Scott McCord as Victor is becoming my favourite performance in the show! He's absolutely smashing it at the moment. What did you think of this episode? Let me know your thoughts in the comments!
Another thing is the Creatures are always portrayed as walker as much as I can remember. I don't think I have ever seen creatures run like how smiley ran towards Miranda in the end of this episode.
I recall they mentioned in s1 they use to run and howl before the town got hold of the talismans. Then they considered it a game as the town no longer hid but would always be in the houses at night. So the monsters always knew where the towns ppl would end up therefore no need to chase them at speed.
@@SlayerSage once they turn into looking as a monster their abilities seem to change such as getting stronger while holding Boyd in place. Also the first episode Granny monster turned and attacked quickly.
The lady who was with Fatima was trying to silence her knowing that people were in the cellar and didn't want her to alert them because it needs her to give birth
@@annemaried.8055 Nah fam that thing is evil, she is using the black man, to trap that her and, and that that thing getting birth to the babby. And i think the baby is that evil thing true form
I feel like if it had good intentions it wouldn't need to prevent her from being with her husband or loved ones nor need to consume blood. @@annemaried.8055
I feel like the only way to break the cycle is for people to actually communicate and work together rather than keep secrets and solve everything on their own
i had the same idea.. why do they all feel like they have to do everything on their own? If they were actually working together instead of keeping secrets they would make so much progress.
@@mcrn_Rocinante There would be no television series if all the characters talked about the hallucinations and stuff that makes no sense. This place defies physics as we know it.
That’s the biggest problem for me with these town folks. It’s like have a weekly meeting and sharing dreams, visions and theories. They could have came up with something and maybe if they did this the relationship with Victor and the town’s folks could have been different from the jump.
The issue I have with the show is that it's appears the writers are building up the story arc without having a concrete plan for the characters - they did not start the show with a specific ending in mind, only a loose idea of potential climaxes based upon audience reception.
No they did. This is what they changed about lost because people were mad about lost bc the writers were making stuff up as they went but some actors wouldn’t sign to be on from unless they had it figured out from the beginning
@@asant90 they actually aren’t. They’ve addressed it multiple times. If you get get over answers leading to more questions than you simply just don’t understand a mystery show. Especially a good one at that
The town is definitely breaking Boyd, if slowly. For example, the scene when he yells at the Nurse monster who taunted him. That was out of character for him, and it was reminiscent of the scene when Fatima broke and started yelling at a monster.
Captain obvious over here😂... Its trying but I think the people sticking together will stop it .. once him and Scarface have a conversation and he forgives Boyd
😮 What if Boyd's wife, Abby, was right! When she shot those people saying that's the only way to escape? Miranda perishes and reincarnated in the normal world as Tabitha, essentially, she escaped FROM ans was born anew. Does this happen to everyone who perishes there, you just get reborn again in the normal world?
@rachelvoiles9699 If someone escapes from prison and is later on caught, we still acknowledge they escaped despite being caught. Same with Miranda and Tabitha, her soul escaped, she got new parents, made friends, grew up, started a family, a career etc away from FROM for around 40 years. Yes, FROM caught her again, but it doesn't erase the life she lived freely in the normal world.
I believe that Tabitha is Eloise and her memory is returning, I believe that she went through the tree when she was younger after possibly following her Mom and witnessing what happened I believe that she was trying to hide after seeing her Mom killed and she hid in a faraway tree and was able to escape only to return to complete what others had started, Victor never mentioned finding his sister dead, just my theory
Except Tabitha is a solid 10yrs younger than Victor, has an accent, has a mother, and neither Henry nor Victor recognized her but recognized each other immediately Hell, Henry recognized Miranda's scarf in the dark after mere seconds... but can't recognize his daughter?
WHY. Why won't the writers just let Viktor's father tell Jade about the stupid doll? Why are the making the two characters interact, if not for this reason? Just let him mention Jasper to Jade already. But no, instead in the last episode they make him mention Vicktor trying to talk to A PIECE OF WOOD. SRSLY? JUST LET HIM SAY THE PRECISE FUCKING WORDS ALREADY.
and that would advance the story how? it wouldn't. Ex. Henry: my son, who dont understand has been talking to a wooden puppet named jasper. Jade: wow that's crazy! I had a vision of a man with a puppet... (end scene)
@@msto1987 Except that then Jade might decide to see the doll for himself and something happens. After all the times he has seen the doll, I would like to think that it keeps showing up for a reason. Otherwise, why keep showing it to Jade? To waste screentime? If this is not the objective of the constant interactions between them, then I don't know what is. The message of "there is nothing wrong with your son and you should treat him differently" could have been given in one scene. If I end up being wrong and the doll serves no purpose, then fine. But if it does, then fuck the writers for making us wait for so long.
@johnzero6588 oh now you want to be a writer on the show... if this happens then this happens... this is called fan fiction and it is pathetic. Just let the writers tell the story they want to tell how they want to tell it. If you don't like it don't watch.
@@msto1987 Braindead take. It is completely possible to like a show and criticize parts of it at the same time. Writers will, of course, keep doing whatever they want. Doesn't mean their decisions can not be questioned. We already have so many plot points. If the interactions between Jade and Vikctor's father are solely for the sake of character development and not other reason, then, imo, the show does not really need as much of them as we were shown. There are many other things the screentime instead could be used for.
@@AF564 They always have to be psychopaths just cause they don't allign EXACTLY with your ideas of right and wrong, he thinks he's doing something right, it's enough to not label him a psycho. But if they mess up even a little, then they are a psychopath huh? You're crazy
I don't think Elgin is diabolical... He already showed precognitive ability and Scarface reminded us of this last episode. Don't be surprised if eligin really has a special ability and is helping the situation... Keeping her fed and away from people is the safest thing right now, considering the alternative is her probably fighting it and killing more people
I can’t help but believe that Boyd doesn’t actually have Parkinson. We know that this place has knowledge of their lives out in the real world and this could just be a way of the town to further try to break Boyd. When he’s telling Kenny (i think) that he has Parkinson and that his clock is ticking he mentions that his dad got it around the same age Boyd is now. But he also says that it’s not supposed to be hereditary. Just like Fatima wasn’t supposed to be able to have a child, Boyds’ Parkinson could be something that the town uses to mess with their minds.
I thought the worms cured his parkinson by keeping the host alive no matter what (martin) but now I'm thinking your right its just the town messing with his confidence
This series is just breaking us, the viewers. We are the real victims🚮. The producers are capitalizing on our confusion/Curiosity. This season will also just end like the other two, with many unanswered questions.💔
Argument Tabitha isn't Eloise: Tabitha's actress is 10 full years younger than Victor's actor, and is an entirely different nationality. Tabitha has a Spanish accent and even calls her mother in the real world and they speak spanish to each other (a very specific scene as if to confirm that Tabitha is not related to any missing woman from the Town). Not to mention that she is the first person from Henry's family that Henry sees in 40 years and he doesn't recognize her? He holds her at gunpoint? But he recognizes Victor's lunchbox? He notices Miranda's scarf? Argument Tabitha is Eloise: They are both women I dunno about you guys, but I know which I am more convinced by.
