Funniest thing is British get nefted from how well we are doing because the people who consistently play British Ground RB are the only one who were willing enough to learn the mechanics and capitalise on it. the Lynx's manification is nefted because they wanted to sell Rooivalk. AH Mk. 1 and other variants are missing their IRCM and IR shields but those modifications exist in Russian KA-52 and Mi-28NM. Starstreak is supposed to reach Mach 3 and not have a cap of Mach 1 on speed. Chally 2's manlet is poorly modeled in which results in less protection.
Gaijin butchered a lot, like the fact the M26 Pershing, T26E5, and Super Pershing are all 6.7 despite each being a subsequent upgrade on the last. It makes zero sense.
@@DistinguishedCanuck The American 7.0s are a FKING joke. The Sheridan is the only vehicle worth getting. M103? garbage. Just Sheridan and all the light tanks and TD and then to the Abrams. They are not even close to their competitors in performance in a game like this.
I somehow had the mental fortitude to grind out the UK when there was only a single Chally 2, no South Africa, and no ADATS. Somehow I've managed to keep on top of having the tree completed (UGH). I'm convinced Gaijin has an unwritten rule stating that "Britain will never have its moment in the sun". Even the air tree tends to be viciously underwhelming considering the pedigree. Yet, the biggest shocker of them all is that the Royal Navy is woefully impotent (for the most part)- that's just bloody rude lol.
As a naval player sadly I agree. Their destroyers are fun but weirdly fragile. They have a lot of pretty good frigates and high level coasts which in turn sadly have zero place in the current meta
@@jacksonespeut3692 ya, I have a sneaking suspicion that by the time a Nelson, Repulse, Warspite, or Prince of Wales shows up it will be in the same patch as an Iowa or Yamato class which would effectively keep the tree out of the meta if not mark those ships as DOA.
99% of the time the British tanks aren't actually that bad, it's just the map design and the massive amount of "overtiering" that occurs in the tech trees that makes them look awful. I find it hilarious that guns that were designed to eat WW2 German and later Cold War Russian tanks were nerfed because they were doing exactly that. I take great satisfaction in having obtained nukes in several of the tech tree vehicles because of how rough Britain gets it, my first nuke was in the Ratel 90 on Mozdok ffs xD
1:22:05 I am a warrior gunner IRL and I can tell you that it could be so much worse. If you fire all 6 rounds you have to do a complete unload and reload which takes over 30 seconds to do, you have to fire 3 rounds, insert a new clip, rinse and repeat. If you fire 4 rounds and load a new clip you have a gap in feed and the 30 second reload starts again. The none stabilised gun irl is worthless on the move, you may as well strap the cannon to a speed boat, you’d have about the same accuracy. What’s funny is that it actually has a stabilised sight but you can only use it in “surveillance mode” it’s just a big fat tease I’ve just completed an exercise with the Prince of wales so I’m basically the most important person on the internet also 😂 Anyway time to go leak warrior documents
I know the British wanted it to work even after a nuke went off but come on like the 2 most basic things that IFV's had at the time including Russian BMP-2 and 3 which is an automatic loading system and a stabilized gun, but they couldn't even do that pretty embarrassing imo
@@meepthunder8060 I know that why i said "I know they wanted it to work even after a nuke went off" but even then i don't understand their logic if a nuke went off a IFV wouldn't be much good because that probably means that the world will be fucked
Britain is by no means a bad tree, but it's greatly held back by nerfing and overtiering from gaijin. They claim it's because if stats that we're not allowed access to, but the reason the stats are so high for British vehicles is because the only people who stick with them are the maniacs willing to fight an uphill battle. If they were properly balanced on capability it would bring more players into the tree and lower the overall skill level of British mains, same as when they release a high tier premium it bombs win rates regardless of how good it is. More players means more casuals.
The British tech tree used to be the tech tree for skilled players bored doing well with Americans, Germans, and Russians counterparts. Personally, I love the British tech tree out of heritage and self-loathing. Highlights that I adore are the Daimler gun-go cart, the Crusader III, the Cromwells, the Sherman Fireflies, the Comet I, the Charioteer VII, and the Centurions (yes, even the Mark I). Basically, the cruisers with a few long-range sniping outliers here and there. Favorite support CAS includes the Swordfish (for the memes), the Mosquito FB Mk XVIIIe (speedy flying 6-pounder go brrrr), the premium Thunderbolt, the Wyvern, the Spitfires, and the Hornet Mk. III (last two for exclusively anti-CAS/Counter-air). Give it a try if you want to hone the skills picked up in other tech trees, it’ll make you a more proficient player.
I started with the British Tech tree when I started playing a year and a half ago, been enjoying it, despite the tanks that should be good being shafted by the way the game has been built. I started playing some other tech trees when my crews are locked, and bloody hell, aces every other game. I can play aggressively too, as opposed to having to react to the enemies like in the British tech tree, others get to dictate the flow of a match.
@@agiliteka I think it does make you a better player when you become proficient with British tanks then move on to other tech trees. - High penetration but relatively low post-pen damage guns/rounds force you to become something of a sharpshooter for critical components. - You learn to adapt better to terrain because of the common mobility limitations in the tree. - You learn to rely on positioning rather than armor because of the lackluster protection in most British tanks. - Nifty cruisers like Crusaders, Cromwells, and Comets accommodate the need for speed in the shoot-and-scoot lads. - Excellent Close Air Support options (Typhoons, Wyvern, early Mossie, Spits for counter CAS, etc.) to help mitigate costs. Main-lining the British tech tree is like training with wooden weapons that are twice the weight of their steel counterparts. Sure, it can be wonky and frustrating and may even cause unintentional injury but it betters the player. It embodies the “plucky Brit” sort of character that seems to permeate British military history. Despite its shortcomings, it’s my favorite tech tree by far.
Just started playing recently, put maybe 20h in, all Britain, no premiums. I wouldn't call it fun, but it can sometimes resemble fun in the right match. That being said, I feel a great sense of tranquility when I play. Of course every US, German and Russian tank can one-shot me, and my solid shot does nothing. That's the game, apparently. No rage, no salt - I expect to get (at best) a neutral K/D. It's very zen. Can't get angry about losing if you never expected to win. Glad to hear that it only gets worse at the higher tiers. I thought 2.7 / 3.3 was bad, but apparently that's just a warm-up.
I'm convinced if we had better/bigger maps, the British would be competent. Every time I'm in a city map at tier 6, I just spawn as the warrior. Especially when everything can 1 shot you, and you often need to place 2 shots on tanks to get a kill.
