Sad that we are still almost 60 years later still having this same discussions.... who do we trust, who do we blame, revolution, high crime, low employment etc etc.... we need to wake up now People....
Equality is not when everyone has the same things. Equality is when everyone looks at each other as equals. There is a huge difference between the two.
Also, there's no guarantee that you can change anyone's mind. You got folks who were born in the Jim Crow era who are STILL racist to this day. Wake-up call: *you cant change that. * You need independence & power so you can live free on your own terms first, regardless of whether someone sees you as an equal or not. TF I look like waiting for validation from another human, JUST to be seen as an "equal"?? Fuck that, I'm not praying my whole life for someone else to give me the most basic decency. Give me my own land & my own independence with my own people. I'm good.
@@natesamadhi33 you can change racist minds. You can also make someone who not racist become racist. Happens all the time. They learned racism in the first place. Not something people are born with. Most racists are ignorant and were raised around their own people in their own land and never experienced people who were different and now we live in a global society and everyone is forced to interact with people who are different. The future of the entire human race rests on the entire world working together and figuring out how to avoid destroying our planet and how to survive outside our planet if it can’t be saved.
@@jmpayne333 lol...oh you sweet ignorant child.. first: even if you **can** change minds still doesn't negate the fact that it's not **guaranteed** that you'll change.. Also, the idea that "most" racists are just innocently "ignorant" is...cute lol. Black folks been writing & preaching for centuries about trying to be seen as equals, yet systematic racism & segregation is still a thing. & sure, you could make the argument we've made "progress", but many of those so-called progressive moves were just economical decisions to help the state prevent collateral damage from riots, or from trying to lose a war (re: Lincoln & the Civil War), not out of a genuine love for us black folk. If it were that easy to change racists' minds, slavery & Jim Crow would've never gone on for as long as they did (but also, slavery was never fully abolished, it just got moved to the prison industrial complex under the 13th amendment.) Many free black folks & enslaved black folks died without ever being seen as an equal by non-black people. You can go your whole life trying to change racists' minds all you want, waiting for other people to validate you..you tell me how it works out for you while I work on empowering my people & helping us get tangible opportunities to clean up our communities & our countries & getting tf outta this hellscape. I no longer give two shits about what whyte people think of me, whether they like me or not, & my life is better because of it.
Except fewer actors. Today there is no MLK, Malcolm X, JFK or Bobby. People like this simply do not exist today. They can't. The Powers to be made certain of that.
I was 14 that summer. A friend came over that evening before he was shot. We're talking about radio traffic on the HAM network saying MLK was going to be killed. I don't know what I was suppose to do, I was very troubled, and saddened. In recent years I learned he was snuffed out in the Hospital! THERE IS A THEM.
Facts...from the wound they described then seein him in that casket...he most likely didn't die from bein shot... rumor is the suffocated him and spit on him in the hospital...pure hatred for a country where white people would have to share equality with black people...
I'm a white Republican male. Huge fan of both Dr King and Malcolm X. These were cultural icons who brought an awareness to the American people. Shape shifters. American icons. Both died needlessly. Both knew they were going to die. 🙏🙏🙏💔
Same here. We were taught about the Civil Rights Movement both at home & in school. Unfortunately IMHO the message & goals of Dr King are being suppressed/ignored by corporate media. Listened to 6 hours of Malcolm X speeches on cassette over 30 years ago after studying him. He had to be the greatest orator of the 20th century. I will always believe that protection of Dr King was compromised after he spoke of opposition to the war in Vietnam.
I'm a Republican and I also am a fan of MLK and Malcolm X, hard to believe? I'm certain beyond a shadow of a doubt there are millions more who feel the same way, but hey whatever
An absolute must watch! I wanted to say more, equally relevant, but will end it thanking all involved in the propagation of those brave, brilliant people's statements reflecting reality itself. 👏👏👏👏❤️
The footprints of Panthers are all Around in NYC politics. Many of our eleected officials grew up with activist parents. Revolutions begin in the mind. Hugh Masakela signed a CD for me. He wrote on it, "Love,Learn and Teach!".... It will eventualy get the job done!
Martin Luther King and his brother are like twins they murdered his brother too they found him in the bottom of the pool dead when his wife said and made it clear that he was an excellent swimmer so that assassinated him and Martin Luther King so vicious man not right at all they always take the ones that are so good to us.😰😢😥😓😪💔🤲🙏🌍
MLK realized that violence once enacted is incredibly difficult to turn off. The black community is still fighting but not the enemy MLK fought, instead, we are fighting each other, and proud of it. MLK was and is right
MLK was part of the problem! Once he realized that and changed his ways that's when he was taken out. Life wasn't like they portray back in those days for everyone. It wasn't about race it was about class. Y do I need your stuff when we got our own? The begging of the end for us!
@@lonnieparks9553 Now I’m not sure what you mean or know by King changing his ways. However, I believe if you want to know which approach is more effective, The irony of X and King living at the same time, being powerful yet opposing voices for the same movement should not be overlooked. And while looking into that, take note that before X was killed by his own, he had come around to acknowledging the importance of King
@@kirkstarromand2694 what I mean mean is king was detrimental to the cause. Name any qoute leader (real) like x ,or the Panthers,etc that has their own street, r even mentioned n his story books. then u get the watered down n version of it. Also when it comes to x infiltration was the game. He who conquers his story re rites his story
Before his death he stated his dream was becoming a nightmare. Mainly because things were moving too fast and America was not ready for it. He said himself I’ve lead my people into a burning building. As for the violence we are seeing today. Unfortunately it’s the cultural we support. Thomas Swell said it best, We faced more discrimination and more hardships. Although we still had a sense of community and love for one another.
