Thank you for doing this one. Basically the only video I have seen using the 5800x3d. Most people are using Intel chips and the newest ones so having the same chipset really helped out. Some of us want a new video card and would rather upgrade the cpu / board later. Really helped me feel good about the monitors I am looking at.
This is (was) the exact dilemma I was faced with, unsure over which to buy for 3440x1440. Thank you for the video, this is exactly what I needed to make up my mind
@@Crazy09starkillor Taking into account that local pricing is a LOT different in my region: 4090 = US$ 2000+ 4080 = US$ 1300 4070ti = US$ 1030 I decided on the 4080. I have a 144hz screen, so it is not overkill and it does (hopefully) provide some future proofing as I can't afford an upgrade every 2nd generation.. or even every 3rd gen. As a side note, I am upgrading from a GTX 970
For me the extra 25 fps (average) wasn't worth paying nearly double the price in some cases for the 4080. 4070TI for me. It's been great. DLSS3 and Frame Generation has Cyberpunk at around 100fps with ultra raytracing in most situations. There's only one scene where it dropped below 60. I won't say what it is (spoilers) but it would've made any card chug a bit i'm sure. 4070TI is a great card, should just be 100 bucks less.
the price jump is hard to swallow and there are so many levers to pull nowadays to get your frame rate where you want it that you don't have to be forced in to a bad price to performance situation to get the smoothness you want.
@@ultrawidetechchannel absolutely. All in, building a PC in 2023 that can handle 3440x1440 at ultra settings with RT at a high refresh rate for less than 1700-1800 USD would’ve been unthinkable this time last year. PC building is actually in a pretty good place comparatively
had same dilemma when shopping at micro center back in Feb. I said sod it, 4080 so I can play at all UW resolutions and get near monitor refresh rate (3440x1440 144hz). for the $1100 i paid for mine, and it was the Suprim X model too, def worth it. no trouble paired with my 5800x3d.
The 4080 is pretty much all the power you could use at 3440x1440 anything more and you're likely to bottle neck anything less and your leaving potential frame rates on the table.
@@prinzseptim33 if you have a 5800X3D like me then you don't need to go am5 with the 4080 it might help a tiny amount but not like it would if you got the 4090.
@ultrawidetechchannel Exactly, I had a 3070ti which by no means was a bad card and still performed well for ultrawide. I got 50%+ increase and frame gen/ way cooler temps in my room( 3070ti heated my room up way more than the 4070ti) which is a highly underrated stat from the 4070ti. I paid significantly less selling the 3070ti and going for the 4070ti vs the 4080. Feels like to me a 4070ti is still in the insane performance range but gets hated on because nvidia didn't advertise well and the aftermarket prices inflated current gpus and caused a bunch of bs in terms of what a cards value should be.
@@nickbryant6970 The biggest nock on the 4070ti was its 12GB of ram at the asking price considering how games are going, but from what I have see the 3440x1440p resolution should be pretty safe and even if it does run in to a game that butts up against that thresh hold DLSS is very effective at lowering the rame usage and Quality still looks very good at 1440p
thanks, I don't know why there aren't more UW benchmarks, I bet they are quite a bit more common than in 2015 when I got my 3440x1440 ;o] thinking of upgrade and deciding between 3440x1440 or 3840x1600 and 4070Ti or 4080 so this was exactly what I needed 👍👍 probably for 3440x1440 I could live with the borked 4070 Ti for 3840x1600 I would probably pay the extra and get 4080 I tested the 38" 3840x1600 for a week and wasn't that impressed, the extra pixels are for sure nice for 2 browser windows even with bookmark side bars but I feel like I have to start moving my head and cannot get corner to corner with just eye movement as I can with my 34" 3440x1440 been waiting for years for a decent 3840x1600 to upgrade (actually ordered LG 38GN950-B about a year ago but after 5 months on the waiting list they cancelled my order ;o) and after testing it (I later borrowed one in same size when I was waiting for a psu repair on my lcd) I am not sure I like it as much as I though I would so maybe I'll just stay with the 34" just get a new one that can do at least 120Hz
at 3840x1600 I would step up as well. I like the size and resolution of the 3840x1440 monitors alot but that size seems to be getting passed over for the super high end panels. Glad my videos could help.