Tabitha is Eloise. Tabitha had nightmares about Fromville as a kid. Miranda never experienced Fromville as a kid but Eloise did. Tabitha's reaction at the end of the episode was her realizing that those nightmares were actually her in Fromville as a kid(Eloise). The scene of Miranda getting killed was shot as the audience's POV of what Tabitha witnessed which was her mother getting killed. It wasn't Miranda's or Eloise's POV. The reincarnation theory makes no sense.
@@downtoearthproductionsTabitha isn't having memories of Frimville as a child, she has memories of nightmares she had as a child. Nightmares she had because she is the reincarnation, or next cyclical incarnation, of whatever archetype or person Miranda also was as Miranda similarly had these visions of her previous experiences. Unless you want to try and gin up some contrivance that Miranda was secretly from the Town as well? Oh yeah, and you also have to find some.way to dismiss all those indicators that she isn't Eloise*.
You don’t understand answers are always going to lead to more questions until you get the whole complete answer of what this show is. And there’s planning to be 5 seasons so there’s going to be more question until then
@ no I totally understand that … but for an episode titled revelations I’m definitely meant to leave with more answers than questions and this episode and season hasn’t done that whatsoever
this is absolutely off topic but i honestly think Jim isn't gonna make it through next ep, he is slowly tying up loose ends with his family and his character isnt in any major plot lines. i feel that hes gonna take Julie for a final car ride then he might sacrifice himself or something may happen. Any thoughts on this?
Well i think he will survive, he is just doing what henry told him to do, is to understand his family. They’re just showing how easy it is to stay happy if we just understand each other. I dont see any major death in this season after tilly
I don't think everyone is a reincarnation. It seems like some people just get unlucky and get dragged along for the ride with reincarnated individuals. Jim obviously can't be Henry and Ethan can't be Victor even if their roles are similar. Most of the bust people serve no purpose.
@@EternalFount exactly. Boyd's wife had memories of the place as a child. Is this Boyd's first time? Is that why they seem more interested in him? Is it why he was able to find the talismans and to lead and inspire hope in the people? The guy who came with Jade, why did he need to die immediately?
Starting to think all those apparitions Jade is seeing are echoes of previous lives. The recurring sitting position, head turn and scream (boulder guy, Jasper, Christopher) feels like a future reveal.
he was both a puppet and a puppeteer, in a past life, simultaneously? ran out of plausible evidence after 2 lol... that's how weak this theory is, even if true, your "facts" lack Facts
@bleep6821 confirmed? I must have missed that confirmation...where was it confirmed? Oh yeah...it wasnt. But I was more referring to your jade nonsenses
@@msto1987 you’re obviously just clueless lol. I wasnt even the one talking about jade, that was the other guy. But i dont think its nonsense, this show is filled with mysteries that we can only theorize to make sense of whats going on. Jade being a reincarnation of christopher is completely possible. But if you actually think the ending scene to episode 9 isnt obviously revealing to us that Tabitha is Miranda reincarnated, then you’re seriously cooked my man
@@bleep6821 You don't have to theorize your theories are going to be wrong. You can sit back and watch this show. Im, enjoy what the writers lay out for you.They will give you answers when they want to give you answers, and if you don't like that, then this is not the show for you
Tabitha being Mirandas reincarnation can be the reason Thomas died. As Tabitha just like Miranda was supposed to have 2 children. And after Thomas's death maybe he's stuck here too and the voice Jim heard is actually Thomas.
Elgin wasnt acting like a madman. He thinks he is doing the right think and pairing up helps him to avoid searching anywhere near the cellar where Tabitha is residing
1. The kimono lady was covering Fatima’s mouth to keep her quiet because Victor was standing inside the cellar, then Tabitha came in behind him. 2. The BIW clearly stated that he tried transparency with Christopher before, but seeing how that turned out the people of the town will have to figure it out for themselves this time. I don’t think the BIW enjoys the suffering.
Hmmm... this one is interesting. It's been found/said that it means "remember" in some other language. But this seems interestingly fun as ppl keep remembering Julie amd we've seen her time travel.
I like this idea!!!! Especially since she gives stories to Ethan all the time and even uses the stories as hope for herself to cross the threshold. Nice one
I hope that creature that taunted Boyd wasn’t foreshadowing his future. If Boyd’s fate is to ring the bell in an empty town as the final resident only to decide to end it all then ppl gonna skin the writers.
I think the tree definitely need to te cut down to stop the game, maybe without the tree they can't keep bringing people into the town and the cycle ends, I think that it is at least a sacrificial way of stopping everything
What if the baby is connected to the boy in white. Fatimas stomach grew the same episode, the boy in white has started to look older. And with the reincarnation theory if that is true then how is victor and Ethan alive at the same time …. Isn’t reincarnation about having the same soul and different body? I do think there is some reincarnation going on but the logistics just don’t make sense
The fact that the Ankooee girl was telling Tabitha were to go ( i think is good side)..and then the Kimono lady trying to shush Fatima ... huh...I think she's bad
The reincarnated theory doesn't seem legit because it doesn't explain how Tabitha had nightmares about Fromville as a kid when Miranda had never experiences Fromville as a kid but Eloise did. Also, when Miranda was killed by Smiley, it wasn't shot by Miranda's POV but instead it was the audience's POV of what Eloise witnessing Miranda getting killed. I think Tabitha is Eloise💯
A. Tabithas nightmares about fromville as a kid aren't necessarily memories from when she was miranda, but rather they could be memories from another time she was reincarnated, as the chain of reincarnations may date back much longer, this is supported by the fact that the kid in tabithas dream was dressed in medieval clothes. It's also possible her dream was a memory of miranders dreams and/or memory. B. That makes sense, however, the camera angle probably has nothing to do with it, they more likely just want the audience to see what happened, not necessarily precisely how it happened from her perceptive. If you were to be that literal about it, then the scene wouldn't make sense from anyone's pov, given the way the camera switches positions and angles.
@Oliver-uu8dp the audience POV implies that it's coming a character's POV or it implies what is happening in the scene. The previous scene before that was the audience's POV of Tabitha having a memory or flashback. That implies that the scene of Miranda getting killed by Smiley is continuing the audience's POV of Tabitha which is showing the audience what Eloise is seeing.
Since season one this show has given us crumbs the entire episode then drops a big question mark in the last 20sec to make you run back to the next episode
Nope. It was clear that Tabatha was recalling her memories as eloise. Eloise left the cellar right after the mother. There is no way that tabatha is the reincarnated version of miranda... the age does not work. She would have been around 6 years old when miranda died.
The boy in the white is turning evil now and he doesn’t want Victor to cut down the tree because the tree will be the gateway for the evil characters to teleport into the real world to kill everyone there too and take over. The kapono kids are trying to help Tabitha figure out the way to save everyone from the town by finally putting the pieces together to close the portal from the tree and the real world.
