When you've played the first gen games over 40 times (I lost count after that) and the 2nd gen games at least over 20 times it's pretty hard to forget that Togepi is a gen 2 Pokemon.
My thoughts exactly, I feel like only fans thats didn't start with gen 1 or were toddlers wouldn't have known that. Did these people not learn the pokerap? lol
When you mentioned castforms hail form, I immediately remembered that it actually helped me beat Winona, because the combination of hail and weather ball made it an easy win against her Altaria. If it wasn’t for that, I probably would have forgotten it tbh.
"Who would bring a Castform to face the Elite 4?" Ozone: You dare challenge me Mortal? I fought every trainer in Hoenn alone and never fainted! And that includes Steven!
Hey, all I'm saying is smallant had a speedrun of emerald where every pokemon was randomized. And he had rayquaza and it turned into cast form. and cast form soloed the champ
Yeah same Of course there are some Pokémon I never immediately think of tho. But if someone told me any (German) Pokémon name I'll have a picture of it in my head for example if someone told me to name any fighting type Pokémon I don't think I'd ever answer Croagunk But if someone said "ya know this poison fighting frog pokemon thingy?" I'd immediately think of Croagunk or Toxicroak (And now that I wrote that I think ill actually say Croagunk pretty often if someone tells me to name a fighting type)
Totally agree with Lugia's typing. When I was younger, I had it narrowed down to those three while trying to catch it, and still didn't know what types it was until I checked the PC.
I really liked Stantler when it was first introduced -- at that point in the game, your starter's most likely in its middle form, you've just gotten past Whitney and Sudowoodo, and here's this rare encounter that's a pretty beastly pure-Normal with Stomp (very powerful move at the time with a chance of causing a flinch) and confusion-based attacks. Granted, on the very next route you can encounter Tauros and Miltank, both slower but more powerful Normal-types that also have Stomp, so it doesn't stay impressive for long.... I thought it was cute when they brought it back with a Christmas skin in Pokémon GO though.
I honestly tried hard to have Carbink on my Kalos team. I was impressed by it's defensive stats but that little thing just didn't have the speed or power to keep up in competition. Same with Minior, it was cute and came in different colours but yeah, same issues.
I used a stantler recently for a soul silver nuzlocke and I taught it hidden power. Turns out it was a ghost type hidden power so it knew hypnosis too so mprty couldn’t even touch me and I was super effective. Blitzen was MVP that fight.
I didn't forget anything on this lol Btw the reason that Lugia is psychic, flying is because at the time, psychic was a powerful the showed something was a legendary
Honestly I didn’t even know mothim existed until either I found a gap in my dex in Pokémon go or Pokémon home, or aDrive mentioned it in one of his videos
@@frankzhang866 I never played gen 1-5 because I started playing 2 years ago though mothims shiny is like my 2nd favorite because the blue on it is super good
How about for a more forgettable Pokemon? Like maybe the Beeheeyem line or the fish line from gen 4 I forget the name of... Beeheeyem because even Gamefreak forgot it (in gen 5 TM 25 was confuse ray but Steel Wing in gen 6, and it could learn it still in gen 6 most likely because they forgot). The gen 4 fish line because I can remember almost every single Pokemon in the game, but those two specific Pokemon.
I think furfrou should be here, in the anime it was introduced in ep 5 or something and game freak decided to slap furfrou pointlessly during the kalos league.
Dobbs: Stantler has not gotten any love since 2001 Wyrdeer (LITERALLY STANTLERS EVOLUTION IN LEGENDS ARCEUS): This is the most outdated f&$kin sh1t I’ve ever seen
iirc when asked about why Lugia wasn't a water type it was because it was supposed to be powerful and during gen 1 leading to gen 2 psychic types were intentionally overpowered and they reasoned it would make it feel more powerful to play as. Also Lugia was originally going to be a movie onpy pokemon according to its designer with no initial plans to bring it into the games
Being someone who can't get the games following USUM due to not having a Switch, Carbink was a shocker for me. I see them way too often when seeking out Rockruff and other Pokemon.
Despite never using one i love Stantler and find it tough to fight if used properly in doubles, if it can get it's enemies to sleep it could allow you to get a sweeper in if you use Hypnosis Follow Me Combo. Idk i like stantler i want it to get a new evolution
If people were forgetting that Lugia was a water/psychic type, I’d imagine people similarly forgot that Palkia is water/dragon because nothing about its design suggests water.
