Baby Sybil's Christening | Downton Abbey | Season 3
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- Опубликовано: 10 июл 2016
- Tom insists Baby Sybbie to be baptised in a Catholic church. The whole family attends the ceremony.
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Tom was the only person I think Mary was always nice to. Their chemistry and platonic love was really a treat to watch.
@Amber I was about to say the same thing x
She was also seldom nasty to her father. And I don't think I ever heard harsh word between her and Mr. Carson.
Tamar Harrington when Carson decided to not move with her when she was going to marry Carlisle she told him off 😢and when Carson tried to snap her out of her depression after Matthew passed😢 those 2 times are all I can recall but she was horrible to him. Broke my heart for him because he loved her as a daughter... but they made it through 😊
@@Tiffany-vj1tv Well, she was a _little_ snarky to Tom on occasion, too, if it comes to that. Maybe after Matthew died she was in such a funk she could hardly be nice to anyone.
Their relationship was so sweet, also Robert and Tom too, it’s rlly sad that Sybil never got to stay to see their bond
My favorite line is at 3:03: "What's the matter, Robert? Are you afraid you'll be converted when you're not looking?" Hilarious!
I love that scene too!
Do any of you know why this guy isn't uploading anymore? :(
Downton 654 Maybe because now that the show is over, there may be nothing left to upload.
Molly Lea But he was still uploading when the show ended. He just randomly stopped. I really hope he keeps uploading.
I BAPTISE YOU *Dunks head into shallow bowl of water*
Notice the ladies all in lavender-it was a color of half-mourning, one to wear after the period of all black, though some chose to remain in black even past that time.
I was wondering why they were wearing that colour, I thought it was just something to do with christenings back then. Very interesting :)
Thanks !
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Muchas gracias por la información sobre el color lavanda. Saludos.
Wish we still had these traditions. It gave people space & time to grieve.
"Sybil would want you there, she loved you with all her heart & she would want you there" Robert cut short his ridicule, realizing family matters more than anything...great scene.
And an oh, so subtle reminder that what he owes Sybil he can never repay. Guilt is a powerful thing.
When he said that,i felt his pain
I think that was the moment when Cora realized just how much Tom loved Sybil. Putting away any personal displeasure he may have with Robert and his attitude towards Sybbie being catholic and Tom's desire that all of his wife's family be part of this process.
One thing I appreciate about Downton Abbey is how the characters continue to talk about the loved ones who died (ie, the actors left). Very true to life that big events would trigger memories of the departed and wistfulness that they're not here to share the moment. So many shows kill off characters and then you never hear "boo" about them -- it's like they never existed.
It makes me sad he feels the need to make someones religion ridiculous anyway
I loved Mary in this storyline. After loosing her sister she finally seems to want the best for her family and really shows compassion for them.
Her relationship with Tom became one of my favourite things on the show. I loved how they really became brother and sister.
Niffle Puff I agree.
I think it’s Sybil she really is tender for. Even before she died she went out to get her back so that she won’t elope but get married properly and not run off. She wanted her to have the family’s approval even if she knew it was a low chance and she personally disapproved. She always was softer on Sybil because she always was the diamond of her eye. Not necessarily mean when she was hoping Sybil would give up on Tom. But also even after though she knows the family would disapprove of a catholic christening she always thinks of the family and asks him to give them a chance to come over. But she always at heart wanted Sybil and toms wishes and interest at heart
It's so sweet and heartwarming to see how Tom and the sisters go so well together. 🥰
Mary has always been kind to people who needed help. Was never nasty to her maids, was generous to them. Sure she was bitchy to people on her level, her sisters and rich lords and ladies, but they can take it. Matthew saw the best in her and was a kind enough person that she didn't have to wear armor around him. She was never completely selfish and got better as the show went on.
‘He’s a bit of a rough diamond.’
‘I’m very fond of diamonds.’
Mary, posh even in the face of adversity.
The Crawleys being so faithfully Protestant is fitting considering the Abbey was given to them during the reformation and I hadn’t realized that until now 😂
And in the last season when they give house tours, they don’t even know or remember that!
