Major Wheel of Time News! - Season 3 Is Coming!

[@nathanhall9345]

I would bet that the opening 15 minutes are the Black Ajah raiding the storerooms and Liandrin taking off. Sisters were killed in that raid, though it happens off-screen in the books. It'd make for a bombastic opening, inciting incident, and set up the coup for ep 3-4, which feels more on track for me.

[@reecewilliams8349]

That would be great honestly

[@NickMeisher]

The writers need to stick to the material and not get airs that they have any talent.

[@larrydaniels15]

Agree with this 💯

[@Mrsangeandbella]

I love this idea. Especially because so many of the Sisters we have already seen on screen will be revealed to be BA.

[@williamdugan119]

Yep. This is a much better interpretation of the facts. And it jives with the shows pattern of showing things on screen that is off screen in the books. Besides, show watchers would want to see this event. Just saying “oh they got away” will not be enough

[@8mask]

I had similar thoughts about the "first 15 minutes" discussion; I think it's too early for Suian getting deposed, but I think it could be Liandrin and the BA sisters fighting and escaping the tower

[@lluewhyn]

Plus most of the bloodshed happened from the Warders fighting the Younglings, didn't it? Siuan and Leane were shield, captured in air, and then stilled. I don't recall lots of sisters throwing fireballs at each other.

[@RiseeRee]

I’m so happy that Spiderman quotes survived the Breaking 😂😅

[@khanktinga]

But they were perverted and reversed in meaning and message.

[@RiseeRee]

@@khanktinga Yes exactly! I love how that aligns with the theme of meanings being lost over time. It also highlights how Elaida tends to interpret things somewhat incorrectly.

[@RyanWMann-oj3hq]

I can’t decide if I’m more pumped to see glass columns or Nynaeve vs. Moghedien in season 3

[@lisadonaldson5132]

These two, and we get the Battle of Emonds Field as a cherry on top! I am so excited!

[@kylahhyche565]

I can't wait to see Moghedien and Nynaeve showdown

[@Fawst]

Am I the only one who is confused by the apparent skipping of the Stone of Tear and Rand obtaining Callandor? I haven't seen anyone address it, no matter how many times I see people mention that S3 is going to cover The Shadow Rising.

[@shenneald1092]

This show is shameful

[@j.s.173]

He will find it in Rhuidean.

[@stephengrant4841]

Yeah I have no clue where they're going with that, it's kind of crazy considering how important Callandor is as a plot device but also narratively and thematically.

[@Tauramehtar]

I don't want to remember the show.
I've only seen the first season, and there isn't enough mental bleach to remove it from my mind.
Still one of the best fantasy BOOK series of all time though

[@TheLouis1973]

I’ve read the wheel of time series start to finish 3 times. One of the greatest fantasy series of all time.
Yet, I couldn’t even get through the first episode of the tv show. I didn’t even recognize any of the characters I was watching

[@Tauramehtar]

@@TheLouis1973 The worst kind of modern fan fiction. I'm glad I'm not alone in this boat.
I consider WoT to be the second greatest piece of fantasy fiction by an author behind Tolkien's works.
It's really disappointing to me that WoT wasn't given the same level of love and loyalty as what Jackson gave when he produced his films.

[@Hamish_Whitehaven]

its really the best example of how to destroy an adaption in the first episode.... it dont get better, thanks Rave...

[@sharonschultz567]

I quit expecting it to be anything like the books and have been able to enjoy the show for what it is

[@WkurzonaWrona]

​@@sharonschultz567me too

[@GentleGiantJason]

On Road to Tar Valon they were suggesting the first 15 minutes could be the 13 sisters escape from the tower turns violent. Maybe a terangreal raid

[@NaeBlis]

Agreed that’s a possibility

[@monsterlair]

"With great responsibility comes great power."
You KNOW whoever wrote that line cackled like a witch when he/she came up with it. 😄

[@Mrsangeandbella]

Haha, yes, when I read that I thought the same!

[@monsterlair]

@@Mrsangeandbella "Frank, my dear, I don't give a damnly."

[@Lightning_Lance]

Yeah I was thinking no way could that be the final dialogue, but it actually works for her though. It's a very Aes Sedai thing to say xD

[@carolbriscoe9337]

Welcome back! Good to see and hear you again. Glad you're optimistic about a season 4. I admit to being worried. Every streaming service has announced cutting back on expenditures. WoT is a very expensive production what with the various costumes and locations used for shooting. Bezos didn't become wealthy by being a heavy spender.

