"Cause my wife is one." Wouldn't want to have to deal with anti-national socialist internationalism or Bolshevism because i'm engaging in anti-national socialist internationalism.
Peterson has said many times that he finds it fascinating to talk to people because, he says, he always learns something new from them. It could very well be that this intense look that you observed is genuine and he really is very interested in what people have to say. He also said that being interested in what people have to say has helped him in his therapy practice.
Yup. Added to which he always says that one should approach each conversation as though you have something to learn from the other person. He walks the walk.
He despises the idea of basic internet anonymity and has been actively pushing against it. He clearly cares nothing about talking to people to "learn something new from them" unless the ability exists to dox them upon disagreement
Cathy Newman said silly things because she wasn't interested in having a conversation in good faith, or even asking probing questions in a sincere way, but rather she wanted to score cheap 'gotcha' points. Unfortunately her IQ wasn't up to the job.
@@naughtypanda2538, you are not looking great here, mate: he did not say that she was unintelligent (I would be personally inclined to think so and to assume she owed a lot of her career to conformism and box-ticking): she said she has not the IQ to frame Peterson with cheap tricks, which is clearly what transpired there. So, in other words: she might very well be intelligent (again, far from my personal impression, but not what Ganymede wrote), but just not enough to compete with Peterson while trying the same weak tactic over and over for 30 mins. Also, if you think that any "educational background" certifies a solid level of intelligence, I have news for you in that regard too...
Thanks. This helps me to make sense of something that happened in my life. I was involved in some environmentalist groups, when a weird shift happened. The others slowly started to shoehorn 'intersectionality' in to things (ie, things which have nothing to with environmentalism at best, and even work against it). My initial response was, 'hmm. I respect these people, so maybe they're on to something. I must look in to this and find out more'. I'm here now, so you can imagine the rest of the story yourself!
@@Flux_40 Wait, so you think he went back to the radical left, or you think he got scared by the radical left (which is a rational reaction to be honest, no political group has a higher kill count).
@@jrd33 It's funny how everyone understands exactly who is White when assigning collective blame for historical events. But as soon as Whites mention having interests as a group, it's just so hard to tell who's White.
@@bri_____ Ah yes, the old “you can’t define European ethnicities!!” argument 😂 Guess BLM needs to go home, nobody can define black either, eh? Just ignore those people
every accusation thrown at the left in this video fits far better on the status seeking capitalist proponent. you have told on yourself. power has been in the hands of the feudal lords and the capitalist for ten thousand years, but when the left claim you are corrupt, you cry "YOU JUST WANT POWER" ! like I said, you have told on yourselves.
I think that stare comes from intense curiosity. It’s too easy to consider a collection of people as banal, but when you observe a passionate person and try to understand them and their beliefs….that is a special moment.
Peterson's academic pedigree without a doubt goes straight back to MKUltra and the CIA. Peterson did his post-doc under a man named Maurice Dongier. Dongier obtained his degree in psychiatry in 1954 at McGill University, training at the Allan Memorial Institute. The Allan Memorial Institute was founded and directed by Donald Ewen Cameron, who was contracted by the CIA to conduct MKUltra mind control experiments there between the years 1957 and 1964. After completing his post-doc, Peterson then went on to teach at Harvard for five years, taking up Timothy Leary's old position. The stare is from his intense curiosity you say , think again.
Peterson used to talk about Solzhenitsyn an awful lot, while totally ignoring what he said about the people behind the Russian revolution... Strange that, eh 🤔
7:15 Peterson's an accomplished Jungian, as such - he's interested in the character and motivations of people. In interviews you can often see him examining the person he's talking to, trying to assess whether that person places any validity in their own assertions or are they attempting to set a verbal trap. The nature of the person he's talking to greatly changes how he deals with them and whether or not he's going to follow a line of dialogue to explore an idea or notion being presented. Unfortunately, this is a sign of cynicism sinking in: because much earlier in his career - he didn't do that. Previously he, perhaps naively, acted under the premise that people were acting in good faith.
every accusation thrown at the left in this video fits far better on the status seeking capitalist proponent. you have told on yourself. power has been in the hands of the feudal lords and the capitalist for ten thousand years, but when the left claim you are corrupt, you cry "YOU JUST WANT POWER" ! like I said, you have told on yourselves.
That's a really good observation. We indeed have to be super cautious to accurately measure the intentions/nature of the person we're interacting with. It's the "as wise as serpents" maxim in action. I have always taken Jung and Jungians to be seekers who are looking to thread the realm of the 'unconscious' carefully. I believe me of them through careful and precise examinations unlock spiritual understanding which awakens dormant energy potentials(let's say). (The power of emotional or mental concentration which is also used in deep thought/research.) Regular left brained high IQ scientistists are largely cut off from their body/heart so this state of mind is often incomprehensible or intimidating to them. Even in non-intellectual cultures the aforementioned highly concentrated mind is detected and is feared too(they are classified as evil or wise men, depending on the person and circumstances)
I would probably ask Peterstein how exactly " give them hell", since he has been trying so hard to divert attention away. Imagine the stare I would get for that one.
@@springheeljak145 what is he supposed to add? He's already released a longer form video about how bad the situation in the area is and that he still supports Israel generally speaking. Before you even argue that the form was unacceptable the entire existence of Peterson on the platform was a massive mistake in the first place and I wish he'd straight up leave.
Peterson's target audience are young people on the fence about leftism. He doesn't have much to offer people who've long since formulated their own beliefs.
As a university professor Peterson is used to an audience of young people, although working in the humanities that audience is more likely to be women. As for his public talks his audience comprises those who choose to attend. There are no limitations as to either age or sex. He does not target people. He addresses those who choose to be there. “Beliefs” is a tricky word and one best avoided. It generally refers to ideas not based on facts, because facts do not require belief. And belief does not require facts. Peterson has much to offer those who have already formed their own beliefs: facts.
@@jeremyashford2145Facts do not require belief? This is so naive. Why do you think the deemed "fact-finders" of the world exist in the first place? Authority requires belief in the credibility of an authority. Trust is the _belief_ that a someone or something is reliable, credible, or safe. Facts are only accepted as factual by a group when the people's trust in the organization or entity is above a threshold. Likewise, the economy only works when people _believe_ the system isn't failing. This involves trusting the markets (the collective decisions of a group).
@@MrCarGuy Peterson is deeply involved with powerful globalist oligarchs, Marxsits, ( All documented ) while pretending to be against the very plans that those same people and their think tanks and foundations are working towards. Peterson has sort of tried to minimize his work done for the UN by stating that he rewrote the document they produced to "remove the ideological clap trap", but the document is nevertheless a Marxist globalist NWO artifact/plan in a nutshell.
I think he is genuinely interested in people. When I met him -- after waiting in a similar of line of nervous congregants -- I told him about the internship I was on at the time and he wanted to hear more about it and wished me well afterward. I also noticed the very penetrating stare.
The Jolly Heretic has a religious experience. That said, I do think Dutton could have some influence on Peterson over time. More encounters would be good. Definitely needs to be a long game though.
I know it is in vogue to take shots at Peterson in one way or another, but he has done a lot of good in a dark time. I refuse to see him as a bad actor. I appreciate the work he has done and I appreciate his continued efforts.
I agree. Massive fame hasn't done him well in the long run, I don't think it's his fault; actually he said himself when this all got started that the fame eventually messing him up was the biggest risk of all and he didn't know if he'd be able to keep himself true through such a journey. Prescient.
You should bear in mind that he's not interested in making the world a better place. He's interested in making as much money as humanly possible, while doing something remotely positive for the world while he's at it. If he genuinely wanted to make the world a better place, he would spread the truth about his employers. He would name his employers and criticize them for what they've done to us. Money is his first priority and that's why he's in the hell that he is in and will be for the rest of eternity.