The only revelation I felt was truly given is reincarnation. If that’s case in order to stop the cycles Ethan needs to die since he is the incarnation of the BIW. Just like Victor was supposed to die during the massacre when he was a kid.
Not all those people there have necessarily been there before. I imagine some were with the people who were destined to be there. Like Henry and Jim aren't the same soul though they both married the same soul person. Which means that some of the people are there for the first time and their life might be less or more valuable to the force or forces ruling over the place. It was Boyd's wife who had seen the place as a child so maybe this is Boyd's first time which could explain their special interest in him or his ability to find the talismans or even to be a leader and beacon of hope for the people.
I think its nore likely Tabitha is Victors sister. Which is why she had dreams of this place. Perhaps her brain is blocking trauma of early childhood. Edit: i think Jims going to die, first hea level headed with Randal and then was calm and good eith Ethan, the forshadowing of his inevitable demise? Randal seems to be affected by swatm when something is coming his way natural or otherwisr..
The reincarnation theory beginning to sound legit… maybe the numbers in the tree are the years they’ve been there before! Jade found a 1800 number in a bottle and he saw a guy dressed from that era 🤷🏾♀️
it has already been stated the monsters dont run, not because they cant but because it is more psychologic terrorism. we saw the grandma monster reach a 2nd floor window in the pilot. how did she get up there? Did she Fly? leap? climb? any of these is enough for me to think they can do more then just walk slow. to think they couldn't run... how many people "thought" the monsters CANT run? we all kinda already knew that
The monsters clearly have rules though. They can't open doors and the can't destroy doors or walls to get in either. Not being able to run could also be a rule, the thought isn't without logic.
@okyeawtf you are making a giant assumption. You have zero proof to back up anything. What do we know as fact. They are bulletproof, psychological sadistic, unhumanly strong, and they can speak. Everything else we "know" is an assumption for all we know they can fly have telekinesis and spit fire. I don't assume they can do any of thse thing but I also don't assume they cant.
At first I thought Tabitha was a child who was able to get out of the town, hence why she knew about the 3 rocks with blood/paint on it but now I believe the reincarnation theory and the two girls she sees all the time was her kids/Victor's sisters
I think you missed some things that were clearly explained in the episode. 1. Elgin is not a villain. He believes that Fatima will survive the pregnancy and that this will provide a way home. He paired with Ellis to try and reassure him that Fatima will live and be fine. It was not about being cruel, it is about protecting her and helping Ellis to feel better. 2. The Kimono lady covered Fatima’s mouth because Victor and Tabitha were on the other side of the wardrobe and would hear Fatima cry out. We don’t know yet what the Kimono lady wants, and the isolation might be to protect the people from another Tilly situation. 3. Fatima did not kill Tilly. The creature inside of her took control and used her body to kill Tilly. Fatima had no control therefore no agency. It is the equivalent of demonic possession. The next points are not spelled out in the episode. 4. We know that the children poured their hope into the tree and created the symbol. We also know that the town exists to steal hope from the residents and that is why the creatures pass up opportunities to kill them, (Victor in the caves, Boyd repeatedly, ect…) so the symbol is likely the key. Christopher was obsessed with the symbol and given the task to save the children. Jade might be the true chosen one as he is likely the reincarnation of Christopher. 5. Martin (The guy chained to the wall,) suggested a greater evil was coming back to the tower. We know time travel exists in the show’s pocket dimension. It is possible the baby is that greater evil born from the life stolen from the 3 chained in the tower. I wonder if all of this was to manifest that evil in physical form. In that sense maybe the trees don’t just move you through space, but also through time.
No. 1. Elgin is a greedy psychopath! She's having a fucking monster baby, that can eat its way out from Fatima's stomach! Is Elgin so stupid he doesn't suspect kimono lady is evil? At least, she's not straightforward, that's for sure. He paired w Elis because he's a mad man. And dumb. I dislike his character. He knows about Sarah, right? And tried to even judge her when she said she killed her brother. Elgin just came to town so he doesn't have the right to use sweet Fatima as a sacrifice to try and save them all, what if it doesn't work?? Why couldn't he confide in anyone? Because he knows they will speak the truth to him. Honestly, he is a villain. This is the story of a villain. They can be sweet, but they're selfish and always think what they're doing is the best.
2. Kimono lady is suspicious af. That was just demonic. And Elgin knows the town is crazy, why would he believe a weird demon lady who forces someone sweet to drink blood!! What good can come from that?
@@Belle-ql2nz I am just gonna reply to all points in one response. Elgin had a dream before arriving. He is deeply connected to the magic of the town. We don’t know what the Kimono lady told him to make Elgin trust her. Presumably the baby is not human (drinks blood and eats garbage.) But, it is inside Fatima one way or another. They cannot exactly abort a magical pregnancy. For all he knows not feeding it will kill Fatima and more townspeople. Notice he gave Fatima his own blood rather than trying to take someone else’s. He legit believes he is protecting her, and he legit believes he is trying to help Ellis. Either he is brainwashed by the Kimino lady, or he is willing helping her because he believes she is on their side, (just like Victor believes the boy in white is on their side, and the children seem to be on Tabitha’s side, and the dead priest hallucination is on Byod’s side.) don’t assume Kimono lady is evil just because she does not look human. I could see a twist where she is legit trying to save them.
ever since this kimono lady and elgin stuff started it felt downgrade like this whole season feels like nothing but bunch of filler i hope they gonna return to those night creatures stuff in season 4 cause those thing made season 1 & 2 special
So Tabitha is Victor's sister, which means Henry is also her father? What?! So who was the woman she spoke to when was in Camden, Maine? Adopted mother?
I think Tabitha may be victors sister.. she went out after the mom... Maybe she witnessed her death by hiding but didn't die herself till later ... Or maybe went through the tree and didn't die. I think this is more of a portal/time travel situation not reincarnation
My Theory is 1. Tabitha is the sister of Victor, who went out of the tree while her mother died. 2. Kamono Lady hold Fatima down, because the Victor & Tabitha were standing outside. 3. I think the town finally broke Boyd & I am very afraid that he is gonna die, while searching for Fatima.
@@Vibes-cl4klTabitha sure as hell isn't reincarnated Miranda💯. If Tabitha isn't Eloise, then how do you explain Tabitha having nightmares as a kid about Fromville when Miranda never experienced Fromville as a kid but Eloise was a kid who experienced Fromville🤔 Please don't bring up the actresses are different bull💩😂😂😂
I am interested in this show. But it’s frustrating. It’s hard to let go of the fact that it’s done by the same crew as lost. It feels like they have no clue/ answers (the writers) I just want answerssss
Also it’s annoying that the characters don’t communicate with each other ?? Like fuckin talk to each other and you might be able to put the pieces together
If this show was a meal then its now overcooked. so many questions so few answers its now frustrating at this point at least Lost gave us answers by S3..and why do they all feel like they have to do everything on their own? If they were actually working together instead of keeping secrets they would make so much progress. They act like they don't live in the same vicinity facing the same problem of wanting to survive and leave.. Everyone there has a hero complex and want to do everything on their own..