[@Matt_Diamond_]

It takes sooo long for the season to come out that I just don't care anymore. I'm just gonna reread the books and whenever it comes out, it comes out. I'm not even sure imma watch it

[@Finnssssss]

I'm just excited to finally get a season that wasn't screwed over for Covid or Strikes not to mention we're into books 4+ woooohoooo!!!
Looking forward to actual promoting of the show again.

[@scpatl4now]

Yea! Wheel of Time news!

[@bobburris4445]

" the first 15 minutes"could be the cold opening of Ep 1 showing the deposing of Siune

[@athomenotavailable]

Or it could be Siuan dealing with the mess that Elaida mentioned. I imagine the black and red are taking the opportunity to accuse Siuan of allowing Falme and also that her fishwife Moiraine was a df so she is probably one too.

[@athomenotavailable]

So basically squabbling in the Hall followed by the ajah diplomacy later on in the season and then secretly voting to depose her. That secret vote would be quite a scene, especially when the last ajah stands to vote for her deposement and stilling.

[@juntadna]

I think the first 15 minutes is Egwene's accepted test.

[@Kyle-my5il]

I think introducing Elaida in the same episode as the schism could be brilliant, especially if there is Black Ajah moving in the background being directed by an obscure character. Eliada's rise to power would establish the theory that she is BA, much like book readers suspected until the last few books

[@allanjones1321]

Like others, I think the first 15 min is black ajah taking the angreal, etc, and setting up the Tanchico storyline for Elayne, Nynaeve, Thom and Julin (perhaps or maybe Mat) - and we get the action that received only a cursory coverage in the books. This, plus Siuan losing Rand to Lanfear and Moiraine (with help from Verin) will allow time for Elaida to build support in the Tower and the coup probably a few episodes later.

[@j0llyblackgiant]

The tower civil war can be the start of the season and the lead up to it could be shown later as flashbacks throughout the 1st and maybe 2nd episodes.

[@anydaynow01]

I keep forgetting how massive you are (in a good way!) until I see a photo of you with another person, they need to give you a cameo role as an Ogier, that would be too awesome!

[@NaeBlis]

lol it’s usually what surprises people the most when they meet me

[@Hamish_Whitehaven]

@@NaeBlis let him be Shaidar Haran..

[@poneill65]

@1:06 Jordan Studios needs a better bloody sign!
All those extremey talented set builders and the studio frontage looks like they hired a teenager with a bedsheet, a pot of paint and a stencil!

[@NaeBlis]

lol they don’t really want anyone knowing what it is. It’s a refurbished truck factory lol

[@LeeTurnock-zy2dg]

Good to see you back.
I hope they give Rand, Mat and Perrin more prominence. I suspect theyll spend a lot of time focussing on Nynaeve's block due to her ineptitude in S2e8 and thr reveal of Moggy.
Cant escape the elephant in the room. 2 year gaps between seasons will not work in its favour.

[@stephengrant4841]

They absolutely need to give more to Rand. Make him active in the plot instead of reactive and actually give him something to do, hopefully something impressive, too. Same applies for Mat and Perrin, really.

[@jamesmacleod9382]

Who are Mat, Rand and Perrin? Are they in this show? I'm of the opinion that like the Aes Sedai, the writers think Rand is just someone that they can forget about and prop up in front of the Dark One when the time comes.

[@JaysSavvy]

Rafe: "Aes Sedai appear ageless." That must mean post-menopausal.
Absolutely loathe this fanfic.

[@UnbelieverInME]

"Shredding" would seem to refer more to a verbal dressing down.

[@jonathanwhitmore8419]

Great Video! I love your measured takes and realism! Glad you’re back!

[@tristanmattwig8541]

Shohreh for elaida omg perfect

[@metaldave08096]

My mind is blown, cannot wait to see her perfect that character; “Men, what do they need to channel for? Too emotionally unstable, gentle them all, and why not cut off their fucking balls while we’re at it? We’ll keep a few good ones for breeding purposes of course.”

[@lisascankdealejo6447]

The time between seasons kills me😅 I know there are reasons for it I just hate the wait because I'm impatient.