Woulda put Grumpig on here tbh, didnt even know it existed until 2016, always forget it’s spoons’s evo too, always thought both didn’t evolve and were their own species
Stantler in HGSS has the frisk ability, you can use one to find all the lucky eggs or light balls you could ever want. I used to give lucky eggs in trades all the time cause of old Stantler.
Stantler was one of my favorites from the second generation been hoping for a comeback for years but nothing has happened and nothing will probably ever happen unfortunately
4:40 Dobbs:" so this is the pokenon that ash own in the shortest time. Me:"yea probobly he never catch a beedrill and give it away after 2 seconds after ash catch it".
I remember stantler as that deer Pokemon only because the first time I ever saw it in the anime with the day before I went hunting for the first time lol
Stantler will now never be forgotten as after like 23 years Game freak took interestin it and gave it an evolution in the upcomming Legends Arceus game
Forgotten Pokémon for me is: Huntail and Gorebyss- I didn’t have friends to trade Clamperl in Sapphire so I didn’t bother with them Slugma and Magcargo- thought they were Gen 3 Skarmory- also thought it was Gen 3
Technically Togepi was premiered before gen 2 came out and was promoted as the 152nd Pokémon only for that to change at a later date. So I guess the answer is both?
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You know what really is the most forgotten pokemon Bergmite and Avalug
Hypno is the most forgotten pokemon
Umm dobbs the MandJtv fans are rioting
@@لحتلتحةحخاىحاىحاة no the Creepypastas make it popular
Your beard is GLORIOUS. You need to update your guy to have that amazing beard ^o^
HAIL NO
Want me to grab a gun, or have Cast form use Weather Ball to kill him?
I searched for this comment 😂
@Sam Hogan he's verified dude
I was gonna make the same joke, guess I was an hour too late. Gg Mikey
YES BROTHER!
I didn’t forget about Carbink because I always remember how funny it is that certain Pokédex entries mention that it’s “Sableye’s favorite snack”
I can never forget about carbink even if I wanted to cuz I kept seeing it in the caves
@@nboy2673 *cries in Gen 4*
Why isn’t carbink the pre evolution to diance
@@catherineling5437 diancie is a mythical pokemon
my brother scammed me a greninja ex card for a carbink card
Dobbs: ice castform is forgettable!
Mandjtv: *anger noises*
Clap clap clap
Hail *NO!*
👍
Dobbs: Castform is forgettable
Micheal: hAiL nO
I was too late.
@@GearForce724 me too
@@GearForce724 same
Yes a pokefan
Me:does not know what castform is
Mandjtv:I will show you the world
Of castform
Dobbs: Castform is a forgotten pokemon....
Michael from MandJTV: "A FOOLISH MISCALCULATION !!!!!!!!!!"
Hail yeah!
I actually don't mind castform...also HECK IT'S A HAIL YEAH!
More like NOT SCIENTIFICALLY POSSIBLE!
Hey I'm a Castform fan
He’s in the comments
“Hail castform”
*mikey has joined the chat*
Literally
oh HAIL no.
Hail castform is my favorite of the few
Literally
Hail yeah
When you've played the first gen games over 40 times (I lost count after that) and the 2nd gen games at least over 20 times it's pretty hard to forget that Togepi is a gen 2 Pokemon.
My thoughts exactly, I feel like only fans thats didn't start with gen 1 or were toddlers wouldn't have known that. Did these people not learn the pokerap? lol
@Jonathan Hernandez probably not
the 2 people in the chat who of those favorite pokemon is stantler be like -.-
Not my all-time favorite, but definitely in the top 5. So... yeah.
Watch, Mandjtv is gonna come and have a comment about castform
Will he did
I know he did
*Congratulations, you're a prophet*
Man can see into future about when famous youtuber comments
When you mentioned castforms hail form, I immediately remembered that it actually helped me beat Winona, because the combination of hail and weather ball made it an easy win against her Altaria. If it wasn’t for that, I probably would have forgotten it tbh.
“Castform’s ice form is forgettable”
Micheal would like to know your location
Dobbs: “Castform is just really forgettable, who would use it against the elite four?”
MandJTV: *peace was never an option*
*BA DUM TSS*
Castform is one of the most forgettable pokemon
Mikey: how dare you castform rocks, hail yeah!
