Should You Read: VINLAND SAGA
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- Опубликовано: 5 июл 2024
- A short look at Vinland Saga by Makoto Yukimura.
Thorfinn is a young viking boy. One day his life is completely turned around through a tragedy. Then he's thrust into a world of battles, political plots, revenge, and a quest for purpose. All put alongside some downright gorgeous artwork, strong supporting characters, and a visceral and real journey of a young man's personal development.
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Yeah, the biggest strength of the series is how it’s themes and their progression are showcased through the characters. While the series changes, the characters, tones, situations and settings change too so you’re right, it isn't very good for people that look for one specific thing such as only blood and gore or only one perspective on things. I think this becomes increasingly more obvious towards the end of the second arc.
Though it is understandable that people might drop it since the following arcs are drastically different. Everyone enjoys different things after all
Yeah the jump from Arc 1 to 2 was surprising and then 2 to 3. VS certainly took some directions I wasn't expecting after the first arc. My hope is people know that going into it so they won't so readily drop the series
The art was breathtaking and has improved a lot, I’ve loved seeing Yukimira evolve
Where do you read most of your manga? Do you have a specific site or app you use?
Yes after edgy and forcd mallowing out (implified arcs) it get at its best. Very simplified.
I mean it really is interesting how agfter the darkfarm arc he has to face with his pat while keeping true to hi new ideals, and hilde is great there. And unlike the first arc, he cant just fight out of situations. Which make it such a good challenge for him.And ther are even fights which is th best of both and his struggle ensuing from that .
The breaker season 3 (Eternal Force) chapter 1 is finally here. I wait so long😭 go Heck this out best manhwa ever
Yes.
Aw hell yeah. One of the big four of manga! You should also check out Vagabond if you ever get the chance. Keep up the great work Gee!!
Thanks man! I'm actually up to date on Vagabond but that's a series I'll be waiting to talk about for a while I think. Cheers!!
I'm new to manga, what's the other big 2? I assume beserk is one
@@hauntering_j1249 From what I've heard around in the manga community (this was a while back so it might have changed since then), Berserk, Vagabond, Vinland Saga, and Kingdom
vinland saga is so dope because, as a dane, seeing a japanese persons take on historical figures i've learned about in school is really cool! also the war takes place in Jutland which is where i live!
That's awesome! Have you found the history to line up well? From my cursory look, it seems like Yukimura got a lot of the timing/characters/events pretty close to the real history. I mean at least in a broad sense! I was surprised to see characters like Thorkell or Askeladd were actually based on historical characters
Should you read Vinland Saga? I mean, absolutely, no need to add about anything. Thr best overall story I've had myself thrown into, the first two arcs blew me away in all ways possible. Third one kinda let me down, it's gempacked with amazing content, but brought down by all the comedy for me. Fourth arc began poorly but started delivering amazing chapters. Like the one from two months ago is downright one of, if not my favorite chapter in the series. It just broke me with how good it handled the emotional weight of the moment.
Not to mention another chapter from like... 5 months ago, another banger with all those mind blowing visions. Damn.
Vinland Saga is a masterpiece.
I had the exact same reaction to the third arc. And I think I can name the exact panel you're thinking of with that favorite chapter! Yukimura's art really lands those scenes. Definitely a series my eyes have enjoyed reading!
@@SeaGee now I'll be off to read Vagabond (which I started but never got to finish) or Kingdom... Which one do I pick tho 😔
I realy liked the third arc and the second, its good but very deprssing, its good seeing him get better. But yeeah hilde and the baltic sea war with his newfound principles, chefs kiss.
Thanks for your opinion👍👍
Cheers! 👍
Any more recommendations like this except kingdom, berserk, vagabond ??
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I enjoyed Blade of the Immortal but veeeery different art style, won't be for everyone. But yeah Claymore's a good call
you should do a "should you watch/read: one piece"
a bit of a titan, i know, but your comprehensive "should you read" series are perfect for sending to a friend to get them to start on a certain series. keep it up!
Thanks! Man One Piece will be an absolute deep dive. I haven't done a full reread in years! It's up there with Hajime no Ippo in the "I want to reread but oh lord the time required" basket
One piece exists!
I attempted reading vinland saga. First chapter in, I was overwhelmed because of the magnificent art. I thought to myself was I wasn't ready to experience the manga. Definitely would be worth.
It's beautiful right! Some of those panels of Iceland make me really want to go there someday. The whole aesthetic is gorgeous
I'm not reading a manga about pacifism, thank you.