Your story of the intense look reminded me of a profound handshake I had with a celebrity once. He held onto my hand for an uncomfortable long time and with a strong grip. It took me completely off guard as I'd never experienced that before. Definitely felt huge confidence in them.
@@corvoattano9303 I try to explain what Traditionl European values are to people and the light goes on . Hard work , Integrity , Truth etc etc are traditions and valued because they work for the European individual and our European Group. We must focus on out people future first and foremost .
@@Alfred5555 For the same reason pick up artists are - they want something from you and you know it. Also being formally trained as those both means that you have not built it organically like I mean in my comment.
@@anon2034Surely it would come organically eventually? How much actual sales training do you think the average handy man has when he knocks at your door asking if you want your windows cleaned?
The mesmeric look: The Jolly Heretic was hyp-NO-tized by JP. He learned this from his years as a professor in an attempt to engage students. He's the kind of guy who would not rest on his laurels in any endeavor. He'd have been trial-and-error testing how to get his students engaged, year after year. If you've seen his lectures, even online they engage you. His ability to discuss his own understanding of the world is unparalleled. All while not being condescending. He's self deprecating -- readily admits to not being finished with his thinking about a problem -- which mirrors all listeners because they wouldn't be listening to him unless they weren't also working out a problem. Another one: When he looks into the crowd, he doesn't look at some generalized area, he looks right in the eyes of individuals in the audience -- which can't help but make that person feel like the information is relevant to themselves on a personal level rather than an academic one. Study his lecture presentations and you can see many techniques he uses to engage his class -- rhetoric, body language, and how he creates a narrative which can draw you in. He's so powerful with these techniques, they work in recorded videos to get your attention. This is why he has become famous and for no other reason. Years ago he ran for public office, I think, but didn't make it. I don't think that would be the case today. I think that loss jostled him to constantly improve his ability to engage people. Some of that improvement would've been conscious, but a lot would've been unconscious. One must feel thankful that he's mostly a centrist (and in Canada) and he leans more toward the libertarian side. If he was a totalitarian and citizen of a world power, he'd have ended the woke with extreme prejudice. Hmm. Now that I think about it, I think that fate would be better than what the woke (neo-Maoists) have in store for us all in years to come.
Very interesting comment. I almost think he was at his peak in the lectures though, the culture war and its continuous character assassinations cut him deep and he's seemed wounded ever since, I think because he's genuinely sensitive and empathic, which is also why he can't dogmatically come down on either side with much conviction. Also feels like his Daily Wire position is a container more than a platform, his gifts are better served toward helping good individuals in these hopelessly confused times than engaging with the culture war directly.
Peterson's academic pedigree without a doubt goes straight back to MKUltra and the CIA. Peterson did his post-doc under a man named Maurice Dongier. Dongier obtained his degree in psychiatry in 1954 at McGill University, training at the Allan Memorial Institute. The Allan Memorial Institute was founded and directed by Donald Ewen Cameron, who was contracted by the CIA to conduct MKUltra mind control experiments there between the years 1957 and 1964 and who knows how long after. After completing his post-doc, Peterson then went on to teach at Harvard for five years, taking up Timothy Leary's old position .
@@GrandmasterFerg Peterson also worked for the United Nations for three years and has ties to some serious globalist think tanks, specifically George Soros' INET (Institute for New Economic Thinking), and CIGI (Centre for International Governance Innovation). He was a UN adviser to Jim Balsillie (ex-CEO of RIM/Blackberry), who was working on a UN panel called 'The United Nations Secretary-General's High-Level Panel on Global Sustainability'. This UN panel produced a document that is essentially a Marxist NWO blueprint, and this document was later built upon and referenced by a UN panel that John Podesta sat on called 'The United Nations High-Level Panel of Eminent Persons On the Post-2015 Development Agenda'. Both of these panels laid the groundwork for the 'United Nations 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development'. Jim Balsillie is the founder of CIGI and co-founded INET with George Soros. CIGI is in fact partnered with and receives funding from INET, as well as from the Clinton Foundation. CIGI is a major Marxist globalist NWO think tank, involved with the G20, and it even appears to have some sort of ties to the CIA. Balsillie had two additional UN advisers (Paul Jenkins, Simon Zadek) and a UN "sherpa" (David Runnalls) in addition to Peterson while working at the UN, and all three of them were from CIGI. Still have doubts ? i have much more on Peterson . It gets very weird . Do not trust Peterson
If Rasputin's stare came across in photos, surely it would be apparent in videos of Peterson. But perhaps with him it is toned down by comparison. Very interesting.
There's a movie about CS Lewis meeting Freud in the run up to WW2 this christmas. Be interesting to see a full youtube conversation in such worrisome times. When the Jolly Heretic spoke with Jordan Peterson?
What is fascinating to me is how JP knows so much about jungs psychology and yet seems to suffer from unconscious denial very badly. Is jordan peterson now trying to save the world with his idea that he knows more about morality then others? Why does jordan peterson get angry and avoid his own question he asked himself if he believes god exist? Its a long comment as this is not an simple thing to explain. If you have 12 minutes the first basic part I will go over is about fast/slow thinking. If you want there is a 12 minute video by veritasium called "the science of thinking" that will explain it very well. I think this is knowledge that can really benefit people if they do not know about it. The next part though I dont know any videos for and I dont know if anyone really had the idea I have before. The knowledge of the fast/slow mind is what is relevant from that video and I think a good starting point for the discussion. The video also gives examples of people doing it live, but it most likely will work on you as well so that is how I will show you. I am going to ask you a question, and I am going to predict the answer you will have pop in your mind at first, and predict that will be a wrong answer. This works on most people and you can try if for yourself on others to see too, its an interesting conversation starter. A bat and a ball together cost 1.10, the bat costs 1.00 more then the ball, how much did the ball cost? You might have an answer flash in your head right away with fast inaccurate fast mind but if you check that answer with your slow but more accurate conscious awareness, you can see that answer is wrong but it takes effort to do. The answer of ten cents is not the right answer but most people have that pop in their head because of the fast thinking mind that we rely on most of the time. The fast unconscious mind is taking everything in and trying to make sense of it really fast. Its 11 million bits a second. But sometimes it makes mistakes. The slow conscious mind is 40-50 bits and lazy but it can check things and bringing the unconscious mistake to conscious awareness it can correct it. The next thing to understand is about carl jung and the 4 ways the unconscious complex he called shadow deals with reality. The shadow is an unconscious complex that is defined as the repressed and suppressed aspects of the conscious self. there are constructive and destructive types of shadow. Carl jung emphasized the importance of being aware of shadow material and incorporating it into conscious awareness lest one project these attributes onto others. The human being deals with the reality of shadow in 4 ways. Denial, projection, integration and/or transmutation. Now I believe what is happening when a question that exposes a conflict in a belief, idea, something that someone said, or even about someone they idolize and the question gets avoided, that is the fast unconscious mind going into denial and the response is often a projection. This also can trigger and emotional response activating the amygdala more and the pre frontal cortex less where rational conscious thought is said to happen and the amygdala starts to get the body to flood itself with chemicals/hormones. Its like the fast mind knows conscious awareness will say its wrong. so it blocks it off to defend itself from admitting its wrong. in cases of denial and because it blocked off the rational mind, the responses are often irrational. Like personal attacks do not address the issue or answer the question. I think we can agree people have a very hard time now days admitting when they are wrong, I am not exempt from this myself I do realize. And we can see how badly questions avoidance effects us if you watch political meetings and watch them avoid questions all day long. Ok, so the first thing to go over is denial as that is the main one I expose with questions. A disowning or refusal to acknowledge something I think is a good definition for it here. There is a really good 2 minute video I use as an example of this. A streamer named vegan gains claiming