@@christiaanguijt522 buy what you want for yourself. Dont question me about my buying decisions. Ive been into this hobby way longer than you, I can assure you that.
Thanks for the video, very helpfull keep it up, maybe later you could insert your settings in a specific game, "FSR" off is nice, but is DLSS on? Or Pathtracing in Cyberpunk?
Your videos are awesome! Especially for a first-time PC builder such as myself. Definitely getting a subscribe! I do have 1 question. I am currently running 5120 x 1440 super ultrawide. Based on your benchmarks, it seems that for a few games, the 4080 was more of a convenience. Could an argument be made that the 4070 Ti Super would suffice at that resolution, being that it has 16GB of VRAM?
The 4070 TI super would definitely avoid some of the vram issues that the4070 ti does. Now you're still going to see a lower performance level than the 4080.
Thank you sir for the amazing work you put out there, i’m really struggling to pick between 4070 ti super and 4080 super what do you think has better value I’m playing on 3440/1440
If you have a strong interest in playing any game that has Ray Tracing with RT on then the 4080. If RT seems over hyped to you the 4070Ti will be plenty.
@@ultrawidetechchannel isn’t RT still good in ti super with DLSS and FG ? Edit: I really appreciate your response even though the topic has been discussed to death
@@ienz_sama9666 Nvidia recommends only using frame gen when you can get a stable 60fps before turning it on. with a 1440p vertical resolution going beyond Quality DLSS will degrade visuals so if you want the best visuals and to still hit 60 the 4080 is a better bet, especially if you're expecting this to be the card that finally unlocks your ability to play Cyberpunk 2077.
Ya, that card just isn't going to have the horsepower to do what you need it to. For example of the 8 2030 games I have tested the RTX 4070 (which is significantly more power full) only sees 4 of the 8 get 60fps or above at that resolution without RT even used, and only diablo 4 has 1% lows above 60 of all 8 games. So with the 4060 you’re going to be in even worse shape than that, and since the vertical resolution isn’t very high only 1440p DLSS Quality is about as much upscaling you can use before the image starts to substantially degrade.
Just discovered you channel. Amazing work. I’m buying a gpu and 49” monitor, and I think you just helped me decide on the 4080. By the way, do you plan on doing monitor reviews?
Yes, once I get a space setup I'll do reviews of the monitors I have on hand but I need to find a way of getting other monitors without bankrupting myself.
Thank you for this highly detailed video sir!🥰 Ummm. Would it be a good idea to upgrade from 4070ti to 4080 right now for my 1600p monitor or should I wait till they drop the 4080 ti super next year?
i just bought a 4070ti as well but am a little worried cause i want to upgrade my monitor to an ultrawide 1440p (34% more pixels than normal 1440p) am wondering if i should upgrade to 4080 but the price point is SOOOOOOOO BAD, 50% more expensive than 4070ti for only 20-25% extra perf. What do you think, will i be fine at that resolution for the next 3-4 years ?
If you want to keep it for 3-4 years you will need to be ok with the possibility of always using DLSS for new AAA game to reduce the resolution and memory usage. If your willing to switch teams AMD has options at the same price and in-between with more VRAM. the 7900XTX has slightly better Ray Tracing than the 4070Ti and much better raster, for only 25% more.
@@ultrawidetechchannel DLSS is kind of a big feature in advantage to nvidia from what ive seen. Its better than fsr 2 in pretty much every situation according to hardware unboxed review
Yes, I would say DLSS has better visuals than FSR but some people are native resolution purest and don't like using any kind of upscaling. I was just making sure you weren't in that camp.
@@ultrawidetechchannel oh ok great. Yeah i dont mind DLSS as long as i dont lose on texture quality or its not noticeable. 4080 is a terrible value compared to 4070ti so i greatly appreciate your feedback. I guess i will fine with it on ultrawide 1440p as long as i dont crank up everything to ultra with RT.
