I’m more perplexed by the way he kickflips. He paddles the sole of his foot down. It looks as if he has a prosthetic leg because his ankle doesn’t bend.
That's the way he learned the tricks when he was a kid. Later, as an adult person, he couldn't fix it anymore, so he kept doing them the way he used to do. I kind of have a similar style (an ugly one) for the very same reason. I learned my ollies the wrong way, and I couldn't fix them later. My switch ollies are more stylish, more leveled out, and generally are better compared to my regular ones. I mostly do my tricks in nollie, because I can ride in my regular stance, but pop high and stuff.
@@chrispatton6303 mob is a lazy flick with some rocket. It's still using the side of your shoe. Jeff straight up paddles down the sole. Never seen anyone do kickflips like that before and I've been watching skate vids for 30 years.
totally agree about the changing boards/setups, it's so much more fun to have a variety. i also started skating regularly when 7.5" was the norm and 8.5" looked crazy, though i am old enough to remember having big old fish boards from the '80s too. i have 7.75-8.5" popsicles, though i'm liking the wider ones, and 9"+ on shapes. i thought it was a pressure flip at first glance. not that it would be a problem, pressure flips are cool.
It seems to me hardflips work basically the same way, you can use your front foot and flick really hard to make the board do the motion or you can pop really hard and just kind of have your foot in the right place. Think of like a muska flip vs a frontside flip. In the clip you showed of you doing inward heel you have to flick really hard to make the heel flip go that way, but Deawon and Jeffwon mostly just pop and slightly use the front foot. Your style makes the board stay more under you, while the other way the board goes out in front you and flips, you just have to land back on it.
Jef skates like he learnt his tricks from a book. Not a bad or good thing, just very unique. If you locked a none skater in a dungeon and told them they could only come out when they could make the board do a bs 180 + heelflip, it would most definitely end up like jeffs
I can't believe how many comments I got on my video trying to say Jeff pressure flipped Tucsons 15 XD. I get it but regardless a pressure flip down a 15 stair is absolutely fucked and as a pressure flipper myself like you said the way Jeff flicked the flip was nothing close to a pressure flip. Pressure flip has to have the shoe wrapping around the scoop pressure with the other foot on the opposite side holding the board down creating the pressure that makes it flip. Thank you for breaking it down for all!! Really is not hard to see
@@bovedli Oh wait you can't do any tricks down 15 stairs you can only observe and make comments lol Jeff got buck and threw down while you sat around the house like a clown sorry fam I do not know what to tell you hopping down 15 stairs more than 5 times is more than impressive in itself
@@backwoodyben4360 just think about it for a sec. Picture in your mind. How sick would be a 15 stair pressure flip? I would fuck with that tho. That sounds fucked! In this discussion we are talking about Jeff. My skate skills are totally irrelevant. That’s not what we are talking about right now. I prefer proper inward heels over Jeff’s inward heels. But I’ve been saying for years that Daewon and Joey Brezinsky did it the same way too. It’s not a pressure flip I have been saying that for years too.
@bovedli that's cool man call it what you want homie still did something buck down the 15 and if you are hating or correcting what he did but can't do anything close to the same you kind of are just a Goof or hater
I'm so glad you gave the big board a try and having fun. Ive been skating more in the last few years than I ever did after high school. Started riding big boards with big wheels because theyre great getting around but eventually started doing more with it and it was great fun
shocked its not pressure, but you convinced me. his style while still kinda bad, isnt nearly as bad as it use to be. there is almost a Jeremy Klein quality about it. but Klein makes the awkwardness look good
We needa normalize Jeff style with the “Jeff flop steez” basically a trick u land lower than where u popped it some examples “ 540 treyflop, nollie trippleflop, 360 inwardflop”
Ok I was curious if you were riding that big board. Glad to hear you're liking it, I've recently set up a big board (10.5) and am surprised with how much I'm liking it too.
