Sybil Helped Gwen Get a Job | Downton Abbey
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- Mr. and Mrs. Harding arrive at Downton, but Anna recognises Mrs. Harding and Greets her as Gwen, the former Downton housemaid who previously left to better herself. Barrow attempts to embarrass Gwen at the dinner table but fails to do so when the family realise that Gwen's success is down to the support of their darling, Sybil.
From Season 6 Episode 4: Lady Shackleton visits Downton, with her nephew, Henry Talbot. Elsewhere, Sargeant Willis asks Baxter to testify against the man whom she was involved with when she stole from her previous employer, she later agrees to do so in order to protect future female victims. Cora persuades Robert and Mary to lease Yew Tree farm to Mt. Mason. Anna is rushed to London to have surgery to save their baby. Mr. and Mrs. Carson return from their honeymoon, ready to move into their cottage.
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Gwen worked there two years as a maid and they didn't recognise her, but Sybil not only knew her but found out about her ambitions and supported her. Her kindness and grace paints everyone else quite badly.
At this point, it was nearly a decade laters; and, Mary did recognise her but couldn't pinpoint the face.
@@JKLoans Moreover, we tend to recognise not only a face, but a way of standing and moving, of holding oneself. In that respect, Gwen has changed quite a bit, especially when speaking to the Crowleys.
It's the same way you can't recognise an actor whom you've seen in one show before because they are acting differently in another show.
@@reinebautistamercado4286 especially Chewbacca
@@JKLoans it wasn’t “decades” it was one decade let’s not exaggerate
The thing left unmentioned in this scene is that while Sybil did help Gwen so much, it was Gwen who took the initiative to get a typewriter and take the shorthand and typing courses in the first place. Maids didn't get much in the way of time off. They worked very long hours doing very physical work. Any maids who took additional courses were extraordinary already.
Yes its not all that likely that a girl working as a maid would manage to escape it for an office job.
@@glen7318 though there was more chance coming up to the war and certainly after the war.
Excellent point.
Well said!!!
Not to mention that they didn't get paid that well either. So she must've saved really hard to have enough for that typewriter! She was amazing! And Sybil was amazing for recognizing that potential! I love this show!
I love how Gwen's husband's reaction was all, you worked here? Cool!
Yes, he was gracious and supportive.
@@emdee7744 didnt her husband know she formerly worked as a maid?
@@FatGouf He knew that she was a House Maid but didn't know that she worked at Downton till this dinner. Like everyone didn't know that Sybbil helped her get where she is today. :)
Get a husband like Mr. Harding
It was in the script?
"Her kindness changed my life". What a powerful message and theme for the episode. Be kind to one another, and you may unknowingly change someone's life for the better.
Sybil was certainly an aristocrat who embodied the essence of "nobility".
Good lesson for Mary
This was one of my favorite scenes of the season! When Gwen said: "her kindness changed my life", I cried.
I love this episode the love they show when listening to they story
A friend in need is a pest, get rid of them?
"When were you a friend of Gwen's?" Direct hit. Good going, Anna.
I love Anna's assertiveness ! The bullies leave her alone.
Like Tom tells Baxter, she's incorruptible.
It's a fair question. The only reason barrow cares about being her "friend" now is because of her success.
Doesnt matter. Anna is snippy little skank when she wants to be and so was Gwen. Why was she so secretive about it?
@@taroman7100 Whoa. Snippy skank? Sounds like you’re projecting, huh?
Sybil truly was the kindest soul of them all. She proved that a character didn't have to mean to be interesting.
@Ruthie Bella I cried about that too. Sybil truly was the best of them all.
@Ruthie Bella Yeah, well, you're a girl; but I'm a guy: what's my excuse?? :)
The one person that everyone in that room loved. Even Thomas.
Matthew’s death was arguably more sad... but yes, her death was so terrible. And William’s! So much death!