Wormadam? More like
Notworthadamn
.....whut?
gottem
@Dante 16 n-no?wh-what?
Oof, Wormadam needs a burn heal. XD
@@cintronproductions9430 i know !
“For Number 7 We have Castforms Ice form”
That’s gonna piss off a lot of MandJtv Fans-
It pissed off Mikey himself 😹😹
I hate castform
august gayad *HOW DARE YOu-*
@@GLARebel Do you realise m and j tv beat alpha sapphire with a castform
Hail yeah
"Who would bring a Castform to face the Elite 4?"
Ozone: You dare challenge me Mortal? I fought every trainer in Hoenn alone and never fainted! And that includes Steven!
Hey, all I'm saying is smallant had a speedrun of emerald where every pokemon was randomized. And he had rayquaza and it turned into cast form. and cast form soloed the champ
Klang actually dose have a face if you look closely
Bidoof
I Know I Saw It Ok Handsome
Don't worry, it's obvious
Hahaha that's fucking amazing if that is it on the big one. The to black dots for eyes and the white part for teeth
I see it.
I don’t know why some people struggle to remember Pokémon. I remember all Pokémon besides the gen 8 ones (I’m still getting used to them).
@Ligma GD that would mean that you are everywhere too. They just don't remember you
So you really know what a bruxish is nice
Yeah same
Of course there are some Pokémon I never immediately think of tho.
But if someone told me any (German) Pokémon name I'll have a picture of it in my head
for example if someone told me to name any fighting type Pokémon I don't think I'd ever answer Croagunk
But if someone said "ya know this poison fighting frog pokemon thingy?" I'd immediately think of Croagunk or Toxicroak
(And now that I wrote that I think ill actually say Croagunk pretty often if someone tells me to name a fighting type)
Gen 8 is trash
@@TheCronq the game maybe, but the pokemon are actually some of the coolest
Mandjtv's reaction to ice castform: hell no
Hail*
Hail*
Hail*
Hail not he’ll you idiot
Literally everyone is correcting you
I could never forget Carbink. Steven uses one on his post-game ORAS team.
Yeah I see it’s Pokémon card a lot in my collection a lot.
Also it turns into Diancie
@@MariOmor1 Carbink can't turn into Diancie. They just have a strong relationship between each other.
@@andrewkatz5689 The Pokedex says that Diancie is an alternate version of Carbink.
@@MariOmor1 Ah! That makes sense.
Do you mean the “Saint (St.)” Anne?
SN: I thought it was the S.S. Anne 🤷🏽♂️
Wow that itself is forgetible
It is both, most commonly known as SS thoo
Totally agree with Lugia's typing. When I was younger, I had it narrowed down to those three while trying to catch it, and still didn't know what types it was until I checked the PC.
Dude, I even thought him as a dragon type ngl
@@Geto_Chan it as a dragon makes more sense than psychic
@@tinychester4382 yea ik
Micheal when he hears that cast form is forgettable: A Foolish miscalculation
Its supposed to be like
A FOOLISH MISCALCULATION!!!!!!!!
Thanks for the like
I really liked Stantler when it was first introduced -- at that point in the game, your starter's most likely in its middle form, you've just gotten past Whitney and Sudowoodo, and here's this rare encounter that's a pretty beastly pure-Normal with Stomp (very powerful move at the time with a chance of causing a flinch) and confusion-based attacks. Granted, on the very next route you can encounter Tauros and Miltank, both slower but more powerful Normal-types that also have Stomp, so it doesn't stay impressive for long....
I thought it was cute when they brought it back with a Christmas skin in Pokémon GO though.
I honestly tried hard to have Carbink on my Kalos team. I was impressed by it's defensive stats but that little thing just didn't have the speed or power to keep up in competition. Same with Minior, it was cute and came in different colours but yeah, same issues.
I used a stantler recently for a soul silver nuzlocke and I taught it hidden power. Turns out it was a ghost type hidden power so it knew hypnosis too so mprty couldn’t even touch me and I was super effective. Blitzen was MVP that fight.
6:16
Cast form hail form is so forgetable!
MandJTV and his fans: HAIL NO
I thought golduck was going to be on this list because I forget it is a pure water type. With the info, I thought it was part psychic.
I didn't forget anything on this lol
Btw the reason that Lugia is psychic, flying is because at the time, psychic was a powerful the showed something was a legendary
Why would you have a castform for elite four?