....we too quick to say x was killed by his own. X's..murder was orchestrated, and set up by the united states government if I get someone to kill you then I'm more of the culprit than the actual person who pulled the trigger because I have more to gain. ..king and malcolm may have differed on strategy but they was fighting against the same system, the system that oppressed blackpeople in every way....this same system created by the whiteman/united states government the real hidden hand...this is what you have to understand...and the blackcommunity is fighting the same enemy that malcolm and martin fought...and we like every other race have fought among each other...the Irish, the chinese, the Japanese the Africans and all thru out Europe these people have fought among each other....so dont just point out that we as blackpeople fight among each other...yes blacks do have to learn to submerge their differences and unite on the bases of what we have in common..most of this will stop once we learn this
1968, Black Journal 7 MLK on how he wanted to be remembered 2:16 Fannie Lou Hamer 3:54 John Singleton 5:21 Rev. Jesse Jackson 5:45 Dr. Dennis Jackson 6:12, 24:30 Hosea Williams 23:20 The Hon. Elijah Mohammad 28:18 Two discussion panels: Green Background, left to right (full view 52:06): Alexander Allen: Robert Johnson Kathleen Cleaver ("Mrs Eldridge Cleaver" good riddance to that convention!) Lou House (host) Rev. Andrew Young Bill Strickland Le Roi Jones Red Background, right to left (full view 30:16): Julian Mayfield Dan Watts William Greaves (host) Claude Brown Richard Moore
I was hoping this was cut together from more complete footage that I could look up, but no luck so far. Some stuff from the original airing got cut out of this clip that didn't really add anything - there were a bunch of pretty cringeworthy moments where the original producers just kinda... stuffed in some upbeat music and clips of black musicians and athletes. Not sure if they were trying to lighten the mood or what, but it was pretty jarring! lol Found a transcript here, and this is where I got a couple of names that weren't explicitly listed in captions: search.alexanderstreet.com/preview/work/bibliographic_entity%7Cvideo_work%7C3212739 I'm taking it on faith that they're accurate. I recognize some big figures like Fannie Lou Hamer and Rev. Jesse Jackson, but wasn't familiar with others like Hosea Williams and John Singleton. I've heard The Hon. Elijah Mohammad referred to a LOT but have never actually seen an image of him or heard him speak, so that was a cool surprise! The above is actually the full transcript for the entire 1968 production, I guess. What's featured in AfroMarxist's video is from part 7 of 7 from that year. If you want to look at the transcript yourself, you'll find everything in this clip starting at 6:03:35. I found the original here, which includes the following years' productions as well: americanarchive.org/catalog?f%5Bspecial_collections%5D%5B%5D=black-journal&sort=asset_date+asc&f[access_types][]=online
Am white but this is my worldview 100%. The Panthers weren't violent or racist/prejudiced whatsoever. Whiteness is just so fragile it can't take Black people standing up for their lives or rights to ANY degree. See: the Black Lives Matter movement and the "All Lives Matter" panic response. It's pathetic and embarrassing. Conditions for whites are about to get bad in terms of poverty, hunger, etc due to COVID and the economic hardships that are coming. Maybe we should've listened and had empathy for our Black brothers and sisters all these years. You tried to tell us. 1 in 6 children is dealing with hunger; we just passed 300,000 deaths from COVID. Capitalism is the common enemy here.
Make that 600k deaths today. Thats double fron 6 months ago. Wow. Its quite sad. Also most white people are poor and working class. They are just duped into thinking the social hierarchy f race and class. White working class thiunk they are closer to bezos or charles koch then they are to the black homeless man.
"If God be for us, who can be against us?" Romans 8:31. Kathleen Eldridge is my favorite on this panel. Major disgrace to know even till this day we lack men for our wars! Noose ties wrapped around their necks blocks oxygen to their brains.
Precious ancestor watched over us in life and continues to watch over us with his legacy, his words. No in the North his words did not ring as loud because we could already eat at lunch counters. We were already integrated. Neither was what it was cracked up to be and often not desired.
This still haunts black people none of us listens or we make fun when someone is making a true point ...it seems prideful ...pride always come before the fall
Every thing she says is so true even today and she speaks with such dignity, when Africa American speak like this they are considered a threat we are like an abused child kidnapped abused from generation to generation
We ought to pay tribute &homage to Dr MLK Jnr 4 paying the ultimate price on April 4th 1968.He took the fight to the racist White regime non violently !.Rightly so he won the 1963 Nobel Peace Prize.He inspired &continues to inspire generations !.
Interesting that a lot of these people speaking on these different specials didn't like or agree with Dr. Kings movement or methods which is fine, but reminds me of how much Dr King and others accomplished inspite of the racist government, lack of support by naysayers who gripe but no actions. We had or have all these intelligent speakers but very few receipts showing any action small or great. I respect Dr King and appreciate his and other with him paying the ultimate sacrifice
(16:18-18:24)mlk accomplished everything he started..then was killed when he started attacking economic injustices.. with the poor people's movement campaign..mlk was the best leader by far
MLK’s form of non violent resistance was well supported by the U.S. government despite their eventual killing of them. There were many FBI informants tasked with infiltrating black groups & pushing a nonviolent & integrationist stance. But when it comes to MLK’s critique of capitalism, his anti Vietnam was, anti imperialism, antiwar views, & desire for wealth redistribution & universal basic income…They basically suppressed everything he stood for & used the parts of his ideology that were convenient to him, after literally killing him…. The others were right. Any lack of achievement on their part can be largely attributed to the fact their government was trying to destroy their progress & kill them when they did show progress. Martin Luther King died at a Sanitation striker’s rally helping people secure better wages… he was a Democratic socialist & that is why the leaders of this country killed him, brutally
It's an obvious realization shown here whom on this panel & of many others as a prime example continues to allow themselves to be let astray blinding them of the ultimate purpose and meaning of such profound diligence by one's actions battle with an enemy of evil ignorance and fear! Keeping GOD at the helm heart & soul leads on ! PEACE FOR ALL even for those whom oppose & or deny and doubt!
You know as far as what option black people should pursue it really doesn't matter if we're not all unified in our resolve. Whatever route we choose for pursuing freedom and equality we have to do it as a cohesive unit. That's the crux of our problem. Whether we work in the system or work towards armed struggle it won't prove to be effective if we're not all in.
If we are not "all" united in "our" resolve, the people who have been in charge and, those who are in charge right now (the military industrial establishment) will win over us...every time! In every revolt or, uprising during slavery (upwards of 150) it was a black man...who told every...time!
So, true the problem is some of these FFs got a throat full of chicken grease, a baby benz and some second hand shit, they swear up and down they're free, so the struggle is not theirs. Basically enemies of progress. This isn't a black or white thing, I've met good men from all races treated like shit because they were righteous. All upright men and women need to stand together against this bullshit.
Oh yeah black people and black leaders actually did this back in the 60s and the decade I was born in the in the 70s it's unfortunate that in your day and age we will probably never see this happen again....
42:47 - I really liked Andrew Young a lot!! He is so great!! He was MLK Jr. Closest friend. & I got my chance to meet him last year on MLK birthday. 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
God gives us a Leader and a template on how to tear down walls of inequalities and segregation - but like this panel, we tear down and analyze the Leader! Why do we do this to our anointed Leaders whom God sends??? Who and what benefits from this? Simply, Grow ...build on what Dr. King left us. Look what guns/violence have done to our own community and hoods from 1968 to 2022! Collaboration of ALL - including ALL-For All, reduces the fear of retaliation-revenge. Planning evil for one is always a downfall for humanity.
This was Dope!! Couldn't have this type of intellectual exchanges of ideas today.Today people just yell over one another,not letting each finish their full point of view.
That's why through pop culture they influenced young black men to extend their adolescence well into adulthood. To dull their intellect. To make it a mark of effeminancy and shame to be known as a deep and philosophical thinker-- particularly when they are young men. And on the other hand, rebrand having a criminal track record as a badge of honor so that a self hating thug becomes a community folk hero and a beacon of masculinity.
The last 2 years of his life he did realize that he may of put us/ his people in a burning house, I thank the Most High he was able to gain knowledge from honorable Elijah Muhammad, and The great Malcolm X....All praises to The Most High Yahua....