So true! They literally live in a spoiled Catholic abbey! 🤣
Violet s face when the photographer suggests the priest LMAO she delivers everything with one just look, this woman is amazing
Why is nobody talking about how soft and gentle Violet looks as she moves closer to Sybbie???? It’s so heartwarming
"Are you afraid to be converted while you're not looking" Cora is so funny lol.
She's one of my favorite characters after sybil.
I remember the Dowager saying she had been good friends for years with the Duchess of Norfolk , whom she said was "more Catholic than The Pope".
From seeing her actions, I'd say she's more or less fine with Roman Catholics themselves as people, but is uncomfortable with interacting with the Catholic Church itself.
I love that quote. The Dowager is my favourite person to quote.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duchess_of_Norfolk
@@SuperGreatSphinx One word: Arundel.
Little did Robert know that would be his favorite grandchild
And he would be forever known as Donk
Robert always loved Sybbie, she was his first grandchild, and a living legacy of his baby daughter. He came to love Tom as his son later but there was nothing little known in Robert loving Sybbie
1:13 Tom’s says of his brother coming from Ireland to the christening, “He’s a bit of a rough diamond,” Mary says, “I’m very fond of diamonds!”
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diamond
2:57 I swear watching Robert and violet's faces at the exact same time in the same matter is proof that he is greatly influenced by her😂😂😂😂
@Amanda Johnson Yes! I was going to write that in the comments, I noticed that as well...So funny. I think it's a testament to two great actors and also that Robert definitely gets his facial expressions from his mother!
I love how Mary asks if it's allowed for her to be a godmother. She's very respectful and considerate of his beliefs.
"I went to a Mass once in Rome, it was like a gymnastics display" - how very primly over-dramatic in a way only the English can be when confronted with something different xD
I could sort of say the same thing about the Church of England. Despite their claims to be different, they are simliar since both have to kneel on werido-knee stuff, etc
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_(liturgy)
Did he say mass or mosque?? I heard it as mosque
No, no, they are right. I was raised as catholic and I can say that go to mass is like going to gym classes xD I think that part was very funny and clever
@@mariazuniga805 And we shall now kneel, and depending on the pew, keep your back arched unnaturally backwards at a 45 degree angle. Now hold that for about ten minutes.
He brought up Sybil and I gasped, it was so well written.
It's very interesting to see their discomfort with the catholic matter.
Even back in the early 1900's there was still a latent anti-Catholic sentiment in England.
During this time the RCC still taught that Anglicans and Protestants were heretics and could not be saved. The Vatican was heavily involved in stirring up unrest in Ireland and Scotland and was thus seen as a threat. Think of how Europeans and North Americans view Islam today. The similarities are striking.
Timothy Connelly Britain's policy was always to make the world England.
their faces when. the priest joined the picture was. the same as the royals at the wedding
Irish Catholic here, though not a very good Catholic who misses Mass every week.
I too finding it interesting, as I don't know many Protestants except my late uncle's British wife and I don't know the faith of my British cousins, as it is not my business to know. A few years ago, I remember asking my uncle's wife how Catholic grandparents reacted to their getting married. She said they were fine with the marriage. Only she and uncle were caught co-habiting before their wedding, and so Catholic grandmother was pressurising them to marry. I guess grandmother frantically worried about them going to hell for living "in sin."
God, I love how well behaved and British the Crowleys are - no matter how uncomfortable they are, or when they are in the company of someone they can't stand, they behave like it's no big deal. I wish I had such patience and tolerance.
They dont behave like its not a big deal but they can put on a show of being polite... regardless of personal feelings
They’re the masters of pass-aggressive snobbery.
I like when Tom passes the baby to Robert and she flails her little arms for a second like “hey don’t drop me!” Too cute! 😍
love love love the friendship between Mary and Tom
I love the dresses of this period.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dress
@@mystique592 your comment made me burst out laughing!!!
Robert holding his granddaughter was so sweet.
That little baby melts my heart
baby sybbie is so cuteeeee
Thinking that little Sybie would be 100 now.... oh my
I love the looks and little huffs and the body language! Omg and the Dowager is my favorite character! She seems absolutely horrified to have to stand next to the priest!