Hmm say that to Mahdrybread, mandjtv , etc
I think I will try beating the elite four with a castform also could be a great challenge
Well, picking a terrible pokemon is part of the challenge so...
So what
Honestly I didn’t even know mothim existed until either I found a gap in my dex in Pokémon go or Pokémon home, or aDrive mentioned it in one of his videos
I like mothim. Used it on my gen 4 team and it killed the roserade of cynthia and a few other of the E4 pokemins
@@frankzhang866 I never played gen 1-5 because I started playing 2 years ago though mothims shiny is like my 2nd favorite because the blue on it is super good
Love that I got to hear the bts. Love your intros Dobbs, they are one of the things that make you truly unique in your field!! Keep it up!
He just copies them from comic strips, look on pintrest for long enough you'll see them
Dobbs:-raticate is ash's most forgetful and short-lived pokemon
Beedrill:-hold my beer
This time also, the intro was really awesome!
Yo, I didn’t know Barney was a Pokémon.
Bet his new move is “I love you” type shit
I loved that shiny, I wish they never changed it
I like how at this point stantler finally got love with an evolution
This talk about togepi kinda makes me want the eggs in bed merch come back
Castform: is on the forgettable list
Me: Hail naw
Doggy zygarde is truly a cool looking pokemon. I remember using it but when I realized that collecting cells = no more puppy I threw him into a box.
6:18
Mandjtv viewers : *angry noises*
Dobbs talking about Castform
Mikey: YOU DARE CHALLENGE ME?!?!?!?!?
Lol
Dobbs : Why would u have a castform for elite four.
Michael and Jack : Let's do a Castform beating challenge .....
14:23 Similar to how I felt seeing Latias was a Dragon/Psychic that couldn't learn Flamethrower but other dragons and even Slowpoke. SLOWPOKE can
flamethrower is a fire type move not a dragon type
Wyrdeer: imma pretend I didn't see that
Ikr
"Dobbs, You're a F***ing Genus!"
How about for a more forgettable Pokemon? Like maybe the Beeheeyem line or the fish line from gen 4 I forget the name of... Beeheeyem because even Gamefreak forgot it (in gen 5 TM 25 was confuse ray but Steel Wing in gen 6, and it could learn it still in gen 6 most likely because they forgot). The gen 4 fish line because I can remember almost every single Pokemon in the game, but those two specific Pokemon.
You're
@@PansyPops Beeheeyeem line isn't forgettable bruh.
Imma say:
"I guess idiots can't be hypnotized"
Also Super Mystery Dunjeon xd
@@PansyPops Fineon and lumineon? My spelling are wrong though
@@rfreakingd8992 no I think it's good
He forgot that these Pokemon were ment to be forgotten.
I think furfrou should be here, in the anime it was introduced in ep 5 or something and game freak decided to slap furfrou pointlessly during the kalos league.
This is more accurate than the aura guardian's list. He's most forgettable pokemon list is just 70% hated pokemon 30% actually forgettable
6:15 Dobby : Castforms hail form is forgetabble
MandJTV : Doubt
Is nobody gonna talk about how dobbs did the long awaited face reveal
He’s shown his face before
Dobbs: Stantler has not gotten any love since 2001
Wyrdeer (LITERALLY STANTLERS EVOLUTION IN LEGENDS ARCEUS): This is the most outdated f&$kin sh1t I’ve ever seen
who could ever forget KLANG!?!?!?!?! Top tier design
Actually all 10 items on this list I've never forgotten and I often think about them
I prefer the purple charizard but people realy like the colour black
@@PaulJeffries56. I also preferred the purple but I may be biased since purple is my fav color
@@Violet_Floofer same its my favourite aswell and the green is pretty good on it
@@PaulJeffries56.I find that green is often a good pairing for purple
The funny thing is I like all these Pokémon...
Same...
Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
iirc when asked about why Lugia wasn't a water type it was because it was supposed to be powerful and during gen 1 leading to gen 2 psychic types were intentionally overpowered and they reasoned it would make it feel more powerful to play as. Also Lugia was originally going to be a movie onpy pokemon according to its designer with no initial plans to bring it into the games
Dobbs: Number 1:Stantler
Gamefreak:We are gonna change that
I'll never forget about Castform, I liked using it to beat Winona's Altaria... in Ice Form!