Dr. Moore (the older gentleman) was on it! He had the most concise, most well-rounded argument, and really seemed to understand the structures of power that are arrayed against all of us. Those who talked up 'violence' as the simple answer, or who saw 'racism' as the larger problem, were suspect ... in my book. 🤷♂ In those days, it was often difficult to discern who was a Fed, and who wasn't.
The mam speaking at 24:31 spoke the truth from his soul and universe. Once Black folk embraces the idea of killing on a global scale, we will see true change, equality, and equity.This love "thy neighbor" who hates and kills us like cattle has to be thrown away. Once we do this, no nation or people in this world or universe can stop us!!! Look what the Haitians did to the so-called Super Powers of the time. They defended the French, English, Spanish, and coalition of nations who provided mercenaries, and they all LOST!!! As a result, Napoleon had to sell lands to pay off his war debt....AKA the Louisiana Purchase. Lastly, this revisionist history BULLSHIT has to stop....they are all lies!!! Real change comes from what WARFARE always has, and all ways will do.
You’ll never beat an enemy bringing a knife to a gunfight, You’ll never beat an enemy bringing a gun to a tank fight, You’ll never beat an enemy bringing a tank to an aerial assault dropping bombs on your head,
MLK realized that the black community could not out-muscle White America in America - or even worldwide. So he took a non-violent and a legislative approach to equality gratifying that these two footholds would lead to an economic leverage for the black community. It was and still is a slow process but economic power is the most influential prowess in this nation and the surest measurement for equality (or equity). This was the end goal for MLK: economic freedom for the black community. Debating how to achieve this means nothing without the compromise for unity amongst the black diaspora - MLK knew this too. To hear some of these activist offer divisive tactics against MLK instead of unifying metrics and accomplishments was kind of disappointing but it does create opportunities to further debates about how, seemingly, the black community has become more corporatized ie more violent since his passing.
No one is in agreement with the answer to be agreed When we understand why we are living in such miserable conditions, we will know what to do. Prepare to manage a nation.
The do nothing, bench warmers at it again. Contributing hot air to the table for the children to eat, after cutting down the chef that was busy preparing them meat. Black America's love affair with the do nothing talkers and open disdain for the walkers, who are actually moving the ball forwards, to this day remains a mystery to me.
After he gives his speech in Washington DC at the pool. and the Lincoln memorial they had the nerve to assassinate this man after he get his I have a dream speech that still gives me chills and goosebumps and my body and my heart breaks for his family and for him he endured so much abuse just to help and make a change in this world so that black people and white people can unite as one.....💔😓😢😪😓😥😢🌍
23:45 has particular relevance to now - there needs to be a push toward electoralism first, and when the masses realize the failure of electoralism, then they'll want to move toward extra-institutional methods.
I’m betting black Americans are regretting not following Malcolm X, instead of Dr. King. Knowing how African Americans situation has not changed in America for the majority.
It wouldn't had mattered who they followed. These men are not god they are just men. You can't put all your faith in man you will get disappointed all the time. Malcom X was no better. The problem with these men is that they were not true prophets.
Who said Malcolm X, was a prophet, Malcolm was no Dreamer, he was a Realist ok. If Malcolm X was no leader, ask yourself then, why Was Malcolm X, never tought in School huh? Why did the CIA, try to Assassinate Malcolm X, in Eygipt. Gett the fook oughta here with your B. S.
The FBI killed MLK. He started the biggest march of the time. It was the BLM movement of its time. Listen to the whole speech of MLK. They never talk about his anti imperialism, anti capitalism, anti war in Vietnam talks he gave. He did all that in the last year of his life. His son shook hands with his killer claiming i know you didn't kill my father now. It was proved in court
The key word is ORGANISE. Mobilization should only be done towards Organizing people for massive, sustainable action. What caused the collapse of the movement after Dr. King's assassination is cause the organization part wasn't properly done or owned by the Afro-Americans, it dependended, to a great extent to funding from without the black movement and communities. Don't get it twisted brothers and sisters, no non-black is for your total political and most importantly economic freedom and advancement. Do you, segregation should be the first step. Just needs a little logic and common sense. Don't settle with inappropriate behaviour!
Some our people also have to be held accountable for knowingly aiding a hateful, oppressive system. Basically sacrificing their own people for bread crumbs and a Tea spoon full of delusion.
Kings approach some agree and some don't. Especially back then when Malcolm was around. Being that black's only made up of 11% of the population in the States then, waging war would have been futile. Pick up weapons and fight back seems logical but does it make sense overall. King was brilliant on the civil rights road to equality imo. Then the Black Panther's came along and was sadly extinguished because the cops was offing most of them left and right. Even though his way persevered it came at several cost and his legacy recognize that today. I would've loved to have met him in person.
I agree. Dr King had the best strategy to date. You can’t take something without the law on your side and being out gunned. Yes, people got killed regardless but it would have been worse trying some of that other stuff. That’s why progress was made while Dr King was alive and these activists have just been talking for 54 years.
This panel that is so critical of Dr King but I ask, what did they do? What was the alternative? What solution did they have? How are you going to out muscle those who have all the weapons and make all the laws? Its easy to Monday morning quarterback but where was they're plan?
I think many people missed the point of what mlk was trying to do. He wasn’t beginning to white government to be nicer. He was uniting black and white citizens. He realized that’s where change comes from. Equality is something you cannot take.
@@8213apice power is not a tangible thing you can grab. the only power is information and money. Without uniting citizens have zero of it. 60% of the world doesn’t want lockdowns and all these covid restrictions. That’s 5 billion people and it’s not enough to change anything for the most part. MLK Jr was not an idiot. He understood that better then most people do today.
So, how do u get equality? Over 100s of yrs black ppl have been none violent and rewarded w devilish treatment and images and lies of us somehow being the bad guy. Force is the only thing we never tried.
Eh...no. this aint necessarily true. Later into his career, King himself said: "First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate, I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the K/K K, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to ‘order’ than to justice; who prefers a negative peace (which is the absence of tension), as opposed to a positive peace which is the presence of justice. [...] We have fought hard and long for integration, as I believe we should have, and I know we will win, but I have come to believe that *we are integrating into a burning house*.” He realized that integration and "uniting" wasnt the *ultimate goal. What good is integration if you can still be systematically & disproportionately denied equitable living conditions, even within that integrated community? What good is integrating into a fucked up situation with people who still think you dont deserve rights? "Uniting" doesnt mean shit if the person you're "uniting" with still hates you. Case in point: when Ruby Bridges finally got accepted to a white school, the white students got pissed off and bullied her everyday. Is that really what we want?? If you base your "equality" on whether OTHER people outside of yourself will see you as an "equal", you'll never be free, because there will always be ignorant fools who hate you. **500** years later & we still fighting this shit. Now if you want integration, that's perfectly fine, & you should be free to do that, but let's say you're trying to integrate in a place that's not good for you. What next? If things don't work out, you need a REAL home you can come back to. You need *power & self-sufficiency* first before trying to build in a foreign, unstable place. King expanded his view to tackling capitalistic inequality & how that inequality is what tangibly keeps black people from having our own power, land, & autonomy. If we controlled our own economic situation with full autonomy, we could comfortably use our power to control how we lived on our OWN terms, and we wouldnt need whyte people to validate us. THAT'S what ultimately pissed people off, because now King was talking **money.** Folks in the govt can do all the fake empty platitudes of saying "Blck Lives Matter" all they want, or saying -now- we have the right to be "human" (lol), but when it comes to putting their money where their mouth is & actually giving us excellent healthcare, affordable mortgage rates, better schools & less prisons, more (GOOD) black hospitals, healthy AFFORDABLE food access, police officers who are actually trained to stop racial violence, higher life-expectancy rates, AND actually giving us agricultural power--now when it comes to that, now they stuck on stupid.. because REAL power is just that: *not being dependent on a system that's foreign to our community.* We dont need whyte people around for us to thrive. We was doing it before colonization for a looooong time, just in a different way. We could be comfortable all on our own if we gather enough resources amongst ourselves & put the right people in charge to manage it all. It's all about space & opportunity.