@@ultrawidetechchannelI didn't have to use any upscaling until i upgraded from a 27 inch to a 40 inch 2K 155hz monitor (3440x1440p) i lost over 30 FPS on average that if i decide to get a 4080, i hope it can do better .. otherwise ill stick to a 27.
@@ultrawidetechchannel this 40 series is a cash grab series like 20 series was priced i wud suggest ppl shud avoid at all cost unless n untill is absolutely necessary
prices should be like 799 for 4070ti, 899 for the 4080 and 999 for the 4090. when i bought my 1080ti back in 2017 for 860 this was the best u could buy . unfortunately this will never happen again:(((((.
If prices would be like this I would rocking 4090, hell I would pay 1199 for 4090 but not 2k+, 4080 899 would be good and also vram supposed to be different. 4070ti 256bus, 16gb, 4080 384bus 20gb and 4090 384 bus 20gb believe me they would destroy amd with prices above.
That's the problem, nvidia knows that a lot would rock a 4090 if it was cheaper, so to price gouge they make their price meet the demand. Make 4090 really a high end card ...
ok so im running a 5900x and my zotac 4070ti extreme airo, And at 1440p in the highest preset settings on shadow of the tomb raider 184fps 44% gpu bound, boarderlands bad ass 138fps no dlss no upscaling what so ever that cant just be a different driver difference/cpu difference your 58003d should stomp over my 5900x
So i just ran like 8 different tomb raider Benchmarks, I think I found the 1 setting we had different that's anti aliasing, to get the kinda numbers you was getting like 128fps at highest preset, I had to use smaa4x which honestly wasn't any different to taa/smaa visual to me,maybe different too you, but the performance hit at smaa4x was massive dropped 60fps using that one
When you say 1440p do you mean 16:9 or 21:9 and where are you testing your frame rate. Not that I would make that big of a difference but that is a higher clocked card.
@@ultrawidetechchannel full screen is on and its 2560/1440p ,funny enough before i got my 4070ti, i went looking for videos on youtube comparing the different makes and that was a long rabbit hole of dead ends, not a single reviewer had more than 1 of a brand , and take msi that has like 6 different 4070ti zotac has 3 different 4070tis gigabyte has 3 lol and so on which honestly makes it crazy because of the different price points
@@ultrawidetechchannel if your anti alias wasn't on smaa4x and was on taa or smaa thats a price to performance gain of 1/3 60fps from just because of it being a higher clocked which costs like 100 quid more than the trinity oc ,which would be a massive win for the higher priced for me anyway and many others no doubt :)
@@ultrawidetechchannel tho i just looked again yours wasa 3440x 1440p so that might explain it lol i need a bigger screen because in some games im cpu bottlenecked 3% or 5%
This whole generation is more expensive than it should be but with the last gen cards drying up or for those that want something even faster there are not many options
Thank you for doing this one. Basically the only video I have seen using the 5800x3d. Most people are using Intel chips and the newest ones so having the same chipset really helped out. Some of us want a new video card and would rather upgrade the cpu / board later. Really helped me feel good about the monitors I am looking at.
Glad I was able to help you out.
Love that you focus on UW resolutions! Keep it up buddy!
Thanks, will do!
This is (was) the exact dilemma I was faced with, unsure over which to buy for 3440x1440. Thank you for the video, this is exactly what I needed to make up my mind
Glad I could help. Enjoy gaming with your new card.
What did you end up going with?
@@Crazy09starkillor Taking into account that local pricing is a LOT different in my region:
4090 = US$ 2000+
4080 = US$ 1300
4070ti = US$ 1030
I decided on the 4080. I have a 144hz screen, so it is not overkill and it does (hopefully) provide some future proofing as I can't afford an upgrade every 2nd generation.. or even every 3rd gen. As a side note, I am upgrading from a GTX 970
For me the extra 25 fps (average) wasn't worth paying nearly double the price in some cases for the 4080. 4070TI for me. It's been great. DLSS3 and Frame Generation has Cyberpunk at around 100fps with ultra raytracing in most situations. There's only one scene where it dropped below 60. I won't say what it is (spoilers) but it would've made any card chug a bit i'm sure. 4070TI is a great card, should just be 100 bucks less.
the price jump is hard to swallow and there are so many levers to pull nowadays to get your frame rate where you want it that you don't have to be forced in to a bad price to performance situation to get the smoothness you want.