Class was not even an issue for Sybil unlike Mary
“I’m one to talk, I married the boss’s daughter” lol
Tom and Gwen getting along in this scene is so adorable!
Tom's smile when Gwen said "It was Lady Sybil" I started to tear up. He was proud and was thinking that's my Sybil.
Tom should introduce Gwen to Sybbie.
I saw that, as well. What a beautiful way for Gwen to honor Lady Sybil, by telling the family of their daughter's kindness to her. Sybil truly gave Gwen her chance to fly and I'm sure she would be very proud of how Gwen turned out. She truly was the best of the Crawley daughters.
The irony being of course being that Rose Leslie who played Gwen is the only member of the cast who actually does come from a noble family.
And her mother's second and third names are Mary and Sybil
* officially *
Really?
@@sampuatisamuel9785 Yep, raised in a castle, her father is Clan Chieftain her great grandfather was descended from Charles II and another ancestor was 3rd Earl of Verulam
@@Sylvander1911 really cool
“Her kindness changed me life” Sybil been dead for years and still makes the rest of them look like snobby trash
Trash is going a bit far.
@@jaxcoss5790 no, trash is fairly accurate. they did nice things upon occassion for the servants but nothing to the level of what sybil did
@@jameslyon2338 if I do not grace them to finding an exact job they wish, I wouldn't call myself trash, of course one can not name them-self for that would be more favoring, usually others must decide on your personality and actions before coming to an understanding (much like appointing a race toward yourself were you are in the race, and manipulating it to make yourself win but a little toned down). You should see other maiden ladies and gentlemen to their culinary and staff, butler, and crop menders, they are horrid and absolutely dreadful to them, if you wish to call someone trash I'd presume it to be them.
They are snobby trash and Tom never fit in he was just tolerated.
@@jaxcoss5790 one of my favorite scenes was the servant’s ball.
A little dancing never hurt anyone. 🙂💃🕺🎶
The parallels between this scene and Mary’s spilling Edith’s secret to Bertie are incredible. Right down to the exact same way they both try to defend their bad actions, with Barrow saying “I couldn’t have known she was planning to lie her way through” and Mary saying “How was I to know”. Plus they were both motivated by jealousy to try and ruin the other person’s happiness. No wonder Mary liked Barrow, they were both capable of the same cruelty.
Excellent observation.
I always felt like they had a lot in common. They were both pretty bitchy until you threatened their own. For example, Mary would do anything for Anna, Barrow would do anything for Andrew. Both would do anything for the children. They're bitchy and petty but protective and powerful at the same time.
very perceptive, thank you!
Tom knew all along...his facial expressions say everything.
If memory serves, he was part of the pact.
Ya. He was the one who answered the call. Then he told Gwen and Sybil. The 3 of them hugged each other
He was part of their pact. There is a lovely scene when they are having a garden party and Tom answers the phone and takes the message that she got the job and They pick gwen up and hug her.
It shows how special Sybil was that we felt her presence many times in the remaining three seasons.
@@rebeccacrisp888 - And then Mrs Hughes gave Tom a stern warning.
I love the look of pride and love on Tom's face when hearing about his Sybil! You can tell he was always going to love her!
Barrow is a great antagonist because he isn't simply evil; he's interesting and devious. He tries to burn his way to the top, but importantly, he isn't boring about it.
I read a theory somewhere that suggests he instigates out of boredom rather than malice.
@@georgeprchal3924 It's reasonably obvious that he is vengeful and unethical. He had no ill-will when he locked a dog in a shed and then pretended that the dog was missing, and then lied about having found the dog? Come on. His goals were deception and manipulation of innocent people; is that not malice?
@@tobynsaunders I didn't come up with it. I read it somewhere.
@@georgeprchal3924 Oh ok. You read it somewhere. Someone somewhere wrote something, and then you read it. I see.
@@tobynsaunders Fuck off toby.
That's for your answer to George.
Mrs Patmore to Daisy: ‘I wonder if Karl Marx might finish the liver pate!’ 😂
I misheard it 'car marks', and couldn't get it, and then i saw ur comment.
