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Just bought the C3 based on your (and others') review. I was astonished by the speed, comfort and build quality! Used a Hario hand grinder before and I literally said "No way, you're kidding!" out loud after the first grind, because it was done grinding so quickly. I use it for pour over mainly, not espresso. Really happy I went for this one, and not a cheap electric grinder (loud, ugly, quickly dirty). Can recommend it to anyone!
I just bought a Timemore ESP and absolutely love it. It’s currently set to 21 clicks and makes beautifully uniform espresso grounds. Excellent grip, butter smooth movement, high quality components, and grinds quickly and easily.
For those grinding for espresso, its definitely worth upgrading to the Timemore ESP for the upgraded construction and more importantly, getting the finer E & B grind burr that cuts the grind time to about half the time compared to the C3. Grinding 10g of fine espresso grounds on 21 clicks takes me ~19 seconds on average. I paid $119 for the ESP and feel that it was definitely worth the money and produces grinds comparable to $350-$400 electric grinders.
I bought one based on your recommendation on the C2 and I've been really happy with it as an upgrade from Hario Skerton Pro. Kinda dissapointed that the new burrs, weren't that much of an upgrade. I guess the extra blade reduces the amount of beans that can be ground simultaneously. Maybe that contributes to the better uniformity like how grinding slower or even bean by bean results in better uniformity. Another thing I wondered about was whether or not this new burr set would choke or jerk less? I find that the most unpleasant thing about the Skerton Pro was how it kept doing so. I believe this is an aspect that is being overlooked on the reviews, as to me it heavily affects the enjoyability of actually using the grinder.
i bought one of these to upgrade from my $15 pos. ive been super happy with it. dont have much to compare it too but i love it. i also use an aeropress if that matters
@@coffeechronicler thank you! i mostly do espresso and moka pot. So the C3 burr is a lot faster for that? is it possible to purchase and install the burr for the C3 onto the C2?
Great review, I have the C2 and really happy with the grind result, I use the C2 mostly for pour over, and I was wondering is it worth to upgrade to the C3, but after seeing some review including yours I think it will be better to upgrade to the 1ZPresso JX instead. :-D
I really like my C2 too, but if I were to upgrade I would probably get the k-max. Although it is far more expensive, the difference will likely be more noticeable (both in taste and usability) than the JX. Seems like if you are looking to upgrade you might as well bite the bullet and buy once, instead of buying another one once you think the JX is not cutting it any more. I am sticking with my C2 for the next few years at least, it does the job for me. Incremental upgrades are not worth it for most people imho. Enjoy what you have. There will be something new along next year too.
@@Martin_Edmondson Hmmm... I think you're right. The K Max seems to be better, and if the difference in taste was not really significant between the C2 and the JX maybe it's worth to consider the K Max or maybe second hand C40 haha... :-D I'll stick with my C2 too for now.
It’s unfortunate that the C3 lid is not upgraded to metal because several C2 users had reported that the lid of their C2 had cracked into pieces while in use.
I’m the body of the review you said the C3 is one minute faster grinding espresso, and in the conclusion you said the C3 is considerably slower than the C2
Have you tried the Chestnut X? you mentioned that the s2c burrs in the C3 are different, curious how different and if you like the flavor profile from the X. Couldn't find a review on your site.
From some other youtuber reviews, the Normcore V2 has better particle distribution compared to the C2 and produce a little less fines, in the other hand the C3 also better in particle distribution compared to the C2, but produce a little bit more fines.
Thank you for the review! A question: In your opinion, which manual grinder (regardless of price) is best suited for extra-fine grinding required for Turkish-style coffee? Thank you.
I watched your vid earlier today On the picopresso. I eneded up ordering one! Will this grind fine enough for it. Just getting into this and to be able to manually run everything and not wake my kids on a Saturday morning makes me salivate almost as much as a good cup first thing.