lobsters have brains after some one said he can eat lobsters because they do not have brains. He googles it and starts to read what it says. When he gets to the part where is says neither insects nor lobsters have brains, he skips it and says they literally are insects then skips over that line and continues to read the rest. Just like in the fast thinking video, his fast mind already read that line and refused to acknowledge it in unconscious denial, and just skipped it. The person then tells him he skipped it and he reads it again and sees the line this time. Still being defensive of his claim and refusing to accept he was wrong, he tried to discredit the source and its the lobster institute of maine. If you would like to see the video for yourself its 2 minutes by destiny clips and the video is called " Destiny Reacts To Vegan Gains Ignoring Search Result That Contradicts Him". Justin turdo avoiding the question of how much his family was paid by the we charity 6 times in a row I think is denial as well. I think jordan peterson not being able to answer his own question of does he believe god exists and asking what do and you mean then saying no one knows what any of those words mean while being seemingly angry is think is another really good example of denial... and projection. And while JP find those words difficult, other people understand them easy. Even he does pretty much any other time they are used. So projection is next up. Psychological projection is a defense mechanism people subconsciously employ in order to cope with difficult feelings or emotions. Psychological projection involves projecting undesirable feelings or emotions onto someone else, rather than admitting to or dealing with the unwanted feelings. Many times a mind in denial will use projections for responses. Someone getting mad and telling the other person to not interrupt when they have been doing that a lot themselves would be an example. I have done this myself. The people who tell me I dont understand my own questions and my point is wrong when they do not even know what the point is are all examples as well. I ask them to steel man my position to show then understand my point and they just avoid that question as well clearly showing they do not understand my point. Now we have integration and/or transmutation. Integration is when you bring an unconscious behavior into conscious awareness and accept it. I know that I interrupt people talking sometimes even though I think that is wrong to do. I have a conscious awareness of it, but I have not been able to completely change the behavior.... yet. That is where transmutation comes in. Transmutation is to completely change that unconscious behavior. From being impatient to being patient, of from distrust to trust, hate into understanding and love even. So was this understandable or confusing? if you understand it, do you think its possibly true? Do you have any questions? If you have any tips I am would gladly listen.
I met JBP but I confess I didn't want to get into a debate with him, partly because there was a very large crowd and it felt wrong to occupy too much of his time. I was surprised by how tall he is. When you see him on screen, you don't get that sense. I'm 183cm so he's at least 190cm.
Jordung Pebbleson very wise shaman. Tell Grug, "Grug only. Not tribe. Grug want tribe? Clean cave, bad Grug!" Then Grug see Jordung with longnose at Holobunga feast. Grug think, "Why longnose have special feast only for longnose, if tribe so bad? Why Jordung go to feast?"
I read it too because Robert W. Whitaker wrote an article on it. I read ALL of Whitaker's articles and it's still available even though he died in June 2017. He was my idol and I've read EVERY single book of Any author he ever mentioned or referenced in an article. I wanted to Think like Whitaker. I'd say I've succeeded in that. So I've read ALL of Hoffer's works, ALL of William E. Woodward's works, ALL of Inglis Fletcher's works, ALL of Larry Niven's works, "War Through the Ages," "Might of the West," "Decline of the West" (probably the most difficult reading of all books I've attempted), ALL of Robert Ardrey's works, "Lone Star," and a few others.
Fear, anxiety and strong emotions can rule your life. Most people have 'issues' but some are overwhelmed and project these energies in extreme ways. JP understands these people very well because he is so similar. He has a lot of emotion and anxiety in my opinion, except he channel and tempers that using his logical brain. This results in his intense presence... He's wound up like a coiled spring. If he wasn't as smart as he is, it's likely he'd be lying on the road with the protesters.
Your comment about his presence and hyper focus reminds me of what someone once said about the actor Tom Cruise. When you had his attention, he paid attention to you to such a degree that it made you feel like the center of the whole universe, but then the next moment he'd be moving on with his life. I believe he'd remember you if you met him some time later, but you'd be like the wallpaper on the room when he's not talking with you.
Hm. Fascinating analogy. These types then, when engaging in conversation listen to such an extent they’re like a FLY on the Wall and suddenly when the conversation ends you become the wallpaper the fly sits upon.
When I took both of my sons to see him in Toronto a few years back he had that total focus on people when he was answering questions. He did go out of his way a few times to avert my gaze after i asked him what he knew of Freemasonry given some of the biblical quotes hes focused on are also used in different masonic liturgy.
@osoarrogant6331 "in the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God" there's a couple others I don't remember off the top of my head as it was 4 years ago.
@@CHGLongStone you’re a paranoid conspiracy theorist if you think that talking about the logos has something to do with masonry just because they also talk about it.
@@vitordelima That doesn't really answer my question or make sense. Alchemy was interesting, I think much of it's conflation with chemistry is false, it's more like psychology, but psychology is like a mere shadow of it, essentially just the cheap most rudimentary tricks of things worked out via alchemy. I think Jung started looking into alchemy.
There are stares and stares. Some comments appear to think that you are talking about the evil eye, a totally different stare from the attentiveness stare.
Have you seen that one scene on one of his recent trailers, where his eyes look (in a positive sense) practically reptilian? I don't know about the whole gravity of his stare itself, but his eye colour sunlight refraction is quite something, haha.
@@Alfred5555 He’s never looked remotely reptilian that I’ve seen, but I’ll keep an eye out. Very bright, pretty eyes though especially with the dark shiny hair.
The "intense stare" reminded me of what people said about another very popular and charismatic man; Hitler, who, if you read accounts of what he was like in conversation, also used such a stare to make people feel somehow unnerved or special. It was as if he had some kind of aura- an effect that I found extremely interesting. (I am not saying Peterson is Hitler - merely that perhaps it is a trait common to very charismatic individuals.)
Reading this, I'm trying to remember if I've ever met anyone like that - and how I responded. I'm inclined to think that I found myself uncomfortable with the intrusive nature of such a stare - and did my best to politely extricate myself from the conversation. Eye colour plays a big part, I think. I find pale eyes a lot more unnerving to stare into than darker one.
This was a fantastic breakdown of the psychology behind left wing authoritarian behaviour. JP talks a lot about those fuelled by resentment. It all makes complete sense when I consider the people I've known who were just angry, spiteful, deceitful narcissists who signalled their virtue like nobody's business but would never actually lift a finger to fix the problem they were screaming about. It was clear they were weaponising the problem to axe grind a personal grievance, and now I understand why. Thanks The Jolly Heretic.
Peterson was selling expensive busts of *himself* a few years ago. There is no clearer case of narcissm. Maybe he has other personality traits he constantly criticizes others for too.
@MrCarGuy Or it is perhaps indicative of a sense of humour, a sense of irony. I have some busts. I have an angel from my grandmother’s grave (which I rescued from a skip) that I enjoyed moving around the house on the sly after seeing the Dr Who episode blink. I have a Donald Trump bottle opener, given to me by a friend for whom it was an unwanted gift. And I have a bobble head of Dexter the serial killer.
I feel i have benifited from listening and reading Jordan Petersons books more than my personal reading of philosphy including budhist psycology over a 40 year period the way he compares history human pyscology and great litreture as exampled for his points really resonate with me Having sai that i also am fortunate to be able to enjoy and benifit from most of your points of view ? Yes there are dofferances betteween JP and yourself as yourself and Thomas Sowell whos you spoke about recently Personaly i look for the similarities this gets me pointed towards subnects to pay future attention to ? As regards staring ive noticed that people who have active and agile critical thinking abilities ie musicians often have a stare ore look whist engaging ? Ive always put this down to being engaged 100% ? Ive not met JP but would love to perhaps one day if the time is right Thank you for your observations ive found your talks very interesting Keep it up squire
He didn't make anyone feel like anything, he's a famous person talking to you. Because you hold him in high regard, you've created this stare and feeling yourself.