I love Kathleen Cleaver. 50 years later. Our people are poor uneducated. Hyper sexual and criminal are the rule. Our people were done after WW2. Our labor is not needed. Their strategy is to contain and exterminate. I concur with the extermination of the non productive. The rap generation and off shoot of the gangster pimp generation is atleast 70 years old. I see beging mentality ill brothers in Seattle for the last 30 years. They don't work and they've made it rough on regular people like me. I've been stopped by police over 120 in 15 years. 6 times in the last 6 months. I'm old with no criminal record. That doesn't matter to them. Game over
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but I see jealousy towards King in the body language of a couple of these folks, not everyone who disagreed with his approach, just a couple...
I can see that as well. They are jealous possibly because they didnt get the pub. But dont have the spirit of God in them to have people follow them, or navigate through the political spectrum
Wow iss amazin dat da same scene uh destruction fa killin anutha black man 😢Jess happened & we saw cities being destroyed 2 days in 2020 uh go💯😤 52 yearz ago🤨#Ri✌🏽 #King👑OfDaSouf✊🏽💪🏽🤎
Another great vid x0x So much still rings so true. It's something to hear Jim Brown's words. I can't wipe the image of him proudly sitting with Donald Trump in the white house out of my mind. The election is over, even though Trump is arrogantly refusing to accept it as of December 2020, but there is so much work to do on the road ahead with Biden and Harris. I wish I felt more hopeful.
Sad that we are still almost 60 years later still having this same discussions.... who do we trust, who do we blame, revolution, high crime, low employment etc etc.... we need to wake up now People....
He sold you out, that's why
Kathleen Cleaver everything about her is just perfection.
You took the world's right outta my mouth! I was literally gonna make a comment along those same lines and it's the first comment I see!✊🏾
Except her husband lol
@@christiandavis3417 Yes, R.I.P. to the great Eldridge Cleaver.
She was a baddie that’s for sure
@@arpegio88 nah we ain’t rockin with that reactionary Reaganite rapist
Equality is not when everyone has the same things. Equality is when everyone looks at each other as equals. There is a huge difference between the two.
And when they do, they will have pretty much the same thing anyway. What's your point?
Also, there's no guarantee that you can change anyone's mind. You got folks who were born in the Jim Crow era who are STILL racist to this day. Wake-up call: *you cant change that. *
You need independence & power so you can live free on your own terms first, regardless of whether someone sees you as an equal or not. TF I look like waiting for validation from another human, JUST to be seen as an "equal"?? Fuck that, I'm not praying my whole life for someone else to give me the most basic decency.
Give me my own land & my own independence with my own people. I'm good.
@@wj3186 😁🙃 yeah right!
@@natesamadhi33 you can change racist minds. You can also make someone who not racist become racist. Happens all the time. They learned racism in the first place. Not something people are born with. Most racists are ignorant and were raised around their own people in their own land and never experienced people who were different and now we live in a global society and everyone is forced to interact with people who are different. The future of the entire human race rests on the entire world working together and figuring out how to avoid destroying our planet and how to survive outside our planet if it can’t be saved.
@@jmpayne333 lol...oh you sweet ignorant child.. first: even if you **can** change minds still doesn't negate the fact that it's not **guaranteed** that you'll change..
Also, the idea that "most" racists are just innocently "ignorant" is...cute lol. Black folks been writing & preaching for centuries about trying to be seen as equals, yet systematic racism & segregation is still a thing. & sure, you could make the argument we've made "progress", but many of those so-called progressive moves were just economical decisions to help the state prevent collateral damage from riots, or from trying to lose a war (re: Lincoln & the Civil War), not out of a genuine love for us black folk.
If it were that easy to change racists' minds, slavery & Jim Crow would've never gone on for as long as they did (but also, slavery was never fully abolished, it just got moved to the prison industrial complex under the 13th amendment.)
Many free black folks & enslaved black folks died without ever being seen as an equal by non-black people. You can go your whole life trying to change racists' minds all you want, waiting for other people to validate you..you tell me how it works out for you while I work on empowering my people & helping us get tangible opportunities to clean up our communities & our countries & getting tf outta this hellscape.
I no longer give two shits about what whyte people think of me, whether they like me or not, & my life is better because of it.
This might as well be today...the more things change, the more they stay the same. Same game, different actors each generation.
Well put
Right On!
Except fewer actors. Today there is no MLK, Malcolm X, JFK or Bobby. People like this simply do not exist today. They can't. The Powers to be made certain of that.
I was 14 that summer. A friend came over that evening before he was shot. We're talking about radio traffic on the HAM network saying MLK was going to be killed. I don't know what I was suppose to do, I was very troubled, and saddened. In recent years I learned he was snuffed out in the Hospital! THERE IS A THEM.
Facts...from the wound they described then seein him in that casket...he most likely didn't die from bein shot... rumor is the suffocated him and spit on him in the hospital...pure hatred for a country where white people would have to share equality with black people...
Raoul miori was the assassin it was a 2 man hit squad. Done by the CIA to prevent communism.
Let this be told!!!
We don’t get together and strategize or either talk amongst ourselves like this anymore.
Yes but talk is cheap,we need to take action
Sure tf don’t!
Martin Luther king, you were one of the greatest.❤️❤️❤️
Cons 😸
I Wish we had more of those Strong leaders Today who were not Afraid of the Man.Peace
What an amazing series of clips. Some tragedy to it when we see where we're at now.
Would it be possible to gather the surviving members of this group for a discussion today?
Yes long as you a government puppet like MLK
I'm a white Republican male.
Huge fan of both Dr King and
Malcolm X. These were cultural icons who brought an awareness to the American people. Shape shifters.
American icons.
Both died needlessly. Both knew they were going to die. 🙏🙏🙏💔
Same here. We were taught about the Civil Rights Movement both at home & in school. Unfortunately IMHO the message & goals of Dr King are being suppressed/ignored by corporate media. Listened to 6 hours of Malcolm X speeches on cassette over 30 years ago after studying him. He had to be the greatest orator of the 20th century. I will always believe that protection of Dr King was compromised after he spoke of opposition to the war in Vietnam.