I totally disagree with that. This thought has been maturing in my head for a long time and I don't want it to stay only with me, so I'm writing a comment and that's why I'll shoot a video on this topic someday. By the way, I'm just one of those people who read the prologue (about the first 60 chapters) was very inspired, but after it finished my disappointed started to rise very quicly.
The message of the work.
so, my main problem and sadness is that many authors are pushing an incredibly stupid, but pretentious idea that violence does not solve anything, murder is very bad, being strong does not mean defeating everyone, and so on. 1) There are already thousands of works, in particular books on this topic, I just don't understand why these boring and already considered thoughts are made a central part of the work. 2) The narrative takes place within the framework of the Middle Ages. I assure you in those days there were simply no such things as the author of the work discusses. Not a single Viking, robbing monasteries and killing parishioners, thought "am I doing everything right?". Even the most devout Christian aristocrats who pray 10 times a day and wear clothes with fleas (especially to suffer) still calmly violated almost all the biblical commandments (neither kill nor steal, etc.) and did not worry about it for a second of their lives. 3) Perhaps you will say: yes, then people were cruel, but this manga is also about what is happening now, the author wants to leave us readers a certain message, even if it is not realistic. a) leaving the message "killing is bad" is not at all banal, as well as saying that the earth is round. All but a handful of people already agree with you, why try to prove it? b) it's just not true. Here is another important observation that I have long wanted to express. Creators just don't understand warriors. The creator with a subtle mental organization imagines that the warrior will be dreamed of as thousands of people killed by him will come to him in dreams and torture him (literally a scene from the manga). But no. The warriors just don't care. People who like to fight go to war. And the psyche of these people is so strong that it can withstand anything else. I'm sure they sleep much better than a lot of modern zoomers. (To confirm this, you can just read the ancient literature. I really liked odyssey at the time. Much better than Illiada, I recommend it. After reading it, you will perfectly understand how the ancestors treated the murder of the guilty and innocent.)
And against this background, the message of such authors who go against the majority and offer something of their own looks great for me. For example, the Highline in Starship Troopers.
Plot
After the prologue, the plot is simply boring, there is nothing to add or subtract. I really liked the review on "boys of the twentieth century" on this channel. And in this manga, starting from chapter 40, the plot was so interesting that I read it overnight, almost missing university. And I believe that the only measure of the quality of the plot is the reader's interest. More precisely, not quite so, but this is the first and most important indicator. So this manga is just not interesting, there are no plot twists, unpredictability, or anything else that makes you read on. Ten chapters after the end of the prologue (during the events on the farm) - I have already fully realized in which direction the story will develop and where it will end. The only thing that motivated me was the hope for the return of what I observed in the prologue, but this did not happen.
Characters
Not a single truly interesting or unique character. Torkin is part Jesus, part vagabond (from the manga) and part hero of your favorite shonen with overcoming. A big Viking who likes to fight (maybe Torvil, I don't remember his name heh) - kenpachi zaraki from bleach or any character who loves fights. Knot is a blind black man from bleach or any character who wants the common good with cruel methods and the least, but still with blood. And so you can continue indefinitely. They are common even against the background of manga characters, but how much they are lost against the background of complex characters from books is difficult to even describe.
Drawing
Great
LGBTQ
A transgender person appears in the last chapters (this is not a joke. This is also not a serious claim, but just an interesting fact, I have run out of meaningful thoughts)
That's all. I was thinking of writing something else, but doubting that anyone would read it at least.
and the light is at the end, since the author advised you to read manga, and I advise you not to waste time on such platitudes, then what do you read? Well, manga for "adults" has been consulted on this channel many times, I will not call it banal: monster, boys of the twentieth century, Billy Bat, good night punpun, kingdom, outstanding animals and so on and so on. As you have seen from the examples, I recently started reading the manga bleach. And it's just incredible. It's been a long time since I watched the anime and it left a controversial aftertaste. But the manga is just a masterpiece (although I haven't finished reading it yet). I recommend it to everyone, especially the color version.
TLDR, but i did skim around a bit.
All i can say is what you find interesting and want from stories sounds exceptionally boring. I like character stories and introspective drama, im too old to be a "zoomer" as you call it but if thats what they like so do I.
I think you oversimplify what a "warrior" back in the middle ages thought and felt. If all Vikings as you said were mindless murderers who felt nothing after killing a bunch of people there wouldn't be such beautiful stories in their own religion of Norse which is fucking FULL of people who regret their actions and those who make mistakes and are haunted by it.
