Hey guys! I wanted to apologize about not posting a video last week. I normally post a video every week, but I had too much on my plate last week and wasn’t able to post. I hope you can forgive me! Thanks for watching and thanks for the support!
Kentucky ballistic not a problem do what you can when you can greetings from UK England Essex great video but your having a FUBAR day lol shot your table 2 times. 💕🐺👌🔫
I honestly think they are equals. I’m not sure if it’s what Cooper intended, but I see the 10mm as the semi auto equivalent to .357 Magnum. When both are loaded to full potential, they have nearly identical energy levels. I love both it really just comes down to revolver vs semi auto. I think these two calibers are the absolute best options for people who want the most power possible while still maintaining practicality in a carry gun.
I agree, these calibers are literally neck and neck in terms of on paper energy. I would only add that those who trust in grains of lead would favor 10mm, and those who put their faith in grains of powder would see an advantage in 357. Luckily Ruger chambered their Gp100 in 10mm auto. (You couldn't get it into the L frame, S&W?) So I can enjoy both.
I do a search for 10mm vs. .357 magnum in 2023 and I find this old video of Scott doing a test. No tactical T-rex. No tables being deliberately shattered. No watermelon. No egg plants. Excellent science. Your channel has really evolved over the years. It is fun to see.
I prefer 357. Been carrying a 686+ on my hip for about 7 years. As far as versatility goes with handgun cartridges that are fairly common, I think 357 is where it’s at. Thanks for the vid!
Love your reviews bud! Thank you for confirming that 357. And 10mm are pretty comparable, i'm more of a wheelgun guy these days but either platform would leave me feeling safe in the backcountry. Capacity is nice but simplicity of a revolver and 6, or 7 rounds is nice too. Reloads on revolvers aren't as terrible as everyone makes it out to be, practice makes progress.
Great video - thanks! As I have mentioned in my own videos, the 10MM and the 357 Mag are my two favorite rounds. This test simply confirms this along with the use of heavier loads in each when it come to anything beyond two legged predictors.
"I shot the table" "I shot the table AGAIN!!" I have to give FULL CREDIT to a guy who is humble enough to admit (twice) that he did something pretty jerky and incompetent. We all need to just CALM DOWN and stop always trying to look "right" and being better than others. We do the best we can, and present our information -- that's how it should be. I'm going to TRUST the information and lack of agenda of anybody who readily admits it when he screws up and looks silly. Thanks for all you excellent ballistics info!
10mm is one of my favorite calibers, the amount of versatility it has is uncommon for semi-auto handguns. If we're talking duty/defense oriented shooting, Tangfolio 10mm models are my pick. They aren't the prettiest or the nicest guns out there, but if you need a work horse carry pistol that won't break the bank they are solid choices. I like Wilson Combat's XTP load for 10mm, warmer than what Hornady loads (I think they shy away from loading higher pressures in calibers meant for it like 10mm and 357 Sig) but still manageable recoil. Damn shame Federal doesn't load their HST in 10mm, because I'd love to see that. .357 Magnum does have a lot of merit to it, especially in more anti-gun states as revolvers bypass lots of anti-gun laws like magazine capacity bans. The Federal Barnes Expander round is definitely my favorite in that caliber, regardless of what kind of platform you push it through that bullet penetrates deeply and blows up nice and big. With proper training and intelligent decision making, I don't think anybody can go wrong with either caliber.
My daily carry is the Ruger SP101 in .357 mag. Some people have told me it's too heavy for their carry gun, but I've had it for so long I don't even notice it anymore. Besides, I used to carry the Beretta M9 while I was in the Army and that's even heavier so the weight doesn't bother me at all. I actually like it since it is a .357 mag and helps with the recoil.
I have the 3" version of the SP101. It's great. I don't see how it's weight is that big of an issue, it's reasonably light. People will complain about anything I guess.
I love both. 220 grain hardcast 10mm Underwood is a fucking ridiculous load. It will blow through a moose with a nasty wound cavity. I carry it as my sidearm in parker CO, where there's a lot of bears where I camp. 16 rounds of that gives me a better sense of security vs only 6 in my single shot 44mag.
Thanks for your response. I saw a post by someone else about a .44 Special, Hornady 165 grain defense round and decided to change to that for home protection, from my .45 long Colt semi-wad cutter. Without you RUclips guys, it would be very hard to find a cartridge that we think would be best for our needs. Great job!
What people generally misunderstand, IMO, is that a large wound cavity isn't what makes 10mm such a revered round. It's how far it carries its energy. A 9mm can make a nasty wound cavity, as well, but the energy it carries dissipates pretty quickly. It's like the difference between a sports car and a semi truck. One has a lot of horsepower, while the other one has a lot of torque. What would you prefer, a wound channel that expands and then tapers down to a tiny hole or a wound channel that's as wide from the start to the end?
So with almost a 3/4 inch shorter barrel and relatively same grain. The 357 magnum appears to be slightly more powerful as in greater velocity more energy etc. But then of course you offset that with the fact the 10 mm can carry quite a few more rounds. I like both rounds and my carry is a 357 gp100. So between the slightly more powerful 357 and more fire power 10 mm. I think it comes down to whether you like revolver or semi auto.
The 10mm is a little bigger in diameter than the 357 and can expand a little wider the 357 produces better velocity because it should have a better BC because it's smaller in diameter though you can't really go wrong with either because they both have a very broad range of different weights you can mess around with but yeah it does basically come down to if you like a semi auto or revolver more this video shows how similar the 2 are though both heavy rounds penetrated really deep and the 2 light ones penetrated about ideal if I want more power than 9mm or 40 these are my 2 rounds of choice
I love both calibers. Around my quiet town I'm constantly carrying a 3-in 5 shot 357 mag. When adventure into the city I carry a witness P Carry 10 mm (14+1) when venturing into North Georgia mountains I carry a 1911 10mm (5-in 8 shot) I like that little extra barrel for better ballistics in the woods, and shorter barrel with more rounds in the hoods. Man i just love guns! 🇺🇲💪
357 just does what was made for - taking care of business w/o any hesitation. Small 3 inch 357 for EDC is super weapon! 10mm is great but less pistol choices than the 357 platforms out there…
I thought about this a lot when trying to chose a bear gun. When it comes down to it there is only 2 real benefits to the .357 revolver. A .357 can be had for hundreds less than any 10mm on the market (Taurus .357), and it can shoot lighter .38 special loads. The glock 29 or 20 benefits are a larger diameter bullet with slightly better ballistics (after all 10mm is basically a .41 magnum when loaded hot, a step up from .357 mag), a better trigger in a self defense situation (single action vs double action of a revolver which is a heavier pull), it holds more rounds (twice as many for the small glock 29 vs a 5 rd revolver), and it has a little less perceived recoil than a revolver in my opinion. I am definitely not shitting on a .357 as a bear gun, and certainly not as a self defense gun, but I do think in almost every category the 10mm wins. Especially as a woods gun.