I can’t believe there is any question about going to your grandchild’s baptism/Christening 🤦♀️
Not everyone believes in something just because you tell them to believe.
then you have never experienced the religion thing, I have it is very real and can break families apart
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baptism
kay kendall actually my Dad is Catholic , my mum is Church of Scotland and I come from Glasgow - my there is a mix in my family and we don’t buy into sectarian nonsense
Cute_Canadian_ Redhead you don’t need to know about the history of the Catholic Church and the reformation to get that it is wrong not to go to your dead daughter’s child’s christening
I miss this show....God, I was crying...
This scene just melts my heart! I absolutely adore Tom and Mary’s relationship.
It's 2018 this scene still makes me tear up
I love how Violet fakes to be surprised by father Dominic lmao, her body language is so expressive
Just how am I supposed to be productive with this available? Thank you, kindly, for the effort employed.
Toms brother and Robert would’ve gotten along swimmingly had the class and religious difference not stood in the way 😂
I would say that class was the problem, as Tom's brother found Robert's barb about catholic mass funny.
Don’t remember how many times I have watched this clip. Love it with sadness.
Poor Sybil
Cora is a hoot! Love her.
Luxa
Cora is also a wise lady
Cora is so beautiful in this scene 😍
"Do you argue with that?" is one of her best lines.
“Help! I was converted while I wasn’t looking!”
One of my favourite scenes of the entire series.
i'm fond of diamonds 😍
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diamond_(gemstone)
Really enjoying these clips. Just got to buy A Moorland Holiday, Series 6 and the Finale then I have them all and will be doing a Downton Fest on the sofa with a box of chocolates. My parents watch their box set of Downton Abbey this time every year. It helps them get through the winter. Thanks for sharing and reminding me of bits I had forgotten. Julian Fellows is such a brilliant writer. A few mistakes in etiquette now and then but I still love it.
So sweet.
1:57 That look when you know you're not going to win this argument.
This is one of my favorites.
Everyone about this is perfect. I don’t think I’ve ever smashed the like button harder on a video. 😆🥰😭
Downton Abbey is a great TV series
This is a great video
2:54 The look on Robert's face....AWKWARD!
Absolutely gorgeous baby.
I loved the ladies dresses.
Mary and Tom = Besties forever
AAAAAHHH !!BABY SYBIL SO CUTE INDEED !!!THANKS FOR THE UP- LOAD .FROM (U.K.).
that baby is soooo cute!!!!!
Fun fact: The photographer at the end is an actual modern photographer 😄
I never liked her very much as the spoilt and mean woman she was most of the time but I have to say I do love the genuine friendship and respect between Tom and her. It is a wonderful thing to see.
One thing this makes clear. Regardless of Catholic v. Protestant, it's the photographers who run the show! (Happens among Jews too. The photographers boss everyone around.)
That baby is a cutie pie 😍
Fair enough Mr Smith.I didnt know that.I had one who wasnt a Catholic and one who was for my Son's Baptism.
You can tell the people in the comment section who have their own agenda and can't even take a few moments to enjoy the writer's point of this beautiful family scene. No one seems to be able to enjoy just living and enjoying familial love these days. Everything has to turn into a discussion about some "issue".
Because everyone has invested in the show u air u views and it was amazing series so the discussions on comments lovely to read as now u can chat about the clothes the actors and well written dialogue
311 people out of 729,454 viewers bothered to comment anything. That's a ratio of 0.0426%. It's practically nothing, if not infinitesimal.
3:05 HAHAHAHAHAHA
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Robert is such a handsome guy!
I love the comment section. As if the animosity between the two is over. Remember, Tom is also Irish. Ireland a country that England occupied for 900 years. Elizabeth's campaigns of subjugation in Ireland.
Why do you think a good chunk of the late 20th century were dubbed "the Troubles" in Ireland? All because Protestant vs. Catholic....
Maybe do a bit of research before ya comment.
For this one, at least watch the episode of "Derry Girls" in which they meet with a class of Protestants.
