They Landed A Passenger Jet Without Permission! | Dana Air Flight 363
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This is the story of dana air flight 363, on the 20th of february 2018 a dana air md 83 was making the flight from Abuja to port harcourt international airport. The plane had 44 passengers 2 pilots and 3 flight attendants. This would the the second flight of the day for the pilots of flight 363. The plane took off and everything was normal and by 8:20 pm lagos area control had cleared the pilots down to 22000 feet and soon after that they were cleared down to 8000 feet. As they descended the captain briefed for a landing on runway 21 at the airport. The weather was a concern for them. They had a bit of cumulonimbus clouds in their way down to runway 21 and approach control wanted to know how theyd handle the clouds in their flight path. The captain basically kicked the can down the road and told approach control that he would like to get closer to the runway and then make a decision, which isnt a bad idea at all. But approach control had bad news for the pilots of flight 363 the intensity of the rain at the airport had picked up meaning that it was now way hardred to get this MD 83 on the ground. The weather was deteriorating and the rain was now a full blown thunderstorm. At 6:45 pm the jet was cleared for the LOC approach to runway 21. At this point the captain noticed that the DME 2 was not working. DME or distance measuring equipment is exactly what it sounds like, the plane uses beacons on the ground to calculate where the plane is in relation to the beacon and passes that information onto the pilots. So to rectify this the pilots switched the beacon over to nav 1 and the LOC track came on. All was saved. They were still 12 miles from the runway and so they still had some time to go before the plane touched down. Now all they had to do was contact the tower and get this plane on the ground, but they could not raise the tower on the radio. As it turned out the captain had made a mistake when punching in the frequency for the tower and thats why they werent getting through. But 1 minute and a half later the pilots were in contact with the tower. The first officer was now peering through the clouds to try and get a visual on the runway and the captain swicthed the wipers to full blast to try and get through the thick clouds that surrounded the airport. The the captain got sight of the runway he said “runway in sight landing” and he took the jet down. Just 32 seconds after that happened they got the sink rate warning which meant that the plane was losing altitude way too fast. But as the jet got lower and lower the runway came into view more prominently and despite the wind which was at 22 knots by the way the plane touched down smoothly. But then the pilots got the shock of their lives when they had run out of runway. As the end of the runway loomed through the fog the captain slammed on the brakes hoping that the jet would stop in time. He also extended the spoilers and the reversers, but that too was not enough. Despite maximum braking the plane was slowing down too slowly they needed more braking power but there was no way to get it, the plane was at its limits. But before the runway could run out the plane veered off to the left and then started going through the wet mud that surrounded the runway. Even with the wet mud slowing the plane down the jet went on for another 978 feet and then it came to a stop. When all was done and dusted none of the 49 people onboard suffered any form of injuries. They all walked away. The plane and the runway lights were the only thing damaged in this case.
As soon as they got to know that everyone was okay the investigation started. They needed to figure out how this plane landed to know that they needed to know where the plane landed on the runway. So they went over to the touchdown zone on the runway to take some measurements of the tyre markings. But to their surprise they found no tyre markings where they expected them. They then drove down the runway hunting for the tyre markings, they - Наука
I landed into Port Harcourt the following morning after the accident. Wish there were a link I could send you a picture of the aircraft beyond the runway. Your graphics are incredible,...looks exactly like PH. Well done.
fellow Nigerian?
Yes please
I flew out of Chicago Midway airport the day after a plane crashed through the outer fence of the airport and killed a person in a car on a road. It definitely did not inspire confidence to look across the apron and see a crashed plane from the airline I was flying!
Must say that on this video the audio seems better & clearer.
Good video! 👍🙂
I watched this on a desktop. Hope he picked the feedback from others(maybe even You) from the previous videos. I like this channel because of no-nonsense-straight-to-the-point.
This was a recent event and underscores the folly of single pilot commercial flight. Great report today.
There were two pilots on board. Got an actual point?
Did you not watch until the end? The second pilot was not able to fly the plane. So the captain flying might as well have had just an unskilled passenger sitting in the co-pilot's seat.
@@debbiegiles9144: So you can't listen to the video and have an actual clue re what happened?
The POINT is there is a LOT of workload for BOTH pilots, even when there are no big issues. With one pilot and imperfect automation, flying commercial would get meaningfully riskier. And when things go wrong and troubleshooting AND flying are needed -- that's a fiasco.
