The Hero Overwatch 2 Needed: the Complete Venture Guide

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  • Опубликовано: 12 июн 2024
  • OW2's new damage hero Venture has been the source of a lot of controversy in-game. Are the burst combos OP, are they too easy to counter? Is the hero design even good? Coach Spilo answers all these questions, and (maybe more importantly), teaches you how to ACTUALLY play the hero in ranked, whether you're new or experienced with the hero.
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    Tracklist - pastebin.com/S4H5q1SD
    0:00 Intro
    0:45 How to Play
    7:55 Coaching
    19:45 Hero Design
    Edited by ryanp - / @ryanp652
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  • @StormcrowProductions
    @StormcrowProductions  Месяц назад +42

    What are your thoughts on Venture atm?

    • @kvm6118
      @kvm6118 Месяц назад +5

      it's good step towards bringing dps doom back in the game

    • @WinterGoBrrr
      @WinterGoBrrr Месяц назад +12

      Really fun, weak to boring snipers. Embodies everything an overwatch hero should be. The uniqueness of the characters is what made me love overwatch when I started playing it 8 years ago.

    • @Veimat-tv6mf
      @Veimat-tv6mf Месяц назад +5

      Maybe a little bit to much damage

    • @Veimat-tv6mf
      @Veimat-tv6mf Месяц назад

      ​@@kvm6118true fuc mauga

    • @BonzoDeAap
      @BonzoDeAap Месяц назад +1

      ​@@WinterGoBrrrSnipers are the easiest enemies to eliminate, its heroes with CC that are troublesome

  • @Skyrdr
    @Skyrdr Месяц назад +178

    “Groundbreaking” That pun rocks. I can dig it.

  • @BringerOfMoisture
    @BringerOfMoisture Месяц назад +67

    A solid tip for playing Venture is just… have a history for playing Splatoon. I’m serious. Because I played splatoon 1 religiously years ago, I kinda just… understood how to use venture perfectly off the start of the season.

    • @phlbbth5064
      @phlbbth5064 Месяц назад +6

      genuinely true, i've played a ton of splatoon 3 and venture's primary shots are VERY similar to a blaster. the biggest similarity to me is being able to use the blast radius to poke from above shields and cover, which is something that only really blasters can do and excel at. also the whole "diving into the ground to engage/disengage" thing is very splatoon-y lol

    • @p4lladion
      @p4lladion Месяц назад +5

      thats so true actually i picked up venture a few days ago bc i wanted to try them out and it just felt very natural (probably bc ive played splatoon for so long lol)

    • @colewedell6089
      @colewedell6089 23 дня назад +1

      That’s so true I never played splatoon and I’m garbage

    • @SteelSquishy
      @SteelSquishy 18 дней назад +1

      Huh! I never realized that, no wonder I was pretty good at venture from the get-go. I was used to swimming under the ink, but even better cause invincible

    • @Pocketnaut
      @Pocketnaut 2 дня назад

      RIGHT?? My first thought was "this primary fire feels like a blaster without a crit"

  • @blackpope8834
    @blackpope8834 Месяц назад +70

    Ground breaking *

  • @klups9207
    @klups9207 Месяц назад +51

    at 8:19 you mention a shoot, drill, shoot, melee combo. a better combo if you are in melee range is: Shoot, instantly melee (only getting impact damage) into instantly drill, cancelling the melee with drill, then shoot which does 290, killing most squishies aside from cassidy because of roll, mei, and reaper

    • @knyt0
      @knyt0 Месяц назад +3

      it does 290, 80+30+100+80

    • @klups9207
      @klups9207 Месяц назад

      @@knyt0 oh true mb, doesnt usually kill cassidy because of roll

    • @wasabebo8334
      @wasabebo8334 Месяц назад

      nah that combo does less dmg bcus melee does less in the same amount of time if u insta drill
      the only time you want to do that combo is against someone with high hp
      but the combo is a bit dif it would be shoot, melee, insta drill, shoot, shoot, melee

    • @knyt0
      @knyt0 Месяц назад +2

      @@wasabebo8334 you do insta drill, you press primary+melee+dash in nearly the same instant. Unlike genji you can cancel your melee with dash (something they removed from genji in 2016 because it was too op funnily enough)

    • @LunaireTD
      @LunaireTD Месяц назад

      @@wasabebo8334 the benefit is it's more consistent if you can get up close before hand. The drill dash often sends targets too far away to land the quick melee

  • @PoisedHD
    @PoisedHD Месяц назад +33

    imagine if this hero was released before universal heal passive and before health pools increased

    • @PurpleMoon799
      @PurpleMoon799 Месяц назад

      well they probably would've gotten more shields

    • @PoisedHD
      @PoisedHD Месяц назад

      @@PurpleMoon799 as in per ability use or just static shields? both kinda seem much worse gameplay wise, personally very happy

    • @AnimeOtaku56.
      @AnimeOtaku56. Месяц назад +6

      If you look at the early gameplay footage venture actually had 250 hp. At the time I thought venture was just gonna be a 250 hp hero like Mei and reaper, but the devs actually leaked the change before we knew about it.