Ehats crazy is you can see his tail actually landed on the 2nd atair, took all the impact with his rear wheels not even on the 1st stair. They then go onto the 1st stair and fire cracker down it.
I love the trick analysis dude! Sadly, we don't hear enough about the mechanics of tricks or how foot placement/pressure gets you crazy stuff like full flips and dolphin flips. Or maybe I'm just growing tired of the same kickflip/heelflip variations when there's way more actual trick selection out there. Lol
It is the equivalent of a terrible kicked down mob hardflip just backside. He sucks. I always hated the guy and his style with passion. It is what it is. Im not proud of it and not encouraging anyone to hate on Jeff’s skating, but I personally hate it. Everything he lands is terrible
As much as i support and love the guy. I think he does cheat a little but if you found a hack around a certain trick, Especially a hard trick like an inward heel flip, wouldnt you use it and abuse it too?
Hahaha I am shocked. I legit thought zero chance at inward heel. But I am convinced. It's a standard no pop, bad style inward heel. Sorry, nothing personal, just truth. Also, fight me, but Daewon's weren't very pretty either. Better, but not a proper looking one even like the ones you had filmed. Guess it is all in the technique. Also, I can't do it either way so who cares what I say, haha.
haha remember the kelly hart nine club thing and we were all planning to go to the nine club headquarters and beat kelly up but Rad Rat made a follow up video telling us not to beat kelly up
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Haha thanks for clarifying my man! Funny enough, Daewon was the first one to inspire me to do inward heels 🤷♂️
Ha, yeah me too.
I knew it.
@@seansoper6757how?
@@Spliffcheeseburger The only people that seem to care are people who can't pressure flip or inward heel so I beg the differ XD
@@Spliffcheeseburgerif you cant inward heel nor pressure flip do not speak your opinion
Nine club's about to get jeff on just to call you a dork again
And Jeff is "Cool"? 😏
@@himebaughchris4026 cooler than haslam lmao
He is a dork!
hahahahaha
@@AnarchyApple nobody is cooler than Haslam
Man I missed these kinds of videos on this channel
Me too. This really made me feel nostalgic
He makes them on the regular what are y’all talking about 😂
Jeffs shoes must be immaculate for never flicking
the heels are worn out from clicking together
How can you Tripple flip without flicking? 🤔
@@miracle_flipper using the sole of your foot and hawking it down a 12 stair 😭😭
i know somebody that can destroy me at skate and doesnt have a single scuff on his shoes cos he mobs everything. i love to see it ngl
I mob everything and I still have fucked up shoes.
Really enjoyed the breakdown of the way inward heels could flip, especially with the home video RR examples!
I’m more perplexed by the way he kickflips. He paddles the sole of his foot down. It looks as if he has a prosthetic leg because his ankle doesn’t bend.
That's the way he learned the tricks when he was a kid. Later, as an adult person, he couldn't fix it anymore, so he kept doing them the way he used to do. I kind of have a similar style (an ugly one) for the very same reason. I learned my ollies the wrong way, and I couldn't fix them later. My switch ollies are more stylish, more leveled out, and generally are better compared to my regular ones. I mostly do my tricks in nollie, because I can ride in my regular stance, but pop high and stuff.
@@00ffdcthat’s how we all learn tricks as a kid
Mark Gonzalez does it like that too it's called "mob" it's just how they kickflip
@@chrispatton6303 mob is a lazy flick with some rocket. It's still using the side of your shoe. Jeff straight up paddles down the sole. Never seen anyone do kickflips like that before and I've been watching skate vids for 30 years.
@@derekperc shit yea your right you perfectly described how I'm watching a mark Gonzalez flip in my mind and it sure isnt like Jeff at all
totally agree about the changing boards/setups, it's so much more fun to have a variety. i also started skating regularly when 7.5" was the norm and 8.5" looked crazy, though i am old enough to remember having big old fish boards from the '80s too. i have 7.75-8.5" popsicles, though i'm liking the wider ones, and 9"+ on shapes. i thought it was a pressure flip at first glance. not that it would be a problem, pressure flips are cool.