@@billynitrus If someone purposely performs a behaviour, that behaviour would be called performative yes. Hence my question, because the commenter implied it might have been a narcissistic behaviour. Strange how you claimed to be desensitized but I seem to of struck a nerve, ahaha. Chip on my shoulder about what, magic hypno eyes?
Related, but not directly, there is also a high co-morbidity between Gender Dyphoria and Autism Spectrum Disorder. A common feature of many ASD people's coping/learning stategies is intense roleplay. In order to understand topics they are interested in but confused by, they will get way WAY more bodily and mentally involved in the topic than a neurotypical person might. It looks a lot like auto-didactic method acting. One might speculate that a not-insignificant portion of Gender Dysphoria or just transgender presentation in people on the autistic spectrum is this sort of 'auto-didactic method acting'.
I watched a clip from an interview between JP and a male Kathy Newman type agitator, where, JP locked onto the man with what was described as predatory intensity, before verbally taking the man apart. Scary stuff!
Everybody better start working on their hypnotic stare then! I’m sure it comes more easily to an intelligent person with lots of life experience being face to face with people. Especially if you know a lot about psychology. Any people facing job - sales, politics etc should help too!
Just be and listen, without talking to yourself in your own head and without trying to look a certain way. The stare is nothing you do. It's what you don't do.
It isn't hypnotic. It's all in the desire of the person being listened to to have engagement. To be heard, acknowledged, and either scolded or affirmed. The better you can sell that act, the more successful a psychiatrist, counselor, priest, or politician you will be. People will make you wealthy and powerful if you can convince them you're really listening. It makes them assume that you care.
He asked, "Have you read 200 Years Together"?
Jordan said, "I can't go there."
"Cause my wife is one."
Wouldn't want to have to deal with anti-national socialist internationalism or Bolshevism because i'm engaging in anti-national socialist internationalism.
No, he said, "I can't do it."
@DuncanL7979 after a long uncomfortable pause
@@DuncanL7979 "I can't do it, bucko."
EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!! And you only have 27 likes!!!!!!!! You should have 20K LIKES on that comment Fren!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Peterson is not a guru. He is a rabbi.
Wrong, he's a "Coof" vaccine shill.
A non-Jewish Zionist. Even worse in many ways.
And a professional gaslighter.
And a moral prostitute
Juden peterstein
G.K. Chesterton said that a great man is someone who makes those around him feel great.
In that case my cat is the greatest man alive today.
Peterson has said many times that he finds it fascinating to talk to people because, he says, he always learns something new from them. It could very well be that this intense look that you observed is genuine and he really is very interested in what people have to say. He also said that being interested in what people have to say has helped him in his therapy practice.
Yup. Added to which he always says that one should approach each conversation as though you have something to learn from the other person. He walks the walk.
Therapeutic State likes therapeutic types. So long as they stay on script.
I wonder if Canada will “re educate” that stare out of him when he goes for his re education training.
He despises the idea of basic internet anonymity and has been actively pushing against it.
He clearly cares nothing about talking to people to "learn something new from them" unless the ability exists to dox them upon disagreement
61 likes from BOTS and CNUTS. How brave of you to expose yourself.
Now we know who you are DOLT!!!!!!
And vice, as Napolean said, “Men are more easily governed through their vices than through their virtues.”
*Napoleon
That is true to all human race.
Cathy Newman said silly things because she wasn't interested in having a conversation in good faith, or even asking probing questions in a sincere way, but rather she wanted to score cheap 'gotcha' points. Unfortunately her IQ wasn't up to the job.
Yes that's the general consensus on the interview, in these spaces. He's simply giving another possible contributing reason for her behaviour
Just like you want to land stupid and cheap insults - she's obviously an intellgent person based on her educational background.
I’m noticing a pattern with certain ‘types’ of people … good faith and sincere are not in their nature
The phrase “good faith” is this year’s philosophical buzz word. Just like “straw man” was a few years ago.
@@naughtypanda2538, you are not looking great here, mate: he did not say that she was unintelligent (I would be personally inclined to think so and to assume she owed a lot of her career to conformism and box-ticking): she said she has not the IQ to frame Peterson with cheap tricks, which is clearly what transpired there.
So, in other words: she might very well be intelligent (again, far from my personal impression, but not what Ganymede wrote), but just not enough to compete with Peterson while trying the same weak tactic over and over for 30 mins.
Also, if you think that any "educational background" certifies a solid level of intelligence, I have news for you in that regard too...
My man talked to Jordan Peterson for 5 minutes and had a religious experience.
Hallelujah..😑
Great men have that effect on people.
Christ is still worshipped 2000 years after his death.
Imagine how potent that dude must have been.
😂
@@Knightonagreyhorse
Thanks. This helps me to make sense of something that happened in my life. I was involved in some environmentalist groups, when a weird shift happened. The others slowly started to shoehorn 'intersectionality' in to things (ie, things which have nothing to with environmentalism at best, and even work against it). My initial response was, 'hmm. I respect these people, so maybe they're on to something. I must look in to this and find out more'. I'm here now, so you can imagine the rest of the story yourself!
yes we can imagine the rest of the story.
you got scared you were out of your depth, so you swam back to daddy's warm hairy chest.
@@Flux_40 Wait, so you think he went back to the radical left, or you think he got scared by the radical left (which is a rational reaction to be honest, no political group has a higher kill count).
@@highestsettings capitalists have killed billions, communists only kill criminals.
Yes, you found a bottle of red pills.
I joke about the intersection of Islamophobia vs treating women and gays nicely.
I would ask Jordan,
Do you agree that native Europeans deserve their homeland?
How would you define "native European"? It depends how far back you want to look.
With the same criteria I would use to define native Americans, Chinese natives. And Japanese natives.
@@jrd33 It's funny how everyone understands exactly who is White when assigning collective blame for historical events. But as soon as Whites mention having interests as a group, it's just so hard to tell who's White.
@@bri_____ Ah yes, the old “you can’t define European ethnicities!!” argument 😂 Guess BLM needs to go home, nobody can define black either, eh? Just ignore those people
You're doing a good job, sure appreciate all your hard work and bluntness.
I wipe my bum like you do. 52 likes. Amazing.
every accusation thrown at the left in this video fits far better on the status seeking capitalist proponent.
you have told on yourself.
power has been in the hands of the feudal lords and the capitalist for ten thousand years, but when the left claim you are corrupt, you cry "YOU JUST WANT POWER" !
like I said, you have told on yourselves.
You should have told him you were an 'anonymous troll demon'. His eyes would have really flashed then.
I would love to see a conversation with Professor Dutton and Jordan Peterson.
I think that stare comes from intense curiosity.
It’s too easy to consider a collection of people as banal, but when you observe a passionate person and try to understand them and their beliefs….that is a special moment.
Peterson's academic pedigree without a doubt goes straight back to MKUltra and the CIA. Peterson did his post-doc under a man named Maurice Dongier. Dongier obtained his degree in psychiatry in 1954 at McGill University, training at the Allan Memorial Institute. The Allan Memorial Institute was founded and directed by Donald Ewen Cameron, who was contracted by the CIA to conduct MKUltra mind control experiments there between the years 1957 and 1964. After completing his post-doc, Peterson then went on to teach at Harvard for five years, taking up Timothy Leary's old position. The stare is from his intense curiosity you say , think again.