[@NaeBlis]

I feel that completely lol

[@arkainonreaper]

How can you even watch it? What do you get out of it? I literally cannot fathom how anyone could like this.
I'm generally very open minded, and I fully understand that different people can like different things, but I've watched Season 1 twice and tried to slog through Season 2 before giving up all hope. I cannot objectively find *anything* good to say about the series. Except maybe the scenery is nice? They did a good job building the sets? Otherwise, the acting is flat, the pace is rushed, except all the time they've wasted with Moiraine in the tub, the story doesn't feel cohesive, no character has enough on-screen time to build an emotional connection or investment with, the lines are stilted, the actors don't seem to know how emotions work (except the guy playing Perrin, who only knows how to be depressed about accidentally killing his wife who didn't even exist except to die so he could be even more conflicted, when there was no reason at all to add that to the story)

[@d.rock2224]

On a sort of unrelated note, I just think Wheel of Time needs to be a Anime style animated television show. Then it can be as visually impressive as they want, can be as book accurate as people want, and you dont have to worry about the length of the show aging out the actors (since live action would take like 20 years to do the full series). Plus I just think the series would be amazing in that medium.

[@Hamish_Whitehaven]

i dont care for anime

[@d.rock2224]

@@Hamish_Whitehaven But is it just the fact that it is animated that you don't care for or is it the content?

[@FullFNCode]

This is the way. For most book fans anyway. Arcane and several other good animated shows recently showed us that.

[@d.rock2224]

@@FullFNCode and I have so many fantasy anime that are so impressive in every way. Wheel of time and any other fantasy series really (I'm looking at you Stormlight) would be soooo good.

[@Lightning_Lance]

Aging in-show isn't really a problem imo, the whole story taking just 2 years isn't needed, it feels like a much longer journey. The real problem is it just taking way too long to make the whole show in real life.

[@ljc6181]

I am amazed that you have kept such a positive attitude through this mess. It is your gift! I think it is odd to say that this may following the material more closely, but then all the examples suggest changed material. If it is as good as they say it is - strange, they have said that each season and have not delivered.

[@bcfortenberry]

Appreciate your coverage. Hoping for an animated version in the future.

[@cladiosanchez6865]

Im going to be negative here. I. A long long long time book fan, and this show is just pissing me off so bad. Im tired of people writing bad fan fiction of worlds I love. This show needs to either end or change from the ground up. It needs a whole reboot because the world they built has been so fundamentally changed that the characters i love are shadows of where they should be. If it had changed for the better, i would not be upset, but it's just bad. My wife has never read the books (give it time. I'll have her reading that and malazan soon enough) and she likes the world, but agrees that characters feel stunted and not consistent in what they believe. I have very little hope they can right the ship, but knowing what we have in the books and what this show is just makes me so very sad. I expect it to eventually be canceled, and someone else will get the rights, and we will see a more faithful adaptation of the books.

[@margaretspencer8103]

Me too! Terrible show so far. I keep waiting for them to save themselves but season 2 was 10x worse than season 1. I'm almost to the, I give in, I'm not watching

[@shamancarmichael5305]

Perhaps the first 15 minutes is a battle leading to just before the deposition, but then after the credits they flashback to what lead to the opening? It is more satisfying to have something exciting right out of the gate, especially since we have been waiting so long!! I'm not getting any younger here, Amazon!

[@cherrimlucas3354]

I listened to the audiobooks after I watched the first season of the show. I love the show & expected to love the books much more. However, knowing most people will spaz, I didn't enjoy the books at all & gave up after book 4 or 5. I freaking love the show! It's one of my favorites! I've hated how long we have to wait between seasons! I hope things will get better & that seasons will b able to come out faster since the writers strikes r over. Anyway, great fan of the show & super excited for season 3 to FINALLY come out!

[@JimmyOlsson]

Great to see you back!

[@debbidunn639]

Maybe the first 15 minutes will be the seanchan attacking the tower and the deposing fight will be in a flashback in a later episode.

[@joshuamcfadden427]

I was thinking the opening scene would be a flash back to the age of legends before the breaking. Forsaken battling those on the light for the dark one.

[@Simon-kt2lx]

For the post production, it has been now 2 complete months of work and also, if Rings of Power S2 took 1 year of post production, with all due respect of the prod on WoT, it should not take the same amount of time to complete it.

[@justinchapin9789]

I wonder if theyll introduce Elaida after the battle is over.