Fun fact, the Polish Firefly actually isn't a carbon copy of the tech tree Firefly. Unlike the tech tree version, the Polish tank uses the standard non-lengthened Sherman hull and the old radial engine as opposed to the famous 5 welded-together bus engines. In theory this should make the Polish Firefly a bit slower, but since they didn't have to extend the hull it's also a lot lighter, resulting in a power/weight ratio that's ever so slightly better than the tech tree Firefly, at the cost of more recoil.
As I keep watching the video, I'm really finding my opinions differ quite a bit from Sako. I love the Churchill tanks. Guns aren't great, but armour is fantastic, allowing you to bounce shots while you aim for weak spots. Same playstyle as the Jumbo for me.
When you learn how to use the Archer its actually amazing, played defensively its a neat tank destroyer that unlike any other British tank can actually escape superior enemy forces without having to turn around first since its already set to drive in the direction awa from the enemy. And IRL it was actually quite noted for this ability by its crews, who appreciated being able to shoot and scoot away to the next defensive position rather than getting caught by the Panzers while turning around. Also I’ll defend the 3 inch gun carrier since its got stupendous amounts of armour with angling, so it absolutely chews up many of the light tanks that get spammed about in the 1.7-3.7 range
👍. Gaijin just give the British tree a huge handy-cap, but yet give the ussr tree the advantage. Has been since day one & wont change. But it will get worse. As they have proven.
Ratel 90 is one of my most played vehicles in the game when it was 6.0. Sure it's huge but the gun is uptier proof. The Warrior has been the biggest surprise in the game for me. Its mobility is better than a Marder and it carries twice as many ATGMS. The fire rate is abysmal on the 30mm cannon but it hits hard enough.
Thank you man, as a british main still going through the ground tree tbis has helped me further understand that I should have chosen a different tech tree as the sherman firefly should not have enticed me enough to have spent 1000 hours on this snail forsaken tech tree, on the postitve note I know know of more humorous vehicles to obtain and I will certantly be spending too much time getting the TES because I think it is funny and the Olifant MK.2 because the super centurion is a rather interesting and humorous idea, thank you for the enjoyment, good humor and ability to stave off the extistental dread.
I have to disagree with your thoughts on the churchill 1, if you angle it and keep it moving it is impenetrable, if you take time with it, it’ll be a fun tank when you learn how to play it
Edit: content since adjusted so thanks to the creator of this very comprehensive video it’s much appreciated! The 1980s was one of the longest periods of Tory rule with not a single labour government. Not to mention the fact that MBT-80 probably the most famous cancelled british land vehicle was initiated in 1979 under Labour Jim Callaghan and cancelled under the Thatcher government. Not only did Thatcher slice apart the Royal Navy, she was also responsible for the privatisation of BAe and British shipbuilders and the subsequent collapse in manufacturing that followed. Now yes Labour have made many terrible defence decisions in the past, the most infamous being the 1966 defence white paper but also some incredible ones like the construction of the Queen Elizabeth class and Operation Journeyman, Jim Callaghans sucessful attempt to prevent an Argentine invasion of the Falklands. But so have the Torys, the 2010 white paper that crippled the navy for decades to come, Thatchers withdrawal of Falklands guard ships and attempted sale of half the navy to Argentina and of course the cancellation of MBT-80 and many other armoured vehicles in the 1980s. We can’t just blame Labour governments for bad defence decisions out of ignorance or carelessness becuase it doesnt send the right message or come across well at all. Messing up defence procurement is a Bipartisan British specialty that both Tory and Labour are responsible for.
Queen Elizabeth class that isn't nuclear powered so costs a fortune to run and had no aircraft for almost a decade because our Harriers were sold to the yanks for scrap lol. Great decisions by the Labour Government there
Seriously, and saying that there hasn't been any investment since? We kept the ACA funded, when every other nation (Germany and Italy) refused to fund it, and it went on to become the Eurofighter. We're a tier 1 manufacturing partner for the F-35, we developed the ASRAAM when other countries dropped out (though Germany did later create the IRIS-T as a result of their initial cooperation) and are paving the way for 6th generation aircraft with FCAS/GCAP/Tempest.
@@szkarat9814 every single project you have just listed is one of collaboration. The British defence industry is still an impressive beast that can play a major role… However it absolutely pales in comparison to the sovereign defence industry of the 1960s. To put it in perspective back then almost every commonwealth nation had former British ships in service, the aviation industry had designed the TSR-2 probably the best aircraft every designed that never saw service, we had just built the Kestrel the preliminary to the harrier and were ready to start building the HS-p1154 a incredible after burning supersonic variant. All while we were also collaborating on the most ambitious civilian airliner project of all time, Concorde. Not being funny mate but BAe now is a shadow compared to the titans that were British Aircraft Corporation, Hawker siddley, Vickers and the hundreds of shipyards in operation.
@@finol6127 I'd argue its unfair to call BAE so simply a shadow compared to previous companies; BAE isn't limited to the UK; it has operations spanning the UK, US, Australia, Sweden & Saudi Arabia. BAE produces the Bradley, AMPV, CV90, Archer, M109, M109A7, just to name a few products. In regards to the ships, Australia and Canada are set to adopt the Type 26, with Australia also planning on adopting the SSN-AUKUS in regards to submarines. To top all of this off, BAE has just recently acquired Ball aerospace. In my opinion, we're doing pretty well, all things considered.
@@szkarat9814 that is true and BAe is currently a successful company however much of its ‘wide spread’ is through subsidiaries that barely even resemble the original company. BAe systems USA is practically its own entity and is a product or modern corporatism, it has very little to do with the actual British state or defence industry and at this point is practically just a name. Same with BAe Australia, everything manufactured down under with ownership tied to Australia not the UK. BAe is much more of a corporate defence business than a national defence industry for the UK.
I remember during the british tank CBT it would regularly be one team of the UK vs everyone else combined, and I dont think we ever lost a single game. There were multiple games we won without the enemy even scoring a single kill.
When I get the urge to play British ground I get shivers when I remember solid shot amo. This vehicles would have been much more fun if you could use APHE or if sold shot would create more spalling.
hey the Russians didn't think that solid shot create more spalling but in IRL solid shot has better pen than soviet APHE because how light the shell is and how unreliable the fuse and the highly insensitive the explosives is.
the conq is probably my favorite in the tree it’s absolute heresy that you think the centurion is mediocre, but at the same time it is criminal how many br increases they’ve suffered
The daimler mk2 is one of the best low tier tank , the crew make up for the turret turning rate and for the mobility is perfectly fine . I play it up to 5.0 and still do well
No love for top tier? Man, you've got 5! Challenger 2s lmao, now granted their armor is absolutely terrible compared to what it is in real life but still. - that's basically every Western (non-Russian or Chinese) MBT
For 5.3 mediums... I hate the comet. It has mobility that is worse than the other option, though not by a lot. The armour is enough to make it harder for planes to strafe kill you, but it's not good enough to make any difference with other tanks. But worst, the gun is significantly worse. The shells have much less penetration, which means that you're essentially forced to use the apds since the apcbc has such little pen. That's my 2 cents anyway, I'll take the challenger or even the avenger any day.