Thanks for the reply! I'm currently looking at the c3 pro. Which click setting are you using for the picopresso? Just subbed thanks for the thorough content!
What do you think of X Lite? Some guys on Korean coffee community website say X Lite is the best grinder for filter on the market right now(it can compete with commandante or Kinu and whatnot) . I believe the main difference with c3 is the burr diameter, so I'm a bit surprised about x Lite being way better than C3.
I think that might be an exaggeration, but it should be quite consistent, even more than Chestnut X. The main downside is that it's supposed to be incredibly slow for grinding filter coffee.
Japanese coffee reviewers also say that X lite produces surprisingly less fines and it's the best grinder. But the reviews they do is a bit questionable.
I have no idea why, but when I tried grinding for espresso with my C3 on the 8th setting it took me almost an hour of grinding and I still gave up. Out of the 18 grams I started, I was able to get out about 11.5 grams before giving up :/
Interesting, I have a JX Pro as my main hand grinder, but thinking of building a travel set up. Was thinking to pick up the 1zpresso q2 or The Timemore Nano but thought that for the performance these 2 might be a bit too pricey for a travel grinder. Would you recommend the C3 as opposed to say the Slim? As judging from the pictures the Slim and the C series seem to have similar dimension? Also for something like the Picopresso, is the C3 good enough? Or should I just Use something like an aeropress + Fellow prismo instead? Thanks! Lovely videos.
@@coffeechronicler Thanks for replying! Would you recommend The C3 over the Slim for travel? Which do you think is better for travel & picopresso? Judging by how you have used the 2 models.
@@Raditram The Slim is a bit lighter than the C3 and feels more nimble, so would probably pick that one. Think I also like the espresso from it a bit more.
One cause could be that the adjustment wheel at the bottom is locked too tight. Or perhaps the wrong order of assembly, so something is blocking it inside.
Considering moka pot and espresso only, would there be a noticeable difference between timemore C3 and Comandante? I heard Comandante doesn't shine in espresso
@@coffeechronicler Thank you! But is it’s triple in quality or just a touch? I really can invest in either one but I try to spend my money wisely with a good enough result ;)
@@Netcom27 If you're mostly drinking darker roasts, there's not much difference. However, if you have the budget for a premium, grinder, then I'd opt for 1Zpresso K-Max instead. Much nicer UX.
@@coffeechronicler true, pity thought c3 is slower, i dont know if get c2 max or rather safevup a bit and get 1zpresso jx, pity couldnt find any good prime deal on it
C3 used the S2C burr (the similar burr they used on their flagship model Timemore X) but scaled down with smaller grind range settings and C2's style plastic central Shaft in order to reduce cost and weight. It looks a bit different than Timemore Slim's E&B burr but I read the performance was somewhat close to it.
@@coffeechronicler i have though decision to make, choose new c3 for 71$ or second hand 1z Q2 for 86$. The Q2 have more precisely dial steps, but did it is that crucial for AP and Moka 🤔 what u would recommend save money and have new one or buy second hand? Regards.
I am looking for my first upgrade from a Hario Skerton for 100 Euro max. It should fit 30g and I exclusively do filter coffee, so no need for it to manage espresso grinding. Which grinder do you recommend?
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Just bought the C3 based on your (and others') review. I was astonished by the speed, comfort and build quality! Used a Hario hand grinder before and I literally said "No way, you're kidding!" out loud after the first grind, because it was done grinding so quickly. I use it for pour over mainly, not espresso. Really happy I went for this one, and not a cheap electric grinder (loud, ugly, quickly dirty). Can recommend it to anyone!
I just bought a Timemore ESP and absolutely love it. It’s currently set to 21 clicks and makes beautifully uniform espresso grounds. Excellent grip, butter smooth movement, high quality components, and grinds quickly and easily.