[@retekjorr]

I think the "shredding" is figurative and just being used to describe arguing, and is likely the sisters in the Hall of the Tower arguing and tearing into each other/the Amyrlin

[@bagladysendtheferalspinner3761]

Thanks for the information.

[@joshhirth8933]

I hope the long periods between seasons doesn’t turn away casual fans

[@Hamish_Whitehaven]

it will of course its just way to long

[@stephengrant4841]

It isn't good enough on its own for casual fans to remember it, frankly. If it were a show on the caliber of GoT then theres a chance the casual fans could stay excited during a two year break but frankly its not, to casuals it looks like any other crappy fantasy show the likes of which Netflix makes routinely.

[@jonallen6851]

Whilst the storeroom raid is the most likely, the show could start with Suian being deposed and then have "Two days earlier" or similar......

[@gaiden81]

bonkers 15 minutes is min's vision

[@DarkClaw0912]

Could the bonkers 15 mins be the taking of the Stone? Could refer to Aiel maidens. I know its a long shot, but taking the Stone and obtaining Callandor would be a cool opening.

[@reecewilliams8349]

Great to see you back legend

[@lluewhyn]

If we have a scene like the leaked interview script for Elaida, it makes a lot more sense for the opening battle of Aes Sedai fighting to be Liandrin and the Black Sisters leaving the tower, unless we're talking about some kind of non-linear (*Record Scratch*) "Wait, let's back up and explain how things got to this point" moment, which I don't expect for a variety of reasons.

[@NaeBlis]

I think this could be true

[@Al_Ellisande]

"Yeah, that's me. Suian Sanche, Watcher of the Seals etc, wrapped up warm but feeling cold, alone and terrified, and there's this shameless hussy to my right..."

[@chrisrygh6838]

I feel bad about how she got skipped over on s2 . Why the white tower? Rand sitting on a wall and falling into the gardens would have been better.

[@jdtcskate]

This new trend of a series dropped its new SHORT season every two years is really depressing.

[@jonahdav9589]

Rafe Jenkins WOT is garbage. Listen to what RR Martin just said.
George R.R. Martin calls out producers and screenwriters who change things from the books
"Everywhere you look, there are more screenwriters and producers eager to take great stories and “make them their own.” It does not seem to matter whether the source material was written by Stan Lee ... Ian Fleming, Roald Dahl, Ursula K. Le Guin, J.R.R. Tolkien, Mark Twain ... Jane Austen, or… well, anyone. No matter how major a writer it is, no matter how great the book, there always seems to be someone on hand who thinks he can do better, eager to take the story and “improve” on it. “The book is the book, the film is the film,” they will tell you, as if they were saying something profound. Then they make the story their own. They never make it better, though. Nine hundred ninety-nine times out of a thousand, they make it worse"
Jenkins did not make it better. He made it worst.

[@ShadowsReject]

Maybe Mins vision of the deposition but seems really fast for the actual occurrence.

[@pueblonative]

What if the opening scene is the Massacre at the White Tower when the Black Ajah takes the ter'angreal?

[@biffii5568]

Even tho there were glimpses of hope throughout the season. I refuse to believe there is anything Robert Jordan left here after that botched, butchery of a season finale

[@sherbetmango]

Thank you for the news video!

[@andrewberenson5717]

I do not know which I am more happy about: WoT show news or a new Nae'Blis video. The Dark One has finally transmigrated the soul of Nae'Blis from the body of DJ Nibbles to the body of one of the principals of WotCon.
Nae'Blis has the calendar behind him. Nice.
Upon hearing rhe news that Season 3 finished shooting, my first question is not when Season 3 will air. I would be shocked if it doe not air sometime during the first 2 weeks of September 2025. Rather, the first question should be when will Amazon official confirm that Season 4 has been greenlit and filming is expected to begin sometime in (inser month of 2024).