48:58 The Centurion Mk.I got moved back to 6.0, so ever so slightly better then the 6.3 1:00:26 And the G6 Rhino was moved from 7.0 to 6.7 in RB, but very funni to obliterate IS-3's through the side when up-tiered
I think the difficulty in playing British tech tree will make some of the most hardened players in the game, deffo ones you don’t wanna underestimate. but I imagine they’ll somehow fuck this up as well with their clear bias for others
Morning Sako, i love your video's because you're actually more entertaining compared to other war thunder youtubers, because you simply don't give a shit about any sorts of feelings towards any part of the community, for that i love your channel man plus you add on actually good humour towards the tanks not just generic bullshit, hahha sorry as a self-proclaimed Brit in a godforsaken country (South Africa) its definitely a breath of fresh air. so thank you and i hope you're having a wonderful day.
Yeah using britain as a faction is a struggle Light tanks was okay but when i hit Rank 2 Just getting my crusaders, cromwells and valentines 1 shotted by Russian American and German tanks lol
1:17:20 Fun fact: the Olifant Mk2 is in fact not the last centurion, as the TTD is surprisingly based on the Olifant, and therefore by extension based on the Centurion. Very accurate representation of the British TT though: pain, with a few good bits.
@@scopehuzefa7950 What's wrong with it? Stab and 270 pen at 6.7 with a good reload and decent armor, I'd say it's probably the best 6.7 medium. Sure, you need to fire a few shots to take out tanks but that's nothing new in the British tech tree
Centurion is where it starts catch up, I say start, because 1st, centurion is basically only working on it's BR, you got to get to tier 6 to actually start enjoying it... or... just play on BR 1.0 and be happy person. Also, I don't think they don't play their own game, the just play only soviet, they don't like centurions obligerating them, so they just moved them up where they make no sense.
All problem of Britain tree is Gajin. They took main feature of this nation, and made casino of it. I talk about penetration. How u can play conqueror if u bounce from angled carboards?
Daimler Ahmed car someone shot me in the engine I believe it was a tiger, the bullet went straight through the engine and I survived like I couldn’t do anything teammate destroyed the tiger, but I managed to survive a tiger hit in that little car
Oh hey UK tech tree. I'm gonna go right up that tree myself and after the slog fest that is the centurions, I'm having the time of my life with the Oliphant and Khalid. I'll probably stay at 10.0 with the TTD and Challie 2. They seem like fun.
DU is a much more dense metal, compared to tungsten, so for the same shape of dart, it will weigh more. So a DU round fired at the same velocity as a Tungsten round, will penetrate more armour, due to the mass x velocity energy formula
How is Tier 2 a struggle? Use the Archer to get the Churchill gun carrier with 3 inch gun then rush the Churchill I. You even have the (Sherman II) If armoured infantry tanks aren't your thing. I have literally gone through Tier 1 & 2 with the Daimler Mk 2 while AEC AA is underrated.
I hope i dont upset anyone , but this is just my preference: I enjoy playing british tank over soviet ones, never really had problem with lack of HE filler and I really prefer to have good gun handling and nice gun depression which I really did not find at most soviet tanks.
I started with British nation because I wanted Spitfire, but I don’t know why I kept grinding for British. I’m at rank vi right now both ground and air. Already research and bought all the spitfire. British early jet are such a pain, so slow but I do enjoy swift
I only have played the UK line up till 5.3. Partially because I got the TOG II and have a couple of premiums that are close to its BR. But even before I got that Tank, I really enjoyed the going through the British tech tree from rank 1 to rank 3. This might be the best of tanks, but they have character, and are super fun to play. Only early Tech tree that has better rounds is the Swedish tech tree. The APCR rounds in rank 1 to 3 are amazing.
I’ve enjoyed playing both 5.3 and all of the centurions, the apds might shatter some times but I find with a cautious playstyle and careful aim I regularly get between 5-10 kills in matches. The main problem you find is the stabilisers incentivise rushing and with bad reverse speeds to boot that will get you killed
The fact that the Tiger 2 H hasn't been moved up to 7.0 is a crime. That thing was a beast before the major br changes. But hey, at least they nerfed the Brits again yeah?
I have started most tech trees on low tiers and played for a while. Even tough i do have nearly all toptier premiums. GBR line i played to around rank 2-3 and bought Challenger DS right away when it came out.
Idk if anyone mentioned this, but the only reason why the americans and the germans have decent mobility compared to the cheiftains, is cos they scrapped the idea of multifuel engines after how bad the idea was in practice. Now just imagine leopard with chieftains speed but bit faster cos less weight. But yiu still get the picture.
I started with America and swapped to Britain once i hit the paywall and the 3-in gun carrier is good if you play it like a 105 Sherman, same angling and all.
currently on Rank 2 close to Rank 3 i genuinely dont know the strat for playing british tanks cus it feels like no matter how you play them you cant win, rush onto a site? you get one shotted, play far back? your shots dont penetrate and youre about as accurate as when trying to take a piss at 2am, wanna tank some shots with a heavy tank? good luck the armour is unreliable and your tank is basically a flat box meaning theres no chance they dont penetrate and dont think angling your tank will save you.
As a man who Maine's Britain as my first Nation before going to German after maxing the tech tree it's not that bad the only thing that makes people ridicule them is the lack of APHE and to that I just say get good
Maybe the Challenger 3 will address these issues if it gets added anytime soon. I think the Hull is upgraded with more armor and a more powerful engine but i don't think it's more then 1400hp. Also a brand new turret with trophy active protection system and a L55 smoothbore gun with 1 piece ammo. So, Challenger 3 will probably still be a pig but with more fire power and survivability. Also might get Ajax added as well as that has just come out the other side of development hell and no longer shakes the crew to death.
Hull hasn't changed, engine is uprated to 1500hp, new turret/gun won't matter as it uses ammo in game already (DM53) which should shred all non turret armour in game at most ranges in game when fired from the L44. but fails to pen 1980's K5 equipped tanks at 500m FROM THE L55
@@greystash1750 The hull front is getting a small change to the drivers hatch to give it more protection. I didn't know it was confirmed to be getting the German 1500hp now rather than that supercharged Perkins one. How for the love of God can the L55 variant of the same gun, the L44 whose only difference is that the barrel is longer shooting the same round have lower penetration? The same gun that the Germans want to put on the most modern Leopards.