PreciousNonhlanhla Ndlovu Ohhhh. That’s the best line!
I have to assume Karl Marx was the dog or cat?
@@iowagreen8932 Daisy was basically making an assumption about how upper class of the house don't remember the lower class workers who worked for them for years. Mrs. Patmore made the snide remark to tell her being Marxist won't help with her job.
@@merrybrandybuck9 I see that after watching another couple of times lol; British humor is sometimes hard to get!
Sybil was the person that saw everything different, and started to make her family learn that things must change
Yes. She was the first one to see how the world was changing and not be afraid of it. And she didn't see anything at all wrong with Gwen wanting more from life, whereas some of the family seemed to find it offensive that Gwen didn't want to spend years working as their servant.
This scene reminds me the difference between Sybil and Mary.. Mary the snob says "you had time to tell us you were a maid" but Sybil looked at Gwen more than a maid, but someone who wanted to escape.. Mary didn't see her cos Gwen was just a maid, but Sybil saw everyone and accepted everyone around her .
@You stole my burrito, Charlie So you know true aristocrats then?
Well I probably would have said the same thing but in a different way. I probably would have said “ you could have said something about it”
Excellent summary Goo 👏
She acknowledged her pettiness here in another scene. She even admits that Sybil was a kinder person than her.
Sydni Nelson Here is difference between the sisters. Mary acknowledges her bad behaviour and try’s to fix it somehow. Sybil didn’t do anything bad. She was innocent. Edith does something wrong and blames everyone else and then plays the victim card. And then she pretends like she never did anything.
The smile on Tom's face as she mentioned Sybil is just too precious...
Even after all those years, Mary still called Sybil “Darling” and it’s so cute to me. I loved their relationship. Even though she and Edith didn’t get along, one thing everyone knows for sure is that Mary loved her baby sister.
She loves Edith too. However, they are better living in separate houses.
@@peachygal4153 😂😂😂
Mary & Sybil got along quite well... Mary & Edith on the other hand😬
Thomas and O'Brien ran around trying to ruin everybody's life and now he wonders why Gwen won't say hello to him? I wouldn't either! I'd kick him in the shins as I came in the door!
Remember when O'Brien pulled out Gwen's typewriter to expose her.
@@creightonharris-dorsey9717 Remember when Bates referred to “Her Ladyship’s soap” to expose O’Brien?
I'd aim higher than his shins.
@@creightonharris-dorsey9717 I can tolerate a lot from O Brien.. but killing Cora’s baby was it for me.. Evil C..T
@@gaynorpatterson2915 let's not forget though she immediately went to fix it realising how horrendous it was but sadly Cora had already stepped out of the bath before she had chance to go back. And then O'brien basically tried to do everything for Cora out of guilt. Despite how wicked what she did was, she never got over it. I respected that the show didn't just pretend it never happened. O'brien actions with the soap, literally shaped her entire character for the rest of the time she was in the show.
I'm sorry but this scene is causing me to shed tears. The way Gwen turned a humiliating moment into a way to praise someone who was kind to her is just beautiful.
And Mary is, of course, a bitch.
I agree. I don't know how I would have handled that moment but I hope it is just as gracious as Gwen...Just be real and let the chips fall as they may. And yes, Mary can be an arse.
The same here
The best way to clap back a naysayer is with graciousness.
Mary could've been better here, but at least she took Sybil's lesson to heart and pushed for giving Mr. Mason the farm later in the episode.
And in a later scene they visit the servants hall where Lord Grantham takes Barrow to one side and tears him off a strip for trying to humiliate Gwen
I loved seeing Cora's reaction to Gwen talking about Sybil, she looked so proud of her. I love how even though none of the actresses that played the daughters were actually Cora's real life daughters, yet Sybil looked the most similar to Cora.
Isobel: So you were a secretary?