Love both cartridges, S&W M&P 8 shot revolver with 5" barrel is my favourite. Here in Canada, we are restricted to 10 shots in our handguns, so the 8 shots is not much of an issue. Love the revolvers balance, aiming sights, recoil damping weight, accessory rail, color, everything...
One of the most impressive gel test videos that I've ever seen was of an Underwood .357 Sig 125 gr JHP shot through a Glock 31. The expansion started at about 3/4 inch in and carved a large permanent cavity out to about 9 inches, with a tapering channel to the end of travel at about 18 inches. This looked to me like true .357 Magnum terminal ballistics in a semi-auto pistol.
I could never pick a favorite between these 2. I do however think the .357 is definitely a more versatile performer. I remember back in my silhouette days loading 180 and 200gr bullet at velocities far beyond what I'd attempt in a 10mm pistol, although the S&W 610 being an N-frame could probably get there without issue. As far a favorites go, in the past in .357 my 4" 586 would have been my first choice hands down! It was not only my first handgun purchase but also my first EDC, hunting handgun and silhouette revolver. But since I bought my Coonan, with it's closed breach it takes the velocity of a 5" gun to another level! All while reducing recoil considerably. In 10 mm it's again a tough call. It's ALWAYS been my 1006. I bought the first one I saw after a disappointing experience with an early Delta Elite. It's performed flawlessly since day one. But I recently put together a 10mm commander that shoots lights out and to date is about 900 rds in without a single malfunction. So in both cases it's a pick em!
Good lesson in how sectional density of bullets is overlooked when judging a cartridge's power. However, bullet construction is just as important as a factor.
The reputation of the 357 was made with the 125grn hp..you should have used that. I've seen emergency room footage and read the the results of many state police who used the 357. The terminal ballistics are not only effective..theyre gory. A shot in the chest cavity with the federal c357b 125 grn for example typically leaves a golf ball to baseball size hole on exit and blows out lung and heart tissue. Just say in the 357's track record is unrivaled as far as one shot stops
Edward Duran and the Underwood ammo he used is possibly closer to what the Remington 125 gr scalloped SJHP used to be. A lot of people believe factory ammo by Remington, Federal and Winchester have toned down the 125 gr in recent decades
Best comparison video I’ve seen on the 2 calibers I’ve never owned a 10mm but I’ve shot them. Owned plenty of 357 and I love the 686. I prefer the 357 for the versatility of ammo and being able to shoot 38’s. From your test I would feel comfortable carrying either rounds. I can see the appeal of the 10 mm tho. If was in bear country having over double the capacity in a powerful round is definitely a good thing.
@@mistermesir To clarify, the case groove slides up under the extractor, and is held there. The back of the case is supported by the slide like 10mm when the round goes off. Then it cycles normally. The small distance that the bullet must travel before it engages the barrel rifling does have a very minor effect on accuracy, but at normal pistol conflict ranges, you wont notice it. Also, it does not harm the barrel in any way.
A clay ballistic test between the 10mm vs the 45 super, both using underwood ammo. 165 gr and 200 gr respectively for the 10mm, and the 185gr and the 230 gr for the 45 super. May need to increase the recoil spring of the 45 acp pistol to at least a 20 pound spring. I use a 20 pound spring on my H&K USP.
I love my S&W Model 66-1 combat magnum. It's one of those classic revolvers from the 70's during S&W's hayday. It's an extremely well made revolver that is extremely accurate and reliable.
Well,I must admit ,knowing that you guys in the USA can buy what ever and where ever you want, Im very much jelous from my perspective. In my Country,357 is available,at least practice level ammo, but 10mm AUTO ammo ...hardly. So,here,if you want eficient handgun for "God forbid" situation on four legs...choose 357 and practice. A lot. By the years,I learned to rely on my shooting skill under stress and,if I don t stop bear with 5 piece of well placed 158 Hydra Shok ,how much I have in my Ruger SP-101 .. story over. Not only because "only " 5 shots but also because time. I believe,knowing the speed of brown bear moving ( 60km/h) it s very questionable how manny shots would anyone have time to shoot good. Precise. To be acountable. Time IS passing during usage of your handgun, revolver or pistol, it s all the same. So I truly believe that 10mm AUTO, 357 Magnum,45ACP ..they will all do the job as much as handgun cartidge can,but ...put the right thing in the countable place and do it as fast as possible. I apologise for gramacy mistakes.My English is not perfect.
I'm happy with the results for the .357, that should be good enough for anything I'll run into. I have two handguns in .357, a SP101 2 1/4" and a Blackhawk 6 1/2". Thinking of getting a Henry levergun in .357
It might be too late, but I wouldnt buy a Henry. I got one and it is tied with a Mossberg shotgun, that can shoot three different size loads, for being my worst gun buys. It cost more than regular rifles and sucks. It doesnt load the rounds well, especially if you go slow when using the lever. My uncle got one and he never uses his either. The best rifle I own is my grandfather's marlin. Unknown amount of rounds through it and I cant think of a single time it jammed. Just a great built gun. Only thing that has ever broke on it was the front sight somehow came undone. It just has black electrical tape on it now and it still shoots great.
I've got 2 - 357's, and 3 - 10 mm's, both are quite formidable caliber, however I really like the 10 mm better. The larger diameter bullets cause it to dump its energy a lot faster causing much more shock to soft tissue. Not to mention much higher capacity.
@@zoggrog8823 I have a 357 Magna I have never had any complaints From anything I ever shot It does have better penetration though So I can shoot 3 people The 10 mm can only shoot through 3 and a 1/2
Very good comparison, used highest power in both by using Underwood! Unlike many comparisons where they use the hottest of one caliber and lowest to mediocre in the other.
I have a S&W Model 66, which I have actually used in self defense, which is an old friend that I love and a recently aquired new Python, both awsome. For the 10mm, I think my Glock 20 is tough to beat, but I know a lot of guys like the long slide.
Picked up my Glock 29 yesterday. shot it today. I've never shot a 10mm im used to 9mm however, not too bad at all its definitely snappy but follow up shots are not bad at all. My new carry gun that packs a punch. Seeing this video 10mm can rival 357 and hold more rounds with heavier lead.
Suffice it to say, 10mm is pretty equivalent to the .357 Mag. That makes for a nice autoloader round. Personally, I stopped carrying my 10mm when I realized that the time I thought I was going to need to use it, it would have made my grandchildren deaf. I immediately switched back to the 9mm, which doesn't even make my ears ring. For civilian carry, 9mm. For going to battle, I'll take the 10mm.
"if not ever so slightly better" - How??? It delivers less energy with a lower sectional density at a lower velocity. Max loading to max loading, the .357 is noticeably more powerful than the 10mm.