@@ultrawidetechchannel absolutely. All in, building a PC in 2023 that can handle 3440x1440 at ultra settings with RT at a high refresh rate for less than 1700-1800 USD would’ve been unthinkable this time last year. PC building is actually in a pretty good place comparatively
I just sens back my 4070ti and for 300euro more i ger 4080 which is more future proof, and 25-30% more performance.
@@TheInchii totally get it. If I wasn’t the kind of guy that likes to upgrade every other generation, I’d probably do the same.
Super video! 3440x1440 resolution is really actual currently
Thanks, glad you enjoyed.
had same dilemma when shopping at micro center back in Feb. I said sod it, 4080 so I can play at all UW resolutions and get near monitor refresh rate (3440x1440 144hz). for the $1100 i paid for mine, and it was the Suprim X model too, def worth it. no trouble paired with my 5800x3d.
The 4080 is pretty much all the power you could use at 3440x1440 anything more and you're likely to bottle neck anything less and your leaving potential frame rates on the table.
@@ultrawidetechchannel ok so pretty much at cap, would going am5 help out down the line or just hold on for now? Thank you!
@@prinzseptim33 if you have a 5800X3D like me then you don't need to go am5 with the 4080 it might help a tiny amount but not like it would if you got the 4090.
@@ultrawidetechchannel 💪5800x3D FTW! Epic chip 😊
Picked up a 4070ti and couldn't be happier. Thing is a BEAST. While being almost half the price near me.
That card can really get it done, and if you use optomized settings you will almos always be in high refresh rates.
@ultrawidetechchannel Exactly, I had a 3070ti which by no means was a bad card and still performed well for ultrawide. I got 50%+ increase and frame gen/ way cooler temps in my room( 3070ti heated my room up way more than the 4070ti) which is a highly underrated stat from the 4070ti. I paid significantly less selling the 3070ti and going for the 4070ti vs the 4080. Feels like to me a 4070ti is still in the insane performance range but gets hated on because nvidia didn't advertise well and the aftermarket prices inflated current gpus and caused a bunch of bs in terms of what a cards value should be.
@@nickbryant6970 The biggest nock on the 4070ti was its 12GB of ram at the asking price considering how games are going, but from what I have see the 3440x1440p resolution should be pretty safe and even if it does run in to a game that butts up against that thresh hold DLSS is very effective at lowering the rame usage and Quality still looks very good at 1440p
Gg the super is coming out in 2 months 🤣
Great video. Would love to see one of these for 4080 vs 4090.
It will be coming
These videos are so good (ultrawide user here)!
Thanks, I'll continue to make high quality ultrawide content to help this some times ignored community out.
Picked up the RTX 4080 and then watched this informative and detailed video. Thank you for your hard work! (subbed)
Glad I could help.
For anyone planning an SFF build, the first few seconds of your video answers the important "will it fit" question.
Ya, the size difference is a bit shocking,
thanks, I don't know why there aren't more UW benchmarks, I bet they are quite a bit more common than in 2015 when I got my 3440x1440 ;o]
thinking of upgrade and deciding between 3440x1440 or 3840x1600 and 4070Ti or 4080 so this was exactly what I needed 👍👍
probably for 3440x1440 I could live with the borked 4070 Ti
for 3840x1600 I would probably pay the extra and get 4080
I tested the 38" 3840x1600 for a week and wasn't that impressed, the extra pixels are for sure nice for 2 browser windows even with bookmark side bars but I feel like I have to start moving my head and cannot get corner to corner with just eye movement as I can with my 34" 3440x1440
been waiting for years for a decent 3840x1600 to upgrade (actually ordered LG 38GN950-B about a year ago but after 5 months on the waiting list they cancelled my order ;o) and after testing it (I later borrowed one in same size when I was waiting for a psu repair on my lcd) I am not sure I like it as much as I though I would so maybe I'll just stay with the 34" just get a new one that can do at least 120Hz
at 3840x1600 I would step up as well. I like the size and resolution of the 3840x1440 monitors alot but that size seems to be getting passed over for the super high end panels. Glad my videos could help.
first man. I'm a RTX 4080 owner with a 34" 3440x1440 120hz.