[@JamesKGood]

I think it will be earlier as post production started last November

[@ianohlander]

I'm going to be completely honest. After 2 seasons, I have lost excitement for the show. You get burned by the changes and cluster fuck that was season 1- especially the last 3 episodes (despite what is probably the best opener of any show ever, with Shaiel at Dragonmount). Season 2 started so well- and for so much, despite minor annoyances, I was genuinely liking it....until that abortion of an finale occurred that dumped all over everything the series had set up while continuing to double down on it lopsided focus, all in an attempt to create UNEARNED moments of awesome- moments that become cheap and meaningless and vapid.
Well, the writing is the problem- specifically the focus of the showrunner.
And my honest opinion is however good season 3 is, Rafe will fuck the landing. He doesn't respect the material or audience enough to be patient and let those amazing moments be earned. He doesn't let there be subtle slow build ups.
His writing staff worked beautiful magic with Lanfear and Ishy, with Egwene and Rena. They even made a waste of time plot (which they couldn't afford) like Moiraines sister work (a mistake, given the time cost, but still well done. Just like the Steppin story.)
But no matter the beautiful work of the writers, the amazing casting and acting, the set and costume designers, the music and FX (season 2), and so on....Rafe chose to go for the cheap and pathetic unearned finale that just left ashes in my mouth.
I'm sorry. I wish I could be excited. But I'm not. No matter how promising it looks, the problem hasn't gone away. The problem is there. No matter how amazing those moments may be....
...it's the ending. It's all about the ending. And 1/4 of a presumably 8 season show has shit the bed on the landing.
I'll watch....but I won't get my hopes up. I've been burned too many times.
Especially given the peak tv Era we've had for a long time. Fallout and Shogun and Silo and Severence and Andor....and that's just the last few years!
The problems is Rafe. I don't believe he also it in him to get out of the way.

[@andrewberenson5717]

I agree with you Nae'Blis. The first 15 minutes will be the Tower change in leadership. But i think they will kill of Siuan; not just still her. I also think the conversation between Min and Elaida occurs post deposing. As with the start of Season 2, there will be a time jump between the end of Season 2 and start of Season 3. This will give Siuan and the rest of the Aes Sedai to get back to Tar Valon. Siuan will also bring Min with her. I think in the Show Min's gifts are common knowledge. At least that she sees glimpses of the future. I also believe the Min/Eladia conversation happens post deposing.
I do not think of Siuan's depossition is a coup. There was a vote. For most if the Tower, it met the bare minimum requirements. That some of the voters turned out to be Black Ajah in the books, does not in my mind change that it was a coup. In my mind, a coup is an illegal seizure of power that the participants knew it to be illegal. Most of the change in leadership thought what they did was technically legal.

[@user-ob7wy1zy9m]

So excited about season three

[@JeanPierreLevac]

can't wait for ai to accelerate that long post-production phase

[@happytotroll]

Terrible news. Just let this dumpster fire burn itself out

[@davidbryant7627]

Completely agree. It's so terrible.

[@cromcruach2958]

Whats the point it isn't like any season followed the books.

[@USCMM09]

I wonder if the first 15 minutes has anything to do with the capture/escape of Mazrim Taim. Could he have swayed some Aes Sedai to his cause?

[@RO_The_Hated]

Good to see you back at it you big Trolic

[@grn7522]

I wonder if Amazon is waiting to see how well S2 of RoP does before deciding which epic fantasy show they will continue with. Two years between mediocre seasons isnt going to work out for the long term health of either show.

[@MissSaraJames]

Love your calendar. ;-)

[@MissSaraJames]

... also ... my working theory is that the "bonkers" opening scene is the Hall of the Tower reaction to the events in Falme. Some will believe the Dragon has been reborn and seek to either support or oppose him, and others won't believe he's anything but a false Dragon. The infighting should be *chef's kiss* delicious.

[@trenzy11]

Can't wait!!

[@j.s.173]

The fanbase for the Wheel of Time is huge, especially between people now in their 40s to 70s. It could have easily been a massive success. Instead, none is talking abut this TV series, there's no hype. Judkins is a mediocre showrunner, to be kind. Amazon chose someone with almost no experience and here we go.

[@octaviatheappalled912]

What to do!? WoTCon is happening at the exact same time as The Oregon Country Fair. Probably fewer people running around sans clothes at WotCon. What to do.

[@Square_Peg]

I wish I could be excited for it, but the first two seasons were pretty bad and so I expect the next season to be bad as well.

[@taram5580]

I’m hate watching at this point

[@LapsedComicFan]

Me and my brother watch this and just laugh at how bad it is.

[@JacktheViper10]

They promised they wouldn't ruin it for woke reasons but they've essentially relegated the three boys to side characters and made the main focus on the women. I stopped halfway through season 2

[@Ccherry18]

It could be a flash forward. They could start with the battle and then spend the rest of the episode on the events leading up to it. Or it could be one of MIn visions. I know in the book she does not see the battle, but her visions work differently in the show. Also, I love the idea of Rant capturing a forsaken instead of Lanfear doing it for him.