@bilbonob548 I stand by my statement. Both Underwood hottest ammo for each. Underwood is one of the (if not the) hottest ammos available. .357 mag 125g 1600fps 710 ft-lbs .357 mag 158gr 1475 fps 763 ft-lbs 10mm 155gr 1500fps 775 ft-llbs
@@cornpop7805 You understand everyone can check underwoods own figures right? You aren't comparing like for like. You just went from arbitrary bullet selection to arbitrary bullet selection. You could have just as easily shown the 125g @ XTP JHP @ 802 ft.lbs for the .357 vs the 115gr xdefender of the 10mm @ 738ft.lbs. Or you could have compared the 155gr 10mm vs the 158g .357 magnum (670ft.lbs -10mm vs 790ft.lbs - .357 mag). The .357 is more powerful, no amount of misrepresentation of loadings will change the advantage in case capacity the .357 has. The hottest .357 is hotter than the hottest 10mm - that much is obvious on underwoods site, when you start encorporating other fullhouse boutique manufacturers it becomes even more apparent.
@bilbonob548 I went from the Ballistics 101 website, where both were the hottest shown there. There's no need for righteous indignation because no deception was intended.
@@cornpop7805 Fair enough, so then the website is wrong, as I just listed multiple from underwoods own website that were hotter. Either way, both cartridges have equivalent wall thicknesses, so actual pressures are determined more by the firearm - a full frame revolver can safely handle original spec .357 magnum. Again, the case capacity advantage is inevitably going to favor the .357.
C MJ The 627 is amazing. Some hate on TAURUS but I have a Smith 686 357magnum and the TRACKER is nipping at its heels... Almost shoulder to shoulder. And in some ways better. I have Glock 19,s and several other ( Name Brand ) Handguns but my 357 is my Hop along Cassidy survival gun lol
I have a Glock 20 10mm which I carry in the woods all the time. No other pistol carries as much energy and I trust it to function wet and/ or dirty. It’s beauty is it’s cold function over form. A stainless, wood grip revolver in 357 mag is a beautiful firearms classic. I own the Ruger GP100 7 shot. Mostly use it in the truck and at home.
I also have the 7 shot GP100 with 6" barrel and I love it. I carry a snubnose .357 for my concealed carry but I can't hit the broadside of a barn with it past 10 yards.
@Spectacular Spectacular 10mm is only marginally weaker than a magnum round. For a standard automatic caliber, that makes it an excellent choice. Obviously not the best in every aspect, but unlike the stronger rounds, there are far more frames that take it. Sure, you can carry a 45-70 revolver because "muh stopping power", but would you really?
@Spectacular Spectacular idiot. Read it slowly. I said the G20 carries more energy than any other pistol……that’s the full power 10mm round x 16 rounds. Duh
One quick suggestion: Buffalo Bore has a 180 grain hard-cast lead SWC load for the .357 mag. that travels over 1400 fps out of a 4" barrel. It has a gas check and never leaded my barrel in the least, and penetrates way beyond what you would normally expect from the .357! Give them a try. You will be surprised! God bless you and yours and keep up the great work!
I have to give you credit - most RUclipsrs would edit out the two table shots; a testimonial to your honesty to leave it in and give us all a smile. I do wonder this: a bullet striking low in a gel block has the weight of the gel above, and an immovable table surface below; a bullet striking high in a gel block has only a small percentage of the gel above, probably leading to a greater apparent temporary wound cavity size. It would be interesting to compare identical rounds in a gel block - one hitting low (but above the table (;-)) and one hitting high to see if, in slo-mo, there was any difference in TWC size. Seems like there should be.
psychothefear Revolver though ?. I think that's where the 10mm has a Advantage. You can buy a glock that holds 14. Rounds of 10mm. Good for carry and home Defense and back up for hunting.
357 magnun is and always will be relevant. My favorite 686 SW! But, I've recently been exposed to 10mm Glock 20. I like it. Seems smoother than 45acp Glock 21. I filp a coin on which to leave the house with.
I have a .357 4.25" gp100 match and a tangfolio 10mm hunter. Both great guns. Power is almost equal with the 180s I shoot. The 180 grizzly hard cast out of the .357 vs an equal 10mm round...I get better results and quite a bit less recoil with my eaa hunter..but it's also a longer sight picture and barrel. Both are great. Your video shows that.
colton healey I have kill many whitetails with my Ruger GP100 6 1/2 using 180 and 158 grizzly ammo also I shoot an elk 2 years ago with my Ruger super Redhawk 454 casull but I used a 45 LC 265+p hard cast grizzly ammo and I find this 2 calibers and ammo a beauty. I was considering a 10mm but after reading all the reviews between 10mm and 357 I think I’ll get more reloading supplies.
I cringe when I hear folks talk about how a 10mm is close to a .41 mag in performance. False. 10mm is very close to the .357 as you’ve shown. In either caliber you can find ammo whereby one outperforms the other because they (the calibers) are close in performance to begin with. I too, own and actually carry both. Love them both. I carry Buffalo Bore in both. Serious power - in both. My favorite .357 is the Ruger LCR and and the Springfield XDM Compact 10mm and the Glock 29SF, 10mm. All three guns have Buff Bore and are amazingly powerful rounds - but the 10mm’s are not close to a .41! Interesting item to note that in using the most powerful ammunition made, the .357 is the most powerful of the two calibers. But, the key is the quality and performance of the ammo. I personally do not carry hollow points because I want deep penetration. While the empirical data shows energy and muzzle velocity - I can tell you that the penetration of the 10mm is measured in feet, not inches. The heavier 10mm round will provide better wound channel damage and deeper penetration with Hard Cast. Also better weigh retention, as your test showed with the hollow points. 10 mm gives more rounds compared to the revolver. Ultimately it comes down to the mission - where you are carrying the gun and what you expect to encounter and how many targets you could encounter and how many missed shots you can afford before empty. Both cartridges will stop a bear with the PROPER shot placement, literally. Both are great calibers. As a side note, I use Underwood Xtreme Penetrators in my .45 Colt. Amazing ammo and weight retention. Also use it in my 9mm’s. Great content!!!
It's not entirely incorrect to say that it equals SOME .41 magnum loads. Hell, in terms of energy, some .357 loads can outperform a number of .41 magnum loads too. But at top end power, yeah, the .41 magnum still seriously overpowers both. The loads that they've developed for both the .357 and the 10mm are pretty insane.
This demonstrates why I like 10 mm. You're getting similar to .357 magnum ballistics, but with a 15+ round capacity. For 10mm, I'm a big fan of the Springfield Xdm in 10 mm. For .357 magnum, It's close between the Ruger GP100 and S&W 686. The Taurus Tracker is good budget option.
You're right, but 10 mm has a bad reputation when it comes to damaging guns. Not a real problem if someones lives in the US, because anyone can just order replacement parts over the internet, but that's a big NO abroad.
Have both! 10mm - Glock 40 MOS with the Venom RMR / .357 S&W 66 4" - love that revolver and shoot the best with it - had it a long time - will not sell it - Ever!