Gwen: Oh yes... except for those few years where I lived beyond the Wall with the widlings.
😂😂
OMG I didn't recognise her until I saw this post
Meaning every one downstairs has her pity.
‘You know nothing, Jon Snow!”
@@stonemarten1400 If Kit didn't hate Downton Abbey I would have said that they should have gotten him to play Gwen's husband as a joke (Kit has said he doesn't like glorifying the rich... which is ironic because Gwen's actress, his wife, comes from a noble family. They are literally Tom and Sybil!)
I had an aunt like Sybil. Her kindness and generosity gave me the oppty to be financially successful. As Gwen thanked Sybil's effort, I sure did cry. Maybe that's why Sybil will ALWAYS be my all-time, #1 favorite DA character.
loveloses mine as well. 😌
Is your aunt still alive did you thank her?
@@boldandcourageous4176 No. I lost her last year on May 18th. Worst day of my existence. My life will never be the same again.
@@boldandcourageous4176 But I thanked her profusely my whole life. We were the best of friends. I miss her, so much. She was like a second mother to me.
@@latinguy67 Sounds like a lovely person always in your heart
Thomas Barrow in a nutshell: i will go looking for trouble, and if i can't find it i will create it
is it odd that I feel like toasting to Sybil right now?
“Her kindness changed my life”. If only all of us can be remembered that way.
I love how this scene involves the audience! We were all there years before when Sybil helped Gwen. We could all reminisce when she told the story. It wasn’t just a storyline introduced, it really happened and we saw it! What a great scene to show Gwen succeeded.
Wish they had done more of Gwen’s story than Ethel’s!!
Agree! That would have been lovely to see!
Ikr! Ambitious woman who knew her priorities yet didn't compromise on morals- bring it on
Gwen had to leave Downton to go to Westeros
@@vijaythasathyanarayanan2486 Ethel did what she did so she could feed her child. Probably not the best choice but she was a decent woman nonetheless. Which is why Mrs. Padmore, the dowager and Mrs. Crawley all helped her to lift herself up.
I think it would have been good to have followed both stories. A morality play of sorts.
One of the moving things here, towards the end, is that while Gwen i telling the story of her relationship with Sybil , and everyone is remembering what a lovely person she was, Barrow is standing looking both ashamed and deeply unhappy.
Sybil was not just kind to Gwen. She had worked with Thomas as an equal in every way. They had seen men with terrible injuries. They had supported a man who suicided. They had nursed Matthew Crawley, when he could not even put himself on the bed pan.
Sybil was, for a time, his dearest friend.
Gwen didn't say anything at first b/c she was caught off guard. It's called being in the fight-flight-freeze response of the nervous system. She wasn't hiding who she was, she was just trying to survive the whole event. She did very well, indeed, too.Gracious and smart.
Literally my favorite character comeback ever. Loved Gwen coming back and reminding us how Sybil was the best member of the Crawley family. PERIOD.
P.S. Thank you for the upload. This channel is awesome.❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Amanda Johnson ugh, same. and the look on all their faces when Gwen started talking about her. all reminded of her kindness and generosity of spirit.
Sybil born into wealth wasn't a snob to have nobility.
But we loved Matthew, too! Matthew had similarly high morals, which we all can appreciate.
I love seeing these scenes. This is also my favorite "come back " scene. A chance to relive a favorite Downton Moment.
@wings of a butterfly Hans Hölzel was the coolest man of all time, yet he was also kind; I do not understand your point.
One of my favorite scenes. Her husband's reaction at finding out she worked at Downton was priceless. He's so supportive of her.
Got goosebumps when I first saw this scene. Because Gwen literally took all of us back years to reminisce something real, something that we saw happened, I was nodding the entire time yes yes, none of the family knew it but I knew. That’s when you know Sybil was such a great character, shes been gone for years but her kindness continues to hit you all the time.
One thing I love about this seen is the growth it shows in Tom. Losing anyone is hard. Grief is complex. The fact he remembers her with happiness instead of frustration shows how much he is willing to change for her.