@@Cyberjyuubi It's using a modification of the CV12 (9A specifically) which uprates it to 1500hp, it isn't swapping to the europowerpack like they did for Challenger 2E. The standard weight is going up to 64t I think, so it is getting a little heavier. The areas protected by armour aren't changing as far as I'm aware, but it'll use a 3rd generation Chobham array for the composite. I think Greystash was saying that the L/44 firing DM53 should be enough to defeat Russian ERA, but it doesn't in-game and neither does the L/55. I don't think they were trying to say the L/55 has less pen than the L/44. The UK and Germany have signed an agreement to develop an Enhanced Kinetic Energy round (EKE) while the CR3 upgrades are being applied, but any CR3 variant added to the game in the near future will be sticking with DM53/63. I'd imagine we'd see it added more iteratively, starting with the Rhm LEP demonstrator still using Dorchester armour, no APS, and the 1200hp CV12 with the modified turret.
I despise a lot of British vehicles but I actually really enjoy the 5.3/5.7 lineup. I usually have a good time but I haven’t been touched by the sub cal nerf. APDS and solid shot seem to do more damage for me now than even APHE does on a lot of American or German vehicles.
You’re wrong about the Churchill mk1 imo. It was the first tank I had fun with and the 2lbr +howitzer combo lets you track and barrel torture at close range. It is also the best tutorial for the British tech tree of “aim, don’t point” cause every tank in the br bracket has a weakspot the 2lbr can pen somewhere
I can’t say I’m particularly good at war thunder in any aspect but as much as I try to like British tanks, it’s just depressing knowing half the vehicles around you are better in every important way. And the inability for solid shot/ sabot to do anything is just infuriating
BEGINNERS GUIDE TO THE BRITISH TECH TREE step 1: Don't even bother to start British tree unless you have strong faith on them I am a British tank main too, I can perform much superior in other nation's tanks. I can confidently say that skill is irrelevant to your performance, your vehicle does. I would say British tanks in war thunder are not bad, they just don't fit how people are playing this game.
2 mins in; this is wrong. Our arms industry has definitely had investment since the 80s. Hell, it was the UK which kept the Eurofighter project (which was in the early stages as the ACA), ASRAAM project and others alive when other countries (mostly Germany) dropped out of these supposed joint-developments (Germany's AMRAAM research eventually went into the IRIS-T). We're also driving the development of 6th gen aircraft, namely with FCAS/Tempest/GCAP. Also, blaming Labour for every problem with defence procurement?... in the 80s?? When the Tories were in charge from 1979 until 1994? Also, 4 mins in; if you're at all familiar with British history in WW2 you'll know that we very much didn't use WW1 equipment in a modern moving war.. we used equipment based on lessons from the first world war which were somewhat dated, but the equipment itself was designed to fit the doctrine; heavy infantry support tanks and light cruiser tanks for swift actions. We didn't enter the war using MK IV tanks.
4.7 is alright but its pretty boring in general and you face waves of t-34s which are so annoying to fight cause you destroy one and the rest just swarm around you
I find it kinda weird that Italy gets the late-war Firefly w/ the apds ammo, and not Britbong. Oh, the British Tutel also has a pretty weird and major weakspot on the upper-front-plate, right where that V-shaped bracket is, for whatever reason the effective-armor PLUMMETS to barely 100mm despite it being extremely angled.
all of the vehicles you thought were mediocre and bad at rank I/II i loved and did really well in. the churchill I for example is one of my favorite tanks in the game. guess its just a matter of preference also the cromwell rp3 is fantastic on flat maps like cargo port or city theaters in general. those rockets have gotten me out of a lot of situations where my main gun was either destroyed or reloading.
i've been waiting for this video for ages and by god it delivered good shit on managing to get this slog of a Tech Tree (mandated suffering) review done Sako I know i wouldn't have been able to
A big thing to mention is that Britain has the only wheeled cannon equipped lights in the game that actually have decent gun depression and a full feature electronics suite (stabilizer thermals rangefinder) and that makes them much more competent than a lot of the competition purely because it opens up way more positions and angles you can operate from
41:50 comet is a joke, it has less pen, longer reload and same reverse speed as other birtish vehicles at it's br, only good thing is size nothing else
It’s completely ridiculous that a Centurion is 7.7 now, they completely ruined that lineup I put a lot of time and effort in…
It is indeed suffering
Imagine how did it feel for old british mains who had their 6.7 (FV4204, Caernarvon, FV4005) lineup butchered with HEATFS and ATGM.
Funniest thing is British get nefted from how well we are doing because the people who consistently play British Ground RB are the only one who were willing enough to learn the mechanics and capitalise on it. the Lynx's manification is nefted because they wanted to sell Rooivalk. AH Mk. 1 and other variants are missing their IRCM and IR shields but those modifications exist in Russian KA-52 and Mi-28NM. Starstreak is supposed to reach Mach 3 and not have a cap of Mach 1 on speed. Chally 2's manlet is poorly modeled in which results in less protection.
Gaijin butchered a lot, like the fact the M26 Pershing, T26E5, and Super Pershing are all 6.7 despite each being a subsequent upgrade on the last. It makes zero sense.
@@DistinguishedCanuck The American 7.0s are a FKING joke. The Sheridan is the only vehicle worth getting. M103? garbage. Just Sheridan and all the light tanks and TD and then to the Abrams. They are not even close to their competitors in performance in a game like this.
I somehow had the mental fortitude to grind out the UK when there was only a single Chally 2, no South Africa, and no ADATS. Somehow I've managed to keep on top of having the tree completed (UGH). I'm convinced Gaijin has an unwritten rule stating that "Britain will never have its moment in the sun". Even the air tree tends to be viciously underwhelming considering the pedigree. Yet, the biggest shocker of them all is that the Royal Navy is woefully impotent (for the most part)- that's just bloody rude lol.
As a naval player sadly I agree. Their destroyers are fun but weirdly fragile. They have a lot of pretty good frigates and high level coasts which in turn sadly have zero place in the current meta
@@jacksonespeut3692 ya, I have a sneaking suspicion that by the time a Nelson, Repulse, Warspite, or Prince of Wales shows up it will be in the same patch as an Iowa or Yamato class which would effectively keep the tree out of the meta if not mark those ships as DOA.
Hey uk air is pretty good and I enjoy it lol, especially hispanos
99% of the time the British tanks aren't actually that bad, it's just the map design and the massive amount of "overtiering" that occurs in the tech trees that makes them look awful. I find it hilarious that guns that were designed to eat WW2 German and later Cold War Russian tanks were nerfed because they were doing exactly that. I take great satisfaction in having obtained nukes in several of the tech tree vehicles because of how rough Britain gets it, my first nuke was in the Ratel 90 on Mozdok ffs xD
Arguably the biggest problem Britain faces is a lot of its vehicles underperform while other nations overperform
1:22:05 I am a warrior gunner IRL and I can tell you that it could be so much worse.