Barrel length makes a big impact on the performance of calibers like 357 magnum, 44 magnum or larger. A 5 " barrel on a 357 mag revolver would be more equal in comparing to the 4.6" barrel 10 mm semi Glock. 5" or more is when the 357 really starts to shine. Using equal grain Underwood or Double tap ammo in each. A S&W 686 Plus with 5" barrel is on my shopping list.
Gonna go with 357mag for multiple reasons. More guns chambered in it, wider ammo selection, better ammo availability and longer estabilished track record of effectiveness are just a few
My S&W model 19 4" barrel is my personal favorite sidearm. It's the only firearm of mine that is not in the safe. Great job with the shooting the table bit, funny stuff...
I like both my 357mags. One a self-defense weapon, a 2.5 inch 66, shooting a 158gr HP at 1050fps. The other a hunting weapon, a 686 8 3/8 inch barrel, shooting a 180gr HP at 1050fps.
For .357 the Ruger Gp100. For the 10mm the Glock 20, which has a heavier slide mass than the Glock 40, but I'd put in a threaded 6" barrel, compensator and RMR. As far as which one is better, tough choice. The .357 is simple can fire .38 loads, can be fired in a lever gun... But the 10mm is autoloading, you can shoot milder loads, or full power bear rounds, and they do make 10mm carbines, though expensive. Both can handle deer, and snake shot loads are available for both... tough choice. Recoil wise, I think the 10mm for me is more harsh than with the revolver, and I like the simplicity of manual of arms with the wheel gun, and the dual use of .38s. So I'd go with the .357. .38 solids are good on small game as well.
The slide on the Glock 40 is actually 3.6 oz heavier than the model 20.People are getting this idea that the slide is lighter because the (wrongfully) published weight of the entire gun is under 30 oz.on the website. My manual states that is is over 35 oz , & there is a video showing both guns & slides being weighed & it indeed over 35 oz. with a heavier slide. ruclips.net/video/NqDrCvQihR0/видео.html
I love my revolvers, but the Coonan .357, shitty finish and all, gets me smiling more. Can't believe they do that poor a job on the finish, though. Hell, 220 grit sandpaper would probably clean up the appearance significantly. I love all of my guns, otherwise I'd sell them. :) Really happy to have found this channel. Just saw KB in Taofledermous's comment section.
For me is 357 Magnum. In that caliber, I own a S&W 686 4”, a 627 “Model of 1989” (N frame unfluted cylinder) and Desert Eagle Mark VII. Love them all !!!
Hey guys! I wanted to apologize about not posting a video last week. I normally post a video every week, but I had too much on my plate last week and wasn’t able to post. I hope you can forgive me! Thanks for watching and thanks for the support!
Kentucky ballistic not a problem do what you can when you can greetings from UK England Essex great video but your having a FUBAR day lol shot your table 2 times. 💕🐺👌🔫
Kentucky Ballistics that means you gotta post 2 this week lol
125gr & 158gr XTP vs gold dot 125gr & 158gr BOTH by Underwood.
Kentucky Ballistics I swear if you do that 13-14 more times I'm unsubscribing 😆
Kentucky Ballistics thanks you for anything you get a chance to post, love your channel brother keep up the awesome videos
Crazy how Scott went from calm to insane in a few years 😂
Loud = entertaining for kids. Most of RUclips is comprised of kids so it only makes business sense.
not kids, just likely to keep atention rather than reading from a script for example @@StuninRub
I honestly think they are equals. I’m not sure if it’s what Cooper intended, but I see the 10mm as the semi auto equivalent to .357 Magnum. When both are loaded to full potential, they have nearly identical energy levels. I love both it really just comes down to revolver vs semi auto. I think these two calibers are the absolute best options for people who want the most power possible while still maintaining practicality in a carry gun.
I agree, these calibers are literally neck and neck in terms of on paper energy. I would only add that those who trust in grains of lead would favor 10mm, and those who put their faith in grains of powder would see an advantage in 357. Luckily Ruger chambered their Gp100 in 10mm auto. (You couldn't get it into the L frame, S&W?) So I can enjoy both.
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I do a search for 10mm vs. .357 magnum in 2023 and I find this old video of Scott doing a test.
No tactical T-rex.
No tables being deliberately shattered.
No watermelon.
No egg plants.
Excellent science.
Your channel has really evolved over the years. It is fun to see.
It's devolved in my opinion
I prefer 357. Been carrying a 686+ on my hip for about 7 years. As far as versatility goes with handgun cartridges that are fairly common, I think 357 is where it’s at. Thanks for the vid!
Love your reviews bud! Thank you for confirming that 357. And 10mm are pretty comparable, i'm more of a wheelgun guy these days but either platform would leave me feeling safe in the backcountry. Capacity is nice but simplicity of a revolver and 6, or 7 rounds is nice too. Reloads on revolvers aren't as terrible as everyone makes it out to be, practice makes progress.
Agree 💯
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Lol, video reactions:
357 fans: "this is why I like the 357"
10mm fans: "this is why I like the 10mm"
Me "there are no wrong answers....."
I shot the table......again. Glad you left that in. Really made me smile.
Lol! You’re welcome.
Great video - thanks! As I have mentioned in my own videos, the 10MM and the 357 Mag are my two favorite rounds. This test simply confirms this along with the use of heavier loads in each when it come to anything beyond two legged predictors.
After almost 100 years 357 still takes the cake
"I shot the table" "I shot the table AGAIN!!"
I have to give FULL CREDIT to a guy who is humble enough to admit (twice) that he did something pretty jerky and incompetent. We all need to just CALM DOWN and stop always trying to look "right" and being better than others. We do the best we can, and present our information -- that's how it should be. I'm going to TRUST the information and lack of agenda of anybody who readily admits it when he screws up and looks silly. Thanks for all you excellent ballistics info!
10mm is one of my favorite calibers, the amount of versatility it has is uncommon for semi-auto handguns. If we're talking duty/defense oriented shooting, Tangfolio 10mm models are my pick. They aren't the prettiest or the nicest guns out there, but if you need a work horse carry pistol that won't break the bank they are solid choices. I like Wilson Combat's XTP load for 10mm, warmer than what Hornady loads (I think they shy away from loading higher pressures in calibers meant for it like 10mm and 357 Sig) but still manageable recoil. Damn shame Federal doesn't load their HST in 10mm, because I'd love to see that.
.357 Magnum does have a lot of merit to it, especially in more anti-gun states as revolvers bypass lots of anti-gun laws like magazine capacity bans. The Federal Barnes Expander round is definitely my favorite in that caliber, regardless of what kind of platform you push it through that bullet penetrates deeply and blows up nice and big. With proper training and intelligent decision making, I don't think anybody can go wrong with either caliber.
Looking back at this, Scott's channel has greatly evolved!