They can't find anything in common
They can't find anything in common until they realize being an awkward teenager with embarrassing parents is universal
@@katarinaezikovich8812 That's writing; putting a moral in at the end of the episode.
"The Troubles" were in Northern Ireland not Ireland. Northern Ireland is part of the UK, Ireland is not.
If I could like it again, I would.
It shows how much prejudices have been in England and still are against Catholic Church.
This prejudice exists in the States, too, both historically and today. Along with Jews and African-Americans, the KKK also targeted Catholics. And when I converted from the Episcopal church to Rome, my cousins sadly said that they "wished they could be happy" for me. When I was a child, the RC church in Fishers Island was still known as the "maids church."
Why are you not posting anymore!? :(
Because Downton Abbey isn't broadcasting anymore
To be precise, as a non-Catholic Mary can not be a godmother, she can merely be a witness at the baptism. (At least that is the modern canon law, I can't imagine it was more ecumenical in the era of DA.) A godparent is supposed to play a role in the spiritual formation of the child and obviously you do not want a none-Catholic to do that. In popular culture I can imagine the distinction might get blurred, nowadays. don't know how realistic it is Tom would blur them.
Not true I have not an Anglican and anOrthodox as my childrens godparents
@@deleyfamily566 Here is a canon lawyer who says what I said canonlawmadeeasy.com/2007/12/27/can-non-catholics-serve-as-baptismal-sponsors/ Maybe your priest ignored the rules, I don't know.
I’d presume most priests ignore the rules, it’s not the medieval times
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godparent
My experience was my Godmother was a confirmation Catholic. Her husband died suddenly near my birth so another male had to replace an earlier selected person. My parents were permitted to select a replacement because a death had occurred it could have been any male in the family. my 9 year old Godfather was not yet confirmation Catholic. Tom was correct in that in the case of emergency (unexpected death) accomodations would be permitted.
I always found it odd that Tom was so insistent that his baby be baptized Catholic yet when he married the second time he couldn't have cared less what kind of a church it was in.
1:40 always makes me laugh
Where I find all this film in which channal ?
Nika 31 it’s a show and all seasons are on amazon prime with a subscription
No matter how snotty this family can be, they'd made sure to put their arrogance aside to love one another.
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To be fair, the priest looked like a vampire in this scene
Travis, the Anglican priest of the family, is even worse...
When Sybill died I was like "fuck this shit, I'm out - I'm done" and I jumped off the Downton Abbey boat and swam back to shore. Therefore, I have no idea what happened after she died.
How ladylike!
The funny is that The Church of England is really similar to the Roman Catholic Church in terms of ceremonies and stuff like that, especially if it's a "high" church, which I assume would be what Lord Grantham would have been a part of.
The U.S. South has much of this attitude toward Roman Catholics.
However, as a nation, check the Supreme Court, the U.S House of Representatives, and the U.S. Senate--all heavily Roman Catholic vis-a-vis the general population.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_in_the_United_States
Actually the Catholic Church is booming in the Southern US.
Matthew & Tom look better with highlights
The only people to whom Mary was always nice were Carson, Anna, and Tom.
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I didn't understand what did cora mean by her comment about being converted if he wasnt looking or something
She was making a joke that if he wasn't careful Robert might turn into a Roman Catholic by standing next to the priest
Hahahaaa @ 1:40
Dear Lord its true
Baptism, not a christening; the latter is Church of England or Episcopalian.
Yes. But "society" prefers christening. Not to bad. Old English for "Christian-ing". But in both Communions "Baptism" is more correct.
Lots To Learn what about the Orthodox Church?
Being descended from an ancient English family, I'm always curious as to why there's never an Anglican vicar or parish priest paying a call to a socially prominent family such as the residents of Downton Abbey. This would be de rigeur on both sides, with the parish priest being a regular dinner guest...
@@Austin8thGenTexan the local vicar appeared in several episodes
I'm not very knowledgeable on the bible, but I do seem to remember that the story of Jesus's Baptism refers to Jesus being baptised in the river Jordan, rather than christened in the river Jordan.
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Stella Maris well thank you, I guess.