Both Were Set Up And Assassinated... BIG Difference.....
Not sure how you can be a Republican and look up to Dr. King and Malcolm
I'm a Republican and I also am a fan of MLK and Malcolm X, hard to believe? I'm certain beyond a shadow of a doubt there are millions more who feel the same way, but hey whatever
@gamestreetbiz I genuinely am curious why, if you are a fan of MLK and Malcom X, you're a republican. Like do you perceive a dissonance there?
An absolute must watch!
I wanted to say more, equally relevant, but will end it thanking all involved in the propagation of those brave, brilliant people's statements reflecting reality itself.
👏👏👏👏❤️
Brilliant, important, historical, expertly edited. Thank you so much for this upload. It means a great deal to me.
Look at history repeating itself!
Makes me so upset :( we need action!! Peace be with u !! We will over come this!!
Goatvvitch we will! peace be with you too family ✊🏿
Trump has regressed the nation with his white supremacy carrot.
White people never really changed.
@@robertrichard6107 I don't think Trump was a racist, i do believe he allowed stupid p.o.s, to get in power and further agitate a sleeping bear.
This sister is beautiful and intelligent!!!
“Whatever we get, we have to take” powerful statement @10:47
THE 100%TRUTH!!!
And she's absolutely 100% true because till this day I still have to go get what I got to get...
Shes so powerful
The footprints of Panthers are all Around in NYC politics. Many of our eleected officials grew up with activist parents. Revolutions begin in the mind. Hugh Masakela signed a CD for me. He wrote on it, "Love,Learn and Teach!".... It will eventualy get the job done!
Just found this channel in my recommended @ a time where im trying to study afro marxism, shout out to you
Martin Luther King and his brother are like twins they murdered his brother too they found him in the bottom of the pool dead when his wife said and made it clear that he was an excellent swimmer so that assassinated him and Martin Luther King so vicious man not right at all they always take the ones that are so good to us.😰😢😥😓😪💔🤲🙏🌍
MLK realized that violence once enacted is incredibly difficult to turn off. The black community is still fighting but not the enemy MLK fought, instead, we are fighting each other, and proud of it. MLK was and is right
MLK was part of the problem! Once he realized that and changed his ways that's when he was taken out. Life wasn't like they portray back in those days for everyone. It wasn't about race it was about class. Y do I need your stuff when we got our own? The begging of the end for us!
@@lonnieparks9553 Now I’m not sure what you mean or know by King changing his ways. However, I believe if you want to know which approach is more effective, The irony of X and King living at the same time, being powerful yet opposing voices for the same movement should not be overlooked. And while looking into that, take note that before X was killed by his own, he had come around to acknowledging the importance of King
@@kirkstarromand2694 what I mean mean is king was detrimental to the cause. Name any qoute leader (real) like x ,or the Panthers,etc that has their own street, r even mentioned n his story books. then u get the watered down n version of it. Also when it comes to x infiltration was the game. He who conquers his story re rites his story
Before his death he stated his dream was becoming a nightmare. Mainly because things were moving too fast and America was not ready for it. He said himself I’ve lead my people into a burning building. As for the violence we are seeing today. Unfortunately it’s the cultural we support. Thomas Swell said it best, We faced more discrimination and more hardships. Although we still had a sense of community and love for one another.
....we too quick to say x was killed by his own. X's..murder was orchestrated, and set up by the united states government if I get someone to kill you then I'm more of the culprit than the actual person who pulled the trigger because I have more to gain. ..king and malcolm may have differed on strategy but they was fighting against the same system, the system that oppressed blackpeople in every way....this same system created by the whiteman/united states government the real hidden hand...this is what you have to understand...and the blackcommunity is fighting the same enemy that malcolm and martin fought...and we like every other race have fought among each other...the Irish, the chinese, the Japanese the Africans and all thru out Europe these people have fought among each other....so dont just point out that we as blackpeople fight among each other...yes blacks do have to learn to submerge their differences and unite on the bases of what we have in common..most of this will stop once we learn this
It's ashame how negative and small minded of him they believed of him !!! He sparked the brains of our people to possibilities in life in America !!!
1968, Black Journal 7
MLK on how he wanted to be remembered 2:16
Fannie Lou Hamer 3:54
John Singleton 5:21
Rev. Jesse Jackson 5:45
Dr. Dennis Jackson 6:12, 24:30
Hosea Williams 23:20
The Hon. Elijah Mohammad 28:18
Two discussion panels:
Green Background, left to right (full view 52:06):
Alexander Allen:
Robert Johnson
Kathleen Cleaver ("Mrs Eldridge Cleaver" good riddance to that convention!)
Lou House (host)
Rev. Andrew Young
Bill Strickland
Le Roi Jones
Red Background, right to left (full view 30:16):
Julian Mayfield
Dan Watts
William Greaves (host)
Claude Brown
Richard Moore
I was hoping this was cut together from more complete footage that I could look up, but no luck so far.
Some stuff from the original airing got cut out of this clip that didn't really add anything - there were a bunch of pretty cringeworthy moments where the original producers just kinda... stuffed in some upbeat music and clips of black musicians and athletes. Not sure if they were trying to lighten the mood or what, but it was pretty jarring! lol
Found a transcript here, and this is where I got a couple of names that weren't explicitly listed in captions:
search.alexanderstreet.com/preview/work/bibliographic_entity%7Cvideo_work%7C3212739
I'm taking it on faith that they're accurate. I recognize some big figures like Fannie Lou Hamer and Rev. Jesse Jackson, but wasn't familiar with others like Hosea Williams and John Singleton.
I've heard The Hon. Elijah Mohammad referred to a LOT but have never actually seen an image of him or heard him speak, so that was a cool surprise!
The above is actually the full transcript for the entire 1968 production, I guess. What's featured in AfroMarxist's video is from part 7 of 7 from that year.
If you want to look at the transcript yourself, you'll find everything in this clip starting at 6:03:35.
I found the original here, which includes the following years' productions as well:
americanarchive.org/catalog?f%5Bspecial_collections%5D%5B%5D=black-journal&sort=asset_date+asc&f[access_types][]=online
And Don't forget Malcolm X too three years after he Died.
Am white but this is my worldview 100%. The Panthers weren't violent or racist/prejudiced whatsoever. Whiteness is just so fragile it can't take Black people standing up for their lives or rights to ANY degree. See: the Black Lives Matter movement and the "All Lives Matter" panic response. It's pathetic and embarrassing. Conditions for whites are about to get bad in terms of poverty, hunger, etc due to COVID and the economic hardships that are coming. Maybe we should've listened and had empathy for our Black brothers and sisters all these years. You tried to tell us. 1 in 6 children is dealing with hunger; we just passed 300,000 deaths from COVID. Capitalism is the common enemy here.
Wowww! That was real deep
Excellent commentary. Sad, but true. And, we are all in this together.
Make that 600k deaths today. Thats double fron 6 months ago. Wow. Its quite sad. Also most white people are poor and working class. They are just duped into thinking the social hierarchy f race and class. White working class thiunk they are closer to bezos or charles koch then they are to the black homeless man.