My daily carry is the Ruger SP101 in .357 mag. Some people have told me it's too heavy for their carry gun, but I've had it for so long I don't even notice it anymore. Besides, I used to carry the Beretta M9 while I was in the Army and that's even heavier so the weight doesn't bother me at all. I actually like it since it is a .357 mag and helps with the recoil.
I have the 3" version of the SP101. It's great. I don't see how it's weight is that big of an issue, it's reasonably light. People will complain about anything I guess.
Officer: "Are you dealing drugs son?" KB: "No, that's to weigh my bullets. " LOL
I don't have a 10 mm..but my .357 Mag is a Ruger GP-100..tough as they come..very accurate.
I love both. 220 grain hardcast 10mm Underwood is a fucking ridiculous load. It will blow through a moose with a nasty wound cavity. I carry it as my sidearm in parker CO, where there's a lot of bears where I camp. 16 rounds of that gives me a better sense of security vs only 6 in my single shot 44mag.
do you think that 10mm would work on The Shape?
Yes Ruger 357 GP100 with buffalo bore 180 gr JHP - 1500 fps and 900 foot-pounds muzzle energy!
Thanks for your response. I saw a post by someone else about a .44 Special, Hornady 165 grain defense round and decided to change to that for home protection, from my .45 long Colt semi-wad cutter. Without you RUclips guys, it would be very hard to find a cartridge that we think would be best for our needs. Great job!
Last comment on this... With 10mm you're getting a lot of bang for your buck. A superb balance of firepower and capacity in pistol form.
.357 is the BEST caliber ever invented..just one man's opinion..
God bless AMERICA..👍🏻🇺🇲
No that would be .44 magnum
What people generally misunderstand, IMO, is that a large wound cavity isn't what makes 10mm such a revered round. It's how far it carries its energy. A 9mm can make a nasty wound cavity, as well, but the energy it carries dissipates pretty quickly. It's like the difference between a sports car and a semi truck. One has a lot of horsepower, while the other one has a lot of torque. What would you prefer, a wound channel that expands and then tapers down to a tiny hole or a wound channel that's as wide from the start to the end?
So with almost a 3/4 inch shorter barrel and relatively same grain. The 357 magnum appears to be slightly more powerful as in greater velocity more energy etc. But then of course you offset that with the fact the 10 mm can carry quite a few more rounds. I like both rounds and my carry is a 357 gp100. So between the slightly more powerful 357 and more fire power 10 mm. I think it comes down to whether you like revolver or semi auto.
I like carrying my GP100. Will never Jam, more accurate (for me), and I can break a skull with a pistol whip if it comes down to it lol.
The 10mm is a little bigger in diameter than the 357 and can expand a little wider the 357 produces better velocity because it should have a better BC because it's smaller in diameter though you can't really go wrong with either because they both have a very broad range of different weights you can mess around with but yeah it does basically come down to if you like a semi auto or revolver more this video shows how similar the 2 are though both heavy rounds penetrated really deep and the 2 light ones penetrated about ideal if I want more power than 9mm or 40 these are my 2 rounds of choice
if you ever shoot that thing without ear protection, they are gonna ring for a week
remember you can just get the 357sig glock 32..
I love both calibers.
Around my quiet town I'm constantly carrying a 3-in 5 shot 357 mag.
When adventure into the city I carry a witness P Carry 10 mm (14+1) when venturing into North Georgia mountains I carry a 1911 10mm (5-in 8 shot) I like that little extra barrel for better ballistics in the woods, and shorter barrel with more rounds in the hoods. Man i just love guns! 🇺🇲💪
Adding that Will F clip after you hit the table gave me a good laugh, thanks.
Excellent vid, thanks for taking the time to make it.
That table brought that shit on itself.
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Thats one thing ive heard everybody say that their 357 revolvers are their most favorite in their collection.
357 just does what was made for - taking care of business w/o any hesitation. Small 3 inch 357 for EDC is super weapon! 10mm is great but less pistol choices than the 357 platforms out there…
I thought about this a lot when trying to chose a bear gun. When it comes down to it there is only 2 real benefits to the .357 revolver. A .357 can be had for hundreds less than any 10mm on the market (Taurus .357), and it can shoot lighter .38 special loads. The glock 29 or 20 benefits are a larger diameter bullet with slightly better ballistics (after all 10mm is basically a .41 magnum when loaded hot, a step up from .357 mag), a better trigger in a self defense situation (single action vs double action of a revolver which is a heavier pull), it holds more rounds (twice as many for the small glock 29 vs a 5 rd revolver), and it has a little less perceived recoil than a revolver in my opinion. I am definitely not shitting on a .357 as a bear gun, and certainly not as a self defense gun, but I do think in almost every category the 10mm wins. Especially as a woods gun.
Love both cartridges, S&W M&P 8 shot revolver with 5" barrel is my favourite. Here in Canada, we are restricted to 10 shots in our handguns, so the 8 shots is not much of an issue. Love the revolvers balance, aiming sights, recoil damping weight, accessory rail, color, everything...
One of the most impressive gel test videos that I've ever seen was of an Underwood .357 Sig 125 gr JHP shot through a Glock 31. The expansion started at about 3/4 inch in and carved a large permanent cavity out to about 9 inches, with a tapering channel to the end of travel at about 18 inches. This looked to me like true .357 Magnum terminal ballistics in a semi-auto pistol.
I could never pick a favorite between these 2. I do however think the .357 is definitely a more versatile performer. I remember back in my silhouette days loading 180 and 200gr bullet at velocities far beyond what I'd attempt in a 10mm pistol, although the S&W 610 being an N-frame could probably get there without issue. As far a favorites go, in the past in .357 my 4" 586 would have been my first choice hands down! It was not only my first handgun purchase but also my first EDC, hunting handgun and silhouette revolver. But since I bought my Coonan, with it's closed breach it takes the velocity of a 5" gun to another level! All while reducing recoil considerably. In 10 mm it's again a tough call. It's ALWAYS been my 1006. I bought the first one I saw after a disappointing experience with an early Delta Elite. It's performed flawlessly since day one. But I recently put together a 10mm commander that shoots lights out and to date is about 900 rds in without a single malfunction. So in both cases it's a pick em!
.357, GP 100 and Rossi 92. 180 gr. RFN.GC. 1250fps and 1750 fps. Lil'gun or H110.
Well....how far above the 10mm velocities are you able to get with those 180-200 grain 357 pills?
All jokes aside I like them both also. I think the only way to solve the Dilemma is to own one of each. You can never have too many guns.
I love how you don't edit out your misses and worry about all the commandos criticizing you.
Good lesson in how sectional density of bullets is overlooked when judging a cartridge's power. However, bullet construction is just as important as a factor.
Dang he bulked up HUGE since then
@@goldenglazed3767 i believe it 🤣🫡
Dude I had the same thought, I came to the comments to see if anybody was talking about it 😂
10mm is my favorite semi auto handgun round. .357 is my favorite round hands down.
