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In this lesson, we discuss the origin of Arabic numbers, and how they found their way into Europe and to other western countries. We discuss the stages through which Arabs have gone to get to the point of using the current numeral system they are using today.
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وَأَرْسَلْنَاهُ إِلَى مِائَةِ أَلْفٍ أَوْ يَزِيدُونَ.{الصافات:147}
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May Allah bless you brother
Funny how god doesn't know the exact number and uses "or more" just like some human from the 7th century who has no methode of determining the exact numbers would.
@@MiidoKinGs funny to see how you think that God must follow your logic and desires
@@nadimal-mahamid4815 Funny to see how u can determine what is a god without using any logic whatsoever.
i'm not learning arabic but i really enjoy videos like this that talk about the history of languages, keep up the good work :)
Yes we want more ya ustaz!
We learnt a lot from your grammar series. And we approved our grammar. And it increased in our heart the love of Quran. And we are preparing for another program, InshaAllah. So learning indepth will bring more joy and also cure from Quran.
May Allah Increase your knowledge in abandance.
Ustaz I am converted muslim from orthodox christian. I was deacon. Now, I lived for 16 years in Islam. But I only recite the Quran. But your and others muslim brothers good deed saved me from madness. InshaAllah I will be cured in advance.
Go more!
I think we are in the same country bro. May Allah cure you. And may he make you steadfast on your religion.
iam Arabic from iraq
Insha Allah
I am an Arab and this video answered so many questions I had, may Allah reward you brother. Jazaka Allahu Khayran!
One hundred thousand is mentioned in Surat As-Saafat verse 147
وَأَرْسَلْنَـٰهُ إِلَىٰ مِا۟ئَةِ أَلْفٍ أَوْ يَزِيدُونَ
And We sent him to [his people of] a hundred thousand or more.
Talking about the story of prophet Yunus عليه السلام
Masha Allah
ما شاء الله عليك راحت عن بالي
They don't know how to count higher than 100,000?
@@Finnegan-s-cakeyeah, why?
@@Finnegan-s-cake no nobody knew back then, the concept of million , billion etc didnt exist, algebra is also a fairly recent discovery (invention? up to you) invened in the 9th century by an arabic man called Muhammed Al-Khawarzmi (if it sounds familliar its because alkhawarizmi is the arabic word for "algorithm", which was named after him)
It's unbelievable how much valuable your videos are thanks a lot ❤
Share everything you know brother :)
I benefit a lot from it as a tajwid teacher by using your content for my lessons ❤
Me too ✋️ Alhamdulillah
In the Maghreb we use the Arabic numerals, most of the Maghrebians find it difficult to read the Hindu Numerals since they're nearly never exposed to them
And the Arabic numbers were introduced to Italy by traders from North Africa
We use the Arabic numerals sometimes here in saudi arabia
Because the so called ‘Arabic numbers ‘ were invented in the Maghreb by a Moroccan
@@haumenic
لنكن صرحاء، لا أفهم لماذا أهل المشرق لا زالوا متمسكين بالأرقام الشرقية. كل العالم وكل اللغات تستعمل الأرقام العربية والكل يسميها الأرقام العربية. يعني عمليا من الأحسن إستعمالها حتى تسهل التواصل مع العالم الخارجي. مع احترامي للشعوب هذا غباء سياسي أو اقتصادي أو سميه كما شئت. متى يفهم من لهم السلطة أن التمسك بأرقام لا تستعمل خارج المشرق ليست في صالحكم. سلام
Hindu numerals is a misnomer. There is western arabic and eastern arabic. Western Arabic uses 1234567890 and eastern Arabic uses ١٢٣٤٥٦٧٨٩٠
Yes we want to learn about hidden meaning in Quran
Yes pls
Yes
Yes!
there is no hidden meaning in Quraan
@@Balady-asShamthere is (that which is known to only Allah), its not this tho
100.000 is the number of the people who the prophet Yunus sent to.