"If God be for us, who can be against us?" Romans 8:31. Kathleen Eldridge is my favorite on this panel. Major disgrace to know even till this day we lack men for our wars! Noose ties wrapped around their necks blocks oxygen to their brains.
Cleaver. Her last name is. Cleaver. She never used her crazy azz, black woman hating ex-husband's last name 🙄
@@almondy1963
Wait, have you seen his "cod piece" clothing, Eldridge's, that it. A mess😩
Great debate, great minds. 🙌🏿👌🏿
Precious ancestor watched over us in life and continues to watch over us with his legacy, his words. No in the North his words did not ring as loud because we could already eat at lunch counters. We were already integrated. Neither was what it was cracked up to be and often not desired.
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Afro marxist this was awesome
Thank you
@@AfroMarxist Who is the woman used as your profile picture as I love the way she looks straight up above and ahead!
Its from an Angela Davis poster
This still haunts black people none of us listens or we make fun when someone is making a true point ...it seems prideful ...pride always come before the fall
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Idk if violence is the answer, but non violence certainly wasn’t. And it’s a valuable lesson to have, but we should apply it now
Every thing she says is so true even today and she speaks with such dignity, when Africa American speak like this they are considered a threat we are like an abused child kidnapped abused from generation to generation
“You ain’t black unless you vote for me” Joe Biden
@@chubbrubbed2567 exactly!
We ought to pay tribute &homage to Dr MLK Jnr 4 paying the ultimate price on April 4th 1968.He took the fight to the racist White regime non violently !.Rightly so he won the 1963 Nobel Peace Prize.He inspired &continues to inspire generations !.
"If America do this to this brotha, none of us can ascribe to his moral magnanimity."--Cornel West
Interesting that a lot of these people speaking on these different specials didn't like or agree with Dr. Kings movement or methods which is fine, but reminds me of how much Dr King and others accomplished inspite of the racist government, lack of support by naysayers who gripe but no actions. We had or have all these intelligent speakers but very few receipts showing any action small or great. I respect Dr King and appreciate his and other with him paying the ultimate sacrifice
We had too many procrastinating Afro-American people during the Civil Rights ⏲times.
@@sharonmccray4660 agreed
(16:18-18:24)mlk accomplished everything he started..then was killed when he started attacking economic injustices.. with the poor people's movement campaign..mlk was the best leader by far
MLK’s form of non violent resistance was well supported by the U.S. government despite their eventual killing of them. There were many FBI informants tasked with infiltrating black groups & pushing a nonviolent & integrationist stance. But when it comes to MLK’s critique of capitalism, his anti Vietnam was, anti imperialism, antiwar views, & desire for wealth redistribution & universal basic income…They basically suppressed everything he stood for & used the parts of his ideology that were convenient to him, after literally killing him…. The others were right. Any lack of achievement on their part can be largely attributed to the fact their government was trying to destroy their progress & kill them when they did show progress. Martin Luther King died at a Sanitation striker’s rally helping people secure better wages… he was a Democratic socialist & that is why the leaders of this country killed him, brutally
The only way we can win is SEPARATION! LET THEM HAVE THEIR SYSTEM!! We have tried everything BUT UNITY AND SEPARATION!!!
That's the TRUTH
They don’t hear u tho
@@Tyweezy84 weezy if they dont hear me the calamities will increase, the dry bones in the valley!!!
nice one comrade...keep em coming
How long shall they kill our prophets while we stand aside and look....Redemption song by Bob Marley.
It's an obvious realization shown here whom on this panel & of many others as a prime example continues to allow themselves to be let astray blinding them of the ultimate purpose and meaning of such profound diligence by one's actions battle with an enemy of evil ignorance and fear! Keeping GOD at the helm heart & soul leads on ! PEACE FOR ALL even for those whom oppose & or deny and doubt!
29:09 to 30:22
The fundamental question. The only question whose answer really matters.
You know as far as what option black people should pursue it really doesn't matter if we're not all unified in our resolve.
Whatever route we choose for pursuing freedom and equality we have to do it as a cohesive unit.
That's the crux of our problem. Whether we work in the system or work towards armed struggle it won't prove to be effective if we're not all in.
If we are not "all" united in "our" resolve, the people who have been in charge and, those who are in charge right now (the military industrial establishment) will win over us...every time! In every revolt or, uprising during slavery (upwards of 150) it was a black man...who told every...time!
Most importantly do away with white people. That’s always the biggest disconnect
Agreed to add not many especially in today's time who can dont want the torch of leadership to bring about the cohesion it takes.
@@daffyduckfan4478 Can't do that bro because, in truth...literally...they are us...they came from the Black Man!
So, true the problem is some of these FFs got a throat full of chicken grease, a baby benz and some second hand shit, they swear up and down they're free, so the struggle is not theirs. Basically enemies of progress.
This isn't a black or white thing, I've met good men from all races treated like shit because they were righteous. All upright men and women need to stand together against this bullshit.
Wow! Black people actually having a conversation. Sharing opinions, disagreeing, no yelling, no chair throwing!!
Exactly
Yeah we can do that
Oh yeah black people and black leaders actually did this back in the 60s and the decade I was born in the in the 70s it's unfortunate that in your day and age we will probably never see this happen again....
What you're referring to the overall degradation of humanity, not just black people. No one of any ethnicity is having civil dialog.
42:47 - I really liked Andrew Young a lot!!
He is so great!! He was MLK Jr. Closest friend. & I got my chance to meet him last year on MLK birthday. 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
God gives us a Leader and a template on how to tear down walls of inequalities and segregation - but like this panel, we tear down and analyze the Leader! Why do we do this to our anointed Leaders whom God sends??? Who and what benefits from this? Simply, Grow ...build on what Dr. King left us. Look what guns/violence have done to our own community and hoods from 1968 to 2022! Collaboration of ALL - including ALL-For All, reduces the fear of retaliation-revenge. Planning evil for one is always a downfall for humanity.
I agree. And this is why we are where we are. We are still a divided ethnic group.
This was Dope!! Couldn't have this type of intellectual exchanges of ideas today.Today people just yell over one another,not letting each finish their full point of view.
A lot going on today can't say nothing without someone jumping on you.
That's why through pop culture they influenced young black men to extend their adolescence well into adulthood. To dull their intellect. To make it a mark of effeminancy and shame to be known as a deep and philosophical thinker-- particularly when they are young men.
And on the other hand, rebrand having a criminal track record as a badge of honor so that a self hating thug becomes a community folk hero and a beacon of masculinity.
The last 2 years of his life he did realize that he may of put us/ his people in a burning house, I thank the Most High he was able to gain knowledge from honorable Elijah Muhammad, and The great Malcolm X....All praises to The Most High Yahua....
Who is the light skinned Brother at 31:02 He makes sense to me. Btw I love your channel, and hope you are doing well.
Thank you
He does in one sense but contradicts his point at the same time if you really understand what he is saying. Its doesnt make sense
@@Michael-qs1yd It is Christian philosophy. In the world but not of the world. It makes sense to me.