One of the many things that gets me about this scene is how, when Gwen mentions about "hearing the news" of Sybil's passing, all of the family sort of look down, and their faces drop. Being reminded that all they have of her now is memories, however wonderful they may be, pains them even after so many years.
Terrific acting from everybody.
Hate that Thomas ratted her out that she used to be a housemaid in front of the family.
Barrow never appreciated anything. And Mary was a twat until Sybil was remembered for her kindness. This is one of greatest full series of scenes in the entire show when compared with Gwen's initial struggle to change her life.
But his plan backfired nicely! Pure joy!
@lora 1111 Did I miss something? in what season and episode they got rid of Ms Patmore? She's one of the nicest and funny in the kitchen and when anyone downstair interacts with Sybie?
@@houseoftyrell1544
I think they meant that nasty Nanny (Nanny West, or something like that), not Mrs. Pattmore.
@John Doe Yes, He wanted to embarrass the daylights out of Gwen, but it turned out differently and when he was thanked for reminding in of Sybil that really stuckin his throat.
It’s 2021, and I still cry when Gwen says “I’ll never forget her. Her kindness changed my life.” I just loved this and other callbacks to early DA during the final season. ♥️
the final season is my favourite - everything just comes full circle and the beauty of it is so moving, all the emotions are just portrayed beautifully and everything is tied up beautifully - so many seasons broke me, the final scene and many others, I was in absolute bits
darling Sybil, indeed (cries)
I loved that story line between Sybil and Gwen.
Loved Gwen's triumphant return. If only the clip had included the part with Lord Grantham lecturing Barrow on loyalty! Oh dear. Does that make me a choosy beggar?
Edit to ask: Where did Carson and Mrs. Hughes go on their honeymoon? I realize that's why the odious Barrow was standing in as butler.
Der Glückliche They went to Scarborough. Lady Mary was talking about how they could have had a better honeymoon.
@@kushalaluru9552 Thanks! Had to look it up on a map.
Odious?? How dare you.
I love the pride in Tom's eyes the minute Gwen mentions Sybil ❤️
I love Gwen’s delivery in this scene. You can sense no hostility or superiority from her tone. And her greeting of Anna and Tom show that she really wasn’t hiding anything.
Also liked Mary’s portrayal here, she was snide at first but instantly softened at the mention of Sybil. (Mary being Mary lol)
I like that she was upset not at Gwen rising from service to dining at their table, but at the fact that she tried to hide it. And best of all I like Tom's reactions when Gwen talks about Sybil.
Funny, that's not how I read it.
Moments like these are why we love Downton
Mary.... she can get on my nerves sometimes. No need for that attitude towards Gwen.
She looks down on anyone who wasn't born an aristocrat. And of course if there's a chance to be mean, she'll take it. Soon as she learnt Gwen used to be a housemaid, her while attitude changed.
@@inayatahmed5828 and it took Sybil to show her how to be humble. Even after all those years gone, Sybil still the best.
She was being especially nasty at this point in the series. It was tough to watch sometimes.
@@yankeeangel26 Yes but she could be self-aware too. Gwen's story made her realize how nasty she was being.
@@pazyamor2292 yes I agree and she could be incredibly kind too like to Anna x
Sibil truly was one of the sweetest people on this show!💙💙💙
The funniest thing is that out of all the people in that room, in real life she is the only aristocrat..... Clearly shows her skills as an actor
Oh Barrow, dear... I feel you, but Gwen didn't really deserve that.