The reputation of the 357 was made with the 125grn hp..you should have used that.
I've seen emergency room footage and read the the results of many state police who used the 357.
The terminal ballistics are not only effective..theyre gory.
A shot in the chest cavity with the federal c357b 125 grn for example typically leaves a golf ball to baseball size hole on exit and blows out lung and heart tissue.
Just say in the 357's track record is unrivaled as far as one shot stops
P. Tigris he did use a 125 grain hollow point.
Edward Duran and the Underwood ammo he used is possibly closer to what the Remington 125 gr scalloped SJHP used to be. A lot of people believe factory ammo by Remington, Federal and Winchester have toned down the 125 gr in recent decades
That's the first time I've ever seen digital scale used for anything other than cocaine. Who knew?
Thanks for being consistent with the ammo manufacturer across the board.
I'm a crime/mystery writer and I found this to be a great video and very helpful. Thanks for taking the time to give so much information :-)
357 has always been a good contender! Just imagine that in a carbine!
My first wife used a Marlin lever gun in .357. It's pretty good for deer up to 50 yards and recoil is like a .22.
Ruger RedHawk 8 shot .357 magnum. Legendary and a beautiful gun!
Best comparison video I’ve seen on the 2 calibers I’ve never owned a 10mm but I’ve shot them. Owned plenty of 357 and I love the 686. I prefer the 357 for the versatility of ammo and being able to shoot 38’s. From your test I would feel comfortable carrying either rounds. I can see the appeal of the 10 mm tho. If was in bear country having over double the capacity in a powerful round is definitely a good thing.
You can shoot .40 in the Glock 20. It works fine, and gives you options, including many other caliber conversions.
@@mistermesir 40 works in 10mm. It just works. Does not need to headspace off the case rim.
@@mistermesir To clarify, the case groove slides up under the extractor, and is held there. The back of the case is supported by the slide like 10mm when the round goes off. Then it cycles normally. The small distance that the bullet must travel before it engages the barrel rifling does have a very minor effect on accuracy, but at normal pistol conflict ranges, you wont notice it. Also, it does not harm the barrel in any way.
The advantage of the 10 is the semi auto platform that can hold 15 rounds. 357 is a bit more potent but it's close. Advantge 10 mil for capacity
Plus recoil is much better!
10mm full-house loads are ever so slightly more potent. Let's just say the two are comparable.
Happily carrying a new 686+ 3" for 7 months now. Remington 158g sjhp. Old school and sweet.
Great video!
Love that you didn’t edit out shooting the table. We all make mistakes👍🏻
.357 can penetrate a little deeper but 10mm can hit slightly harder. About an even match. Underwood vs. Underwood is the perfect match
The standard load for 10mm is 180gr. I would like to have seen that load.
Slightly? Your average 10mm load is 200-300 ft lbs more powerful. Hard cast 10mm loads will also penetrate deeper than 357
A clay ballistic test between the 10mm vs the 45 super, both using underwood ammo. 165 gr and 200 gr respectively for the 10mm, and the 185gr and the 230 gr for the 45 super. May need to increase the recoil spring of the 45 acp pistol to at least a 20 pound spring. I use a 20 pound spring on my H&K USP.
I love my S&W Model 66-1 combat magnum. It's one of those classic revolvers from the 70's during S&W's hayday. It's an extremely well made revolver that is extremely accurate and reliable.
Me too. I'm lucky everytime i pulled it out for protection my targets disappeared, without firing a shot.
Mine i think is a 66-4 w/4" barrel.
Well,I must admit ,knowing that you guys in the USA can buy what ever and where ever you want, Im very much jelous from my perspective.
In my Country,357 is available,at least practice level ammo, but 10mm AUTO ammo ...hardly.
So,here,if you want eficient handgun for "God forbid" situation on four legs...choose 357 and practice.
A lot.
By the years,I learned to rely on my shooting skill under stress and,if I don t stop bear with 5 piece of well placed 158 Hydra Shok ,how much I have in my Ruger SP-101 .. story over.
Not only because "only " 5 shots but also because time.
I believe,knowing the speed of brown bear moving ( 60km/h) it s very questionable how manny shots would anyone have time to shoot good.
Precise. To be acountable.
Time IS passing during usage of your handgun, revolver or pistol, it s all the same.
So I truly believe that 10mm AUTO, 357 Magnum,45ACP ..they will all do the job as much as handgun cartidge can,but ...put the right thing in the countable place and do it as fast as possible.
I apologise for gramacy mistakes.My English is not perfect.
I'm happy with the results for the .357, that should be good enough for anything I'll run into. I have two handguns in .357, a SP101 2 1/4" and a Blackhawk 6 1/2". Thinking of getting a Henry levergun in .357
It might be too late, but I wouldnt buy a Henry. I got one and it is tied with a Mossberg shotgun, that can shoot three different size loads, for being my worst gun buys. It cost more than regular rifles and sucks. It doesnt load the rounds well, especially if you go slow when using the lever. My uncle got one and he never uses his either. The best rifle I own is my grandfather's marlin. Unknown amount of rounds through it and I cant think of a single time it jammed. Just a great built gun. Only thing that has ever broke on it was the front sight somehow came undone. It just has black electrical tape on it now and it still shoots great.
I've got 2 - 357's, and 3 - 10 mm's, both are quite formidable caliber, however I really like the 10 mm better. The larger diameter bullets cause it to dump its energy a lot faster causing much more shock to soft tissue. Not to mention much higher capacity.
10mm is a good round but ill take 357 all day
.357 is less powerful
@@zoggrog8823 I have a 357 Magna I have never had any complaints From anything I ever shot It does have better penetration though So I can shoot 3 people The 10 mm can only shoot through 3 and a 1/2
"Ok! Were gonna start with a 357 magnum" I just smiled at that point😁and seing that beautiful smith & wesson just made my day.
Very good comparison, used highest power in both by using Underwood! Unlike many comparisons where they use the hottest of one caliber and lowest to mediocre in the other.
Thanks man!
I have a S&W Model 66, which I have actually used in self defense, which is an old friend that I love and a recently aquired new Python, both awsome. For the 10mm, I think my Glock 20 is tough to beat, but I know a lot of guys like the long slide.
Do you mind telling the story? I love my model 66 as well
Picked up my Glock 29 yesterday. shot it today. I've never shot a 10mm im used to 9mm however, not too bad at all its definitely snappy but follow up shots are not bad at all. My new carry gun that packs a punch. Seeing this video 10mm can rival 357 and hold more rounds with heavier lead.
Suffice it to say, 10mm is pretty equivalent to the .357 Mag.
That makes for a nice autoloader round.
Personally, I stopped carrying my 10mm when I realized that the time I thought I was going to need to use it, it would have made my grandchildren deaf. I immediately switched back to the 9mm, which doesn't even make my ears ring.