It seems to me hardflips work basically the same way, you can use your front foot and flick really hard to make the board do the motion or you can pop really hard and just kind of have your foot in the right place. Think of like a muska flip vs a frontside flip. In the clip you showed of you doing inward heel you have to flick really hard to make the heel flip go that way, but Deawon and Jeffwon mostly just pop and slightly use the front foot. Your style makes the board stay more under you, while the other way the board goes out in front you and flips, you just have to land back on it.
Man there are a hundred ways to do hardflips and only one of them works for me
Jef skates like he learnt his tricks from a book.
Not a bad or good thing, just very unique. If you locked a none skater in a dungeon and told them they could only come out when they could make the board do a bs 180 + heelflip, it would most definitely end up like jeffs
I can't believe how many comments I got on my video trying to say Jeff pressure flipped Tucsons 15 XD. I get it but regardless a pressure flip down a 15 stair is absolutely fucked and as a pressure flipper myself like you said the way Jeff flicked the flip was nothing close to a pressure flip. Pressure flip has to have the shoe wrapping around the scoop pressure with the other foot on the opposite side holding the board down creating the pressure that makes it flip. Thank you for breaking it down for all!! Really is not hard to see
That is kind of the problem that it’s not even good enough to be a pressure flip lol
@@bovedli And yet he landed a flip down the Tucson 15. What did you do down 15 stairs? XD
@@bovedli Oh wait you can't do any tricks down 15 stairs you can only observe and make comments lol Jeff got buck and threw down while you sat around the house like a clown sorry fam I do not know what to tell you hopping down 15 stairs more than 5 times is more than impressive in itself
@@backwoodyben4360 just think about it for a sec. Picture in your mind. How sick would be a 15 stair pressure flip? I would fuck with that tho. That sounds fucked!
In this discussion we are talking about Jeff. My skate skills are totally irrelevant. That’s not what we are talking about right now.
I prefer proper inward heels over Jeff’s inward heels. But I’ve been saying for years that Daewon and Joey Brezinsky did it the same way too. It’s not a pressure flip I have been saying that for years too.
@bovedli that's cool man call it what you want homie still did something buck down the 15 and if you are hating or correcting what he did but can't do anything close to the same you kind of are just a Goof or hater
I'm so glad you gave the big board a try and having fun. Ive been skating more in the last few years than I ever did after high school. Started riding big boards with big wheels because theyre great getting around but eventually started doing more with it and it was great fun
There’s this dude at my local that can do inward Heelflips the correct way and people will still call them a pressure flip 🤦♂️
There’s a difference but people are gonna hate no matter what.
Rad Rat My Goat
shocked its not pressure, but you convinced me. his style while still kinda bad, isnt nearly as bad as it use to be. there is almost a Jeremy Klein quality about it. but Klein makes the awkwardness look good
We needa normalize Jeff style with the “Jeff flop steez” basically a trick u land lower than where u popped it some examples “ 540 treyflop, nollie trippleflop, 360 inwardflop”
Negative. I mean, you do you, but... Nahh That's devolution. Negative progression. No hate just saying
Thanks for answering my question dude! I knew i saw some flick!
long time RR, good to see ya....
Like bryan arnette said jeff mobs all his tricks, he flicks down instead at the peak
he didnt say ALL his tricks😭
@@hospitalheeloopsie 😂
Ok I was curious if you were riding that big board. Glad to hear you're liking it, I've recently set up a big board (10.5) and am surprised with how much I'm liking it too.
And he wears a 15 yr old never washed krew hoodie. And skates a KFC x Black Flag collab board
That doesn’t matter. He could be rocking the limited edition Lucien Clarke Louis Vuitton pro model, he’d still look the worst on a fucking skateboard.