And Sybil's bravery and kindness, surviving even after her death 💗
5:59 and 6:17 ... those expressions on Tom’s face! It’s both heartwarming and heartbreaking at the same time ❤️
When Gwen first mentioned Sybil his reaction said it all. It was pure love. His love for Sybil was so pure that it changed his life. And helped him grow. That first look said it all, he was thinking about how much she would love to be here
When Gwen first mentioned Sybil his reaction said it all. It was pure love. His love for Sybil was so pure that it changed his life. And helped him grow. That first look said it all, he was thinking about how much she would love to be here
I love this moment in the show. I think Jessica Brown Findlay was right in saying Sybil’s story was done, and it wouldn’t have been good to prolong it unnecessarily. But we were all still grieving with the family when she died, and it’s nice to have these little moments sprinkled in throughout the rest of the show
The smiles and look on Tom face from the stories - reminds him of his happy days and so proud of his wife.
Sybil told Robert, "Gwen is in the library being interviewed" and he complained he couldn't use the library because of a housemaid. Robert knew who Gwen was and her position in the household so it's incorrect to say no one spoke to or cared about her for two years. He just probably didn't put it together that Mrs. Harding was Gwen.
They had so many servants over the years, he forgot some of their names. I'm surprised Cora didn't recognize Gwen, she was the kind soul in the family who had a personal bond with everyone around her. Sybil got it from her mom, after all
@@fortheloveofcats2462 I agree about Cora. This is one of my favorite scenes in the show, a lovely tribute to Sybil.
Also, when Pamuk was staying at Downton the whole family were talking about Gwen during dinner. I don't see why the Crawleys should be expected to remember a maid (who now has a completely different kind of job and a different last name) who only worked there for two years. In addition, Gwen worked at Downton before the war, before it became a convalescent home. So a lot of people had been in and out of that house since she was last there.
yes but at that period in time before the war the house was doing much better financially and there were dozens of housemaids and kitchen maids, he couldn't have told them apart.
Gwen was such a lovely character, she was sweet and had a real desire to be better. And Lady Sybil was an angel to her. Beautiful work!
Literally my favourite scene
lotrgirl3791 me too
I love how even snobby Mary who had just been miffed at Gwen for not revealing her role with them "you had every opportunity"...is hanging on every word of Gwen's story about Sybil helping her. And I always loved Edith's blunt ways sometimes "You worked here for 2 years and we never spoke to you, we're the ones in the wrong..."
I love this moment because it resonates with all the storylines at this moment. Tom just got back from Boston with Sybbie because this house where he knew Sybil is his home. Robert has to take a decision about giving Yew Tree Farm to Mr Mason or not and Cora will ask him what Sybil would want them to do. Mary got her brother-in-law back, the former chauffeur that only Sybil was open-minded enough to love despite the difference in social rank, and after her death Mary accepted him as a brother and was better person thanks to him and the memory of their late Sybil. Edith is trying to find her place at her magazine and at Downton, and seeing Gwen's story she finally decides to take a woman editor.
Lady Edith's face when Gwen says she'll never forget Sybil, is heart-breaking. So truthfully captures the pain in that moment.
I love the fact that Thomas had to sit and listen as Gwen explained how Sybil was the one who helped her and how the family treated Gwen very nicely and were ashamed that they did not know her after working for 2 years.
Thomas must have been burning up inside knowing that he failed to ruin her lunch.
Thomas was a evil person, but in the last seasons they did show that deep inside he was a very scared person who was not happy being his self and was full of jealousy for anyone who made it out of service.
Even though I hated Thomas I have to admit his part made the show very interesting.
One of the best scenes of the show
Branson was in on getting her the job, gwen, him and sybil are my fav trio
Sybil is the kind of person we should all aspire to be. The kind of person who’s kindnesses are remembered long after they are gone.
Love the line, All we were taught was French, prejudice and dance steps.
One of the best scene of Downton !!! I love how everyone was surprised to hear about Sybil helping Gwen except for Tom who just recognized his wife in the story 💜
6:57 you could tell that Hugh Bonneville had real emotions for Mary, Edith, Sybil and Branson in real life as he really shed tears at their weddings, this scene, and especially when Branson left during the Christmas episode for Boston. Hugh Bonneville is really choked up!