YOU WON'T GET ANYTHING FROM THE OPPRESSOR IF YOU DON'T EFFECT THE MONEY,HIS GOD
His truth goes marching on. Rest in PEACE Dr. King . Your work will never be forgotten.
Dr. Moore (the older gentleman) was on it! He had the most concise, most well-rounded argument, and really seemed to understand the structures of power that are arrayed against all of us. Those who talked up 'violence' as the simple answer, or who saw 'racism' as the larger problem, were suspect ... in my book. 🤷♂
In those days, it was often difficult to discern who was a Fed, and who wasn't.
Wow all the same words 60 years later. They have us chasing our tale blindly. Now it's worse
The mam speaking at 24:31 spoke the truth from his soul and universe. Once Black folk embraces the idea of killing on a global scale, we will see true change, equality, and equity.This love "thy neighbor" who hates and kills us like cattle has to be thrown away. Once we do this, no nation or people in this world or universe can stop us!!! Look what the Haitians did to the so-called Super Powers of the time. They defended the French, English, Spanish, and coalition of nations who provided mercenaries, and they all LOST!!! As a result, Napoleon had to sell lands to pay off his war debt....AKA the Louisiana Purchase. Lastly, this revisionist history BULLSHIT has to stop....they are all lies!!! Real change comes from what WARFARE always has, and all ways will do.
Jim Brown made a great point…
So much on inclusion but nothing about black wealth?!? Such a shame!!!
Kathleen a great activist and so beautiful haha
Saw her in a talk with Chomsky so trying to learn more.
Kathleen Cleaver is one of the most beautiful women I've ever seen!
She just gathered a stage full of highly educated men as if she was teaching them in school.
"I want you to say that i tried!" Deep...
You’ll never beat an enemy bringing a knife to a gunfight,
You’ll never beat an enemy bringing a gun to a tank fight,
You’ll never beat an enemy bringing a tank to an aerial assault dropping bombs on your head,
...Just catch em when they put one leg at a time inside their pants, like all humans do.
WE HAVE TO EVEN TODAY PROTECT OURSELVES OUR FAMILIES AND OUR COMMUNITIES AND ESPECIALLY THE CHILDREN OUR LOVED ONES.
It has been written,
AND NO MAN SHALL BUY YOU
KJB
So interesting. Never heard these aspects. Nice comp!
Y’all need to ask Jesse how did he and Gary Masoni got out of Memphis when everything was shut down right after Dr. King was assassinated
A wonderful woman.
Man I forgot how smart and gorgeous she was, I watched this when I was three.that Afro was mint, not like the sloppy, lopsided afro we see today.
The women 2day just don't care of they wear and afro..it looks like they just jumped out of bed and said I'm good and left 4 worker whatever.
The solution was and is SEPARATION
MLK realized that the black community could not out-muscle White America in America - or even worldwide. So he took a non-violent and a legislative approach to equality gratifying that these two footholds would lead to an economic leverage for the black community. It was and still is a slow process but economic power is the most influential prowess in this nation and the surest measurement for equality (or equity). This was the end goal for MLK: economic freedom for the black community. Debating how to achieve this means nothing without the compromise for unity amongst the black diaspora - MLK knew this too. To hear some of these activist offer divisive tactics against MLK instead of unifying metrics and accomplishments was kind of disappointing but it does create opportunities to further debates about how, seemingly, the black community has become more corporatized ie more violent since his passing.
@42:07 The way she handled him and his snide comment was both smooth and brutal...right after "Quoting White People" .. gotta love that.
No one is in agreement with the answer to be agreed When we understand why we are living in such miserable conditions, we will know what to do. Prepare to manage a nation.
Knowledge gives us power that is why the Bible say study to show yourself approved
It also says, in all your getting, get an understanding.
The do nothing, bench warmers at it again.
Contributing hot air to the table for the children to eat, after cutting down the chef that was busy preparing them meat.
Black America's love affair with the do nothing talkers and open disdain for the walkers, who are actually moving the ball forwards, to this day remains a mystery to me.
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After he gives his speech in Washington DC at the pool. and the Lincoln memorial they had the nerve to assassinate this man after he get his I have a dream speech that still gives me chills and goosebumps and my body and my heart breaks for his family and for him he endured so much abuse just to help and make a change in this world so that black people and white people can unite as one.....💔😓😢😪😓😥😢🌍
Who is "They?"
We still ain united
@@thecornastore yeah I know 😓🐱
@idoubtit they U ask???? They government
Malcom x called that speech a circus with 🤡s an all..
AGREE NAACP Has not done a binding of black people over the century of their existence.
LAST NOTE 📝 TO THE YOUTH, THOSE THAT UNDER THE DEVILS OATH 😈, HAVE LOST " ALL THERE POWER 'S🔋
He is faithful to forgive if we truly turn from what he "truly hates"
Martin wasn't even his name and I'm so tired of the media showing us this fake ass leader this man was part of a show that's still work on us 👀
Us?? Well spoken white guy👍🏾..
Well said , even in death he is still a conqueror...!!!
23:45 has particular relevance to now - there needs to be a push toward electoralism first, and when the masses realize the failure of electoralism, then they'll want to move toward extra-institutional methods.
DELIVERED MY PEOPLE INTO A BURNING HOUSE
Now a days it is about the bullets and the ballot
Funny how the conversation went from this to simping for the Democratic party. Guy at 35:55 gets it, totally coopted the movement.
It makes sense considering the Democratic Party is part of the same power structure that had oppressed (and still is oppressing) black people.
@@manuelsalinas5705 yup
Wonderful stuff
Black people don't stick together, it's all about getting yours and forget our own. White, Asian and Jew's mostly stick together
I’m betting black Americans are regretting not following Malcolm X, instead of Dr. King. Knowing how African Americans situation has not changed in America for the majority.
I didn't know about Malcolm X until I saw Spike Lee's movie and watching footages of him than I began to understand who he was and love him as well
It wouldn't had mattered who they followed. These men are not god they are just men. You can't put all your faith in man you will get disappointed all the time. Malcom X was no better. The problem with these men is that they were not true prophets.
Who said Malcolm X, was a prophet, Malcolm was no Dreamer, he was a Realist ok. If Malcolm X was no leader, ask yourself then, why Was Malcolm X, never tought in School huh? Why did the CIA, try to Assassinate Malcolm X, in Eygipt. Gett the fook oughta here with your B. S.
The FBI killed MLK. He started the biggest march of the time. It was the BLM movement of its time. Listen to the whole speech of MLK. They never talk about his anti imperialism, anti capitalism, anti war in Vietnam talks he gave. He did all that in the last year of his life. His son shook hands with his killer claiming i know you didn't kill my father now. It was proved in court
You don't the know the ideas of King. If I were you, I would stop getting the US imperialist version of King and read his books.
The military industrial complex cares not for human rights...
Kathleen Cleaver is an exceptional beauty here. I know that statement is a little (maybe even way off) topic, but it begs to be mentioned.