You should have bought a 7900 xtx.
@@christiaanguijt522 ?
@@christiaanguijt522 buy what you want for yourself. Dont question me about my buying decisions. Ive been into this hobby way longer than you, I can assure you that.
If you really enjoy using ray tracing then your extra spend will pay off for you.
@@christiaanguijt522 🙄 every single time someone buys a 4080... "shouldve bought a 7900xtx mate...." 🙄
Thank you for all the hard work!
My pleasure, and I'll keep it up.
Thanks for the video, very helpfull keep it up, maybe later you could insert your settings in a specific game, "FSR" off is nice, but is DLSS on? Or Pathtracing in Cyberpunk?
You can check out my cyberpunk 2.0 Phantom Liberty review for all kinds of different settings tested.
Your videos are awesome! Especially for a first-time PC builder such as myself. Definitely getting a subscribe!
I do have 1 question. I am currently running 5120 x 1440 super ultrawide. Based on your benchmarks, it seems that for a few games, the 4080 was more of a convenience. Could an argument be made that the 4070 Ti Super would suffice at that resolution, being that it has 16GB of VRAM?
The 4070 TI super would definitely avoid some of the vram issues that the4070 ti does. Now you're still going to see a lower performance level than the 4080.
just bought the lg 34gp83a-b UW and thinking of buidling a new comp and wondering what GPU to get, thanks for this video.
My pleasure glad it helped.
Hi, I have a G9 49" 240 Hz monitor....does the price difference between the two graphics cards justify the purchase of the 4080 for this minitor?
I would say yes, it's worth going for the 4080 though many waiting for the 4080super might be wise.
Thank you sir for the amazing work you put out there, i’m really struggling to pick between 4070 ti super and 4080 super what do you think has better value I’m playing on 3440/1440
If you have a strong interest in playing any game that has Ray Tracing with RT on then the 4080. If RT seems over hyped to you the 4070Ti will be plenty.
@@ultrawidetechchannel isn’t RT still good in ti super with DLSS and FG ?
Edit: I really appreciate your response even though the topic has been discussed to death
@@ienz_sama9666 Nvidia recommends only using frame gen when you can get a stable 60fps before turning it on. with a 1440p vertical resolution going beyond Quality DLSS will degrade visuals so if you want the best visuals and to still hit 60 the 4080 is a better bet, especially if you're expecting this to be the card that finally unlocks your ability to play Cyberpunk 2077.
for Odyssey G9 49, 4060 TI is out of question?
Ya, that card just isn't going to have the horsepower to do what you need it to. For example of the 8 2030 games I have tested the RTX 4070 (which is significantly more power full) only sees 4 of the 8 get 60fps or above at that resolution without RT even used, and only diablo 4 has 1% lows above 60 of all 8 games. So with the 4060 you’re going to be in even worse shape than that, and since the vertical resolution isn’t very high only 1440p DLSS Quality is about as much upscaling you can use before the image starts to substantially degrade.
@@ultrawidetechchannel thanks. Even 4080 I’m afraid of not being able to carry on, with that monitor. But 4090 is too much for my budget :(
Just discovered you channel. Amazing work. I’m buying a gpu and 49” monitor, and I think you just helped me decide on the 4080. By the way, do you plan on doing monitor reviews?
Yes, once I get a space setup I'll do reviews of the monitors I have on hand but I need to find a way of getting other monitors without bankrupting myself.
Thank you for this highly detailed video sir!🥰
Ummm. Would it be a good idea to upgrade from 4070ti to 4080 right now for my 1600p monitor or should I wait till they drop the 4080 ti super next year?
Thank you. Unless you're still in your return period for your 4070ti wait for the super.