  • @SynchroFPS
    @SynchroFPS Месяц назад +15

    I used to main genji/tracer/doom, I then became a tracer 1 trick in ow2. I have to say, Venture might be the most fun character since Tracer.

  • @Oguh608
    @Oguh608 Месяц назад +9

    Feels like Venture does Reapers job but better. More survivability and stronger up close burst damage. Ventures survivability makes Venture a little OP in those moments. Venture can constantly harass the backline with very little risk. The only thing that Venture does worse is tank damage.

    • @AntLeonardi01
      @AntLeonardi01 Месяц назад +3

      There is risk though. You need to manage cooldowns perfectly and not get CC. I think she’s a lot weaker than people think.

    • @Oguh608
      @Oguh608 Месяц назад

      @@AntLeonardi01 For sure. It's not brain dead gameplay atleast. You actually have to be prettt good at the game to pull it off consistently. It's still really good tho. If you manage your cd's well you can be really hard to catch.

    • @Luciferthekingofpurgitory
      @Luciferthekingofpurgitory Месяц назад

      Venture requires more skill then reaper and they have two different jobs reaper kills tanks amazingly but against most tanks venture is useless

  • @ruisu5849
    @ruisu5849 Месяц назад +22

    so keep running it down and use all abilites to engage? got it.

  • @gzmgavin0729
    @gzmgavin0729 23 дня назад +2

    This video helped me so, so much at getting a better grasp of what my role is on Venture. I have been too obsessed with actually trying to secure the eliminations when I go in, but after this video I've been playing more to just threaten their team and it has worked wonderfully. I've also adapted spamming more into my playstyle and it has given me so much more value, especially if it's at a point in time where I have no need to go in. Before watching this, I'd have a lot more deaths than I think I needed for the returned kills I got. I just played a game where I was 35-3. Playing more for pressure, as well as spamming and occasionally staying in the backline behind the enemy team has helped me a ton. Thanks!

  • @josephreynolds2401
    @josephreynolds2401 Месяц назад +5

    The chapter splits are incredible thanks spillo

  • @Enkinanna
    @Enkinanna Месяц назад +6

    My favorite thing about venture is that they make pharah and cass relevant characters lol
    They are pretty dang fun to play as well tho

  • @myseglis
    @myseglis Месяц назад +1

    This is the first time where I actually knew all the tips and playstyle, makes me really happy that I understood all of this on my own in my gamesense learning journey! Love the jazz in the background btw.

  • @Falconwing66
    @Falconwing66 Месяц назад +3

    I was on Circuit Royale second checkpoint attack. The doom was much further than his team so I used the “deep dash” to intimidate the squishies following him. By the time they refocused my team had killed the doom and mopped up the arriving squishies.

  • @greghahn8337
    @greghahn8337 29 дней назад +1

    I just tried Venture for one day and I've already decided they're my new main. The kit works SO WELL with how I want to play. This is the first time I've ever felt instantly attached to a character's playstyle. I was doing everything you were talking about without even thinking about it.

  • @IamHopeman47
    @IamHopeman47 Месяц назад +1

    I really like the self-review guide style. Very helpful and tangible!

  • @mmbla
    @mmbla Месяц назад

    Great Video! Thank You!

  • @BroBruhBruv
    @BroBruhBruv Месяц назад

    This vid helped a lot. Thanks!

  • @hcmcourt4490
    @hcmcourt4490 Месяц назад +16

    Yakuza 0 & Skullgirls background music? 10 points to you sir

  • @slycat7920
    @slycat7920 3 дня назад

    thank you for the guide

  • @MasterPigeonXD
    @MasterPigeonXD Месяц назад +1

    Video summary:
    1) have a way to get out (either of your cds), ideally escaping to high ground
    1a) dont underestimate the distraction you create
    2) use cover, like with ALL characters
    3) respect cc and flyers

  • @pastromer8552
    @pastromer8552 Месяц назад +4

    the character really is a revised dps doom

  • @insomniostudios4359
    @insomniostudios4359 Месяц назад +4

    Skullgirls ost used as bgm 🗣

  • @masterchiefyoumind
    @masterchiefyoumind Месяц назад

    Spilo drill dash is like Genji dash I love it

  • @astupidlylongnamethatstoolong
    @astupidlylongnamethatstoolong Месяц назад

    Actually might be what im missing. Knowing when to transition in and out of spam or committing properly, I keep trying to do the full combo and go for a trade on Ana/Zen which isnt always = in value.