Dobb’s Cartoon: Buff Mountain Climber Chad
Dobb IRL: Pregnant.
'it looks like a baseball stuck between its buttcheeks"
-Dobbs 2020
Being someone who can't get the games following USUM due to not having a Switch, Carbink was a shocker for me. I see them way too often when seeking out Rockruff and other Pokemon.
Despite never using one i love Stantler and find it tough to fight if used properly in doubles, if it can get it's enemies to sleep it could allow you to get a sweeper in if you use Hypnosis Follow Me Combo. Idk i like stantler i want it to get a new evolution
6:15 *angry MandJTV noises*
Edit: Five seconds later, I noticed 99% of the comments are about MandJTV
One like = one Hail Yeah
k
I love how the castform one uses Asgore’s theme
If people were forgetting that Lugia was a water/psychic type, I’d imagine people similarly forgot that Palkia is water/dragon because nothing about its design suggests water.
0:33 How'd I know that this would be the staff meeting meme before it even happened? Even though this is my first time watching it.
I like Dobbs
I do too
You are first not me
Congrats on being first
Luiga's types make sense cuz being psychic is like moving stuff which means he can probably move water.
Reshiram is underrated while entei is overrated
Never watched the vid yet but there's scientific evidence that Reshiram is way better than Entei
Woulda put Grumpig on here tbh, didnt even know it existed until 2016, always forget it’s spoons’s evo too, always thought both didn’t evolve and were their own species
Stantler in HGSS has the frisk ability, you can use one to find all the lucky eggs or light balls you could ever want. I used to give lucky eggs in trades all the time cause of old Stantler.
Stantler was one of my favorites from the second generation been hoping for a comeback for years but nothing has happened and nothing will probably ever happen unfortunately
At least stantler has a evolution now
4:40
Dobbs:" so this is the pokenon that ash own in the shortest time.
Me:"yea probobly he never catch a beedrill and give it away after 2 seconds after ash catch it".
15:22 heh, guess what
Yeah, wyrdeer helped stantler a lot
I’m surprised that tropius isn’t on this list
I remember stantler as that deer Pokemon only because the first time I ever saw it in the anime with the day before I went hunting for the first time lol
dobbs:"stantler is the most forgettable pokemon" later did he know
Castform has always been one of my favorites lol I def kept him throughout the rest of sapphire, elite four and all lol😭
I used to think that lugia was water rock because the clouds of dust in soulsilver look like rocks
Well number one aged well, didn’t it.
Stantler will now never be forgotten as after like 23 years Game freak took interestin it and gave it an evolution in the upcomming Legends Arceus game
6:16 I would say hail yeah because its castform but HAIL NO CASTFORM IS GREAT
*Carbink gets an evolution*
Eviolite: “Hey”
I play GO during christmas events, and I remember Stantler for one reason. Jingle Bell Christmas forme
Absolutely remember all the times getting frustrated trying to catch a Stantler in GS. Always thought it and Girafarig were sooo good when I was young
King, Klang and Klinklank are defenitly one of the most forgettable. Its so forgettable people remember it as being the most forgettable.
I've always known Togepi was gen 2. Because of game guides and the very book you mentioned. Togepi doesn't have a dex number in it.
Take a shot every time Dobbs says “so yeah”
I really wish they would freshen up some older shinies like they did for Charizard. Had no clue he used to be purple!
Yes, zygardec was definitely forgotten, that's why he was a major focus of not 1 but 2 generations, completely forgotten
well stantler got some love in legends arceus being a ride pokemon and evolving
Bro dragalge is so forgettable even videos made to remember forgettable Pokemon don't include them 💀
Dobbs you are way wrong for ice castform that’s a hail no!
Dobbs-Hail form castform is forgetable
I -There is literally a slogan that saves demonitization."Hail yeah!"
Forgotten Pokémon for me is:
Huntail and Gorebyss- I didn’t have friends to trade Clamperl in Sapphire so I didn’t bother with them
Slugma and Magcargo- thought they were Gen 3
Skarmory- also thought it was Gen 3
Technically Togepi was premiered before gen 2 came out and was promoted as the 152nd Pokémon only for that to change at a later date. So I guess the answer is both?
3:32 Wild Charizard appeared!
12:21 Wild Togepi appeared!
wait, what?
I like how number 7 has asgore theme because the 7 souls
your intros are always the best my friend