption!
Thank you for your question.
The noise level is only partly related to efficiency, but at optimized fan blades (for high efficiency and automatically low noise ) this goes together - yes. Highest influence on efficiency are low losses laminations and suitable design.
Pushing almost 5000HP. That thing isn't messing around.
muy bien, gracias por esta información
Muchas gracias. Nos encantan estos tipos de motores eléctricos.
Question: when it says 3700 kw , does that mean if the rotor is spun at the correct rpm it can produce that amount of power?
Yes, the 3700 kW is the power at rated Voltage at 991 rpm .
I often heard big motor coupled to pump start, like 4.5MW moto pump capable to move 17 000 liters per second at low pressure 2.5 bar.
It start in a very few seconds. (The nuclear power plant supply them directly).
Yes, a squirrel cage motor that is direct on line started, starts very fast in many cases, you are right.
In the test field we start over the frequency, accelerating very slow, so we can better hear, measure and identify potential problems.
Olá Menzel, vocês podem produzir um motor de 500volts, 400kw, no máximo até 100kg?
Muchas gracias por su pregunta. Por favor, mande su petición completa con los datos del motors que necesita a al@menzel-motors.com
How much torque does this beast output in terms of nm?
Heftiges "Motörchen"... Den steckt man sich nicht mal eben in die Hosentasche. Das Rauschen am Anfang, waren das FUs? Falls ja, stell ich mir vor, dass das auch ganz schöne Brecher sind, um so einen Motor auf Touren zu bringen/halten. Wie üblich geniales Video :)
Lieben Dank für den tollen Kommentar. Ja, das Rauschen ,was man hört, sind die Lüfter, die die Umrichter kühlen.
for reference 3700 kW = 5030 hp
that's right
Avez-vous la possibilité de fabriquer / trouver des pièces de rechange pour un vieux alternateur Siemens 1'250kVA ?
Merci beaucoup pour l'intérêt que vous portez à nos services. Veuillez nous envoyer la spécification à al@menzel-motors.com et nous vérifierons les possibilités.
Have a 3phase motor for a shoe repair this motor has a fuse that keeps blowing. Is there a reason there would be a fuse where the motor wires. Are ?
how many price of dollars
Thank you for your interest in our motors. The price of these large motors really depend on the configuration and customization.
We are specialized in the manufacturing of custom electric motors, so there is no standard price, I am afraid.
Taki silnik to ja mam w suszarce do włosów 😉
;-) Chętnie zobaczyłbym zdjęcie tego, proszę.
time to fit this in a miata. i’ll be back tomorrow or so
Good idea! ;-)
You just need to make sure, the Cables for power supply are long enough
@@MenzelMotors yea yea no issues i got wires
If the steel in this coupling is hard enough, you could use this as a knife sharpener.
Yes, and that is much appreciated at every team BBQ that we organize.
Это какой-то монстр!
صوت مرعب شكرا من سوريا ❤️
Thank you very much for your comment. We are happy you like it.
this should drive a fan
Thank you for your comment.
This slip ring motor is driving a pump.
So this is a 3.7 MEGAWATT MOTOR!?!? 1 MW is 1,000 kW, so the math checks out!
Yes, 3.7 MW. We manufacture and supply electric motors up to 25,000 kW, which is 25 MW.
Could you propell a ship with one of these?
Thanks for your question. Ship motors have different motor specifications. This motor here was made to drive a pump.
Any motor experts here to tell me what creates that building up noise. Or scream . My guess is that ita the motor windings imterracting with the magnetic field and torque
Thank you for your question. Noise is a very complex topic. The biggest part is a mixture of Mechanical Nois coming from winding / Stator iron core due to magnetization, but also the new bearings create a noise.
Einen genauen Preis will ich nicht wissen, aber um mal eine Vorstellung zu haben. Was kostet denn so ein Motor mit Steuerung?