The negative feelings will always come back to them in the end.
After they realize they've been destroying everything they touch.
The negative feelings are always present until they realize what you said, at which point those who can let it go.
Yeah and good luck holding them accountable. They are children
What has Jordan destroyed besides his own credibility? Im not arguing, but asking genuinely.
@@johnnythegreat6568 they keep getting boosted, so hopefully it helps.
@@NogGonnaMakeIt he’s referring to leftists not Jordan peterstein
Peterson used to talk about Solzhenitsyn an awful lot, while totally ignoring what he said about the people behind the Russian revolution...
Strange that, eh 🤔
Peterson is owned by the men with funny last names.
… and funny tiny hats?
Scottish guys?
@@jimdavis8391 No, the Buddhists ... always the Buddhists ...
Haha oh vey! 😅
7:15 Peterson's an accomplished Jungian, as such - he's interested in the character and motivations of people. In interviews you can often see him examining the person he's talking to, trying to assess whether that person places any validity in their own assertions or are they attempting to set a verbal trap. The nature of the person he's talking to greatly changes how he deals with them and whether or not he's going to follow a line of dialogue to explore an idea or notion being presented. Unfortunately, this is a sign of cynicism sinking in: because much earlier in his career - he didn't do that. Previously he, perhaps naively, acted under the premise that people were acting in good faith.
every accusation thrown at the left in this video fits far better on the status seeking capitalist proponent.
you have told on yourself.
power has been in the hands of the feudal lords and the capitalist for ten thousand years, but when the left claim you are corrupt, you cry "YOU JUST WANT POWER" !
like I said, you have told on yourselves.
That's a really good observation. We indeed have to be super cautious to accurately measure the intentions/nature of the person we're interacting with. It's the "as wise as serpents" maxim in action. I have always taken Jung and Jungians to be seekers who are looking to thread the realm of the 'unconscious' carefully. I believe me of them through careful and precise examinations unlock spiritual understanding which awakens dormant energy potentials(let's say). (The power of emotional or mental concentration which is also used in deep thought/research.) Regular left brained high IQ scientistists are largely cut off from their body/heart so this state of mind is often incomprehensible or intimidating to them. Even in non-intellectual cultures the aforementioned highly concentrated mind is detected and is feared too(they are classified as evil or wise men, depending on the person and circumstances)
Also some people naturally are endowed this intensity by birth because of star signs
@@marakashi2559 thanks for proving how dumb peterson fans are.
@@marakashi2559 star signs xd
Making people feel like they are the most important person in the room is a skill of very successful politicians.
Yes, well many people don't really listen to other people.
Whatever you want to say about the man he's an excellent listener and seems very honest.
Jordan Petersen is a passionate human being.
I would probably ask Peterstein how exactly " give them hell", since he has been trying so hard to divert attention away.
Imagine the stare I would get for that one.
he would call you a foul troll demon and start crying
@@springheeljak145 what is he supposed to add? He's already released a longer form video about how bad the situation in the area is and that he still supports Israel generally speaking.
Before you even argue that the form was unacceptable the entire existence of Peterson on the platform was a massive mistake in the first place and I wish he'd straight up leave.
@@HereTakeAFlowerTry again but be coherent this time.
The problem with Peterstein is that he's an antiwhite sellout.
What exactly is wrong with that statement
How terribly British, to see a queue and feel compelled to join it!
Peterson's target audience are young people on the fence about leftism. He doesn't have much to offer people who've long since formulated their own beliefs.
As a university professor Peterson is used to an audience of young people, although working in the humanities that audience is more likely to be women.
As for his public talks his audience comprises those who choose to attend. There are no limitations as to either age or sex.
He does not target people. He addresses those who choose to be there.
“Beliefs” is a tricky word and one best avoided. It generally refers to ideas not based on facts, because facts do not require belief. And belief does not require facts.
Peterson has much to offer those who have already formed their own beliefs: facts.
@@jeremyashford2145 what a well written comment
@@jeremyashford2145 I am pretty sure that leftist pedantry is a topic Peterson has discussed quite often...
@@jeremyashford2145Facts do not require belief? This is so naive.
Why do you think the deemed "fact-finders" of the world exist in the first place? Authority requires belief in the credibility of an authority. Trust is the _belief_ that a someone or something is reliable, credible, or safe. Facts are only accepted as factual by a group when the people's trust in the organization or entity is above a threshold.
Likewise, the economy only works when people _believe_ the system isn't failing. This involves trusting the markets (the collective decisions of a group).
@@MrCarGuy Peterson is deeply involved with powerful globalist oligarchs, Marxsits, ( All documented ) while pretending to be against the very plans that those same people and their think tanks and foundations are working towards. Peterson has sort of tried to minimize his work done for the UN by stating that he rewrote the document they produced to "remove the ideological clap trap", but the document is nevertheless a Marxist globalist NWO artifact/plan in a nutshell.
I think he is genuinely interested in people. When I met him -- after waiting in a similar of line of nervous congregants -- I told him about the internship I was on at the time and he wanted to hear more about it and wished me well afterward. I also noticed the very penetrating stare.
Beth shallow evaluation of Peterson.. politicians manipulate the same way as JP
Beth shallow evaluation of Peterson.. politicians manipulate the same way as JP
I was waiting for the moment when you would say "trying to save the world to cope with one's lack of self-esteem" applied to Peterson himself.
So elon musk is just a big "cope" in his opinion?, who exactly wouldn't wanna change the world for the better?
@@shelbyspeaks3287
It’s easy to *WANT* it but very, very difficult to *DO IT!*
Exactly this!
How smart of you to actually say NOTHING!!!!!!
That is exactly what I was expecting as well.
I have been listening to both of you for years. I don't feel torn at all.
Goy bless Peterstein
@@tayzk5929ffs 😂😂
ruclips.net/video/WXYuqrO8LLo/видео.html
Dutton > Peterson
@maxgill6738the godfather of evolutionary psychology
@maxgill6738 Ed Dutton, the man in the video above.
@maxgill6738😂 Cheeky
Jordan Peterson's focus is near total, I'm sure you *feel* being the point of attention of that much intellect and compassion.
The Jolly Heretic has a religious experience. That said, I do think Dutton could have some influence on Peterson over time. More encounters would be good. Definitely needs to be a long game though.
He's not worth saving. Here's why: ruclips.net/video/WXYuqrO8LLo/видео.html
Yeah he could accidentally bump into him at every event from now on
I know it is in vogue to take shots at Peterson in one way or another, but he has done a lot of good in a dark time. I refuse to see him as a bad actor. I appreciate the work he has done and I appreciate his continued efforts.
I agree. Massive fame hasn't done him well in the long run, I don't think it's his fault; actually he said himself when this all got started that the fame eventually messing him up was the biggest risk of all and he didn't know if he'd be able to keep himself true through such a journey. Prescient.
I'd agree, but it's hard to respect someone who calls for the total deanonymisation of social media
You should bear in mind that he's not interested in making the world a better place. He's interested in making as much money as humanly possible, while doing something remotely positive for the world while he's at it. If he genuinely wanted to make the world a better place, he would spread the truth about his employers. He would name his employers and criticize them for what they've done to us. Money is his first priority and that's why he's in the hell that he is in and will be for the rest of eternity.
I totally agree with your statement.
Well said, I have had the same experience. He helped bring me out of a dark place and has helped me become a better person in all aspects of life.
Loving the dramatic lighting Dr. Dutton!
Aleister Crowley had a similar stance but stated fear/insecurity was the main factor.
I'm jealous. I'd love to meet Jordan Peterson and shake his hand. I have more respect for him than for almost anyone alive.