Yo radrat love the content man dont ever stop you have a unique position in skate tube
Ehats crazy is you can see his tail actually landed on the 2nd atair, took all the impact with his rear wheels not even on the 1st stair. They then go onto the 1st stair and fire cracker down it.
This was amazing, thank you!!!!
he does them cleaner than i ever could. i only ever learned preasure style and that shit was so ugly. pressure flips in general were my jam
It’s a pressure when he does regular and fakie, his nollie and switch are inwards
"If it was fun to do it" - Im into this too. Thanks RR! Inspiring
he cant keep getting away with this
The one in this video is definitely a inward heel but he doesn’t always do them like this, his one in that contest has the foot further to the side.
Thanks Radrat!
we all love jeff!! its a good topic of discussion though
Jeffwon does super tech tricks with so little style it makes him hard to watch without completely cringing
Dang your pressure flip is nice
Watching this to find out if my inwards actually count 😂 good breakdown! I always figured his were inwards but just looked kinda weird
I love the trick analysis dude! Sadly, we don't hear enough about the mechanics of tricks or how foot placement/pressure gets you crazy stuff like full flips and dolphin flips. Or maybe I'm just growing tired of the same kickflip/heelflip variations when there's way more actual trick selection out there. Lol
100% pressure flip, no debate
I find it easier to get my front foot out of the way lower on the board similar to Jeff. Looks ugly but at least it gets around
If Jeff worried about how his tricks looked we'd know lmao
Always order boards in sets of 5-10 of the exact same board. I can't change
Goat
It is the equivalent of a terrible kicked down mob hardflip just backside. He sucks. I always hated the guy and his style with passion. It is what it is. Im not proud of it and not encouraging anyone to hate on Jeff’s skating, but I personally hate it. Everything he lands is terrible
As much as i support and love the guy. I think he does cheat a little but if you found a hack around a certain trick,
Especially a hard trick like an inward heel flip, wouldnt you use it and abuse it too?
Would you call a muska flip a cheat frontside flip? You gotta have steez and bro is the antithesis
To me, Muska flips are harder, so it couldn't really be a cheat. They're definitely something all their own though
@@RadRatVideofr calling a muska flip a frontside flip is an insult to both tricks
Why don’t you have a patron or something so we can support you more?
#skatesceneinvestigator
Verdict is in ..Inward not pressure.
That first clip didn't look like an inward it looked like a pressure flip
We need more of this, tired of seeing tony hawk games .
That shirt is on fire.
Jeff has the worst style in the world of all time.
i agree. Jeffwon for prison1
He does lol
Heroin 9.5 heroin egg is the bomb!.
More vids plzzzz
I've got so many on the way, you don't even know. Buckle up
@@RadRatVideo can’t wait!!!!
@@RadRatVideo I’m buckled up 😇😎☀️
Hahaha I am shocked. I legit thought zero chance at inward heel. But I am convinced. It's a standard no pop, bad style inward heel. Sorry, nothing personal, just truth. Also, fight me, but Daewon's weren't very pretty either. Better, but not a proper looking one even like the ones you had filmed. Guess it is all in the technique. Also, I can't do it either way so who cares what I say, haha.
Na there legit just trash style makes them look other wise. But his style has been getting much better recently…
haha remember the kelly hart nine club thing and we were all planning to go to the nine club headquarters and beat kelly up but Rad Rat made a follow up video telling us not to beat kelly up
Pressure flip
Holy shit, can we not just skate and let people skate?
Lmao I love that there is so much debate on this...also Jeff has the worst style.
Woohoo
Oh, Lord... Please don't get like Dan Web's. 😏
SKEE SKEE
IS THE INDY LOGO RACIST?
Dude has the worst style ever
hes a cheater in all of his tricks, and sucks at skateboards
Oh god again this.. he’s gonna start a fight with another skater again. Here we go 🙄
worse style ever
Dumbest name in skateboarding
hey AndyTHPS if you're reading this
This 'inward heel' is ugly 😂