قال الله تعالى: (و أرسلناه إلى مئة ألف أو يزيدون)
3:00 I am incredibly interested in this! Yes please! JazakAllahu Khayran
I'm a little confused by the narrative. The original Hindu numerals were still a little different to those used in 'Hindu numerals' shown in this video, which seem to be the script used in more Eastern Arabic nations, to my knowledge. So there was clearly some evaluation and adaptation that occurred in the Arab world already. In fact this is why numbers used in devanagari (Hindi-style writing scripts) are distinct, having evolved from this common ancestor. Furthermore there is little-to-no evidence suggesting that the numbers more commonly in the world today originate from the angles of their forms, and looking at historical evolutions of the ways these numbers were written seems concurrent with this (of course you can make any number look sufficiently stylised to match this narrative). Nonetheless, they did mostly enter Europe through Andalusia. Finally, it is worth noting that the symbol for 0 already existed in the original Hindu numbers, and was carried into the commonly-used number system in the Arab world (indentical to the dot used today). Though this did also evolve into the 0.
edit: typos
You forgot that in ancient times indians use bramhi script that eventually evolved into devnagri and 0 as symbol is used in ancient times most of thd indian mathematicians used it the symbol is more like had spiritual roots like 0 represents endless cycle
@@sb-bw4lpalso emptiness
Yeah its crazy what bias for a particular group will do to someone's research and critical thinking. All the info you just put up is easily searchable and the academic consensus, unless you're Arabic 101.
Yap
Ya this reads as straightforward bigotry to me
I always wondered why Arabic numerals were not found in Arabic text, but in europeans texts. I could see some resemblance in the indian and indo-arabic numerals in the mushaf and the arabic texts. Now, the whole picture becomes very clear. Thank you for solving this mystery for me.
I don't agree with him, North Africans never use hindi symbole ., and the Arabic number introduced to Italy by the traders. It's obvious he doesn't know about this subject
@@Sharp-Knife You are absolutely right. These numerals were spread by the merchants as they needed arithmetics most of all other groups like priests or warriors, etc and they used Eurasian runes as the basics for that. About that in the video on my channel.
In lots of Warsh musahif you find the original Arabic numbers.
@@PietPieter-k8r What century do the Warsh Musahif belong to?
It’s because they are not really Arabic in the first place they were Persian and a lot of Persian science and discoveries leaked into Europe…. By Alexander
Masha Allah, Jazakallah For your efforts🙏🙏🙏
مقطع شيق ومفيد
شكراً اخي وجزاك الله خيراً
3:04 Yes please!!!
Yes please
wow
am still shocked
first time to get that clear explanation ever, notice THAT am an Arabic specialized
Allah bless you & YOUR GREAT EFFORTS
I also
It's not exactly correct, he doesn't know exactly the subject. North Africans never use Hindu symboles but only Arabic numbers
so good
brother, i found you video really educational and interesting. but i think there are some inaccuracies in your video.
0:29 the hindu-arabic numerals refer to the modern "1234567890" numbers. the correct term is eastern arabic numerals
4:30 that one is just a theory at best. also the only relation that remains between al-khwarizmi's numbers and our modern numbers is that they're both 10 digits. i would really like to show you how the numbers evolved but i assume that comments with links are filtered.
5:53 the numbers were never angled. they were mostly curvy.
no
100.000 was mentioned Assafat chapter , it was about Younus " And We sent him to [his people of] a hundred thousand or more." (147)
Actually this is a very useful content.
مائة ألف أو يزيدون في سورة الصافات ❤
نعم, نريد أن نعلم أكثر عن حساب الجمل
May Allah bless you and your family
May Allah accept all your good deeds. May Allah protect you and your family from all kind of evils and calamities. May Allah grant you Janattul Firdowes. JazakumAllahu Khayran
قناة جميله وممتعه جدا.. الله يبارك فيها وفي صاحبها يا رب
الحمدلله اني مسلمه ولغتي الاساسيه العربي، شوفه هذول المسلمين الي مو قادرين يفهمون شي اساسي بدينهم زي القران يخليني احس بالنعمه الي انا فيها، فالحمدلله 🥹.