If you fire all 6 rounds you have to do a complete unload and reload which takes over 30 seconds to do, you have to fire 3 rounds, insert a new clip, rinse and repeat. If you fire 4 rounds and load a new clip you have a gap in feed and the 30 second reload starts again.
The none stabilised gun irl is worthless on the move, you may as well strap the cannon to a speed boat, you’d have about the same accuracy. What’s funny is that it actually has a stabilised sight but you can only use it in “surveillance mode” it’s just a big fat tease
I’ve just completed an exercise with the Prince of wales so I’m basically the most important person on the internet also 😂
Anyway time to go leak warrior documents
I know the British wanted it to work even after a nuke went off but come on like the 2 most basic things that IFV's had at the time including Russian BMP-2 and 3 which is an automatic loading system and a stabilized gun, but they couldn't even do that pretty embarrassing imo
@@gamingwolf6735if smt is electronic then it won’t work after the nuke bc they produce a big ass emp
@@meepthunder8060 I know that why i said
"I know they wanted it to work even after a nuke went off" but even then i don't understand their logic if a nuke went off a IFV wouldn't be much good because that probably means that the world will be fucked
@@gamingwolf6735 ohh ok 👍
@@meepthunder8060 👍
Britain is by no means a bad tree, but it's greatly held back by nerfing and overtiering from gaijin. They claim it's because if stats that we're not allowed access to, but the reason the stats are so high for British vehicles is because the only people who stick with them are the maniacs willing to fight an uphill battle. If they were properly balanced on capability it would bring more players into the tree and lower the overall skill level of British mains, same as when they release a high tier premium it bombs win rates regardless of how good it is. More players means more casuals.
The Warrior upgrade with a stabilizer and improved gun would be very much appreciated, in addition to Scorpion light tanks
The reason behind the warrior being like it is is bc it was built to withstand the EMP made by a nuke so they didn’t want anything electronic on it
@@meepthunder8060 Yes but it would still be nice to have the Warrior CSP.
@@Th3Bishop3or the desert warrior upgrade that was made for Kuwait
Agree with the Scorpion and also Scimitar light tanks need to be added.
@@raz_hz got what u wanted
The moment you described the Archer as being "shite" i instantly subscribed and liked the video. Cheered me up for sure hearing that
The British tech tree used to be the tech tree for skilled players bored doing well with Americans, Germans, and Russians counterparts. Personally, I love the British tech tree out of heritage and self-loathing. Highlights that I adore are the Daimler gun-go cart, the Crusader III, the Cromwells, the Sherman Fireflies, the Comet I, the Charioteer VII, and the Centurions (yes, even the Mark I). Basically, the cruisers with a few long-range sniping outliers here and there. Favorite support CAS includes the Swordfish (for the memes), the Mosquito FB Mk XVIIIe (speedy flying 6-pounder go brrrr), the premium Thunderbolt, the Wyvern, the Spitfires, and the Hornet Mk. III (last two for exclusively anti-CAS/Counter-air). Give it a try if you want to hone the skills picked up in other tech trees, it’ll make you a more proficient player.
I started with the British Tech tree when I started playing a year and a half ago, been enjoying it, despite the tanks that should be good being shafted by the way the game has been built. I started playing some other tech trees when my crews are locked, and bloody hell, aces every other game. I can play aggressively too, as opposed to having to react to the enemies like in the British tech tree, others get to dictate the flow of a match.
@@agiliteka I think it does make you a better player when you become proficient with British tanks then move on to other tech trees.
- High penetration but relatively low post-pen damage guns/rounds force you to become something of a sharpshooter for critical components.
- You learn to adapt better to terrain because of the common mobility limitations in the tree.
- You learn to rely on positioning rather than armor because of the lackluster protection in most British tanks.
- Nifty cruisers like Crusaders, Cromwells, and Comets accommodate the need for speed in the shoot-and-scoot lads.
- Excellent Close Air Support options (Typhoons, Wyvern, early Mossie, Spits for counter CAS, etc.) to help mitigate costs.
Main-lining the British tech tree is like training with wooden weapons that are twice the weight of their steel counterparts. Sure, it can be wonky and frustrating and may even cause unintentional injury but it betters the player. It embodies the “plucky Brit” sort of character that seems to permeate British military history. Despite its shortcomings, it’s my favorite tech tree by far.
@@dr1Voss48 You put it into words perfectly. By far the most eloquent comment I've seen on RUclips in a while.
@@agiliteka Cheers, I appreciate it. Thank goodness that damned English degree came in handy for once.
Just started playing recently, put maybe 20h in, all Britain, no premiums. I wouldn't call it fun, but it can sometimes resemble fun in the right match.
That being said, I feel a great sense of tranquility when I play. Of course every US, German and Russian tank can one-shot me, and my solid shot does nothing. That's the game, apparently. No rage, no salt - I expect to get (at best) a neutral K/D. It's very zen. Can't get angry about losing if you never expected to win.
Glad to hear that it only gets worse at the higher tiers. I thought 2.7 / 3.3 was bad, but apparently that's just a warm-up.
I'm convinced if we had better/bigger maps, the British would be competent. Every time I'm in a city map at tier 6, I just spawn as the warrior. Especially when everything can 1 shot you, and you often need to place 2 shots on tanks to get a kill.
Fun fact, the Polish Firefly actually isn't a carbon copy of the tech tree Firefly.
Unlike the tech tree version, the Polish tank uses the standard non-lengthened Sherman hull and the old radial engine as opposed to the famous 5 welded-together bus engines.
In theory this should make the Polish Firefly a bit slower, but since they didn't have to extend the hull it's also a lot lighter, resulting in a power/weight ratio that's ever so slightly better than the tech tree Firefly, at the cost of more recoil.
When I started going down the British line, the Gun Carrier was one of my fav early vehicles. The armour was great and the gun was fantastic.
As I keep watching the video, I'm really finding my opinions differ quite a bit from Sako. I love the Churchill tanks. Guns aren't great, but armour is fantastic, allowing you to bounce shots while you aim for weak spots. Same playstyle as the Jumbo for me.
I know it’s an unpopular opinion, but I love British humor. Amazing video, really interesting, I can’t wait to see the next one.
When you learn how to use the Archer its actually amazing, played defensively its a neat tank destroyer that unlike any other British tank can actually escape superior enemy forces without having to turn around first since its already set to drive in the direction awa from the enemy.
And IRL it was actually quite noted for this ability by its crews, who appreciated being able to shoot and scoot away to the next defensive position rather than getting caught by the Panzers while turning around.
Also I’ll defend the 3 inch gun carrier since its got stupendous amounts of armour with angling, so it absolutely chews up many of the light tanks that get spammed about in the 1.7-3.7 range
As soon as the british have something working for them gaijin nerfs it somehow
A worthy successor to Oxy's dated Britain guide series. Thank you!