  • @KKJazz
    @KKJazz Месяц назад +1

    You should do an OW2 new character tier list in terms of character design

  • @gabriellarsen4153
    @gabriellarsen4153 Месяц назад +1

    I can dig that!

  • @Modernsour19
    @Modernsour19 27 дней назад

    I love playing venture like a pseudo tank and focusing gathering attention and helping my tank take space

  • @br1mdaddy
    @br1mdaddy Месяц назад +1

    Venture release was GROUND-BREAKING💀💀💀💀

  • @0uas
    @0uas 7 дней назад

    I like her. She is like a second tank. Granted I'm in silver, but people be afraid of her, I feel like I'm not allowing my team to play when I play her sometimes.

  • @shaidied1828
    @shaidied1828 Месяц назад +1

    If anyone else is a jump spammer like me I highly recommend turning off the jump to exit burrow in settings, I kept fat fingering it and dying

  • @metazeen
    @metazeen Месяц назад

    Spilo how do you feel about constantly trading with her like old doomfist? 9/10 times you'll get back faster so worth?

  • @shoppingcart238
    @shoppingcart238 Месяц назад +4

    The bg music is actually a 10/10
    Ive had to go back a few times ngl...

  • @zora508
    @zora508 Месяц назад

    I still think venture needs some adjustments. Maybe make the one shot possible but harder and in return reduce the movements cooldown so they feel smoother

    • @ReaveIdono
      @ReaveIdono Месяц назад +1

      Her movements already feel smooth to me.

  • @ArthaCel
    @ArthaCel Месяц назад

    Which are bad maps to play Venture?

  • @LuisCabrera-sp1wj
    @LuisCabrera-sp1wj 3 дня назад

    After the nerfs is everything still the same?

  • @ginpachi1
    @ginpachi1 Месяц назад +1

    I don’t know what kind of match this is, but Rein vs Rein?!?! 😂😂😂

  • @SIMPLYDEVON
    @SIMPLYDEVON Месяц назад +1

    now how to shut venture down

  • @auroraphoenix1012
    @auroraphoenix1012 Месяц назад

    10:24

  • @itscthuwu5125
    @itscthuwu5125 Месяц назад

    This guide is so legit, I am winning so many more games now in solo queue, thank you sir!

  • @br1mdaddy
    @br1mdaddy Месяц назад +1

    Bro is filming the vid right after shower

  • @Poopkipp
    @Poopkipp Месяц назад

    the jazz is a nice touch 😂

  • @ducasse8473
    @ducasse8473 Месяц назад

    patch dropped. gonna need a new guide chief. STAT

  • @kayanono
    @kayanono Месяц назад

    Hate the recent nerfs..

  • @BagelBoi4000
    @BagelBoi4000 Месяц назад +2

    Hehehehehe ground breaking

  • @Punchbadguy
    @Punchbadguy Месяц назад +1

    Lowkey I feel like one thing they can do is lower the power of drill dash but add a second charge to it (like rein firestrike). This could fix the issue of not having enough cooldowns whilst not being able to one shot combo (at least as easily) someone and get out for free.

  • @its_lucky252
    @its_lucky252 Месяц назад

    another ability would be so damn nice

  • @wabingus
    @wabingus Месяц назад +6

    the most important thing to remember when playing venture is to not forget your ear plugs

  • @breaknet
    @breaknet Месяц назад +4

    I like how this indirectly makes cass more useful. He needed some love 😢

    • @notcharles625
      @notcharles625 Месяц назад +2

      Cass is classless put him in the dungeon

    • @josephreynolds2401
      @josephreynolds2401 Месяц назад +3

      Fix the grenade. He really needs skill outplay, a rewarding skill to land would feel less cheesy for the oppo and push him towards a higher skill floor. He feels like a "checkers" hero with mag nade tbh, even worse than old flashbang.

    • @notcharles625
      @notcharles625 Месяц назад

      @@josephreynolds2401 yes fuck that ability to hell

    • @s--b
      @s--b Месяц назад +3

      No he didn’t

    • @abudgie6909
      @abudgie6909 Месяц назад

      As a winston main, no thanks. Cass has his stupid nade and his stupid right click spam and it's just so painful to play against. He's basically reaper with CC.

  • @joeburch6754
    @joeburch6754 Месяц назад +1

    skullgirls music in the background ratJAM ratJAM

  • @ForbidenXShadow
    @ForbidenXShadow Месяц назад +1

    Nah if I’m not shooting tank 24/7 my team just reports me, idk about all the off angle mumbo jumbo

    • @Phobie_2008
      @Phobie_2008 Месяц назад +5

      You must be in bronze.