Thanks!
It shows Muslims aren’t arrogant to adopt & respect something useful for themselves from another culture, especially an opposing one too.
Same to europeans who also took alot of stuff from the people they conquered
people didn't care much about culture back then.
Well that’s because you had to really, Indians had it figured out
arabs man
No brother. When you say Indian culture don't think about Hindus only. The Indian culture encompasses both the Hindus and Muslims. It is for sure a little dissimilar to the Arabic culture albeit not significantly, rather it is a lot lot closer to the Arabic culture compared to any other; let alone opposing. People who live a rural life in Indian subcontinent would understand this quite easily. In reality, almost all old world culture has been replaced by modern western culture. Only Indian and Arabic cultures are the major cultures that still have a foothold. And the Arabic culture is only in place thanks to indopak Muslims. Just like once the Indian culture provided numericals to the Arabic culture, it again helped in a sense.
remarkable clear ,simple explanation
100,000 angels at the battle of badr
5000
@@incrxdible9896 jezakumullah kheyran
Ne alakası var, lan, Musa?
جزاكم الله خيراً. أقترح عليكم عمل قناة تنشرون عليها نفس المحتوى ولكن بالعربية، وهذا سيكون سبباً في إفادة كثير من الناس.
Barakallahu feek for your video
100.000 is mentioned in sura As-Saffat inthe storie of prophet Yunus as. :)
Jazak Allahu khayran
I had no idea about the angles😮. Thanks very much.
because it is wrong.
Yes we want to learn. JazakAllah hu khair
I'd love to learn anything you are teaching us. I've never met anything here without evidence.
That's why I'm the no 1 proud subscriber
JazakAllah Khair (may Allah reward you with good)
السلام عليكم شكرا على المعلومات
Mashallah, what an informative vd.. jazakallah
رغم انى عربي مصرى "عايش فى مصر" بس بستفيد من القناة وبحبها
Wowwww incridible information Alahumma barek ❤❤❤❤❤❤
From Wikipedia -
Pingala (c. 3rd or 2nd century BC), a Sanskrit prosody scholar, used binary numbers in the form of short and long syllables (the latter equal in length to two short syllables), a notation similar to Morse code. Pingala used the Sanskrit word śūnya explicitly to refer to zero.
The concept of zero as a written digit in the decimal place value notation was developed in India.
but that's not a digit. It's a word.
Subhan Allah. Very interesting. Would love to listen from you on - hisab aljammel
Thank you for this video, but the Arabic numerals found their way to Europe by Fibonacci who studied in Bejaia-Algeria (Bougie that time, which means candle in french due to its influence on Europe) in the 12th century and brought back these symbols to Italy and from there they spread all over Europe
Assalamu alaikum
The number 100 000 is mentioned in surah As-Saffat, verse 147
Of course we want to learn such topics
محتوى جميل , على الرغم من كوني عربي استفدت . شكرا
There is an earlier rendition of the Hindu numbering system that more closely follows the formation of the European numerals (and is unrelated to the supposed idea of angle counting).
One to three are identical to European numerals as are seven and nine. Four, five, six and eight are significantly different however.
The western Arabic and Eastern Arabic are significantly different from each other.
1:40
ذكر هذا الرقم في القرأن عن سيدنا يونس عليه السلام في قوله تعالى ( وارسلناه الى مائة ألف او يزيدون )
Yes, we would like that video. Bleeeeease
﴿وَأَرْسَلْنَاهُ إِلَىٰ مِائَةِ أَلْفٍ أَوْ يَزِيدُونَ﴾ 147 الصافات
1:34 في قوله تعالى: {وأرسلناه إلى مئة ألف أو يزيدون}
في قصة نبي الله يونس عليه السلام في سورة الصافات
The Maya had a system that didn't have the problems of the Roman System. The zero was a sea shell, one through four were dots (where four was four dots). Five was a horizontal straight lines. The number 13 was represented by 3 dots on top of two straight lines. The zero was a sea shell very large numbers could take a while to represent. Four hundred was a dot a clamshell a gap and a clamshell. The number 2000 was represented as 5 x 400 a straight line, a gap a shell a gap and a shell.
good info
جزاك الله خيرا
I hoped you mention that Khawrazmi was a great "PERSIAN" scientist (not arab). He also invented "Jabr" which now is named "Algebra". He revised a different variety of scientific branches like geometry, geography, arithmetic methods, astronomy, chronology, etc.