I can only dream of being as in-depth and capable an editor as Oxy;
But thank you for your comment. It means a lot! 😄
I've played war thunder for 2years and got top tier Britain in air now I've just begun my grind for ground
👍. Gaijin just give the British tree a huge handy-cap, but yet give the ussr tree the advantage. Has been since day one & wont change. But it will get worse. As they have proven.
Ratel 90 is one of my most played vehicles in the game when it was 6.0. Sure it's huge but the gun is uptier proof.
The Warrior has been the biggest surprise in the game for me. Its mobility is better than a Marder and it carries twice as many ATGMS. The fire rate is abysmal on the 30mm cannon but it hits hard enough.
I actually enjoy the archer and gun carrier, just the best vehicle to play when listening to British Grenadiers, other than the tog 2 ofc
No better feeling in Warthunder than doing a 180 noscope with the archer at top speed
Thank you man, as a british main still going through the ground tree tbis has helped me further understand that I should have chosen a different tech tree as the sherman firefly should not have enticed me enough to have spent 1000 hours on this snail forsaken tech tree, on the postitve note I know know of more humorous vehicles to obtain and I will certantly be spending too much time getting the TES because I think it is funny and the Olifant MK.2 because the super centurion is a rather interesting and humorous idea, thank you for the enjoyment, good humor and ability to stave off the extistental dread.
I have to disagree with your thoughts on the churchill 1, if you angle it and keep it moving it is impenetrable, if you take time with it, it’ll be a fun tank when you learn how to play it
He said thendaimler is bad as well seem skill issues or he just dont know how to play it
Edit: content since adjusted so thanks to the creator of this very comprehensive video it’s much appreciated!
The 1980s was one of the longest periods of Tory rule with not a single labour government. Not to mention the fact that MBT-80 probably the most famous cancelled british land vehicle was initiated in 1979 under Labour Jim Callaghan and cancelled under the Thatcher government. Not only did Thatcher slice apart the Royal Navy, she was also responsible for the privatisation of BAe and British shipbuilders and the subsequent collapse in manufacturing that followed.
Now yes Labour have made many terrible defence decisions in the past, the most infamous being the 1966 defence white paper but also some incredible ones like the construction of the Queen Elizabeth class and Operation Journeyman, Jim Callaghans sucessful attempt to prevent an Argentine invasion of the Falklands. But so have the Torys, the 2010 white paper that crippled the navy for decades to come, Thatchers withdrawal of Falklands guard ships and attempted sale of half the navy to Argentina and of course the cancellation of MBT-80 and many other armoured vehicles in the 1980s.
We can’t just blame Labour governments for bad defence decisions out of ignorance or carelessness becuase it doesnt send the right message or come across well at all. Messing up defence procurement is a Bipartisan British specialty that both Tory and Labour are responsible for.
Queen Elizabeth class that isn't nuclear powered so costs a fortune to run and had no aircraft for almost a decade because our Harriers were sold to the yanks for scrap lol. Great decisions by the Labour Government there
Seriously, and saying that there hasn't been any investment since? We kept the ACA funded, when every other nation (Germany and Italy) refused to fund it, and it went on to become the Eurofighter. We're a tier 1 manufacturing partner for the F-35, we developed the ASRAAM when other countries dropped out (though Germany did later create the IRIS-T as a result of their initial cooperation) and are paving the way for 6th generation aircraft with FCAS/GCAP/Tempest.
@@szkarat9814 every single project you have just listed is one of collaboration. The British defence industry is still an impressive beast that can play a major role… However it absolutely pales in comparison to the sovereign defence industry of the 1960s.
To put it in perspective back then almost every commonwealth nation had former British ships in service, the aviation industry had designed the TSR-2 probably the best aircraft every designed that never saw service, we had just built the Kestrel the preliminary to the harrier and were ready to start building the HS-p1154 a incredible after burning supersonic variant. All while we were also collaborating on the most ambitious civilian airliner project of all time, Concorde.
Not being funny mate but BAe now is a shadow compared to the titans that were British Aircraft Corporation, Hawker siddley, Vickers and the hundreds of shipyards in operation.
@@finol6127 I'd argue its unfair to call BAE so simply a shadow compared to previous companies; BAE isn't limited to the UK; it has operations spanning the UK, US, Australia, Sweden & Saudi Arabia. BAE produces the Bradley, AMPV, CV90, Archer, M109, M109A7, just to name a few products.
In regards to the ships, Australia and Canada are set to adopt the Type 26, with Australia also planning on adopting the SSN-AUKUS in regards to submarines.
To top all of this off, BAE has just recently acquired Ball aerospace. In my opinion, we're doing pretty well, all things considered.
@@szkarat9814 that is true and BAe is currently a successful company however much of its ‘wide spread’ is through subsidiaries that barely even resemble the original company. BAe systems USA is practically its own entity and is a product or modern corporatism, it has very little to do with the actual British state or defence industry and at this point is practically just a name. Same with BAe Australia, everything manufactured down under with ownership tied to Australia not the UK. BAe is much more of a corporate defence business than a national defence industry for the UK.
Surprisingly, the Vickers Mk1 has a 5.0s reload when aced, meaning it will out reload most things it faces
I always fiNd Gaijin's definition of "realism" to be entertaining.
I remember during the british tank CBT it would regularly be one team of the UK vs everyone else combined, and I dont think we ever lost a single game. There were multiple games we won without the enemy even scoring a single kill.
King Charles! The British Empire will RISE AGAIN!!!
When I get the urge to play British ground I get shivers when I remember solid shot amo. This vehicles would have been much more fun if you could use APHE or if sold shot would create more spalling.
hey the Russians didn't think that solid shot create more spalling but in IRL solid shot has better pen than soviet APHE because how light the shell is and how unreliable the fuse and the highly insensitive the explosives is.
the conq is probably my favorite in the tree
it’s absolute heresy that you think the centurion is mediocre, but at the same time it is criminal how many br increases they’ve suffered
king charles
I'm probably just bitter; got used to clubbing dumb Tiger 2 players with my APDS, and now I have to fight actually good tanks/players☠️
The daimler mk2 is one of the best low tier tank , the crew make up for the turret turning rate and for the mobility is perfectly fine . I play it up to 5.0 and still do well
Blood, sweat and tears is the best way to describe the British in this game
No love for top tier? Man, you've got 5! Challenger 2s lmao, now granted their armor is absolutely terrible compared to what it is in real life but still. - that's basically every Western (non-Russian or Chinese) MBT
Yeah top tier Britain is actually pretty decent, as you’ve already said there’s plenty of challengers and the cherry on top the Harrier GR7 for CAS :)
And they got stock apfsds, British bias
Top tier britain is a contender for best lineup although they do lack a good IFV
@@greystash1750 I agree
For 5.3 mediums... I hate the comet. It has mobility that is worse than the other option, though not by a lot. The armour is enough to make it harder for planes to strafe kill you, but it's not good enough to make any difference with other tanks. But worst, the gun is significantly worse. The shells have much less penetration, which means that you're essentially forced to use the apds since the apcbc has such little pen. That's my 2 cents anyway, I'll take the challenger or even the avenger any day.