I think Jim becoming father and husband of the year is because he is going to ☠️. They made us dislike him then just redeeemed him - he’s .prob gonners
Any youtuber who brings up smiley im assume they read the leaks. Theres no reason anyone should be thinking of smiley honestly. Another creature entirely could be born. But i know wassup with these "theories "
😮 What if the BIW is Tabitha's son. Through reincarnation, Victor is her son too and the BIW has a special relationship with and chose both her sons Victor and Ethan. Could the special relationship between the BIW, Victor and Ethan because they share the same mother?
@@lavelledavis6474 Ethan is alive, he was the one who said Victor was his bestfriend a couple episodes ago, and went with Julie to the ruins. The one who passed was Thomas, his and Julie's baby brother.
also, notice how Elgin has been wearing that crow shirt most of the season. don't exactly know what the crow represents, but every time we've seen them it hasn't been good. gotta be some connection there
not bad one, but not strong one either, especially as penultimate tabitha is in general biggest disappointment this season as character arc development, her being victor's mom or her memory - not very interesting, it's like victors sudden memory recollection about boy in white given instructions how to save children, like he can do it any moment of the show now - oh, a remembered this and that, c'mon
Tabitha is Victor's sister. Remember when she recognized those red stones in her dream when she was a little girl? Well, I don't think it was a dream, but a repressed memory.
That was a different little girl, though. Also, why wouldn't Henry remember his own daughter? Also Eloise was Victor's older sister. Tabitha is clearly younger than him. ALSO, when Tabitha got out she called her mom on the phone. Victor's mom is dead.
@okyeawtf I believe the dream is her repressed memory. Henry believed they were both dead, and it's been a long time. So even though he did recognise her, he would have sounded insane. Moreover, the town has a way of changing people like the boy in white said. This is my theory.
@@elijahabimiku3189Tabitha is definitely Eloise. Her reaction at the end of the episode shows that. In that moment, she realized that those nightmares were actually her being a kid(Eloise) in Fromville.
I feel like its not about reincarnation.. what is the point? Why the creatures and murdering people? For simply being reincarnated? So many cultures believe in reincarnation and yeah, no creatures and towns you can’t leave and stupid plot lines that go nowhere. This show, is a mindfck, these people are not reincarnations. Believe me, this will be the ultimate finale of the worse show ever made.
I checked out of this show after episode 7. Congrats writers/producers. You are destroying a great show with the snail pace. I don’t subscribe to the perspective of other viewers that consider this show infallible. I still watch but I’m not holding my breath for anything
I’m starting to feel similarly tbh. No one likes too much of a tease. It feels like once they reveal the truth about fromville. There’s gonna be loads of plot holes.
Not sure why people keep throwing the word “reincarnation” here like wtf… no, yes they showed the mother but for different reason. Tabitha is the sister.
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Scott McCord as Victor is becoming my favourite performance in the show! He's absolutely smashing it at the moment. What did you think of this episode? Let me know your thoughts in the comments!
I Can't see them wrapping this up in one episode, so hope we get another season
Another thing is the Creatures are always portrayed as walker as much as I can remember. I don't think I have ever seen creatures run like how smiley ran towards Miranda in the end of this episode.
I recall they mentioned in s1 they use to run and howl before the town got hold of the talismans. Then they considered it a game as the town no longer hid but would always be in the houses at night. So the monsters always knew where the towns ppl would end up therefore no need to chase them at speed.
I was so shocked when I saw him run 😳
@@SlayerSage once they turn into looking as a monster their abilities seem to change such as getting stronger while holding Boyd in place. Also the first episode Granny monster turned and attacked quickly.
I think it’s because the creatures CAN run but they walk to give the people more hope to escape (they feed off hope)
The lady who was with Fatima was trying to silence her knowing that people were in the cellar and didn't want her to alert them because it needs her to give birth
But is it good or bad intention? Will the birth help them escape or not. I am just so confused at that point
@@annemaried.8055 Nah fam that thing is evil, she is using the black man, to trap that her and, and that that thing getting birth to the babby. And i think the baby is that evil thing true form
I feel like if it had good intentions it wouldn't need to prevent her from being with her husband or loved ones nor need to consume blood. @@annemaried.8055
What can be good from feeding a baby blood!!😂
I was shocked when she touched her. I thought she was just a ghost
I feel like the only way to break the cycle is for people to actually communicate and work together rather than keep secrets and solve everything on their own
i had the same idea.. why do they all feel like they have to do everything on their own? If they were actually working together instead of keeping secrets they would make so much progress.
Because thats what we all humans do
@@mcrn_Rocinante There would be no television series if all the characters talked about the hallucinations and stuff that makes no sense. This place defies physics as we know it.
That’s the biggest problem for me with these town folks. It’s like have a weekly meeting and sharing dreams, visions and theories. They could have came up with something and maybe if they did this the relationship with Victor and the town’s folks could have been different from the jump.
The issue I have with the show is that it's appears the writers are building up the story arc without having a concrete plan for the characters - they did not start the show with a specific ending in mind, only a loose idea of potential climaxes based upon audience reception.
No they did. This is what they changed about lost because people were mad about lost bc the writers were making stuff up as they went but some actors wouldn’t sign to be on from unless they had it figured out from the beginning
Its clear they are writing as they go and whoever says the opposites is just glazing
@@asant90 they actually aren’t. They’ve addressed it multiple times. If you get get over answers leading to more questions than you simply just don’t understand a mystery show. Especially a good one at that
@@asant90 like it’s an actualy fact that they are not writing as they go. I’m not just saying that because I think they are
We don't know if the Hollywood people are lying or not. @@JamesTTrott
The town is definitely breaking Boyd, if slowly. For example, the scene when he yells at the Nurse monster who taunted him.
That was out of character for him, and it was reminiscent of the scene when Fatima broke and started yelling at a monster.
Captain obvious over here😂...
Its trying but I think the people sticking together will stop it .. once him and Scarface have a conversation and he forgives Boyd
😮 What if Boyd's wife, Abby, was right! When she shot those people saying that's the only way to escape? Miranda perishes and reincarnated in the normal world as Tabitha, essentially, she escaped FROM ans was born anew. Does this happen to everyone who perishes there, you just get reborn again in the normal world?
But they don’t actually escape, they just end up back in the town in the next life.
@rachelvoiles9699 If someone escapes from prison and is later on caught, we still acknowledge they escaped despite being caught. Same with Miranda and Tabitha, her soul escaped, she got new parents, made friends, grew up, started a family, a career etc away from FROM for around 40 years. Yes, FROM caught her again, but it doesn't erase the life she lived freely in the normal world.