For civilian carry, 9mm. For going to battle, I'll take the 10mm.
"if not ever so slightly better" - How??? It delivers less energy with a lower sectional density at a lower velocity. Max loading to max loading, the .357 is noticeably more powerful than the 10mm.
@bilbonob548
I stand by my statement.
Both Underwood hottest ammo for each. Underwood is one of the (if not the) hottest ammos available.
.357 mag 125g 1600fps 710 ft-lbs
.357 mag 158gr 1475 fps 763 ft-lbs
10mm 155gr 1500fps 775 ft-llbs
@@cornpop7805 You understand everyone can check underwoods own figures right? You aren't comparing like for like. You just went from arbitrary bullet selection to arbitrary bullet selection.
You could have just as easily shown the 125g @ XTP JHP @ 802 ft.lbs for the .357 vs the 115gr xdefender of the 10mm @ 738ft.lbs. Or you could have compared the 155gr 10mm vs the 158g .357 magnum (670ft.lbs -10mm vs 790ft.lbs - .357 mag).
The .357 is more powerful, no amount of misrepresentation of loadings will change the advantage in case capacity the .357 has. The hottest .357 is hotter than the hottest 10mm - that much is obvious on underwoods site, when you start encorporating other fullhouse boutique manufacturers it becomes even more apparent.
@bilbonob548
I went from the Ballistics 101 website, where both were the hottest shown there. There's no need for righteous indignation because no deception was intended.
@@cornpop7805 Fair enough, so then the website is wrong, as I just listed multiple from underwoods own website that were hotter. Either way, both cartridges have equivalent wall thicknesses, so actual pressures are determined more by the firearm - a full frame revolver can safely handle original spec .357 magnum. Again, the case capacity advantage is inevitably going to favor the .357.
I run a 6.5" Taurus 357 and I love it, recoil is not as bad as I expected. I use hand loaded 158gr Hornady bullets flying about 1450fps.
S&W 586 L comp 357m : edc
Glock 20 10mm : hogs, predators, etc., outdoor
S&W 629 stealth hunter 44m : bears, outdoor
Springfield TRP 1911 10mm : replacement option for glock20
I have a 627 Tracker in .357 Magnum and a Rock Island mid sized 1911 in 10mm love both calibers.
C MJ The 627 is amazing. Some hate on TAURUS but I have a Smith 686 357magnum and the TRACKER is nipping at its heels... Almost shoulder to shoulder. And in some ways better. I have Glock 19,s and several other ( Name Brand ) Handguns but my 357 is my Hop along Cassidy survival gun lol
Nice to see 125g in 357mag performance. Its what I put in mine for edc.
I have a Glock 20 10mm which I carry in the woods all the time. No other pistol carries as much energy and I trust it to function wet and/ or dirty. It’s beauty is it’s cold function over form.
A stainless, wood grip revolver in 357 mag is a beautiful firearms classic. I own the Ruger GP100 7 shot. Mostly use it in the truck and at home.
I also have the 7 shot GP100 with 6" barrel and I love it. I carry a snubnose .357 for my concealed carry but I can't hit the broadside of a barn with it past 10 yards.
@Spectacular Spectacular let’s hear the list troll
@Spectacular Spectacular as I suspected then. Thank you for freeing me of further replies. Thank you indeed.
@Spectacular Spectacular 10mm is only marginally weaker than a magnum round. For a standard automatic caliber, that makes it an excellent choice. Obviously not the best in every aspect, but unlike the stronger rounds, there are far more frames that take it. Sure, you can carry a 45-70 revolver because "muh stopping power", but would you really?
@Spectacular Spectacular idiot. Read it slowly. I said the G20 carries more energy than any other pistol……that’s the full power 10mm round x 16 rounds. Duh
One quick suggestion: Buffalo Bore has a 180 grain hard-cast lead SWC load for the .357 mag. that travels over 1400 fps out of a 4" barrel. It has a gas check and never leaded my barrel in the least, and penetrates way beyond what you would normally expect from the .357! Give them a try. You will be surprised! God bless you and yours and keep up the great work!
I would question that velocity! If true, they are way over pressure limit on most 357's.
Only ever shot 357 in my GP100, but there is no way in hell I'd wanna get hit by any of those rounds used here! Love your material!
I have to give you credit - most RUclipsrs would edit out the two table shots; a testimonial to your honesty to leave it in and give us all a smile. I do wonder this: a bullet striking low in a gel block has the weight of the gel above, and an immovable table surface below; a bullet striking high in a gel block has only a small percentage of the gel above, probably leading to a greater apparent temporary wound cavity size. It would be interesting to compare identical rounds in a gel block - one hitting low (but above the table (;-)) and one hitting high to see if, in slo-mo, there was any difference in TWC size. Seems like there should be.
Ahhhhh...the early days of KB. Still a cool video, Scotty!
.357 Magnum is a great round. I bought a Smith and Wesson model 19-4 4inch barrel for $300, I fucking love it. Also, I can run .38 special through it.
psychothefear Revolver though ?. I think that's where the 10mm has a Advantage. You can buy a glock that holds 14. Rounds of 10mm. Good for carry and home Defense and back up for hunting.
If 357 mag. Had a semi Automatic gun.. that would be bad ass
There's a Desert Eagle chambered in .357 Magnum, you are welcome
357 magnun is and always will be relevant. My favorite 686 SW! But, I've recently been exposed to 10mm Glock 20. I like it. Seems smoother than 45acp Glock 21. I filp a coin on which to leave the house with.
Thank you, Scott. I had pondered the two myself and now I know. Buying a .357 soon with a four inch barrel.
You acted so calm and proper back then. You are so much better now 😎🤟🏼🇺🇸
PLEASE keep making videos. You are awesome and I love your information videos.
Watching this old video makes me realize Scott used to be a 9mm, now he’s a big 44 magnum stud. (No Diddy)
I have a .357 4.25" gp100 match and a tangfolio 10mm hunter. Both great guns. Power is almost equal with the 180s I shoot. The 180 grizzly hard cast out of the .357 vs an equal 10mm round...I get better results and quite a bit less recoil with my eaa hunter..but it's also a longer sight picture and barrel. Both are great. Your video shows that.
colton healey I have kill many whitetails with my Ruger GP100 6 1/2 using 180 and 158 grizzly ammo also I shoot an elk 2 years ago with my Ruger super Redhawk 454 casull but I used a 45 LC 265+p hard cast grizzly ammo and I find this 2 calibers and ammo a beauty. I was considering a 10mm but after reading all the reviews between 10mm and 357 I think I’ll get more reloading supplies.
My choice is the 10 mm; I carry both the G 20 and the G29. My ammo of choice is the Underwood 200 grain XTP JHP.Great videos; keep 'em coming!
Thanks man!
I like 357 revolvers..always have and always will...love my Ruger GP100 4" stainless
Hahah. I loved your Will Farrel edit. Great video !