The Ystervark is amazing. I love zipping around in my shitty golf cart technical.
I have the Challenger DS and I quite enjoy it along with the G-lynx.
Missed when the centution mk3 and similar were 6.7 since not only was that fun but it felt somewhat balanced
48:58 The Centurion Mk.I got moved back to 6.0, so ever so slightly better then the 6.3
1:00:26 And the G6 Rhino was moved from 7.0 to 6.7 in RB, but very funni to obliterate IS-3's through the side when up-tiered
Crusader III - perfect tank. PERFECT
I think the difficulty in playing British tech tree will make some of the most hardened players in the game, deffo ones you don’t wanna underestimate. but I imagine they’ll somehow fuck this up as well with their clear bias for others
Top tier tip regarding british Ground: Just stick to the isle and never actually take them, out, best life decisions you can make
Morning Sako, i love your video's because you're actually more entertaining compared to other war thunder youtubers, because you simply don't give a shit about any sorts of feelings towards any part of the community, for that i love your channel man plus you add on actually good humour towards the tanks not just generic bullshit, hahha sorry as a self-proclaimed Brit in a godforsaken country (South Africa) its definitely a breath of fresh air. so thank you and i hope you're having a wonderful day.
Thank you for the support mate!
Should’ve watched this before playing Brits. Tier 2 is just pain with the 40mm 😩😩😩
the Archer was actually built after the Avenger, Serman Firefly, and Achilles
My bad dude!
Getting into Britain's tech tree is more painful than any other....I just started and Holy hell.....
Yeah using britain as a faction is a struggle Light tanks was okay but when i hit Rank 2 Just getting my crusaders, cromwells and valentines 1 shotted by Russian American and German tanks lol
British my personal favourite tanks in war thunder also nice vid 👍
"Highspeed Runner - jonhannesburg criminal" hahaha good one
1:17:20 Fun fact: the Olifant Mk2 is in fact not the last centurion, as the TTD is surprisingly based on the Olifant, and therefore by extension based on the Centurion.
Very accurate representation of the British TT though: pain, with a few good bits.
Wish you would've included the Centurion mk.2, it's pretty fun
For the sake of humanity never mention that "thing" again
@@scopehuzefa7950 What's wrong with it? Stab and 270 pen at 6.7 with a good reload and decent armor, I'd say it's probably the best 6.7 medium. Sure, you need to fire a few shots to take out tanks but that's nothing new in the British tech tree
Centurion is where it starts catch up, I say start, because 1st, centurion is basically only working on it's BR, you got to get to tier 6 to actually start enjoying it... or... just play on BR 1.0 and be happy person.
Also, I don't think they don't play their own game, the just play only soviet, they don't like centurions obligerating them, so they just moved them up where they make no sense.
As an American, I love the British tanks. They look good and play very nice. Very tough. Still love my Abrams, but the British tanks are sweet
Most British RND projects mostly boil down to a middle aged man with a shed, just look at barns Wallace
The Fox has arrived!
Wow such thorogh explanations with examples. Great fkn video
Glad you liked it!
Always appreciate your sense of humour
All problem of Britain tree is Gajin. They took main feature of this nation, and made casino of it. I talk about penetration. How u can play conqueror if u bounce from angled carboards?
the centurion mk1 was really good when it was 5.7, it was the best..... i loved it...... so so much......
Daimler Ahmed car someone shot me in the engine I believe it was a tiger, the bullet went straight through the engine and I survived like I couldn’t do anything teammate destroyed the tiger, but I managed to survive a tiger hit in that little car
Oh hey UK tech tree. I'm gonna go right up that tree myself and after the slog fest that is the centurions, I'm having the time of my life with the Oliphant and Khalid. I'll probably stay at 10.0 with the TTD and Challie 2. They seem like fun.
If there are any military geeks in the comments plz let me know what depleted uranium rounds do asking for a friend
DU is a much more dense metal, compared to tungsten, so for the same shape of dart, it will weigh more. So a DU round fired at the same velocity as a Tungsten round, will penetrate more armour, due to the mass x velocity energy formula
What a chad responding to a question in the comments of an old video
How is Tier 2 a struggle?
Use the Archer to get the Churchill gun carrier with 3 inch gun then rush the Churchill I.
You even have the (Sherman II) If armoured infantry tanks aren't your thing.
I have literally gone through Tier 1 & 2 with the Daimler Mk 2 while AEC AA is underrated.
Can't tell if joke or absolutely terrible take
I hope i dont upset anyone , but this is just my preference: I enjoy playing british tank over soviet ones, never really had problem with lack of HE filler and I really prefer to have good gun handling and nice gun depression which I really did not find at most soviet tanks.
I started with British nation because I wanted Spitfire, but I don’t know why I kept grinding for British. I’m at rank vi right now both ground and air.
Already research and bought all the spitfire. British early jet are such a pain, so slow but I do enjoy swift
KING CHARLES. Could you make this an ongoing series with other nations as well. Love these types of videos.
Personally I love the cent mk1. Mostly because of the reverse gear
I only have played the UK line up till 5.3. Partially because I got the TOG II and have a couple of premiums that are close to its BR. But even before I got that Tank, I really enjoyed the going through the British tech tree from rank 1 to rank 3. This might be the best of tanks, but they have character, and are super fun to play. Only early Tech tree that has better rounds is the Swedish tech tree. The APCR rounds in rank 1 to 3 are amazing.
I’ve enjoyed playing both 5.3 and all of the centurions, the apds might shatter some times but I find with a cautious playstyle and careful aim I regularly get between 5-10 kills in matches. The main problem you find is the stabilisers incentivise rushing and with bad reverse speeds to boot that will get you killed
The shattering shell experience
The fact that the Tiger 2 H hasn't been moved up to 7.0 is a crime. That thing was a beast before the major br changes. But hey, at least they nerfed the Brits again yeah?
Hates the 5.3 lineup. Hates the cent 1. Whats wrong with you man
You murdered me with comments on t34 and crusader , i watched it like 12 times lol
ZA-35 is SO MUCH FUN HOLY SHIT
I have started most tech trees on low tiers and played for a while. Even tough i do have nearly all toptier premiums. GBR line i played to around rank 2-3 and bought Challenger DS right away when it came out.
Idk if anyone mentioned this, but the only reason why the americans and the germans have decent mobility compared to the cheiftains, is cos they scrapped the idea of multifuel engines after how bad the idea was in practice. Now just imagine leopard with chieftains speed but bit faster cos less weight. But yiu still get the picture.