Mary's her usual scathing self until she hears of Sybil's involvement, then you can practically see the claws retract
Haha Mary's face watching Tom and Gwen talk!! Love Michelle Dockery's acting!!
I often come and watch this clip to remind myself to be kind. It was so moving that Gwen reminisced Sybil’s kindness and turned the an awkward situation to be so positive.
Knowing that Rose Leslie's family would gladly be dining with the Crawleys, it's so weird to hear her Gwen voice, especially in this scene.
I was about to ask who is the actress! I thought it was Jessie Buckley
Yes, she and Kit Harrington's families are both on the same level as the Crawleys. How weird is it that she played a character in service, when her family employed hundreds like her character throughout history!
My favourite part of this is Tom’s face hearing how Sybil helped
I loved this story line. So cool how they had Gwen come back and share Sybil’s influences on her story 👍
I'd like to think that Thomas was also happy to hear the story about Sybil as well
Tom's expressions show such feeling
Lady Rose, an aristocrat, when back from America, she went immediately downstairs to greet and hug the staff. I was shocked and very dissapointed to see that Gwen didn't even acknowledge Thomas or hug Anna, whom she said she considered a sister.
I'm thinking that Gwen didn't say anything to Thomas because she hadn't know until right before she arrived at Downton that she would be there at all, didn't have a chance to prepare and didn't know who would be at the door. Too there was the class system and the more formal protocol of the day along with little time to talk with Anna.
I think thats the entire point of the class system. Rose is an aristocrat and is thus able to do as she pleases. Her actions are simply looked at as eccentric or at worst some societal faux pas. On the other hand if Gwen was to do that, she would not only piss off her benefactor Lady Painswick and also cheese off the Crawleys. Of course she doesn't know that the Crawleys are actually progressive and wouldn't mind her breaking societal norms.
@@andrewbrendan1579 1) She didn't keep in touch with her "sister" to know that Anna still worked in Downtown Abbey? 2) She would have understood miles away that thay were approaching that particular house.
@@raghavsagar6362 While I agree with you, I still don't see why Gwen didn't even say hello to Thomas, nor give a kiss in the cheek to Anna, they were after all alone, noone else was there.
@@msinvincible2000 you're right, but she was nervous coming back to a home where she used to work. So, I can imagine her being unsure of how to act, her colleague is now taking her coat.
That look that Mary gives Gwen at 6:26 as she listens to the story of how her dear sister changed Gwen's life . . . Wonderful!
What is missing from this video is Lord Granthem's rebuke of Barrow for "trying to catch Gwen out."
So I can somewhat understand Barrow's nastiness to Gwen, born out of his jealousy. But what reason has Mary got for being nasty to Gwen? Soon as she heard that Gwen used to be a housemaid she immediately adopted a condescending manner. Even Edith and Cora said they were at fault for not recognising her but Mary is simply being nasty to someone who already feels very uncomfortable. She always looks down on anyone she considers beneath her.
Yes. That was the whole point of the scene. It brings attention to the differences between Mary and Sybil's personalities. AND Mary realizes it at the end of the scene - how much of a better person Sybil is.. This scene is all about Mary.
She thought she was being played by Gwen who didn't bring up that she used to work there. Also it's just typical Mary.
What I also find interesting is that Mary was the only one who actually did recognise Gwen’s face, though she couldn’t place how. Mary is so delightfully layered. She doesn’t look down on those in service- look at how she treats Anna. But she immediately defaults to condescension and nastiness when she feels wrong footed or threatened in anyway.
I wonder if Mary took some offense at Gwen's not bringing it up voluntarily, that maybe she thought Gwen was ashamed of having worked there.
@@RLviddy more like Mary was offended that Gwen dared to make a better life for herself coz according to Queen Mary, working as a servant at Downton is the ideal life and only a fool would want to leave a position of such honor and privilege.
I know exactly how they felt,hearing something about Lady Sybil. My Dad died 41 years ago and I am still incredibly touched,when someone will talk about him,that someone remembers him.I found this scene very moving.