For those grinding for espresso, its definitely worth upgrading to the Timemore ESP for the upgraded construction and more importantly, getting the finer E & B grind burr that cuts the grind time to about half the time compared to the C3. Grinding 10g of fine espresso grounds on 21 clicks takes me ~19 seconds on average. I paid $119 for the ESP and feel that it was definitely worth the money and produces grinds comparable to $350-$400 electric grinders.
If I get the ESP version can I use it for Aeropress too?
@@kristiyanvelikov9253 I don’t see why not 👍🏼
is it sutable for open baskets for espreso
@@jackmesiha960 it works for me for multiple applications so I’d say yes 👍🏼
There's a blunder in the video: C3 weighs in at 473 grams, NOT 423g 😬
Can you provide a link for the step adjustment plate for the slim plus?
there is updated c2 with steel adjusting knob
Just got a C2 today (Jan 2024) and a confirm the grind dial setting is metal, not plastic. So I think they upgraded the C2 for some reason.
I bought one based on your recommendation on the C2 and I've been really happy with it as an upgrade from Hario Skerton Pro. Kinda dissapointed that the new burrs, weren't that much of an upgrade. I guess the extra blade reduces the amount of beans that can be ground simultaneously. Maybe that contributes to the better uniformity like how grinding slower or even bean by bean results in better uniformity.
Another thing I wondered about was whether or not this new burr set would choke or jerk less? I find that the most unpleasant thing about the Skerton Pro was how it kept doing so. I believe this is an aspect that is being overlooked on the reviews, as to me it heavily affects the enjoyability of actually using the grinder.
i bought one of these to upgrade from my $15 pos. ive been super happy with it. dont have much to compare it too but i love it. i also use an aeropress if that matters
It’s not worth for an upgrade. What if a new purchase would it better to go with C2 with a $10 cheaper price?
You should do another one because there's now so many Timemore C3, C3S, C3S Pro, C3 ESP, and some of them also have Max variant of it
The C3 is slower than the C2, but faster for espresso grind? Did I understand right? Sounds contradictory.
Sounds weird, but yes. It's due to the burr design of C2 not being able to feed well when inner cone and outer burr are close together.
@@coffeechronicler thank you! i mostly do espresso and moka pot. So the C3 burr is a lot faster for that? is it possible to purchase and install the burr for the C3 onto the C2?
For paper filter, any recommendations for the "click" level? Thanks for the review. It helps a lot
I think on the adjustment wheel it suggests 12-14 for pour over if that's what you mean.
Which is easier and faster during grinding? C2 or C3?
Great review, I have the C2 and really happy with the grind result, I use the C2 mostly for pour over, and I was wondering is it worth to upgrade to the C3, but after seeing some review including yours I think it will be better to upgrade to the 1ZPresso JX instead. :-D
I really like my C2 too, but if I were to upgrade I would probably get the k-max.
Although it is far more expensive, the difference will likely be more noticeable (both in taste and usability) than the JX.
Seems like if you are looking to upgrade you might as well bite the bullet and buy once, instead of buying another one once you think the JX is not cutting it any more.
I am sticking with my C2 for the next few years at least, it does the job for me. Incremental upgrades are not worth it for most people imho. Enjoy what you have. There will be something new along next year too.
@@Martin_Edmondson
Hmmm... I think you're right. The K Max seems to be better, and if the difference in taste was not really significant between the C2 and the JX maybe it's worth to consider the K Max or maybe second hand C40 haha... :-D
I'll stick with my C2 too for now.
@@Martin_Edmondson I did exactly what you say )
and to say true, there are not Huge difference in taste
but I've upgraded my c2
It’s unfortunate that the C3 lid is not upgraded to metal because several C2 users had reported that the lid of their C2 had cracked into pieces while in use.
does the C2 upgraded version has a metal lid ??
@@ppn7 No idea as I had gone for the C3 model.
I think the C3 Pro is all metal, including the lid.
upgraded c2 fold has a metal lid
I’m the body of the review you said the C3 is one minute faster grinding espresso, and in the conclusion you said the C3 is considerably slower than the C2
Slower for drip, faster for espresso
@@coffeechronicler thanks for the clarification. I got the C3 yesterday. Definitely a nice grinder IMO.