This is just a vid off all my pain i had during my grind but now im reserching the challi mk1 soon will be rank 7 😁
I started with America and swapped to Britain once i hit the paywall and the 3-in gun carrier is good if you play it like a 105 Sherman, same angling and all.
I just got 6.3 Britain and even use the Cent Mk1 with the lineup, I think it is great fun
currently on Rank 2 close to Rank 3 i genuinely dont know the strat for playing british tanks cus it feels like no matter how you play them you cant win, rush onto a site? you get one shotted, play far back? your shots dont penetrate and youre about as accurate as when trying to take a piss at 2am, wanna tank some shots with a heavy tank? good luck the armour is unreliable and your tank is basically a flat box meaning theres no chance they dont penetrate and dont think angling your tank will save you.
king charles , long live the king
As a man who Maine's Britain as my first Nation before going to German after maxing the tech tree it's not that bad the only thing that makes people ridicule them is the lack of APHE and to that I just say get good
Maybe the Challenger 3 will address these issues if it gets added anytime soon. I think the Hull is upgraded with more armor and a more powerful engine but i don't think it's more then 1400hp. Also a brand new turret with trophy active protection system and a L55 smoothbore gun with 1 piece ammo. So, Challenger 3 will probably still be a pig but with more fire power and survivability. Also might get Ajax added as well as that has just come out the other side of development hell and no longer shakes the crew to death.
Hull hasn't changed, engine is uprated to 1500hp, new turret/gun won't matter as it uses ammo in game already (DM53) which should shred all non turret armour in game at most ranges in game when fired from the L44. but fails to pen 1980's K5 equipped tanks at 500m FROM THE L55
@@greystash1750 The hull front is getting a small change to the drivers hatch to give it more protection. I didn't know it was confirmed to be getting the German 1500hp now rather than that supercharged Perkins one. How for the love of God can the L55 variant of the same gun, the L44 whose only difference is that the barrel is longer shooting the same round have lower penetration? The same gun that the Germans want to put on the most modern Leopards.
@@Cyberjyuubi It's using a modification of the CV12 (9A specifically) which uprates it to 1500hp, it isn't swapping to the europowerpack like they did for Challenger 2E. The standard weight is going up to 64t I think, so it is getting a little heavier. The areas protected by armour aren't changing as far as I'm aware, but it'll use a 3rd generation Chobham array for the composite.
I think Greystash was saying that the L/44 firing DM53 should be enough to defeat Russian ERA, but it doesn't in-game and neither does the L/55. I don't think they were trying to say the L/55 has less pen than the L/44.
The UK and Germany have signed an agreement to develop an Enhanced Kinetic Energy round (EKE) while the CR3 upgrades are being applied, but any CR3 variant added to the game in the near future will be sticking with DM53/63. I'd imagine we'd see it added more iteratively, starting with the Rhm LEP demonstrator still using Dorchester armour, no APS, and the 1200hp CV12 with the modified turret.
I despise a lot of British vehicles but I actually really enjoy the 5.3/5.7 lineup. I usually have a good time but I haven’t been touched by the sub cal nerf. APDS and solid shot seem to do more damage for me now than even APHE does on a lot of American or German vehicles.
1:07:45 nasty shot my dude
You’re wrong about the Churchill mk1 imo. It was the first tank I had fun with and the 2lbr +howitzer combo lets you track and barrel torture at close range. It is also the best tutorial for the British tech tree of “aim, don’t point” cause every tank in the br bracket has a weakspot the 2lbr can pen somewhere
I can’t say I’m particularly good at war thunder in any aspect but as much as I try to like British tanks, it’s just depressing knowing half the vehicles around you are better in every important way. And the inability for solid shot/ sabot to do anything is just infuriating
BEGINNERS GUIDE TO THE BRITISH TECH TREE
step 1: Don't even bother to start British tree unless you have strong faith on them
I am a British tank main too, I can perform much superior in other nation's tanks.
I can confidently say that skill is irrelevant to your performance, your vehicle does.
I would say British tanks in war thunder are not bad, they just don't fit how people are playing this game.
BEST freakin' Into EVER 🤣🤣🤣
Great vid, thank you. King Charles!
2 mins in; this is wrong. Our arms industry has definitely had investment since the 80s. Hell, it was the UK which kept the Eurofighter project (which was in the early stages as the ACA), ASRAAM project and others alive when other countries (mostly Germany) dropped out of these supposed joint-developments (Germany's AMRAAM research eventually went into the IRIS-T). We're also driving the development of 6th gen aircraft, namely with FCAS/Tempest/GCAP. Also, blaming Labour for every problem with defence procurement?... in the 80s?? When the Tories were in charge from 1979 until 1994?
Also, 4 mins in; if you're at all familiar with British history in WW2 you'll know that we very much didn't use WW1 equipment in a modern moving war.. we used equipment based on lessons from the first world war which were somewhat dated, but the equipment itself was designed to fit the doctrine; heavy infantry support tanks and light cruiser tanks for swift actions. We didn't enter the war using MK IV tanks.
so basically if you are rank 3 you should prepare for the worst
4.7 is alright but its pretty boring in general and you face waves of t-34s which are so annoying to fight cause you destroy one and the rest just swarm around you
Well...God save the King! o7 hehehe
how there you dis the beautiful chieftain mk10 its the best British tank in my opinion.
I find it kinda weird that Italy gets the late-war Firefly w/ the apds ammo, and not Britbong.
Oh, the British Tutel also has a pretty weird and major weakspot on the upper-front-plate, right where that V-shaped bracket is, for whatever reason the effective-armor PLUMMETS to barely 100mm despite it being extremely angled.
At least it’s less painful than having to rewatch the entire series of sex I’m the city or fifty shades of grey
all of the vehicles you thought were mediocre and bad at rank I/II i loved and did really well in. the churchill I for example is one of my favorite tanks in the game. guess its just a matter of preference
also the cromwell rp3 is fantastic on flat maps like cargo port or city theaters in general. those rockets have gotten me out of a lot of situations where my main gun was either destroyed or reloading.
i've been waiting for this video for ages and by god it delivered good shit on managing to get this slog of a Tech Tree (mandated suffering) review done Sako
I know i wouldn't have been able to
Thanks mate!
Hope to see the Italian tree next
A big thing to mention is that Britain has the only wheeled cannon equipped lights in the game that actually have decent gun depression and a full feature electronics suite (stabilizer thermals rangefinder) and that makes them much more competent than a lot of the competition purely because it opens up way more positions and angles you can operate from
41:50 comet is a joke, it has less pen, longer reload and same reverse speed as other birtish vehicles at it's br, only good thing is size nothing else
Pain, suffering and tea.