[@QurikOfficial]

Did they skip season 2?

[@NaeBlis]

No it’s been out since last August!

[@Harldin]

I am more worried about S7-8 than S4, this is a very long project, and it looks like it has to be greenlit every 2 years for 12-16 years, big ask. Don't know of any TV project that has done this.

[@mayselc]

I'm hoping at some point they will say we have greenlit the LAST two seasons of the Wheel of Time tv show and they will be filmed and produced back to back. I could see them doing that with seasons five and six.

[@Hamish_Whitehaven]

@@mayselc how should the whole story fit into this few season with only 8 or in future even less epsiodes , they cut 80% of books then...

[@lluewhyn]

Crazy how they wanted to cut 14 books down to 8 seasons (which made sense), but THEN take like 2 years between releasing seasons.

[@mayselc]

@@Hamish_Whitehaven This is not a direct adaptation of the books. I think S3 will be an outlier in that regard (I still think we will get some book 5 at the end of the season). This is an adaptation of the series as a whole. Large chunks of the book plots will be cut and only the major arcs will be adapted.

[@j.s.173]

@@lluewhyn Because they have no idea of what they are doing.

[@CapnAhab89]

I stopped watching season 2 when Lan, the greatest swordsman in the world, is torched and barely alive after fighting Myrddraal. The problem isn’t that they change timeline or story somewhat to fit the screen, as those things would be appropriate. The writers don’t understand the material and change crucial aspects of the characters that undermine the entire fabric of the story. This show is a disgrace, all the way from the beginning of season 1. Naeblis, I know your channel is entirely based on this world, but you standing behind this show is….a sellout? A disappointment? You fill in the blank. You can make a successful channel similar to Nerd of The Rings by making great lore videos and being honest.

[@richardlouis8295]

The show has deviated to far from the books for me. I’ll hold to the works of Robert Jordan. Films NEVER make a good adaptation of the books.

[@nerdgasmicadventures]

Don't know if anyone has said this, but just because they filmed that scene first doesn't mean it is the first thing shown. It could be the last scene of the season for all we know.

[@Andrear800]

I'm guessing that the Unknown person who captured Samael might be Moghedien. Because she'll need some screen time for character development, but she's already cast so doesn't need to talk much during the audition. Did anyone else make any guesses? I'll read the other comments next!

[@KnittyElf]

Why would Sammael need to explain the Age of Legends to Moghedien, though? He was clearly talking to someone from the current age, not another Forsaken.

[@Andrear800]

@@KnittyElf good point!!!👏😀I look forward to seeing it on screen!!!!!

[@landisgoodwyn7136]

I think it's Cadsuane that has Sammael captured.

[@NagusJJP]

What if its a 15 min cold open. Maybe a flashback to AOL?

[@TommasoBarbaresi]

When shall we have the first trailer of season 3?

[@pal8h]

I worry that the fanbase for this show can't sustain such long breaks between seasons. The demand/interest is going to wane.

[@terryrogers8304]

This show is so bad, I am surprised there is a fan base. After all, most of us fans of the books left half way through season one, when it became obvious that this adaptation was terrible.

[@Build-Test-Send]

I can say with certainty…Rafe Judkins version of the wheel of time, is straight garbage!

[@js2727]

So we can see how they shield Rand and let others do the big battles. Maybe we can see why everyone should be afraid of Rand. After two season if you should fear anyone it would be Egwene.

[@sebastianc9716]

This series feels like the rings of power adaptation and the only question on my mind is: When will WoT get a Peter Jackson like treatment?

[@WheelUpTime]

Hopefully by the time it comes out theyve gotten rid of the ridiculous forced ads on prime

[@jonathanlee7373]

I still holding out hope that shohreh is playing cadsuane but she would be an amazing Elida aswell

[@barbarabailey6356]

Since they changed the whole storyline I hope that the ending of this show will be Rand don't win. Seeing how It's a portal stone storyline. Make the books end game.

[@420jturner]

Hopefully Rand isn't so useless in season 3

[@jacobalbert2603]

Please God no. Haven't we tortured Robert Jordan's soul enough with this absolute dumpster fire of a TV series.