He was arab my friend 😅
He was Khwarezmian. Not Persian, nor Arabic unless he emigrated.
@@UmarWazir His mother tongue was Persian and he was born in Khawrazm (a north-eastern region of Iran).
@user-nh8zt9wl3c jealous of what? Persians? Hell nah bro 😂
Jazakumullahu Khairun!
Please do make a video on hidden messages in the Quran. MashaAllah I have found the science of Quran most fascinating learning from this channel!
هذه ليست علوم القران علوم القران هي التفسير والقراءات واللغة العربية بجميع علمومها والحديث النبوي الشريف التجويد .....
@@mohamedouali1974 Perhaps... we won't know until we see what he has to say
No, it is shirk. Luckily he didn’t suggest that there were any, because there couldn’t be. This is immediately obvious when you take into account that the ordering of the letters in Arabic (and what letters there are) as well as their assigned values is something completely arbitrary.
It was us who wrote down our abjad and then ordered the letters and re-ordered them many times, it wasn’t told to the Arabs by Allah, it’s made up. If you try to make the same system today with the current order of the letters you will get completely different values, it’s meaningless.
Thanks 4 ur explanation, and was hoping u explain the origin of Quran and how they're compiled into like we seen today.
Thank you very much
Very good lesson...
I'm very skeptical about the story that our numbers are based on counting angles. I've never seen a "9" written with that extra curl that makes the angle counting work. And the "1" and "9" of the Hindu numerals you show already look like our 1 and 9. (But then again, the 5 and 6 look like our 0 and 7.)
This blew my mind. Shokhran my friend.
Assalamualaikum brother, I want to ask you about it
Hafs:وَجَعَلُوا۟ ٱلْمَلَـٰٓئِكَةَ ٱلَّذِينَ هُمْ عِبَـٰدُ ٱلرَّحْمَـٰنِ إِنَـٰثًا ۚ أَشَهِدُوا۟ خَلْقَهُمْ ۚ سَتُكْتَبُ شَهَـٰدَتُهُمْ وَيُسْـَٔلُونَ
Surah 43:19 hafs
Warsh:وَجَعَلُوا۟ ٱلْمَلَـٰٓئِكَةَ ٱلَّذِينَ هُمْ عِندَ ٱلرَّحْمَـٰنِ إِنَـٰثًا ۚ أَشَهِدُوا۟ خَلْقَهُمْ ۚ سَتُكْتَبُ شَهَـٰدَتُهُمْ وَيُسْـَٔلُونَ
Surah 43:19 warsh
in hafs reading, the word "ibada" is used in this verse but in warsh, the word "inda" is used in this verse.
Is it still connected?
can anyone give an answer?
Brother there is a book in Urdu that addresses the matter of different Qiraat very well. If you know Urdu I would send a link.
Mindblowing, I didn’t expect the English numbers to actually be Arabic numerals
they're hindu Arabic
I am a Muslim and an Arab, and this is the first time I knew about this.
I m Indian۔ & I m knowing this first time۔ too 😅
Jazaakallaahu Khairan Kaseeran
100000 was mentioned in surat alsaffat
Jazak Allah khairan. So interesting. Best channel on RUclips.
There is a verse in Surah Al-Ma'arij which says that the day with your Lord will be equal to fifty thousand years كَانَ مِقْدَارُهُ خَمْسِينَ أَلْفَ سَنَةٍ. (Whereof the measure is fifty thousand yours - 70:4)
Great video
3:00 Make it (حساب الجمّل)
😮😮😮😮😮 eye opener!!!