Vikings weren't only warriors they were traders and adventurers as well, it sites to reason there were many personalities and ideologies outside of BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!
But you do you i suppose.
@@n543576 1) what I want from the story is boring. I want originality and realism, is it boring for someone? I would really like the characters to have an interesting story. but it just isn't there. don't think, I'm not bragging that I can guess the continuation of the story well, on the contrary, this usually doesn't happen. but that's literally what happened to Vinland. after the prologue, the main character will no longer change. the only question is how much "Jesus" he will become. here I wanted to explain another idea of mine. books have been developing for more than several thousand years. Aristotle also wrote a book about how to write dramas correctly. and books have long since reached their peak. I believe that the peak of the content is Shakespeare, and the peak of the form is James Joyce. manga has only been developing for a hundred years. and theoretically, the author has even more tools for expressing his ideas, writing a story, and so on. but all these tools have not been sharpened yet and mangaks hardly know how to use them. I have not yet met a single manga or comic book that could be safely put on a par with literary classics. you say you like this story. But how can I like it if I've already read crime and punishment? Where all the experiences are described better, the plot is more interesting, the characters are more voluminous. and moreover, the message there is not as unambiguous as in Vinland. if vinland say it's good to be good , then the dostoevsky leaves us the understatement "is Raskolnikov's theory true"? (I won't reveal the topic from the book since it's quite a long time and I'm not sure if anyone has read or is interested in it). I understand that if you only read manga, then Vinland may be of some value to you, but for someone who pays attention to other types of art, it's just mediocrity, and it's too long for a such story. perhaps you will say that it is unfair to compare Vinland with recognized masterpieces, but I can endlessly give you examples from modern literature of what is better. for example, game of thrones (yes, I know that's not the name of the book). Oh or do you know the book of Elric of melnibone? I thought and the story begins just when the main character is almost a complete copy of an adult torkin (yes, I love fantasy)
2) I didn't call those who like it zoomers, I mentioned them because this is a generation that invents a lot of mental problems for itself. for example, clinical depression is really a disease, but a huge number of zoomers when they are sad think that they have depression and start taking pills. and they don't have it, they're just sad or apathy or fatigue and so on.
3) about the warriors. a) there are different religions, I can assume that there were Christians who had a difficult relationship with murderers. But in the asatru religion there is literally not a single indication that killing is bad. on the contrary, those who fought all their lives and died with a weapon in their hand end up in Valhalla, where they drink during the day, fight to the death at night, then odin resurrects everyone and so on to Ragnarok. And such as Torkin end up in Hel, where they slowly disappear into the world of shadows (by the way, it looks like the afterlife of the Greeks, as described in Homer). well, I will remind you of my favorite Viking proverb in a free retelling: "The family will die, the cattle will die, only the glory of the deceased warior will live forever." b) I don't overdo warriors. For example, the Vikings loved poetry very much, and the Kshatriyas invented Buddhism in general, I'm not saying that these are stupid or insensitive people. it's just that they really didn't experience anything killing people. Such was the morality in those days. All the sagas I have read, all the historical literature, all the remnants from their religion speak about this. if you think that this is not the case, then you can give an example where a person would regret exactly that he killed another person and it's because this is also a person and it's not good to kill him, and not for any other reason. (which I think will be very difficult since the Vikings believed in fate, so they would put the blame (even if they experience it) on themselves, and not on fate.
4) well, yes, there were merchants and poets and artisans among the Vikings, and what? The poet was well treated, after all, their gift from Odin, the merchants were worse, but either way they were a)little b) torkin is not one of them c) their religion speaks about the attitude towards them.
5) if it sounds funny to you that the Viking religion is more skulls to the god of skulls, then you probably are not very immersed. No, of course this is an exaggeration, but in principle it is literally so. You've been fighting all your life -to Valhalla to Odin for a feast. And at the end of time, we will fight together with the gods themselves. You're afraid, you don't kill, you behave like Jesus - in hell, you lose your memory and personality until you disappear or the world restarts after Ragnarok. And of course, the goal was not killing for the sake of killing, but relatively honest battles and making riches.
If you have examples of the opposite, then throw it, I'll see, I'll answer.
@@denislav Yaaaa nah im not reading all that.
If what you watch is anything like how you write it sounds wordy and uninteresting, but again you do you.
Im gonna back outta this one before you write me another book....
@@n543576 Indeed, for people who believe that what I have written has a lot of letters, Vinland is a masterpiece for all time.
@@denislav It really is tho ;)