[@kadensinclair]

Opening of season 1 could both happen without the need to introduce and work in Elaida and Min and still be Siuan being deposed. Because maybe it's Elaidas vision and an adaptation as to why she's so arrogantly confident of her rise to power...without the end result of her arrogance and incompetence.

[@Hamish_Whitehaven]

After reading(listening) the books again (and enjoying them very much again), I am not very excited for it. (for this shadow of the/a story)

[@xyr3s]

let's see if 3 seasons in the protagonist actually does some thing lol. imagine if ned stark, danny and rob did fuck all for the first 2 seasons of game of thrones? :D imagine if aragorn, frodo and gandalf did nothing of note for 1 and a half movies? lol. omg, imagine if luffy wasn't the central character until season 3 O.O

[@NaeBlis]

I’d argue there are multiple protagonists in WoT but point taken

[@xyr3s]

@@NaeBlis true. rafe could have had his cake and eaten it too if he hadn't split up the emond's 5 in the first season. he could have had them travel together the entire time and given them all good character development playing off of each other on their journey. he has made so many changes, i dunno why that was the part he decided had to stay lol.
end of season one rand would go with the girls to the tower. season 2 would have been the girls and rand on one side, perrin and matt on the other side (they could have had matt come to fal darrah with siuane ). rand would have met lan fear on the outskirts of tar valon.
that way most of the gang would be with each other and they wouldn't have to separate time between the girls, rand, matt, perrin, the tower and all that. the girls get given to the seanchan and lan fear takes rand to cairhien.
also they did nynaeve dirty in season 2 lol. does anyone know what causes her block in the series? iirc, in the books, anger is what helps her break through when she needs to channel. but i think she would have been plenty mad seeing what the seanchan are doing to channelers, what they did to egwene, elayne taking an arrow to the knee, seeing rand stabbed and on the verge of death, has the series told us yet what triggers nynaeve?

[@lluewhyn]

@@xyr3s The actor for Mat left near the end of the season and then Covid hit. They had to scramble to deal with that. Apparently, their plan was for Mat to go with Rand and Perrin after the Horn like in the books, but that had to be changed to explain why he's no longer with them. There were still always going to be changes to the source material, but some of them were caused by external factors.

[@xyr3s]

@@lluewhyn yea i know. but at the start of season 2, they could have siuane go to fal darrah. and when she does, she takes matt with her. i don't think that would really be affected by the old matt actor leaving.

[@Lightning_Lance]

I never would have guessed Elaida would use an Uncle Ben quote, but it really fits her.

[@user-sg8do2to2x]

The first 15 minutes will be Suain being deposed, but it will be one of Min’s viewings and all explained in retrospect

[@watcherofwatchers]

I can tell you that my enthusiasm for any show dramatically declines when it's 2 or more years between seasons. I know there are reasons, but knowing that does nothing to temper my declining interest. (And I do like the show, as imperfect as it is.)

[@lluewhyn]

Yeah, I made a comment elsewhere here that they elected to have almost half as many seasons as there are books (for understandable reasons, especially "The Slog"), but then are taking like 2 years between releasing seasons. Hopefully they'll speed things up and make the series binge-able.

[@keithmiller5261]

I can’t believe anyone still watches this WOT skinsuit.

[@cthulhujankinx5652]

I just want it to end. I had high hopes in the beginning but at every turn it feels more and more like an intentional slap in the face to the fans

[@armandog3335]

Yes! Finally

[@growitheflow]

Naebs!! 🤟

[@tw7998]

The gap between seasons is too long for a show that is set to be 6 or 7 seasons. People will lose interest and the actors will age too much. Agree the first 15 mins will be to do with the deposing

[@stephengrant4841]

I like the cast a lot, except for Perrin's actor but he hasn't been given an opportunity to do much more besides brood. It's a shame that we have a cast as good as it is imo, with a show like this. Hoping to see a better adaptation in my lifetime with an equally good cast.

[@Linnir]

Wow, for eight seasons on this timeframe 15 years will pass. They should have got younger actors😂.

[@princesspeach8570]

Irrelevant to this video but! Do you have an animated the last battle video on your patreon. Im assuming they are disgusting amounts of work so if you’re not motivated to ever do it that’s cool. I however can’t lead myself out of a paper bag so direction landmarks and other things mean basically nothing :))))

[@NaeBlis]

One day that is going to happen haha

[@jureb2278]

Great, another season of disrespecting Robert Jordan's legacy...