The key word is ORGANISE. Mobilization should only be done towards Organizing people for massive, sustainable action. What caused the collapse of the movement after Dr. King's assassination is cause the organization part wasn't properly done or owned by the Afro-Americans, it dependended, to a great extent to funding from without the black movement and communities. Don't get it twisted brothers and sisters, no non-black is for your total political and most importantly economic freedom and advancement. Do you, segregation should be the first step. Just needs a little logic and common sense. Don't settle with inappropriate behaviour!
Some our people also have to be held accountable for knowingly aiding a hateful, oppressive system. Basically sacrificing their own people for bread crumbs and a Tea spoon full of delusion.
Kings approach some agree and some don't. Especially back then when Malcolm was around. Being that black's only made up of 11% of the population in the States then, waging war would have been futile. Pick up weapons and fight back seems logical but does it make sense overall. King was brilliant on the civil rights road to equality imo. Then the Black Panther's came along and was sadly extinguished because the cops was offing most of them left and right. Even though his way persevered it came at several cost and his legacy recognize that today. I would've loved to have met him in person.
I agree. Dr King had the best strategy to date. You can’t take something without the law on your side and being out gunned. Yes, people got killed regardless but it would have been worse trying some of that other stuff. That’s why progress was made while Dr King was alive and these activists have just been talking for 54 years.
White man here! I love Martin Luther King Jr!!!! Probably one of the top 5 most influential people in my life.!
I'm done with THEM! Let's take care of US! B1✊🏽
Kathleen Cleaver 💯😍🥰
This panel that is so critical of Dr King but I ask, what did they do? What was the alternative? What solution did they have?
How are you going to out muscle those who have all the weapons and make all the laws?
Its easy to Monday morning quarterback but where was they're plan?
I think many people missed the point of what mlk was trying to do. He wasn’t beginning to white government to be nicer. He was uniting black and white citizens. He realized that’s where change comes from. Equality is something you cannot take.
It doesn’t come
From uniting black and white. It comes from power.
@@8213apice power is not a tangible thing you can grab. the only power is information and money. Without uniting citizens have zero of it. 60% of the world doesn’t want lockdowns and all these covid restrictions. That’s 5 billion people and it’s not enough to change anything for the most part. MLK Jr was not an idiot. He understood that better then most people do today.
So, how do u get equality? Over 100s of yrs black ppl have been none violent and rewarded w devilish treatment and images and lies of us somehow being the bad guy. Force is the only thing we never tried.
Eh...no. this aint necessarily true. Later into his career, King himself said:
"First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate, I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the K/K K, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to ‘order’ than to justice; who prefers a negative peace (which is the absence of tension), as opposed to a positive peace which is the presence of justice. [...] We have fought hard and long for integration, as I believe we should have, and I know we will win, but I have come to believe that *we are integrating into a burning house*.”
He realized that integration and "uniting" wasnt the *ultimate goal. What good is integration if you can still be systematically & disproportionately denied equitable living conditions, even within that integrated community? What good is integrating into a fucked up situation with people who still think you dont deserve rights?
"Uniting" doesnt mean shit if the person you're "uniting" with still hates you. Case in point: when Ruby Bridges finally got accepted to a white school, the white students got pissed off and bullied her everyday. Is that really what we want??
If you base your "equality" on whether OTHER people outside of yourself will see you as an "equal", you'll never be free, because there will always be ignorant fools who hate you. **500** years later & we still fighting this shit.
Now if you want integration, that's perfectly fine, & you should be free to do that, but let's say you're trying to integrate in a place that's not good for you. What next? If things don't work out, you need a REAL home you can come back to.
You need *power & self-sufficiency* first before trying to build in a foreign, unstable place.
King expanded his view to tackling capitalistic inequality & how that inequality is what tangibly keeps black people from having our own power, land, & autonomy. If we controlled our own economic situation with full autonomy, we could comfortably use our power to control how we lived on our OWN terms, and we wouldnt need whyte people to validate us. THAT'S what ultimately pissed people off, because now King was talking **money.**
Folks in the govt can do all the fake empty platitudes of saying "Blck Lives Matter" all they want, or saying -now- we have the right to be "human" (lol), but when it comes to putting their money where their mouth is & actually giving us excellent healthcare, affordable mortgage rates, better schools & less prisons, more (GOOD) black hospitals, healthy AFFORDABLE food access, police officers who are actually trained to stop racial violence, higher life-expectancy rates, AND actually giving us agricultural power--now when it comes to that, now they stuck on stupid.. because REAL power is just that: *not being dependent on a system that's foreign to our community.*
We dont need whyte people around for us to thrive. We was doing it before colonization for a looooong time, just in a different way. We could be comfortable all on our own if we gather enough resources amongst ourselves & put the right people in charge to manage it all. It's all about space & opportunity.
@@8213apice FACTS.
Damn Kathleen Cleaver is Gorgeous!😍✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾
PEACE TO THE QUEEN (*7 ), THE GOD. GOOD HISTORY.
I love Kathleen Cleaver.
50 years later.
Our people are poor uneducated.
Hyper sexual and criminal are the rule.
Our people were done after WW2.
Our labor is not needed.
Their strategy is to contain and exterminate.
I concur with the extermination of the non productive.
The rap generation and off shoot of the gangster pimp generation is atleast 70 years old.
I see beging mentality ill brothers in Seattle for the last 30 years.
They don't work and they've made it rough on regular people like me.
I've been stopped by police over 120 in 15 years.
6 times in the last 6 months.
I'm old with no criminal record.
That doesn't matter to them.
Game over
And Self Loathing
U right about hypersexual because man the things id doo to kathleen .fine ass .
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but I see jealousy towards King in the body language of a couple of these folks, not everyone who disagreed with his approach, just a couple...
I can see that as well. They are jealous possibly because they didnt get the pub. But dont have the spirit of God in them to have people follow them, or navigate through the political spectrum
Wow iss amazin dat da same scene uh destruction fa killin anutha black man 😢Jess happened & we saw cities being destroyed 2 days in 2020 uh go💯😤 52 yearz ago🤨#Ri✌🏽 #King👑OfDaSouf✊🏽💪🏽🤎
I thought same thing.
The Food On Here damn
Andrew Young broke it down
Read I Shared The Dream by Georgia Davis
Powers. This is the women King spent the night of April 3, 1968 with the day before he was killed.
Facts, this is Our Country as Aboriginal Indigenous Blindian People, Demand Justice Ownership.
I Love That FRO !👍👍
Another great vid x0x So much still rings so true. It's something to hear Jim Brown's words. I can't wipe the image of him proudly sitting with Donald Trump in the white house out of my mind. The election is over, even though Trump is arrogantly refusing to accept it as of December 2020, but there is so much work to do on the road ahead with Biden and Harris. I wish I felt more hopeful.
As you can see now Biden and Harris hasn’t done a darn thing. Harris was picked as a token, black woman. Democrats needed the black vote.
@@sookie4195 True. It's embarrassing to see them try to pretend like they care.