I cringe when I hear folks talk about how a 10mm is close to a .41 mag in performance. False.
10mm is very close to the .357 as you’ve shown. In either caliber you can find ammo whereby one outperforms the other because they (the calibers) are close in performance to begin with.
I too, own and actually carry both. Love them both. I carry Buffalo Bore in both. Serious power - in both. My favorite .357 is the Ruger LCR and and the Springfield XDM Compact 10mm and the Glock 29SF, 10mm. All three guns have Buff Bore and are amazingly powerful rounds - but the 10mm’s are not close to a .41! Interesting item to note that in using the most powerful ammunition made, the .357 is the most powerful of the two calibers.
But, the key is the quality and performance of the ammo. I personally do not carry hollow points because I want deep penetration. While the empirical data shows energy and muzzle velocity - I can tell you that the penetration of the 10mm is measured in feet, not inches. The heavier 10mm round will provide better wound channel damage and deeper penetration with Hard Cast. Also better weigh retention, as your test showed with the hollow points. 10 mm gives more rounds compared to the revolver. Ultimately it comes down to the mission - where you are carrying the gun and what you expect to encounter and how many targets you could encounter and how many missed shots you can afford before empty. Both cartridges will stop a bear with the PROPER shot placement, literally. Both are great calibers.
As a side note, I use Underwood Xtreme Penetrators in my .45 Colt. Amazing ammo and weight retention. Also use it in my 9mm’s.
Great content!!!
It's not entirely incorrect to say that it equals SOME .41 magnum loads. Hell, in terms of energy, some .357 loads can outperform a number of .41 magnum loads too. But at top end power, yeah, the .41 magnum still seriously overpowers both.
The loads that they've developed for both the .357 and the 10mm are pretty insane.
Round for round, .357 Mag & may it have another 83yrs of versatility.
My carry .357 is Ruger SP 101 2 1/4 with 125 gr. Very good combo for where I live. Switch to 158 or 180s for field work, died pork tells no lies.
Awesome man. Thanks for watching.
S&W 686-6 357 Magnum and Glock 40. I like the long barrel. Thanks for the video.
This demonstrates why I like 10 mm.
You're getting similar to .357 magnum ballistics, but with a 15+ round capacity.
For 10mm, I'm a big fan of the Springfield Xdm in 10 mm.
For .357 magnum, It's close between the Ruger GP100 and S&W 686. The Taurus Tracker is good budget option.
I just bought the XDM Elite compact in 10 as my first gun, I fuckin LOVE this thing. Next will be a Hellcat or a Hellcat pro, can't decide which one.
You're right, but 10 mm has a bad reputation when it comes to damaging guns. Not a real problem if someones lives in the US, because anyone can just order replacement parts over the internet, but that's a big NO abroad.
@@Neomalthusiano yes, and more so, the ammo availability & diversity makes a 357 a no brainer for most non US folks.
XD pistols are trash.
Wake me up when the 357 has a mag cap of 15+1
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Los5513 can't shoot a glock lol
Ios5513 what a half assed abortion
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It’s sad seeing people try to top what is obviously a perfect burn
Skye Michael perfect burn? That sounded like a 10 year old that learned a new curse word mate
Wow, old school! Roosters instead of t-rexes, no intentional table damage and no sound effects. 😁
Have both! 10mm - Glock 40 MOS with the Venom RMR / .357 S&W 66 4" - love that revolver and shoot the best with it - had it a long time - will not sell it - Ever!
Barrel length makes a big impact on the performance of calibers like 357 magnum, 44 magnum or larger. A 5 " barrel on a 357 mag revolver would be more equal in comparing to the 4.6" barrel 10 mm semi Glock. 5" or more is when the 357 really starts to shine. Using equal grain Underwood or Double tap ammo in each. A S&W 686 Plus with 5" barrel is on my shopping list.
Holy the results were so close!!! Basically either one is great!
Gonna go with 357mag for multiple reasons. More guns chambered in it, wider ammo selection, better ammo availability and longer estabilished track record of effectiveness are just a few
That was great. I keep 3 357 magnum’s and 2 10mmGlock pistols. These are my favorite caliber’s
My S&W model 19 4" barrel is my personal favorite sidearm. It's the only firearm of mine that is not in the safe. Great job with the shooting the table bit, funny stuff...
I love my 6" Python I have had it since late 70s. Maybe last gun I give away to family before I go see my maker.
I really like both calibers, you cant go wrong with either.
I like both my 357mags. One a self-defense weapon, a 2.5 inch 66, shooting a 158gr HP at 1050fps. The other a hunting weapon, a 686 8 3/8 inch barrel, shooting a 180gr HP at 1050fps.
Great video! I guess I'm old school.. I have a six inch model 27 (.357 mag) that I've owned since 1977 that I just love.
Nothing wrong with that.
SuperLike for the crucial Wedding Crashers clip. Great video my guy.
Thanks 🤙
For .357 the Ruger Gp100. For the 10mm the Glock 20, which has a heavier slide mass than the Glock 40, but I'd put in a threaded 6" barrel, compensator and RMR. As far as which one is better, tough choice. The .357 is simple can fire .38 loads, can be fired in a lever gun... But the 10mm is autoloading, you can shoot milder loads, or full power bear rounds, and they do make 10mm carbines, though expensive. Both can handle deer, and snake shot loads are available for both... tough choice. Recoil wise, I think the 10mm for me is more harsh than with the revolver, and I like the simplicity of manual of arms with the wheel gun, and the dual use of .38s. So I'd go with the .357. .38 solids are good on small game as well.
The slide on the Glock 40 is actually 3.6 oz heavier than the model 20.People are getting this idea that the slide is lighter because the (wrongfully) published weight of the entire gun is under 30 oz.on the website. My manual states that is is over 35 oz , & there is a video showing both guns & slides being weighed & it indeed over 35 oz. with a heavier slide. ruclips.net/video/NqDrCvQihR0/видео.html
I love my revolvers, but the Coonan .357, shitty finish and all, gets me smiling more. Can't believe they do that poor a job on the finish, though. Hell, 220 grit sandpaper would probably clean up the appearance significantly. I love all of my guns, otherwise I'd sell them. :) Really happy to have found this channel. Just saw KB in Taofledermous's comment section.
In 10mm i gotta go with the Colt Delta Elite.
357 i gotta go with the COONAN!
Good job bro, like always nice vids!
Never shot a 10mm but I really like my Model 28 Highway Patrolman in .357 magnum.
me too man my favorite revolver and pistol I own!!!
I love my new 686+ and my model 19-3, classics
Love the new Ruger SR1911. Really well built, reliable gun and affordable. One of the best 1911s I've ever owned and I've had quite a few!
Yes those are pretty sweet!
For me is 357 Magnum. In that caliber, I own a S&W 686 4”, a 627 “Model of 1989” (N frame unfluted cylinder) and Desert Eagle Mark VII. Love them all !!!