Your story of the intense look reminded me of a profound handshake I had with a celebrity once. He held onto my hand for an uncomfortable long time and with a strong grip. It took me completely off guard as I'd never experienced that before. Definitely felt huge confidence in them.
I think im done with the normie world. Was kinda fun. Good luck to you all in the struggle.
What beliefs would you consider the opposite of normie?
@@corvoattano9303 European Traditional Values are the opposite of the Normie .
Leaving the normie world is joining the struggle.
@@parabot2 that's also what my assumption is. But I'd like to know what OP's answer is.
@@corvoattano9303 I try to explain what Traditionl European values are to people and the light goes on . Hard work , Integrity , Truth etc etc are traditions and valued because they work for the European individual and our European Group. We must focus on out people future first and foremost .
The hypnotic charismatic stare I think is developed by working with many people face to face.
Then why are most salesmen repulsive?
@@Alfred5555 For the same reason pick up artists are - they want something from you and you know it. Also being formally trained as those both means that you have not built it organically like I mean in my comment.
@@anon2034Surely it would come organically eventually? How much actual sales training do you think the average handy man has when he knocks at your door asking if you want your windows cleaned?
The mesmeric look: The Jolly Heretic was hyp-NO-tized by JP.
He learned this from his years as a professor in an attempt to engage students. He's the kind of guy who would not rest on his laurels in any endeavor. He'd have been trial-and-error testing how to get his students engaged, year after year.
If you've seen his lectures, even online they engage you. His ability to discuss his own understanding of the world is unparalleled. All while not being condescending. He's self deprecating -- readily admits to not being finished with his thinking about a problem -- which mirrors all listeners because they wouldn't be listening to him unless they weren't also working out a problem.
Another one: When he looks into the crowd, he doesn't look at some generalized area, he looks right in the eyes of individuals in the audience -- which can't help but make that person feel like the information is relevant to themselves on a personal level rather than an academic one.
Study his lecture presentations and you can see many techniques he uses to engage his class -- rhetoric, body language, and how he creates a narrative which can draw you in. He's so powerful with these techniques, they work in recorded videos to get your attention. This is why he has become famous and for no other reason.
Years ago he ran for public office, I think, but didn't make it. I don't think that would be the case today. I think that loss jostled him to constantly improve his ability to engage people. Some of that improvement would've been conscious, but a lot would've been unconscious.
One must feel thankful that he's mostly a centrist (and in Canada) and he leans more toward the libertarian side. If he was a totalitarian and citizen of a world power, he'd have ended the woke with extreme prejudice. Hmm. Now that I think about it, I think that fate would be better than what the woke (neo-Maoists) have in store for us all in years to come.
Curious as to your background given the depth of this comment.
Very interesting comment. I almost think he was at his peak in the lectures though, the culture war and its continuous character assassinations cut him deep and he's seemed wounded ever since, I think because he's genuinely sensitive and empathic, which is also why he can't dogmatically come down on either side with much conviction. Also feels like his Daily Wire position is a container more than a platform, his gifts are better served toward helping good individuals in these hopelessly confused times than engaging with the culture war directly.
This glowing AI-written psyop of a comment isn’t worth anyone’s time.
There are no Maoists in power, only Zionist globalists. And Peterson loves them.
To be clear, I mean millenarian Noahidists, not globalists in general.
Was hoping it would have turned into a fist fight. This is cool too.
Yes. We need this.
_"You bloody evil COWARD! Sully my bedevilled eggs!"_
@@MrCarGuywhich one of them is saying this?
Could this explanation be used when discussing the JQ
I believe that stare is the opposite of insecure. It is openess and curiosity with no fear for the person to say something damaging you.
I'm glad you were able to meet JP.
Ed is the live stream of you talking about the event uploaded anywhere? Couldn't catch all of it.
Just listening to him give a lecture on You Tube gave me the sense that there's a touch of John the Baptist about Peterson.
Jordan said that the Palestinians were "renting an apartment" and because the European Jews put up some curtains, the apartment was no longer theirs
I love you Dutton!
You make me laugh and think
God Bless you!
Peterson's academic pedigree without a doubt goes straight back to MKUltra and the CIA. Peterson did his post-doc under a man named Maurice Dongier. Dongier obtained his degree in psychiatry in 1954 at McGill University, training at the Allan Memorial Institute. The Allan Memorial Institute was founded and directed by Donald Ewen Cameron, who was contracted by the CIA to conduct MKUltra mind control experiments there between the years 1957 and 1964 and who knows how long after. After completing his post-doc, Peterson then went on to teach at Harvard for five years, taking up Timothy Leary's old position .
Underrated comment
Very interesting!
But, without a doubt?
@@GrandmasterFerg Peterson also worked for the United Nations for three years and has ties to some serious globalist think tanks, specifically George Soros' INET (Institute for New Economic Thinking), and CIGI (Centre for International Governance Innovation). He was a UN adviser to Jim Balsillie (ex-CEO of RIM/Blackberry), who was working on a UN panel called 'The United Nations Secretary-General's High-Level Panel on Global Sustainability'. This UN panel produced a document that is essentially a Marxist NWO blueprint, and this document was later built upon and referenced by a UN panel that John Podesta sat on called 'The United Nations High-Level Panel of Eminent Persons On the Post-2015 Development Agenda'. Both of these panels laid the groundwork for the 'United Nations 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development'.
Jim Balsillie is the founder of CIGI and co-founded INET with George Soros. CIGI is in fact partnered with and receives funding from INET, as well as from the Clinton Foundation. CIGI is a major Marxist globalist NWO think tank, involved with the G20, and it even appears to have some sort of ties to the CIA. Balsillie had two additional UN advisers (Paul Jenkins, Simon Zadek) and a UN "sherpa" (David Runnalls) in addition to Peterson while working at the UN, and all three of them were from CIGI.
Still have doubts ? i have much more on Peterson . It gets very weird . Do not trust Peterson
How can I look this all up? What source is the best for this information?
Yes please provide sources, I would like to read more about this @@lamortexotique
I've been to one of his talks and went to the meet and great. I had the exact same experience.
Oh a blessing from the chosen one, who represents the interests of the chosen tribe. Oy vey
I think that part of it can also be related to codependency (when instead of healing your own wounds, you focus on healing others).
I believe that Karl Menninger wrote this observation, or one very similar to it, in his book The Human Mind (1930).
Zizek is another one who's been remarkably abscent during the massacre.
I think what you perceived was extreme empathy and not psychological manipulation
Same. Also, I don't buy the good professor's speculation about Cathy Newman being unnerved by JBP's stare.
If Rasputin's stare came across in photos, surely it would be apparent in videos of Peterson. But perhaps with him it is toned down by comparison. Very interesting.
Or Ed was just getting weak in the knees for the famous Doctor.
@@Alfred5555bingo
There's a movie about CS Lewis meeting Freud in the run up to WW2 this christmas. Be interesting to see a full youtube conversation in such worrisome times. When the Jolly Heretic spoke with Jordan Peterson?
Did you make him cry?
Ed's eyes look like he took Petersons prescription by accident 😂
No
Peterson wasn't prescribed uppers though...
Interesting encounter indeed.
What's fascinating is that this entirely rational psychological concept has never occurred to him.
What is fascinating to me is how JP knows so much about jungs psychology and yet seems to suffer from unconscious denial very badly. Is jordan peterson now trying to save the world with his idea that he knows more about morality then others? Why does jordan peterson get angry and avoid his own question he asked himself if he believes god exist?
Its a long comment as this is not an simple thing to explain.