@@BaDazaiIn a way Fromville used her to catch more prey. Now she's back with 3 more souls. Good bargain for the monsters
Crazy how Tabitha wanted to be close to Victor at the end and rejected Julie. Amazing acting
the best acting i’ve seen from her through the whole series
Good observation
I believe that Tabitha is Eloise and her memory is returning, I believe that she went through the tree when she was younger after possibly following her Mom and witnessing what happened I believe that she was trying to hide after seeing her Mom killed and she hid in a faraway tree and was able to escape only to return to complete what others had started, Victor never mentioned finding his sister dead, just my theory
I believe this theory too
@@steverogers3229 nah, she's Victor's reincarnated mum.
Except Tabitha is a solid 10yrs younger than Victor, has an accent, has a mother, and neither Henry nor Victor recognized her but recognized each other immediately
Hell, Henry recognized Miranda's scarf in the dark after mere seconds... but can't recognize his daughter?
We saw Tabitha's childhood. Little Tabitha and Eloise were played by different actresses.
@@Mariam_Kirwe saw them at different ages though
WHY. Why won't the writers just let Viktor's father tell Jade about the stupid doll? Why are the making the two characters interact, if not for this reason? Just let him mention Jasper to Jade already. But no, instead in the last episode they make him mention Vicktor trying to talk to A PIECE OF WOOD. SRSLY? JUST LET HIM SAY THE PRECISE FUCKING WORDS ALREADY.
and that would advance the story how? it wouldn't. Ex. Henry: my son, who dont understand has been talking to a wooden puppet named jasper. Jade: wow that's crazy! I had a vision of a man with a puppet... (end scene)
@@msto1987 Except that then Jade might decide to see the doll for himself and something happens. After all the times he has seen the doll, I would like to think that it keeps showing up for a reason. Otherwise, why keep showing it to Jade? To waste screentime?
If this is not the objective of the constant interactions between them, then I don't know what is. The message of "there is nothing wrong with your son and you should treat him differently" could have been given in one scene.
If I end up being wrong and the doll serves no purpose, then fine. But if it does, then fuck the writers for making us wait for so long.
@johnzero6588 oh now you want to be a writer on the show... if this happens then this happens... this is called fan fiction and it is pathetic. Just let the writers tell the story they want to tell how they want to tell it. If you don't like it don't watch.
@@msto1987 Braindead take. It is completely possible to like a show and criticize parts of it at the same time. Writers will, of course, keep doing whatever they want. Doesn't mean their decisions can not be questioned.
We already have so many plot points. If the interactions between Jade and Vikctor's father are solely for the sake of character development and not other reason, then, imo, the show does not really need as much of them as we were shown. There are many other things the screentime instead could be used for.
Elgin is so Sus. How can Ellis not notice. Ellis has to be dumbest character out there
he obviously knows elgin is actin dodgy, but he knows if he pressures elgin, he wont give him any more hints
Elgin is so sis. Kinda messed up he went to help Ellis. He's doing what he's doing for the Kimono lady but he actually chose to be alongside Ellis
@ proper psychopath lol
@@AF564
They always have to be psychopaths just cause they don't allign EXACTLY with your ideas of right and wrong, he thinks he's doing something right, it's enough to not label him a psycho.
But if they mess up even a little, then they are a psychopath huh? You're crazy
I don't think Elgin is diabolical... He already showed precognitive ability and Scarface reminded us of this last episode. Don't be surprised if eligin really has a special ability and is helping the situation... Keeping her fed and away from people is the safest thing right now, considering the alternative is her probably fighting it and killing more people
I can’t help but believe that Boyd doesn’t actually have Parkinson. We know that this place has knowledge of their lives out in the real world and this could just be a way of the town to further try to break Boyd. When he’s telling Kenny (i think) that he has Parkinson and that his clock is ticking he mentions that his dad got it around the same age Boyd is now. But he also says that it’s not supposed to be hereditary. Just like Fatima wasn’t supposed to be able to have a child, Boyds’ Parkinson could be something that the town uses to mess with their minds.
Plus he was going to retire on a boat. Doesn’t sound like a guy who would get this disease all of a sudden
The symptoms appear whenever Boyd is feeling helpless. When he has purpose they go away
I thought the worms cured his parkinson by keeping the host alive no matter what (martin) but now I'm thinking your right its just the town messing with his confidence
The town plays on your fears.
This series is just breaking us, the viewers.
We are the real victims🚮.
The producers are capitalizing on our confusion/Curiosity.
This season will also just end like the other two, with many unanswered questions.💔
Yup. And I’m all for it
Agreed
That’s a WHOLE fact!
Argument Tabitha isn't Eloise:
Tabitha's actress is 10 full years younger than Victor's actor, and is an entirely different nationality. Tabitha has a Spanish accent and even calls her mother in the real world and they speak spanish to each other (a very specific scene as if to confirm that Tabitha is not related to any missing woman from the Town).
Not to mention that she is the first person from Henry's family that Henry sees in 40 years and he doesn't recognize her? He holds her at gunpoint? But he recognizes Victor's lunchbox? He notices Miranda's scarf?
Argument Tabitha is Eloise:
They are both women
I dunno about you guys, but I know which I am more convinced by.
Tabitha was born in the year that Miranda died. She is a reincarnation of her
Tabitha is Eloise. Tabitha had nightmares about Fromville as a kid. Miranda never experienced Fromville as a kid but Eloise did. Tabitha's reaction at the end of the episode was her realizing that those nightmares were actually her in Fromville as a kid(Eloise). The scene of Miranda getting killed was shot as the audience's POV of what Tabitha witnessed which was her mother getting killed. It wasn't Miranda's or Eloise's POV. The reincarnation theory makes no sense.
You gave 0 good arguments for why it shouldn't be her.
@@richardschultzberg562I gave literally all the arguments, your media literacy is bad
@@downtoearthproductionsTabitha isn't having memories of Frimville as a child, she has memories of nightmares she had as a child. Nightmares she had because she is the reincarnation, or next cyclical incarnation, of whatever archetype or person Miranda also was as Miranda similarly had these visions of her previous experiences.
Unless you want to try and gin up some contrivance that Miranda was secretly from the Town as well?
Oh yeah, and you also have to find some.way to dismiss all those indicators that she isn't Eloise*.
For an episode titled revelations I sure came out of it with with more questions… lovely work from lovely work 😑😑
You don’t understand answers are always going to lead to more questions until you get the whole complete answer of what this show is. And there’s planning to be 5 seasons so there’s going to be more question until then
@ no I totally understand that … but for an episode titled revelations I’m definitely meant to leave with more answers than questions and this episode and season hasn’t done that whatsoever
@ I mean next episode is revelations also it’s just part 2 so you have to treat them as one episode
@ let’s see how it goes … overall the season has just been lackluster for me
@ I think it’s seemed slow bc we couldn’t binge it but I get what your saying
this is absolutely off topic but i honestly think Jim isn't gonna make it through next ep, he is slowly tying up loose ends with his family and his character isnt in any major plot lines. i feel that hes gonna take Julie for a final car ride then he might sacrifice himself or something may happen. Any thoughts on this?