The Orthodox Church would challenge a lot of this. The pope was not involved in either of the first two Ecumenical Councils that established the Nicean Creed. And in that very early proclaimation of the Universal and Apostolic Christian Faith there is no mention whatsoever of popes, a "Chair of Peter", papal supremacy, purgatorial flames, indulgences et al.
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Stella Maris The Orthodox Church is older though
Is your ego now served for giving this bloated and unnecessary lesson?
With him .... photo man error
I wish Sybil didn't leave
lolololololol
Thomas was liberal, but after he got into the family he became conservative so quickly!
Tom Branson was an Irish republican socialist and remained so. He just became more moderate about it.
PS what happened to Sybil ?
She died just after giving birth to her daughter (eclampsia). The only episode I can't watch completely, even now, knowing what is coming. I think it was the biggest shock of the whole show, even compared to Anna's rape, IMO.
It's all Henry VIII's fault that there's such a violent divide in England smh
Lizi Pearl Henry? I think that's a bit of a stretch. It was multiple sources that caused a divide.
Not necessarily. There's always been a Catholic Church and a Protestant Church. Throughout History, we have had both Protestant and Catholic Rulers, Henry just broke away from the Catholic Church.
If you're blaming Henry VIII, why not blame instead the pope who wouldn't let him annul his marriage? Look at it from Henry's side: his wife was already too old to have children, he had no heir, and the memory of the War of the Roses was very much alive - an heir was needed. We take divorce for granted now. He had to form a new church to get that.
Galastel His wife actually had 6 children and one was a boy. It was really him wanting to carry on his dynasty. He also did not like being controlled and the money from ransacking monasteries and abbies came in handy too. He was not a nice man in his later years but then neither were many in power including the religious leaders.
@@rosierennie5867 There was no such thing as Protestants until Martin Luther in the 16th Century. Western Europe was all Catholic until then. (There were Orthodox churches in Eastern Europe, and other kinds of Christians in other places, like in the Middle East.)
Nobody expects the Catholic conversion!
This may sound like an ignorant question, please pardon me, but aren't they Christians, all of them?
Does Tom have a different religion than the Crawley's?
He’s Catholic
Tom, as with most Irish, is Catholic. The rest are Protestants, probably in the Anglican church denomination.
@@theoutlook55 I see, I just looked up the difference between the two. I had no idea Christians were also divided into sects who feel so strongly about each other's. Thank you for explaining.
@@Lillymon you're welcome. The divisions were more serious several decades ago, and it's the reason why Northern Ireland's city of Belfast is divided into Protestant and Catholic sections.
@@theoutlook55 I see. Reminds me of the Sunni and Shia divisions within Muslim societies.
I love this show and I am proud to be a Catholic. I can't help but find these parts a bit offensive though😜
Oh for heavens sake...Its how people felt or were raised to believe in that time period. Story trying to keep true to the era.
It was written by a Catholic
@@pedanticradiator1491Julian Fellowes is Catholic is he?
@@dreamsteddybearsmaster yes he is
The Olde religion.. .Henry the VIII was nothing to boast about.
I’m soft.
Is the Crawley family and servants Protestants????
Yes mostly
@@pedanticradiator1491 ok...tnx
Episcopalians are remarkably similar to catholics.
Religion... sigh
I'm really sorry, I know nothing about religion in Britain. If they didn't want little Sybil to be catholic, what were they all? I thought they were catholic...
Christianity consists of lots of denominations (kind of like sub-divisions of the religion). From my knowledge, anti-catholics could be protestants, evangelists, orthodox christians, quakers, or a form of identifying as irreligious (atheist, agnostic, etc). I think Roman Catholicism and Catholicism in England were / are seen as different also, and the Church of England took a reformed view on their teachings rather than a traditional catholic view.
THe Crawleys are not Catholic. Sybbie's father Tom Branson is Irish and a Catholic.. and he wants his daughter to be brought up Catholic
@@glen7318 Then what are the Crawleys?
@@ituzem8223 the Crawleys are Anglican
They would be Church of England (also known as Anglican) Protestants - the dominant religion in England since the mid-16th century (although there is still a substantial Catholic minority). Tom is a Catholic because he's Irish rather than English.
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