If you have 12 minutes the first basic part I will go over is about fast/slow thinking. If you want there is a 12 minute video by veritasium called "the science of thinking" that will explain it very well. I think this is knowledge that can really benefit people if they do not know about it. The next part though I dont know any videos for and I dont know if anyone really had the idea I have before.
The knowledge of the fast/slow mind is what is relevant from that video and I think a good starting point for the discussion. The video also gives examples of people doing it live, but it most likely will work on you as well so that is how I will show you. I am going to ask you a question, and I am going to predict the answer you will have pop in your mind at first, and predict that will be a wrong answer. This works on most people and you can try if for yourself on others to see too, its an interesting conversation starter.
A bat and a ball together cost 1.10, the bat costs 1.00 more then the ball, how much did the ball cost?
You might have an answer flash in your head right away with fast inaccurate fast mind but if you check that answer with your slow but more accurate conscious awareness, you can see that answer is wrong but it takes effort to do. The answer of ten cents is not the right answer but most people have that pop in their head because of the fast thinking mind that we rely on most of the time.
The fast unconscious mind is taking everything in and trying to make sense of it really fast. Its 11 million bits a second. But sometimes it makes mistakes. The slow conscious mind is 40-50 bits and lazy but it can check things and bringing the unconscious mistake to conscious awareness it can correct it.
The next thing to understand is about carl jung and the 4 ways the unconscious complex he called shadow deals with reality. The shadow is an unconscious complex that is defined as the repressed and suppressed aspects of the conscious self. there are constructive and destructive types of shadow. Carl jung emphasized the importance of being aware of shadow material and incorporating it into conscious awareness lest one project these attributes onto others. The human being deals with the reality of shadow in 4 ways. Denial, projection, integration and/or transmutation.
Now I believe what is happening when a question that exposes a conflict in a belief, idea, something that someone said, or even about someone they idolize and the question gets avoided, that is the fast unconscious mind going into denial and the response is often a projection. This also can trigger and emotional response activating the amygdala more and the pre frontal cortex less where rational conscious thought is said to happen and the amygdala starts to get the body to flood itself with chemicals/hormones.
Its like the fast mind knows conscious awareness will say its wrong. so it blocks it off to defend itself from admitting its wrong. in cases of denial and because it blocked off the rational mind, the responses are often irrational. Like personal attacks do not address the issue or answer the question. I think we can agree people have a very hard time now days admitting when they are wrong, I am not exempt from this myself I do realize. And we can see how badly questions avoidance effects us if you watch political meetings and watch them avoid questions all day long.
Ok, so the first thing to go over is denial as that is the main one I expose with questions. A disowning or refusal to acknowledge something I think is a good definition for it here. There is a really good 2 minute video I use as an example of this. A streamer named vegan gains claiming lobsters have brains after some one said he can eat lobsters because they do not have brains. He googles it and starts to read what it says. When he gets to the part where is says neither insects nor lobsters have brains, he skips it and says they literally are insects then skips over that line and continues to read the rest. Just like in the fast thinking video, his fast mind already read that line and refused to acknowledge it in unconscious denial, and just skipped it.
The person then tells him he skipped it and he reads it again and sees the line this time. Still being defensive of his claim and refusing to accept he was wrong, he tried to discredit the source and its the lobster institute of maine. If you would like to see the video for yourself its 2 minutes by destiny clips and the video is called " Destiny Reacts To Vegan Gains Ignoring Search Result That Contradicts Him". Justin turdo avoiding the question of how much his family was paid by the we charity 6 times in a row I think is denial as well. I think jordan peterson not being able to answer his own question of does he believe god exists and asking what do and you mean then saying no one knows what any of those words mean while being seemingly angry is think is another really good example of denial... and projection. And while JP find those words difficult, other people understand them easy. Even he does pretty much any other time they are used.
So projection is next up. Psychological projection is a defense mechanism people subconsciously employ in order to cope with difficult feelings or emotions. Psychological projection involves projecting undesirable feelings or emotions onto someone else, rather than admitting to or dealing with the unwanted feelings. Many times a mind in denial will use projections for responses. Someone getting mad and telling the other person to not interrupt when they have been doing that a lot themselves would be an example. I have done this myself. The people who tell me I dont understand my own questions and my point is wrong when they do not even know what the point is are all examples as well. I ask them to steel man my position to show then understand my point and they just avoid that question as well clearly showing they do not understand my point.
Now we have integration and/or transmutation. Integration is when you bring an unconscious behavior into conscious awareness and accept it. I know that I interrupt people talking sometimes even though I think that is wrong to do. I have a conscious awareness of it, but I have not been able to completely change the behavior.... yet. That is where transmutation comes in. Transmutation is to completely change that unconscious behavior. From being impatient to being patient, of from distrust to trust, hate into understanding and love even.
So was this understandable or confusing?
if you understand it, do you think its possibly true?
Do you have any questions? If you have any tips I am would gladly listen.
To who? YOU?!!!!!!!!
@@CloseToTheEdge89 >>To who? YOU?!!!!!!!!""
To jordan peterson. Did you not watch the video?
It may be that he hasn't heard of that particular research. Or that he has but was being polite.
Every expert still has blind spots. You can't know everything about anything.
I met JBP but I confess I didn't want to get into a debate with him, partly because there was a very large crowd and it felt wrong to occupy too much of his time. I was surprised by how tall he is. When you see him on screen, you don't get that sense. I'm 183cm so he's at least 190cm.
Jordung Pebbleson very wise shaman. Tell Grug, "Grug only. Not tribe. Grug want tribe? Clean cave, bad Grug!" Then Grug see Jordung with longnose at Holobunga feast. Grug think, "Why longnose have special feast only for longnose, if tribe so bad? Why Jordung go to feast?"
I remember reading "The True Believer" by Eric Hoffer years ago, which commented on this subject.
I just recently read that book. Yes very very interesting. Currently been studying this subject and planning on writing my thesis around it.
I read it too because Robert W. Whitaker wrote an article on it. I read ALL of Whitaker's articles and it's still available even though he died in June 2017. He was my idol and I've read EVERY single book of Any author he ever mentioned or referenced in an article. I wanted to Think like Whitaker. I'd say I've succeeded in that. So I've read ALL of Hoffer's works, ALL of William E. Woodward's works, ALL of Inglis Fletcher's works, ALL of Larry Niven's works, "War Through the Ages," "Might of the West," "Decline of the West" (probably the most difficult reading of all books I've attempted), ALL of Robert Ardrey's works, "Lone Star," and a few others.
Did he charge $400 to stand next to him or is that only for the Lobsters?
What have you achieved with your life in comparison? Anyone pay to see you speak?
The stare is focused concentration that most clinicians have, nothing special, it's just deep listening.
Fear, anxiety and strong emotions can rule your life. Most people have 'issues' but some are overwhelmed and project these energies in extreme ways. JP understands these people very well because he is so similar. He has a lot of emotion and anxiety in my opinion, except he channel and tempers that using his logical brain. This results in his intense presence... He's wound up like a coiled spring. If he wasn't as smart as he is, it's likely he'd be lying on the road with the protesters.
He comes off as extremely angry on Twitter.
Your comment about his presence and hyper focus reminds me of what someone once said about the actor Tom Cruise. When you had his attention, he paid attention to you to such a degree that it made you feel like the center of the whole universe, but then the next moment he'd be moving on with his life. I believe he'd remember you if you met him some time later, but you'd be like the wallpaper on the room when he's not talking with you.
Hm. Fascinating analogy. These types then, when engaging in conversation listen to such an extent they’re like a FLY on the Wall and suddenly when the conversation ends you become the wallpaper the fly sits upon.
When I took both of my sons to see him in Toronto a few years back he had that total focus on people when he was answering questions. He did go out of his way a few times to avert my gaze after i asked him what he knew of Freemasonry given some of the biblical quotes hes focused on are also used in different masonic liturgy.