Well i think he will survive, he is just doing what henry told him to do, is to understand his family. They’re just showing how easy it is to stay happy if we just understand each other. I dont see any major death in this season after tilly
I see you saw the spoilers.
@@Dead_Goat naw ur trolling :(
I don't think everyone is a reincarnation. It seems like some people just get unlucky and get dragged along for the ride with reincarnated individuals. Jim obviously can't be Henry and Ethan can't be Victor even if their roles are similar. Most of the bust people serve no purpose.
@@EternalFount exactly. Boyd's wife had memories of the place as a child. Is this Boyd's first time? Is that why they seem more interested in him? Is it why he was able to find the talismans and to lead and inspire hope in the people? The guy who came with Jade, why did he need to die immediately?
Starting to think all those apparitions Jade is seeing are echoes of previous lives. The recurring sitting position, head turn and scream (boulder guy, Jasper, Christopher) feels like a future reveal.
he was both a puppet and a puppeteer, in a past life, simultaneously? ran out of plausible evidence after 2 lol... that's how weak this theory is, even if true, your "facts" lack Facts
@@msto1987 it literally just got confirmed that Tabitha is a reincarnation of Miranda. How is this theory "weak" lmao
@bleep6821 confirmed? I must have missed that confirmation...where was it confirmed? Oh yeah...it wasnt. But I was more referring to your jade nonsenses
@@msto1987 you’re obviously just clueless lol. I wasnt even the one talking about jade, that was the other guy. But i dont think its nonsense, this show is filled with mysteries that we can only theorize to make sense of whats going on. Jade being a reincarnation of christopher is completely possible. But if you actually think the ending scene to episode 9 isnt obviously revealing to us that Tabitha is Miranda reincarnated, then you’re seriously cooked my man
@@bleep6821 You don't have to theorize your theories are going to be wrong. You can sit back and watch this show. Im, enjoy what the writers lay out for you.They will give you answers when they want to give you answers, and if you don't like that, then this is not the show for you
Tabitha being Mirandas reincarnation can be the reason Thomas died. As Tabitha just like Miranda was supposed to have 2 children. And after Thomas's death maybe he's stuck here too and the voice Jim heard is actually Thomas.
No way that's Thomas. The cruelty in the voice is undeniable. Their child would never do that
Tf u excpect on a cursed town @@niaselah3348
Elgin wasnt acting like a madman. He thinks he is doing the right think and pairing up helps him to avoid searching anywhere near the cellar where Tabitha is residing
1. The kimono lady was covering Fatima’s mouth to keep her quiet because Victor was standing inside the cellar, then Tabitha came in behind him.
2. The BIW clearly stated that he tried transparency with Christopher before, but seeing how that turned out the people of the town will have to figure it out for themselves this time. I don’t think the BIW enjoys the suffering.
ABBY ALSO HAD DREAMS AS A CHILD ABOUT THAT PLACE
@@luvlihyunjin exactly this is why I am saying that Tabitha or Miranda is not the chosen one. It’s jade and Christopher
Ankooee - Aunt Julie [The time traveler who visits the kids and tells them stories to give them hope]
Hmmm... this one is interesting. It's been found/said that it means "remember" in some other language. But this seems interestingly fun as ppl keep remembering Julie amd we've seen her time travel.
I like this idea!!!! Especially since she gives stories to Ethan all the time and even uses the stories as hope for herself to cross the threshold. Nice one
Tabitha is the one who tell the kids the story to give them hope and keep getting reincarnated tell she help them
Its Julie - she's the time traveler
@@OmiyoJ only one person seeing the kids
I hope that creature that taunted Boyd wasn’t foreshadowing his future. If Boyd’s fate is to ring the bell in an empty town as the final resident only to decide to end it all then ppl gonna skin the writers.
I think the tree definitely need to te cut down to stop the game, maybe without the tree they can't keep bringing people into the town and the cycle ends, I think that it is at least a sacrificial way of stopping everything
@@larkilanders I don’t think so. I think the tree is important to bring people from one place to another even if sometime it makes you get stuck
Guys Fatima's actress said theyve planned for 5 seasons! Actually watch the show so we get them!!!
three seasons of mystery to be reincarnation stuff would be so frustrating
What if the baby is connected to the boy in white. Fatimas stomach grew the same episode, the boy in white has started to look older. And with the reincarnation theory if that is true then how is victor and Ethan alive at the same time …. Isn’t reincarnation about having the same soul and different body? I do think there is some reincarnation going on but the logistics just don’t make sense
The baby is smiley, Tabatha is victors reincarnated mother, Jim gets killed by a man in yellow
@@rishabkarki5506that’s pretty shitty to just spoil part of the finale. Such a dick move.
Logistics??? lol.
If this happens im going to find you
Watchout 😊 @@rishabkarki5506
The lady was covering Fatima’s mouth because they are literally outside the door and would hear her if she yelled out for help….
The fact that the Ankooee girl was telling Tabitha were to go ( i think is good side)..and then the Kimono lady trying to shush Fatima ... huh...I think she's bad
The reincarnated theory doesn't seem legit because it doesn't explain how Tabitha had nightmares about Fromville as a kid when Miranda had never experiences Fromville as a kid but Eloise did. Also, when Miranda was killed by Smiley, it wasn't shot by Miranda's POV but instead it was the audience's POV of what Eloise witnessing Miranda getting killed. I think Tabitha is Eloise💯
A. Tabithas nightmares about fromville as a kid aren't necessarily memories from when she was miranda, but rather they could be memories from another time she was reincarnated, as the chain of reincarnations may date back much longer, this is supported by the fact that the kid in tabithas dream was dressed in medieval clothes. It's also possible her dream was a memory of miranders dreams and/or memory.
B. That makes sense, however, the camera angle probably has nothing to do with it, they more likely just want the audience to see what happened, not necessarily precisely how it happened from her perceptive.
If you were to be that literal about it, then the scene wouldn't make sense from anyone's pov, given the way the camera switches positions and angles.
@Oliver-uu8dp the audience POV implies that it's coming a character's POV or it implies what is happening in the scene. The previous scene before that was the audience's POV of Tabitha having a memory or flashback. That implies that the scene of Miranda getting killed by Smiley is continuing the audience's POV of Tabitha which is showing the audience what Eloise is seeing.
Since season one this show has given us crumbs the entire episode then drops a big question mark in the last 20sec to make you run back to the next episode
I blame John locke's father.
😂
Nope. It was clear that Tabatha was recalling her memories as eloise. Eloise left the cellar right after the mother. There is no way that tabatha is the reincarnated version of miranda... the age does not work. She would have been around 6 years old when miranda died.
I believe Tabitha is Eloise. Some memory loss thrown in there…but this episode confirmed it for me. 👍🏾
Maybe some new guests will arrive soon after the death of Dale and Tillie
Jade is the reincarnation of Christopher. Thats why he is so determined to get it right this time.
The boy in the white is turning evil now and he doesn’t want Victor to cut down the tree because the tree will be the gateway for the evil characters to teleport into the real world to kill everyone there too and take over. The kapono kids are trying to help Tabitha figure out the way to save everyone from the town by finally putting the pieces together to close the portal from the tree and the real world.