Tom’s face the whole time Gwen was talking about how Sybil helped her 🥺🥺😭😭
What a beautiful way for Gwen to honor Lady Sybil, by telling the family of their daughter's kindness to her. Sybil truly gave Gwen her chance to fly and I'm sure she would be very proud of how Gwen turned out. She truly was the best of the Crawley daughters.
And yet another validation of the quality of this ensemble production....We can't count the number of times we've binged this whole series...but it never gets old..
So funny how Thomas’ plan completely backfired on him and actually benefited Rose.
This scene always makes me tear up! The way she speaks about Sybil and what she did for her and Tom's reaction!
It’s amazing how Gwen had the strength to even come in. I can admit that had I been in her place, I’d have convinced the husband to drop me someplace outside and come back for me when the luncheon was over.
But, I beg you, WHY for heaven's sake?! Gwen didn't have anything to hide: She had fought on her own merits to push up her social position and she succeeded, that's all. And those aristocrats just had to take that for which it was, because times had to be changed, quite simply!
Oh, I LOVE this clip! I only regret the old scarecrow Violet wasn't there: That would have been marvellous!
When Sybil died and Mary said "she was the only person in the world who thought you and I were good people" that hit different.
I love these rare moments when Thomas tries to do something from a place of bitterness but ends up recieving gratitude for it. He made up what turned out to be a half-lie about Nanny West and neglecting the children to try and get her fired, and so Cora found out she actually deserved to be fired.
He received a tongue lashing not gratitude. Logical . But i laughed when Carson was called kind in the season he was at his worst and saying people were loyal to him when every one of his underlings left or planned to
I love this episode!
Sybil was still present even when she died. I love their friendship ❤
Gwen in her real life as Rose Leslie is indeed coming from a very noble family🥰
I went back and watched the episode in which Sybil helped out Gwen with that secretary job interview. It was so well done!
I like the way the telephone is prominently in the shot where Gwen arrives at the house.
Great catch!
"I wonder if Karl Marx might finish the Liver Pate!!"
I'm dead xD xD
I love it when barrow tries to do something devious and it goes wrong for him
Quality story Gwen got! It’s always nice to see someone succeed with a helping hand!
Best scene in the series. It connects and summarizes so many relations and feelings. But a later moment belongs to it, with Grantham and Barrow.
This is one of the most touching scenes in all the Episodes of "Downton Abbey", and there are many. Sybil was the kindest, most gentle, soul written into the entire Series. This scene brought me to tears just thinking of Sybil's generous spirit.
After these years, this scene still bring me tears
one of my favorite moments of the show!
Gwen rises in the world, but still used lower class "me" instead of "my". As in "That's how I got me first job in business." Well, I reckon' we bring that ole' stuff with us when we move along, I reckon'. Ain't no sense in puttin' on airs, if'n you knows what I mean.
She is Scottish as well I think. So its kinda their thing
She’s not an educated woman. She said so herself. She’s not going to learn a completely new way of speaking in just a few years.
MadAboutSaffron Red she probably has to code switch at work. Back then, speaking like that would unlikely land you a job as a secretary.
@@cynthiachengmintz672 , I agree. And I do think it possible. When I first went to work in downtown Chicago, 1980, after graduating HS, I met a lot of Black people, who would speak in a business-like English when doing business. But when they sat together in the lunch room. Do you remember that seen from the movie Airplane?
@@donaldbadowski290 I've never seen the movie. I didn't know what code switching was until I was in my 30s. I learned Cantonese first, but my default/main language is English and I speak English with family. I'm unsure if I code switch at all. I am not 100% with Hong Kong/Cantonese culture, often to the point that those FROM HK can tell I'm not "from there."
Tom's expression when talking about Sybil ❤️❤️😭😭😭
I've watched this clip so many times and I still get teary-eyed!
I was so glad we got to see Gwen again. And with everything she ever wanted