Have you tried the Chestnut X? you mentioned that the s2c burrs in the C3 are different, curious how different and if you like the flavor profile from the X. Couldn't find a review on your site.
Hej, You have C3 or C3 espresso?:)
Don't you find the squeezing noise annoying when opening the bottom container?
Great video. Already own Jx pro, but thinking of getting one more to put in office. How would you compare C3 with Normcore v2?
Haven't tried Normcore v2, but suspect the burrs are very similar
From some other youtuber reviews, the Normcore V2 has better particle distribution compared to the C2 and produce a little less fines, in the other hand the C3 also better in particle distribution compared to the C2, but produce a little bit more fines.
Thank you for the review! A question: In your opinion, which manual grinder (regardless of price) is best suited for extra-fine grinding required for Turkish-style coffee? Thank you.
Sorry, don't know anything about Turkish coffee. My guess is 1zpresso K-Max would work well.
A mortar and a pestle. It takes me about 15 minutes to grind 15g of beans extra fine.
Sözen değirmen :))
i dont know what to get can someone please help me what is better kingrinder k6 or the C3 Timemore? (i will be making espressos more often)
Thanks for the review! Is the grounds catcher still a screw on, or is it magnetic now?
Still screw, unfortunately
Hello, for the same price do you think the Slim Plus is a better purchase then the C3? I use light roast over v60 and Hario Skerton Plus right now.
Can you help me find the aftermarket Slim Plus adjustment system? Would love to achieve higher resolution.
Hi! the user manual states it has 20 clicks. Can I adjust the setting to a higher number of clicks? For example 24
Yes, no problem. You can go as fine or coarse as you need.
How to use it?
So is it worth it to just buy the C2 because it's faster, considering I would just stick to v60? It's only sligthly cheaper where I live.
Hey! Great review thanks. What brewer is on the video at 5:30? Gabi a?
Thanks. Yes, Gabi A.
What do you mean the burrs are slower? Took you 36 seconds to grind!! What's fast then, how much on the c2?
Really fast ones such as C2 and some models from 1Zpresso will do it in 25 seconds
Pls review C3 esp, thanks.
I watched your vid earlier today
On the picopresso. I eneded up ordering one! Will this grind fine enough for it. Just getting into this and to be able to manually run everything and not wake my kids on a Saturday morning makes me salivate almost as much as a good cup first thing.
Yes, it can grind fine enough!
Thanks for the reply! I'm currently looking at the c3 pro. Which click setting are you using for the picopresso? Just subbed thanks for the thorough content!
Bro, when the grinder arrives, do we have to wash it before using it for the first time?
No, that will harm the grinder. Run a bag of old coffee through it, that will "clean" it.
@@coffeechronicler thank you
What do you think of X Lite? Some guys on Korean coffee community website say X Lite is the best grinder for filter on the market right now(it can compete with commandante or Kinu and whatnot) . I believe the main difference with c3 is the burr diameter, so I'm a bit surprised about x Lite being way better than C3.
I think that might be an exaggeration, but it should be quite consistent, even more than Chestnut X. The main downside is that it's supposed to be incredibly slow for grinding filter coffee.
Thanks for the clear up!
I heard about the X Lite only a few weeks ago, but I haven't seen photos of the burrs or other internals. What's the changes compared to the C2?
Japanese coffee reviewers also say that X lite produces surprisingly less fines and it's the best grinder.
But the reviews they do is a bit questionable.
I’m planning to upgrade my c2 burr, which one should you recommend between the E&B or the S2C?
Did you take the test?