The only revelation I felt was truly given is reincarnation. If that’s case in order to stop the cycles Ethan needs to die since he is the incarnation of the BIW. Just like Victor was supposed to die during the massacre when he was a kid.
Not all those people there have necessarily been there before. I imagine some were with the people who were destined to be there. Like Henry and Jim aren't the same soul though they both married the same soul person. Which means that some of the people are there for the first time and their life might be less or more valuable to the force or forces ruling over the place. It was Boyd's wife who had seen the place as a child so maybe this is Boyd's first time which could explain their special interest in him or his ability to find the talismans or even to be a leader and beacon of hope for the people.
This show has so many loose ends they hopefully tie off or maybe touch on.
Im starting to think that Victor is boy in white,i mean other half of him and that Victor killed all of them.
I think its nore likely Tabitha is Victors sister. Which is why she had dreams of this place. Perhaps her brain is blocking trauma of early childhood.
Edit: i think Jims going to die, first hea level headed with Randal and then was calm and good eith Ethan, the forshadowing of his inevitable demise?
Randal seems to be affected by swatm when something is coming his way natural or otherwisr..
The reincarnation theory beginning to sound legit… maybe the numbers in the tree are the years they’ve been there before! Jade found a 1800 number in a bottle and he saw a guy dressed from that era 🤷🏾♀️
The faraway tree was closed when victor's mum arrived, and it was the first time we saw a monster running
it has already been stated the monsters dont run, not because they cant but because it is more psychologic terrorism. we saw the grandma monster reach a 2nd floor window in the pilot. how did she get up there? Did she Fly? leap? climb? any of these is enough for me to think they can do more then just walk slow. to think they couldn't run... how many people "thought" the monsters CANT run? we all kinda already knew that
The monsters clearly have rules though. They can't open doors and the can't destroy doors or walls to get in either. Not being able to run could also be a rule, the thought isn't without logic.
@okyeawtf you are making a giant assumption. You have zero proof to back up anything. What do we know as fact. They are bulletproof, psychological sadistic, unhumanly strong, and they can speak. Everything else we "know" is an assumption for all we know they can fly have telekinesis and spit fire. I don't assume they can do any of thse thing but I also don't assume they cant.
At first I thought Tabitha was a child who was able to get out of the town, hence why she knew about the 3 rocks with blood/paint on it but now I believe the reincarnation theory and the two girls she sees all the time was her kids/Victor's sisters
I think you missed some things that were clearly explained in the episode.
1. Elgin is not a villain. He believes that Fatima will survive the pregnancy and that this will provide a way home. He paired with Ellis to try and reassure him that Fatima will live and be fine. It was not about being cruel, it is about protecting her and helping Ellis to feel better.
2. The Kimono lady covered Fatima’s mouth because Victor and Tabitha were on the other side of the wardrobe and would hear Fatima cry out. We don’t know yet what the Kimono lady wants, and the isolation might be to protect the people from another Tilly situation.
3. Fatima did not kill Tilly. The creature inside of her took control and used her body to kill Tilly. Fatima had no control therefore no agency. It is the equivalent of demonic possession.
The next points are not spelled out in the episode.
4. We know that the children poured their hope into the tree and created the symbol. We also know that the town exists to steal hope from the residents and that is why the creatures pass up opportunities to kill them, (Victor in the caves, Boyd repeatedly, ect…) so the symbol is likely the key. Christopher was obsessed with the symbol and given the task to save the children. Jade might be the true chosen one as he is likely the reincarnation of Christopher.
5. Martin (The guy chained to the wall,) suggested a greater evil was coming back to the tower. We know time travel exists in the show’s pocket dimension. It is possible the baby is that greater evil born from the life stolen from the 3 chained in the tower. I wonder if all of this was to manifest that evil in physical form. In that sense maybe the trees don’t just move you through space, but also through time.
No. 1. Elgin is a greedy psychopath! She's having a fucking monster baby, that can eat its way out from Fatima's stomach! Is Elgin so stupid he doesn't suspect kimono lady is evil? At least, she's not straightforward, that's for sure.
He paired w Elis because he's a mad man. And dumb. I dislike his character. He knows about Sarah, right? And tried to even judge her when she said she killed her brother. Elgin just came to town so he doesn't have the right to use sweet Fatima as a sacrifice to try and save them all, what if it doesn't work?? Why couldn't he confide in anyone? Because he knows they will speak the truth to him. Honestly, he is a villain. This is the story of a villain. They can be sweet, but they're selfish and always think what they're doing is the best.
2. Kimono lady is suspicious af. That was just demonic. And Elgin knows the town is crazy, why would he believe a weird demon lady who forces someone sweet to drink blood!! What good can come from that?
3. Seee, you agree it's a demon baby. That's just not normal. So Elgin is playing some superhero, and that's wrong.
**creature, I mean. Demon, creature, all the same to me😂sorry.
@@Belle-ql2nz I am just gonna reply to all points in one response. Elgin had a dream before arriving. He is deeply connected to the magic of the town. We don’t know what the Kimono lady told him to make Elgin trust her. Presumably the baby is not human (drinks blood and eats garbage.) But, it is inside Fatima one way or another. They cannot exactly abort a magical pregnancy. For all he knows not feeding it will kill Fatima and more townspeople. Notice he gave Fatima his own blood rather than trying to take someone else’s. He legit believes he is protecting her, and he legit believes he is trying to help Ellis. Either he is brainwashed by the Kimino lady, or he is willing helping her because he believes she is on their side, (just like Victor believes the boy in white is on their side, and the children seem to be on Tabitha’s side, and the dead priest hallucination is on Byod’s side.) don’t assume Kimono lady is evil just because she does not look human. I could see a twist where she is legit trying to save them.
I loved the part when jade was on the latter and yalled at the doll
I thought she remembered being Victor's sister.
Ikr😢😢😢
That's what I thought it was going to be! But then when Miranda was in the woods I had my "ahhhh" moment
But her Victor's sister followed miranda might be it was tabitha
@@BrainPilot Victors sister ran out. Probably watched her mom die and went through the tree.
Makes no sense for her to be Eloise
I think kimono ghost is Fathima. Makes it more darker 😮
ever since this kimono lady and elgin stuff started it felt downgrade
like this whole season feels like nothing but bunch of filler
i hope they gonna return to those night creatures stuff in season 4 cause those thing made season 1 & 2 special
If an alien baby comes out of Fatima, I’m going to freak out
Smiley comes out.
It's smiley
It will and she will pass away in the process
So Tabitha is Victor's sister, which means Henry is also her father?
What?! So who was the woman she spoke to when was in Camden, Maine?
Adopted mother?
She's Victor's mother
@@KatherinyAngela But she died. Victor found her body.
@averycolnite3561 It's her reincarnation
I think Tabitha may be victors sister.. she went out after the mom... Maybe she witnessed her death by hiding but didn't die herself till later ... Or maybe went through the tree and didn't die.