Can you please make another video about حساب الجُمّل 'cause i 'm realy intresting , and thank you for your efforts i really appreciate this ♡
Jazakallah khair
The University uf Alqarawiyyine in Morocco city of Fez used arabiic number and not Al Andalus which is was a part of The Empire of Almoravid and Almohad.Pope Silvestre II studied in Fez Morocco not in Alandalus.
We modern folks took numbers for granted and didn't realize how the number 0 is actually an important breakthrough and how it we invent 0 way after we create another numbers
Sunnah to be held highest 🇸🇦
Arabic numbers were actually invented in India particularly the number zero. Europe got in touch with the new system through Arab merchants hence the name.
Zero and the decimal system was first used in India from 300 BCE
Amazing 👍, yes please and share knowledge about number 19 in the Quran .
Muhammad ibn Musa al-Khwarizmi، often referred to as simply al-Khwarizmi, was a Persian polymath who produced vastly influential Arabic-language works in mathematics, astronomy, and geography. Hailing from Khwarazm, he was appointed as the astronomer and head of the House of Wisdom in the city of Baghdad around 820 CE.
In north africa we use usually the arabic numbers. You have to now that zero was found in Morroco (Fes).
Zero and decimal system was first used in India from 300 BCE.
JazakAllah 😊
very interesting description !
Proud after watching this video thank you bro شكرا ❤️
Proud to believe in misinformation ... explains a lot about the Arab mentality.
Yes we want
wow this was new information
and the way you explain is simply awesome
barak Allah feek
keep it up
Jazak Allah kayran
A hundred thousand was mentioned in surah al-saffat, وأرسلناه إلى م(ا)ئة الف او يزيدون
2:43 im interested about this, if you have the time and resources I’d love to learn about this insha’allah.
Jazak allah khayran
Hello friends, I know that the followers of this channel want to learn the Arabic language, and I want to learn the English language. In both cases, we need some training. If one of you wants to train with me in the Arabic language, and in return I train with him in the English language, please send me a message.
Those are Muslim numbers not arab numbers as you say , because al-khawaresmi who invented it , is a Muslim from khawarism knowing now as Uzbekistan ❤
He was Persian and worked in Bagdad
brother you should seek more knowledge before commenting such
@@mhb.i it would have been better if you narrated your story to us so we could correct our information, rather than telling me what to do or doubting my knowledge.
YES PLEASE TELL US MORE ABOUT HIDDEN MESSAGES IN QURAAN
There are no hidden meanings in the Quran he was talking about an encryption system that was mostly used by magicians
This encryption system is used in Torah to hide the name of Mohammed صلى الله عليه و سلم
قال تعالى عن نبيه يونس عليه السلام "وأرسلناه إلى مائة ألف أو يزيدون"
As-Saffat (The Rangers) 37:147
وَأَرْسَلْنَـٰهُ إِلَىٰ مِا۟ئَةِ أَلْفٍ أَوْ يَزِيدُونَ
مقطع جميل شكرا لك
Subhan Allah
I remember 1000 , as the number mentioned when discussing the term of dawah of Prophet Nuh Alaihisalam. It came like , 1000 and 50 less. Which means , 950 years , he did dawah
Subhanallah. Allah may grant you and all of us jannat ul firdaus. You actually do the work of spreading knowledge of Deen.
Nothing to do with religion
I think that the idea of shaping numbers using how much of inner angle they form is inaccurate and proven to be wrong.
3:15 they call it numerology. This idea of extracting supposed hidden messages has been used by the Jews. And as far as I know Ibn Abbas, the companion declared this method as prohibited. It’s not a valid nor a solid way of Tafseer!
Yes brother you are right
May Allah reward you
the answer why arabs don't use these numbers because this arabic numbers was founded and used in north africa, and the european people called it arabic numbers because they got it from the muslims of north africa