So many things wrong with this landing. Luckily, everyone was okay. Great video! Thank you. 😁
You should go search for the Dana Air crash of 2013 where all perished almost getting to the perimeter of the airport. I lost dear relatives of mine. I know their licence was suspended but never knew there was another incident 5 years later.
I'm so sorry for your loss. My heart goes out to all who lost their lives and to the loved ones who grieve for them. 🙏🏻
I'm Nigerian and I sympathize with you.
My sincerest condolences.
@@KristinCortez Thank you. You are very kind. One never gets used to this. Their children became orphans that day. The flight was full of well-wishers who went for a society wedding. A happy occasion turned tragic
@@orighomisandediare4990that's so terribly sad
Thanks for another well researched, produced, and presented video.
You should do a video on Southern Airways Flight 932. This fatal plane crash is better known as the plane crash that killed 37 members of the Marshall football team. This flight was taking them from Carolina back to west Virginia after a close 14-17 loss to Eastern Carolina, and it was the only flight scheduled that year for the team.
Ah Dana Air, this is the second accident report featuring the airline. CRM issues, recruitment problems in vetting crews properly and lax decision making. They could have gone around in this situation.
Dana Air should fire Captain Crud.
Keep up the good work. Be careful of tapping anything near you. It results in a thumping noise. It may not be noticeable to many, but for those with good audio systems it sounds like something bumping a wall. You are not the only yyoutuber who was this issue.
Many good mic pre amps have a low cut switch for vocals.
Great video! can you please make an episode about National Airlines Flight 27?
Just goes to show you how important runway maintenance is & adequate runway lighting.
You say everything that can go wrong did go wrong, but considering the bad weather, wet runway, overloaded captain, almost useless ATC communication, and how far he put the plane down, it's really a miracle there were no fatalities or even injuries. The area around many runways is not so forgiving if a plane skids off going that fast.
On the slot machine of disaster this flight got perfect 7s.
I'm not sure if I missed it but... once the pilot realised the situation, what would have happened if they went TOGA? Could they have taken off and gone around safely? Just wondering.
That would have been the right move.
Depends on if they'd deployed the reversers or not. You can't go around once the reversers are deployed.
Depends on how "invested" the pilot is at the time of "realization"... Arguably, upon touching down, the Captain realized he'd used up a LOT of runway... SO arguably, calling a go-around (TOGA) would've been the correct choice over throwing everything into braking... Such is one of the reasons some pilots hesitate about using reversers, checking the brakes for efficacy before engaging the "point of no return" because once the reversers are engaged, you CAN NOT go back... It's stop the plane or crash...
SO it would've ONLY been safely feasible if the pilot realized upon touchdown and brakes applied, that there simply wasn't enough runway ahead... BUT (I suspect) between guilty conscience for landing in such conditions, the Captain felt he was "in too deep" already, and tried to save it... He's very lucky he didn't cause worse harm... ;o)
I think he could have done a "splash and dash " especially at 135kts
Those on board were remarkably lucky. the company's scheduling of the F/O was at fault. When a comparatively junior pilot is told to fly, is he supposed to dig into the Captain's qualifications, or do as he's told? The first wrong decision, from which everything elde followed, was tangling with tha thunderstorm. They don't last very long, so a short hold somewhere nearby would have left them in much better shape. (Apart from the visibility problem, thunderstorms often produce micro bursts, which can be lathal in themselves.)
Great video…keep it up! 👍🇺🇦👍🇺🇦
What’s sad to think is this crash like so may others are solved if a pilot could hold for 10-20 minutes to let weather improve or so on and they’d land just a tad late but be fine
Wet runway with a cross wind worse possible landing. Having flown in the left seat many times it's a nightmare. I always aimed at landing on the first 5% of the runway to give me plenty of braking area.
This was a great video, although you said that the plane touched down "smoothly". But... it seems you have very low expectations 😂
While the title “without permission” was factual, it was almost entirely misleading. Permission was the very least of their problems.
Landed with 20% of the runway...
That lad must have worked on aircraft carriers🤣
I really got to like flying on the MD-80s. I think they are close to out of service now.
Noel Philips, the airline blogger was on one 2 weeks back. An ex American example delivered in 1983. Just beautiful inside, it was.
@@michaelosgood9876 I got upgraded to first class once and it really felt like a flying pencil from the front row. We were over the Rockies but it had a waggle🙃
@@naughtiusmaximus830 you lucky bugga flying on MD80🙂
@@michaelosgood9876 It was probably a 1:3 chance in the 90’s for a domestic flight. 737s were a little more common. Cross country DC-10/MD-11 or sometime L-1011s. 747s were mostly international. 727s were nearly done but Northwest ran them into the 2000s.