I think this is more of a portal/time travel situation not reincarnation
Tabitha is not the chosen one neither was Miranda it’s Jade and Christopher
My Theory is
1. Tabitha is the sister of Victor, who went out of the tree while her mother died.
2. Kamono Lady hold Fatima down, because the Victor & Tabitha were standing outside.
3. I think the town finally broke Boyd & I am very afraid that he is gonna die, while searching for Fatima.
Tabitha is clearly not Eloise
Tabitha was born in the year Miranda died.
Idiot. Why do you still think Tabitha is Eloise for God's sake.
@@Vibes-cl4klTabitha sure as hell isn't reincarnated Miranda💯. If Tabitha isn't Eloise, then how do you explain Tabitha having nightmares as a kid about Fromville when Miranda never experienced Fromville as a kid but Eloise was a kid who experienced Fromville🤔 Please don't bring up the actresses are different bull💩😂😂😂
I am interested in this show. But it’s frustrating. It’s hard to let go of the fact that it’s done by the same crew as lost. It feels like they have no clue/ answers (the writers)
I just want answerssss
Also it’s annoying that the characters don’t communicate with each other ?? Like fuckin talk to each other and you might be able to put the pieces together
If this show was a meal then its now overcooked. so many questions so few answers its now frustrating at this point at least Lost gave us answers by S3..and why do they all feel like they have to do everything on their own? If they were actually working together instead of keeping secrets they would make so much progress. They act like they don't live in the same vicinity facing the same problem of wanting to survive and leave.. Everyone there has a hero complex and want to do everything on their own..
it's not looking good for Ellis... first my boy Kenny, now this? can't catch a break with this show
Another boring episode. It’s way too slow & the story is not progressing. They fooled me once with the walking dead. I’m not doing this again
I think Jim becoming father and husband of the year is because he is going to ☠️. They made us dislike him then just redeeemed him - he’s .prob gonners
Could she be victors sister though?
Any youtuber who brings up smiley im assume they read the leaks. Theres no reason anyone should be thinking of smiley honestly. Another creature entirely could be born. But i know wassup with these "theories "
Great episode
😮 What if the BIW is Tabitha's son. Through reincarnation, Victor is her son too and the BIW has a special relationship with and chose both her sons Victor and Ethan. Could the special relationship between the BIW, Victor and Ethan because they share the same mother?
If the show is about reincarnation then how sad… stupid af😅
@asant90 how so? :)
I doubt it bc Ethan died as a baby
@@lavelledavis6474 Ethan is alive, he was the one who said Victor was his bestfriend a couple episodes ago, and went with Julie to the ruins. The one who passed was Thomas, his and Julie's baby brother.
What if the kimono lady is actually evil and Elgin is just being deceived by her?
also, notice how Elgin has been wearing that crow shirt most of the season. don't exactly know what the crow represents, but every time we've seen them it hasn't been good. gotta be some connection there
I like Elgin man hope nothing bad happens to hik
Reincarnation is such a lazy angle... mehh!!
hopefully that's not it.
Tabitha is like the Avatar 😮
not bad one, but not strong one either, especially as penultimate
tabitha is in general biggest disappointment this season as character arc development, her being victor's mom or her memory - not very interesting, it's like victors sudden memory recollection about boy in white given instructions how to save children, like he can do it any moment of the show now - oh, a remembered this and that, c'mon
The boy in white is changing along with the town.. maybe he keeps changing till he finally becomes the man in the yellow suit
Wait, what man in the yellow suit??
Smiley can run now 👍
Tabitha is Victor's sister. Remember when she recognized those red stones in her dream when she was a little girl? Well, I don't think it was a dream, but a repressed memory.
That was a different little girl, though.
Also, why wouldn't Henry remember his own daughter?
Also Eloise was Victor's older sister. Tabitha is clearly younger than him.
ALSO, when Tabitha got out she called her mom on the phone. Victor's mom is dead.
@okyeawtf I believe the dream is her repressed memory. Henry believed they were both dead, and it's been a long time. So even though he did recognise her, he would have sounded insane. Moreover, the town has a way of changing people like the boy in white said. This is my theory.
@@elijahabimiku3189Tabitha is definitely Eloise. Her reaction at the end of the episode shows that. In that moment, she realized that those nightmares were actually her being a kid(Eloise) in Fromville.
Where's a revelation in a episode named clearly Revelation !
Smiley Monster is Back Baby
No one cares … there is just one episode left and then we can wait months - years for new season if they bring one out.
I feel like its not about reincarnation.. what is the point? Why the creatures and murdering people? For simply being reincarnated? So many cultures believe in reincarnation and yeah, no creatures and towns you can’t leave and stupid plot lines that go nowhere.
This show, is a mindfck, these people are not reincarnations. Believe me, this will be the ultimate finale of the worse show ever made.
I checked out of this show after episode 7. Congrats writers/producers. You are destroying a great show with the snail pace. I don’t subscribe to the perspective of other viewers that consider this show infallible. I still watch but I’m not holding my breath for anything
I’m starting to feel similarly tbh. No one likes too much of a tease. It feels like once they reveal the truth about fromville. There’s gonna be loads of plot holes.
Acosta is clearly Donnas sister
Dude no😂
I was thinking Abby.
I have been saying that she is Donna's daughter that she gave up. They give hope only to take it away.
This show has become so tedious and the characters so unlikable.
And they didn't hear fatima screaming
Hi can someone know that please tell episode when it will come on Amazon prime in india ?.
She is victor sister she escaped the mom put her in the tree left Victor there
Every time someone says mother Miranda I think of Resident Evil 😅
Rise and smile Smiley, Rise and smile ;)
You aint big or clever
So monsters can run
maybe because she was so close to getting into the tree.
Is Tabitha Victor's sister . Wild idea i know
Victor found his mother at the same place where he lost her 🤯
You spelled sister wrong. It's not mother.
Just keeps getting stupider with no questions answered
Not sure why people keep throwing the word “reincarnation” here like wtf… no, yes they showed the mother but for different reason. Tabitha is the sister.
It’s bc the last episode got leaked already. It’s true
@@waffletoaster4759 where did it leak ?
Stop with the sister nonsense. It makes no sense.
She went to the wrong tree
Has the show answered how Fatima got prego in the first place?
It’s a demon ghost baby gang the same way that Mary got Jesus in her belly but evil style
Writer need to be fired lol obviously he's the smartest person in the room and OVER SHOT the story lol
It’s SMILEY 😃
Let me correct you, the last 5 minute REVELATION, everything else was useless chit-chat
I wish I wasnt so distracted since e1 by Fatima's button nose job, it is too obvious.
Nothings explained, just another interpretation
I am thinking Tabitha might die next episode. She finds Fatima but that baby eats her or lunges at her in the end then the screen goes black
They played with us again 😂😂😂 but so is tabitha victors mom or sister ??? 🤔🤔🤔
I'm saying Mother!
I am saying sister
I think sister