Jetzt nicht der konkrete Motor, aber wenn ihr so spezielle Motoren anfertigt, dann könnte man damit ja auch die Antriebe von alten Zügen modernisieren oder von alten U-Bahn Wagen etc.
Ein solcher Motor kostet üblicherweise zwischen 200.000 und 300.000 - ohne Steuerung. Bei Steuerungen gibt es einfach analoge, aber auch hochwertige Umrichter für mehrere hunderttausende Euro. Motoren für Züge und U-Bahnen sind ein völlig eigenes Feld der Traktionsantriebe - die wir nicht fertigen.
@@MenzelMotors Danke für die ausführlche Antwort. Keine Fragen mehr, wollte das jedoch auch nicht unkommentiert stehen lassen
Is it synchronous or asynchronous?
It's athree-phase asynchronous motor
@@MenzelMotors Ok, thanks.
What's that loud noise before starting the motor?
Thank you for your question. The you can hear from the beginning are the cooling fans from our test field VFD's.
@@MenzelMotors Oh, I thought it was the guy looking at the electric bill.
Fantastico quanti giri sono al minuto
Grazie mille per il tuo bel commento.
@@MenzelMotors grazie a voi video molto interessante .. risposte eccellenti 👍.
Se gentilmente mi inviate sempre dei video a riguardo 👍grazie..
What are these huge motors used for?
This motor, for example, will power a large water pump. Our motors are usually used to drive huge pumps, mills, fans or any other industrial machinary that has to move large and heavy things.
i need that motor for my rc car
That's a good idea.
But you would need a very large car and big cables, too.
Come viene provato questo motore con l,inverter?
Il motore viene fornito con una tensione sinusale perfetta da un gruppo motore-generatore rotante.
Poiché iniziamo sulla frequenza, un VFD sta aumentando (da 0 a 50 Hz) il motore del gruppo motore-generatore.
Quindi possiamo avere una rampa graduale, ma nessuna uscita VFD direttamente sull'avvolgimento del motore di prova.
Сколько лошадиных сил даёт эта дикая вещь?
5000 ... ;-)
DC / AC motor ?
Thank you for your question. This is an AC motor with slip ring rotor.
nutzt dieser motor einen soft-start?
Herzlichen Dank für Ihre Frage. Dieser Schleifringläufermotor nutzt einen Rotor Resistance Starter.
@@MenzelMotors danke
It’s still not as Lou das that damn neighbor at 6 in the morning on a Saturday using their angle grinder for god knows what
Suggestion: Just put our video on the big speakers and turn it up all the way. Your neighbor will love it!
Das ist erstaunlich leise...
Vielen Dank.
And i used yo think, my 75 KW motor is really difficult to handle 😂😂😂
Can someone talk about the starting circuit, my ability band ends at 100 KW
Handling a 75 kW motor can definitely feel challenging, especially when you start dealing with larger systems! The starting circuit for such motors often includes components like:
Star-Delta Starters: Reduces the starting current by connecting the motor in a star configuration initially and then switching to delta for normal operation.
Soft Starters: Gradually increase the voltage to the motor, minimizing inrush current and mechanical stress.
Variable Frequency Drives (VFDs): Allow for control over the motor's speed and torque while also managing starting currents.
Resistive Starting: Uses external resistors to limit the starting current.
If you’re looking for specific advice or configurations, feel free to share more details!
Siemanko 😅
Parece ser un motor de 1800 rpm.
Muchas gracias por su comentario. La velocidad nominal de este motor es de 991 min-1
Don't drop that motor on your foot.
No, that's not recommendable. Lifting them up is already a challange.
Mmmmmm *warp drive sounds *
Thank you very much for your comment. Happy to read that you like it.
1/min = Pisse
Wer auf sich hält = U/min
keep your hair away from that...
Luckily everyone knows that. This is not a hairdryer.
Olá Menzel, vocês podem produzir um motor de 500volts, 400kw, no máximo até 100kg?
Muchas gracias por su pregunta. Por favor, mande su petición completa con los datos del motors que necesita a al@menzel-motors.com