I have no idea why, but when I tried grinding for espresso with my C3 on the 8th setting it took me almost an hour of grinding and I still gave up. Out of the 18 grams I started, I was able to get out about 11.5 grams before giving up :/
Sure it's not C2 then? That one could take forever.
what you recomend c2 / c3?. i am newbie
Interesting, I have a JX Pro as my main hand grinder, but thinking of building a travel set up. Was thinking to pick up the 1zpresso q2 or The Timemore Nano but thought that for the performance these 2 might be a bit too pricey for a travel grinder. Would you recommend the C3 as opposed to say the Slim? As judging from the pictures the Slim and the C series seem to have similar dimension? Also for something like the Picopresso, is the C3 good enough? Or should I just Use something like an aeropress + Fellow prismo instead? Thanks! Lovely videos.
C3 would work fine for Picopresso and I can see it being a decent travel grinder. Nano and Q2 are smaller but it's not a huge difference
@@coffeechronicler Thanks for replying! Would you recommend The C3 over the Slim for travel? Which do you think is better for travel & picopresso? Judging by how you have used the 2 models.
@@Raditram The Slim is a bit lighter than the C3 and feels more nimble, so would probably pick that one. Think I also like the espresso from it a bit more.
@@coffeechronicler Awesome! Thanks for your input, would definitely consider this.
Hi, I just bought my C3 and it doesn't spin at all, no matter how much force (or torque) I use, the handle doesn't spin - do you know why?
One cause could be that the adjustment wheel at the bottom is locked too tight. Or perhaps the wrong order of assembly, so something is blocking it inside.
Thanks. Would it be worth just buying the new burr set and put in the C2? Does it fit?
Did you make this test?
No.. I sold my C2 and I spent basically the same money of the burr and did an update to another grinder.. Kafede Kona M2 Pro. I'm not disappointed!
Considering moka pot and espresso only, would there be a noticeable difference between timemore C3 and Comandante? I heard Comandante doesn't shine in espresso
Flavor-wise C40 is quite good for espresso and also better than C3, but UX is about the same for the two.
@@coffeechronicler Thank you! But is it’s triple in quality or just a touch? I really can invest in either one but I try to spend my money wisely with a good enough result ;)
@@Netcom27 If you're mostly drinking darker roasts, there's not much difference. However, if you have the budget for a premium, grinder, then I'd opt for 1Zpresso K-Max instead. Much nicer UX.
for espresso, do you prefer c3 with s2c burr or slim plus with e&b burr? thank youu 😊
Like Slim Plus a bit more for speed and slightly better taste
@@coffeechronicler thank youu! 😊😊
Would you recommend it over c2max?
Well, depends on the capacity you need. But there will probably be a C3 Max soon
@@coffeechronicler true, pity thought c3 is slower, i dont know if get c2 max or rather safevup a bit and get 1zpresso jx, pity couldnt find any good prime deal on it
@@user-gx9wt7dn3t I would probably save up for the Jx then. Then you get a bit more of everything.
Is the burrs same as the earlier e&b burr ?
C3 used the S2C burr (the similar burr they used on their flagship model Timemore X) but scaled down with smaller grind range settings and C2's style plastic central Shaft in order to reduce cost and weight.
It looks a bit different than Timemore Slim's E&B burr but I read the performance was somewhat close to it.
What would you say is the better grinder the timemore C3 or the new 1zpresso Q2. ?
New Q2
@@coffeechronicler i have though decision to make, choose new c3 for 71$ or second hand 1z Q2 for 86$. The Q2 have more precisely dial steps, but did it is that crucial for AP and Moka 🤔 what u would recommend save money and have new one or buy second hand?
Regards.
I am looking for my first upgrade from a Hario Skerton for 100 Euro max. It should fit 30g and I exclusively do filter coffee, so no need for it to manage espresso grinding. Which grinder do you recommend?
C2 would be a good bet. Or even better the newly updated 1zpresso Q2.
@@coffeechronicler thanks the 1zpresso Q2 does not fit 30g though, does it?
@@coffeechroniclerover the c3?
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Not my favorite burr set, kinda muddy and slow to grind.
Can i use a power tool to grind?