Indeed! He is CLEARLY Mason/Luciferian adjacent or in private. It's taken me years to finally admit it to myself...
@osoarrogant6331 "in the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God" there's a couple others I don't remember off the top of my head as it was 4 years ago.
@@CHGLongStone you’re a paranoid conspiracy theorist if you think that talking about the logos has something to do with masonry just because they also talk about it.
@@partiellementecreme 🤣 must be a Pageau fan with the Chick Comics hot take
Yeah, because he was thinking 'Who is this crank?'
Did he give you a discount code for his rug?
Don't forget about the expensive busts of himself he had commissioned
I enjoy listening to both of you.
The comparison to Rasputin is a pretty interesting one
Why?
@@Alfred5555Occultism (the equivalent of ancient psychology the same way alchemy was the precursor to chemistry).
@@vitordelima That doesn't really answer my question or make sense.
Alchemy was interesting, I think much of it's conflation with chemistry is false, it's more like psychology, but psychology is like a mere shadow of it, essentially just the cheap most rudimentary tricks of things worked out via alchemy. I think Jung started looking into alchemy.
@@Alfred5555Rasputin was an occultist.
@@vitordelima So what?
Ground breaking stuff... This would apply to most people in politics.
Did you ask him why he would fall for Ben’s bull crap?
I don't think he even believes it. But he knows where the money comes from.
Ed looking handsome as hell today. Tea and crumpets by candlelight and chill.
Anyone know the name of the ending song?
There are stares and stares. Some comments appear to think that you are talking about the evil eye, a totally different stare from the attentiveness stare.
Wonder if he was that way before his near death come back. Often those people are changed.
That penetrating stare that you speak of. I believe that comes from religious experience, having seen something beyond a veil of conscious experience.
Ed has a very compelling stare, in my experience! Particularly in person but also online.
Have you seen that one scene on one of his recent trailers, where his eyes look (in a positive sense) practically reptilian? I don't know about the whole gravity of his stare itself, but his eye colour sunlight refraction is quite something, haha.
@@Alfred5555 He’s never looked remotely reptilian that I’ve seen, but I’ll keep an eye out. Very bright, pretty eyes though especially with the dark shiny hair.
The "intense stare" reminded me of what people said about another very popular and charismatic man; Hitler, who, if you read accounts of what he was like in conversation, also used such a stare to make people feel somehow unnerved or special. It was as if he had some kind of aura- an effect that I found extremely interesting.
(I am not saying Peterson is Hitler - merely that perhaps it is a trait common to very charismatic individuals.)
The politics are certainly different but one might not rule out the notion that they share a similar employment.
Reading this, I'm trying to remember if I've ever met anyone like that - and how I responded.
I'm inclined to think that I found myself uncomfortable with the intrusive nature of such a stare - and did my best to politely extricate myself from the conversation.
Eye colour plays a big part, I think. I find pale eyes a lot more unnerving to stare into than darker one.
Somewhere I read about a survey showing that wokism is very low among the STEM and high among the Lib Arts
Ted Kaczynski had some very similar points to JP there
This is true. "Industrial Society and It's Future" should be required reading.
...interesting approach on your mind and feelings after meeting him!...But, he's just another soul crying out loud for Freedom!...as We all are!...
This was a fantastic breakdown of the psychology behind left wing authoritarian behaviour. JP talks a lot about those fuelled by resentment. It all makes complete sense when I consider the people I've known who were just angry, spiteful, deceitful narcissists who signalled their virtue like nobody's business but would never actually lift a finger to fix the problem they were screaming about. It was clear they were weaponising the problem to axe grind a personal grievance, and now I understand why. Thanks The Jolly Heretic.
Still waiting for Dutton to appear in JBP's podcast
Peterson was selling expensive busts of *himself* a few years ago. There is no clearer case of narcissm.
Maybe he has other personality traits he constantly criticizes others for too.
And this is different from every RUclipsr selling merch of themselves...how?
He have said so many wise things so I would def buy one haha
@MrCarGuy
Or it is perhaps indicative of a sense of humour, a sense of irony.
I have some busts.
I have an angel from my grandmother’s grave (which I rescued from a skip) that I enjoyed moving around the house on the sly after seeing the Dr Who episode blink.
I have a Donald Trump bottle opener, given to me by a friend for whom it was an unwanted gift.
And I have a bobble head of Dexter the serial killer.
@@jeremyashford2145why thank you for sharing!
yeah I find him to be an unsavory character
The thumbnail needs to become a meme
Could Ed interview Robert crumb?
I feel i have benifited from listening and reading Jordan Petersons books more than my personal reading of philosphy including budhist psycology over a 40 year period the way he compares history human pyscology and great litreture as exampled for his points really resonate with me Having sai that i also am fortunate to be able to enjoy and benifit from most of your points of view ? Yes there are dofferances betteween JP and yourself as yourself and Thomas Sowell whos you spoke about recently Personaly i look for the similarities this gets me pointed towards subnects to pay future attention to ? As regards staring ive noticed that people who have active and agile critical thinking abilities ie musicians often have a stare ore look whist engaging ? Ive always put this down to being engaged 100% ? Ive not met JP but would love to perhaps one day if the time is right Thank you for your observations ive found your talks very interesting Keep it up squire
I know what happens
I read the book
I believe I just got
The Peterson look
Nice Steely Dan reference. Well done.
A "Cause" rather than a "project".
Sometimes, when people have unresolved anxiety, they just get addicted to benzos.
He didn't make anyone feel like anything, he's a famous person talking to you. Because you hold him in high regard, you've created this stare and feeling yourself.
It may have been a narcissistic stare?
A bit of practical performative rhetoric?
@@Alfred5555Another sign of sociopathy.
@@Alfred5555 performative? I sensed you had some kind of a chip on your shoulder... very strange
@@billynitrus If someone purposely performs a behaviour, that behaviour would be called performative yes. Hence my question, because the commenter implied it might have been a narcissistic behaviour.
Strange how you claimed to be desensitized but I seem to of struck a nerve, ahaha. Chip on my shoulder about what, magic hypno eyes?
You didn't invite him on !??
Related, but not directly, there is also a high co-morbidity between Gender Dyphoria and Autism Spectrum Disorder. A common feature of many ASD people's coping/learning stategies is intense roleplay. In order to understand topics they are interested in but confused by, they will get way WAY more bodily and mentally involved in the topic than a neurotypical person might. It looks a lot like auto-didactic method acting.
One might speculate that a not-insignificant portion of Gender Dysphoria or just transgender presentation in people on the autistic spectrum is this sort of 'auto-didactic method acting'.
That Rasputin stare
That was one very interesting take on Peterson right there, I thought.
I watched a clip from an interview between JP and a male Kathy Newman type agitator, where, JP locked onto the man with what was described as predatory intensity, before verbally taking the man apart. Scary stuff!
Everybody better start working on their hypnotic stare then! I’m sure it comes more easily to an intelligent person with lots of life experience being face to face with people. Especially if you know a lot about psychology. Any people facing job - sales, politics etc should help too!
Just be and listen, without talking to yourself in your own head and without trying to look a certain way. The stare is nothing you do. It's what you don't do.
Dutton, are you aware you have a doppelganger in Stanley Kubrick's 1975 historical epic "Barry Lyndon"?
It isn't hypnotic. It's all in the desire of the person being listened to to have engagement. To be heard, acknowledged, and either scolded or affirmed. The better you can sell that act, the more successful a psychiatrist, counselor, priest, or politician you will be. People will make you wealthy and powerful if you can convince them you're really listening. It makes them assume that you care.