@@michaelosgood9876 ah, Noel Philips, the dude who recently reviewed the new Chinese passenger jet.
Why didn't the go around?
This literally just happened again 10 days ago
wonder if they had any weather data on board?
like a weather radar or doppler or something... given the planes age, possibly not.
also, that airport seems tiny, but, how could they land that far down and believe it was still normal?
given the sudden visual confirmation, and the series of events, I honestly originally thought it would turn out to be they landed at a different airport or on the wrong runway
How do you come down past 80% of the runway and STILL commit???
AND don't say "poor visibility" because if that's the case, he never should've TRIED to land the plane... It's 1000 feet past the INITIAL threshold, NOT 1000 feet before the end of the runway!!!
Yeesh... LUCKY pilots, LUCKY operator, and VERY LUCKY passengers and cabin crew! ;o)
I mean ok, it was a screw up but man did it also show how much safety margin's involved - true, they also veered off and the mud would've definitely slowed them quicker but they had less than 2000 feet of runway and only 900 odd feet of verge - yes they pranged the plane but 2900ft to stop ftom 135kts is amazing!
Just so you know, you could do with putting a high-pass filter on your voice track. You may not be able to hear it through your speakers, but your voice sounds rather boomy.
Sounded better than ever on this laptop.
@@ScottDLR It's definitely something you wouldn't pick up on a laptop, I'm talking about frequencies at 100 Hz or lower, which even the best laptop speakers in the world can't deliver.
@@ScottDLR Agree, better than ever, but very boomy nevertheless. He's getting better on the audio and I'm sure will keep tweaking.
One of the things about MACI I love is that he's always evolving and improving all aspects of the channel.
Do you believe that there are fairies at the bottom of your garden?
you've gotta have rocks in your head to fly with an african carrier. like playing russian roulette with a semi-automatic handgun.
Mini!!!
Shame this wasnt thw result of Avaianca 52 where they just decided to land regardless
The final landing clearance is only a requisite when there is communication between pilot(s) and Air Traffic Control (ATC). Pilots initiate their trip with a general "[flight id], you are cleared to the destination airport, [airport designation], via [...]" clearance from ATC that is read back to ATC and is totally valid until landing in case of loss of communication.
So if the destination tower is incommunicado then it's fine and dandy for everyone to just do whatever they want??
@@atallguynh No, it's fine to act under whatever clearance was received and colluted without correction. Aircraft in an incommunicado or not controlled field can take off and issue a flight plan on the first communication they establish with ATC, and receive clearance to destination after taking off:
You pronounced Port Harcourt terribly wrong 😂 it's Har-Court (Like court room). I wouldn't worry though just fyi
Actually in Nigeria it be Podo Hadagugu
@@pm7375fellow Nigerians?
Yes please
So, had the airport personnel neglected to do runway testing?
This is the second air incident video I've watched in a row involving Port Harcourt Airport. Weird.
Yikes
DME doesn't tell aircraft "where it is" relative to "the beacon"...it purely provides distance in NM from aircraft to where Beacon is located...usually (but not always) combined with VOR transmiteer. These may or may not be close to runway. You don't "Switch Beacons", you switch which nav receiver you use to receive signals.
"Localiser", completely different receiver to DME.
I am very sure that the creator of this episode knows all this perfectly well.
You may now sit down again 🤨😉
The F/O was inexperienced and the Captain was incompetent. A complete review of the Captain’s employment history and those who evaluated him would probably be an interesting story.
Welcome to Africa, where aviation rules are not really rules. More like....Suggestions.
SOSDD...
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enough with the feet fetish for rwy/distance, please learn metric system!
The US exerted sufficient hegemony (or leadership, if you like) over early aviation that feet and other U.S. customary units ended up in all kinds of places, even though the international community managed to bring in a lot of metric. I'm sure you can get a real pilot to give an example of the schizophrenic mixing of U.S. and S.I. units in a common NOTAM or METAR or whatever.
God bless you for coming to Nigeria. Please do for DANA AIR 992 🥹🥹
Another excellent episode Sir, this one could have end very bad, also hearing this airline has some concerning personnel issues!!!🙏🛬😱❣️
God bless you for coming to Nigeria. Please do for DANA AIR 992 🥹🥹