  • @ScepticalBanana
    @ScepticalBanana Месяц назад +8

    Why couldn't DPS doomfist exist in ow2 but venture can? The burrow are just an better version of uppercut and the drill is Rocket punch. I remember they said it was too much displacement and CC in his kit, yet she delivers same amount of displacement and burst as old doom. Anyways, happy to have an similar DPS in the game again.

    • @pyrrhos8175
      @pyrrhos8175 Месяц назад +9

      They don't randomly appear from the sky or hard juggle out of responding movement. Venture's also less tanky on successful hits and while also combo assassination focused, is far less mobile for both engage and disengage.
      I loved old Doom but he had far more options of approach than Venture ever will. Tank Doom also has really grown on many over time and better suits his power fantasy (even if he should get his shoryu back in some more counterplayable form).

  • @AmatJo
    @AmatJo Месяц назад +2

    thanks for the guide but so is it they or she? im confused because i keep seeing different pronouns. on some websites like owboost it's they. but then on others it's she. can anyone help?

    • @funkuro
      @funkuro Месяц назад +6

      It’s they. People will make mistakes and it’s good just to remind them.

    • @brainandforce
      @brainandforce Месяц назад +4

      They/them.

  • @ultraviolenc3
    @ultraviolenc3 Месяц назад +6

    Personally I dont like their design. Its highly mobile character, has one shot combo on cd, if they hit their abilities the hp goes up to 325, and they have invulnerability. Whenever any character combines in them all 4 of these properties, I think its really bad design.

    • @breaknet
      @breaknet Месяц назад +4

      Playing support against them is a pain. I can’t play the game if there is a decent venture on the other team. I’m forced to swap to Kiri or Moira so I can escape.

    • @Elemaphant
      @Elemaphant Месяц назад +4

      all of the right click is like -200 hp if they land it (which isnt hard at all), ive died to drill when venture isnt even looking at me, kinda nuts

    • @sirgarde2293
      @sirgarde2293 Месяц назад

      @@Elemaphant It's 100 damage if they hit it at point blank, does less damage the further away they start it.

    • @Elemaphant
      @Elemaphant Месяц назад

      @@sirgarde2293 ah right mustve been lmb/melee/rmb combo that did that then

  • @ZoneOutWay2
    @ZoneOutWay2 Месяц назад +1

    I hear skullgirls music 😭🔥

  • @BhopVauv
    @BhopVauv Месяц назад +1

    Fun hero but way too low skill with too much burst and survivability

  • @swampog6252
    @swampog6252 Месяц назад

    Zz character

  • @SteelSquishy
    @SteelSquishy 18 дней назад

    You kinda make alot of mistakes

  • @AntLeonardi01
    @AntLeonardi01 Месяц назад

    She’s okay. A better reaper basically. Not sure why she got such heavy nerfs today. There are very obvious built in weaknesses to the character.

  • @chill5721
    @chill5721 Месяц назад

    Is it he or she?

  • @MeanTeletubbie
    @MeanTeletubbie Месяц назад +3

    awful character fuck that shit. It gets stupid value with a get out of jail free card like old sombra

    • @Phobie_2008
      @Phobie_2008 Месяц назад +4

      Venture is NOWHERE near as bad as old sombra. Gigantic skill issue my guy.

    • @hackfeatherstep9955
      @hackfeatherstep9955 Месяц назад +3

      Massive skill issue “get out of jail” my ass with that massive punishable windup animation (that you seem to be failing at punishing somehow?) learn to aim

  • @afterthought9538
    @afterthought9538 Месяц назад +2

    Sorry, Spilo. This hero is everything the playerbase hates all rolled into one. Immortality, one-shot combo (which would be fine except for the fact that you can't escape it once youre caught in it), and CC = lack of individual counterplay as anything but a hero with CC of their own. This hero is terribly designed and is no fun to play against. Feels like getting map-edged in a fighting game. Absolutely terrible.

  • @DestroyerOfDoom
    @DestroyerOfDoom Месяц назад

    Needs to be nerfed. You cant do anything when she just decides she wants you dead

    • @QueensShield
      @QueensShield Месяц назад +3

      Eh, i think you can deal with them fairly easily as long as you have a movement ability or a cc, they are even easier to punish then someone like genji imo

  • @ryanh4975
    @ryanh4975 Месяц назад

    Brain dead hero. You can push forward and use all your cooldowns without any care, more than likely get a kill, and still get out alive.

    • @meat.
      @meat. Месяц назад

      should be easy for you to wreck top 500 with venture then!

    • @ryanh4975
      @ryanh4975 Месяц назад

      enjoy the nerf today. 😌

  • @drkirbkennethkirby7634
    @drkirbkennethkirby7634 Месяц назад

    She's too oppressive in too many ways, and too counterable in other ways

  • @mapling360
    @mapling360 Месяц назад

    oh hey its finally here