Wow look at that size difference. It also represents the price difference
If you're pricing things by weight and volume then the 4080 definitely earns its premium.
I analized the situation and went with the 7900 xtx
A great choice that my 7900xtx vs 4080 head to head video confirms for a large selection of gamers.
Which gaming monitor has the resolution of 5120x2160 ?
There isn't a "gaming" monitor at this resolution. This is a bit of a future look, as well as for those editors who want to game on the side.
@@ultrawidetechchannel thx for the answer !
i just bought a 4070ti as well but am a little worried cause i want to upgrade my monitor to an ultrawide 1440p (34% more pixels than normal 1440p) am wondering if i should upgrade to 4080 but the price point is SOOOOOOOO BAD, 50% more expensive than 4070ti for only 20-25% extra perf. What do you think, will i be fine at that resolution for the next 3-4 years ?
If you want to keep it for 3-4 years you will need to be ok with the possibility of always using DLSS for new AAA game to reduce the resolution and memory usage. If your willing to switch teams AMD has options at the same price and in-between with more VRAM. the 7900XTX has slightly better Ray Tracing than the 4070Ti and much better raster, for only 25% more.
@@ultrawidetechchannel DLSS is kind of a big feature in advantage to nvidia from what ive seen. Its better than fsr 2 in pretty much every situation according to hardware unboxed review
Yes, I would say DLSS has better visuals than FSR but some people are native resolution purest and don't like using any kind of upscaling. I was just making sure you weren't in that camp.
@@ultrawidetechchannel oh ok great. Yeah i dont mind DLSS as long as i dont lose on texture quality or its not noticeable. 4080 is a terrible value compared to 4070ti so i greatly appreciate your feedback. I guess i will fine with it on ultrawide 1440p as long as i dont crank up everything to ultra with RT.
@@ultrawidetechchannelI didn't have to use any upscaling until i upgraded from a 27 inch to a 40 inch 2K 155hz monitor (3440x1440p) i lost over 30 FPS on average that if i decide to get a 4080, i hope it can do better .. otherwise ill stick to a 27.
their real price wud b when they come down to the used Market. will meet again on 50 series launch😊
ya, the pricing this generation is less than ideal.
@@ultrawidetechchannel this 40 series is a cash grab series like 20 series was priced
i wud suggest ppl shud avoid at all cost unless n untill is absolutely necessary
50 series coming in 2025
Good video. The correct answer is.. the 4090. Spend the money and play games worry free for the next generation or two.
If you have all the money sure. But $400+ extra is a lot of money for most people.
I chose 4080 for 3440 x 1440 gaming.
It will pay off when you need to do some ray tracing.
prices should be like 799 for 4070ti, 899 for the 4080 and 999 for the 4090. when i bought my 1080ti back in 2017 for 860 this was the best u could buy . unfortunately this will never happen again:(((((.
Those prices would be amazing but I think the 4070ti would be better served at 6-700
If prices would be like this I would rocking 4090, hell I would pay 1199 for 4090 but not 2k+, 4080 899 would be good and also vram supposed to be different. 4070ti 256bus, 16gb, 4080 384bus 20gb and 4090 384 bus 20gb believe me they would destroy amd with prices above.
That's the problem, nvidia knows that a lot would rock a 4090 if it was cheaper, so to price gouge they make their price meet the demand. Make 4090 really a high end card ...
this is why you just buy a 7900XT.
There certainly is a case to be made in doing that.
ok so im running a 5900x and my zotac 4070ti extreme airo, And at 1440p in the highest preset settings on shadow of the tomb raider 184fps 44% gpu bound, boarderlands bad ass 138fps no dlss no upscaling what so ever that cant just be a different driver difference/cpu difference your 58003d should stomp over my 5900x
So i just ran like 8 different tomb raider Benchmarks, I think I found the 1 setting we had different that's anti aliasing, to get the kinda numbers you was getting like 128fps at highest preset, I had to use smaa4x which honestly wasn't any different to taa/smaa visual to me,maybe different too you, but the performance hit at smaa4x was massive dropped 60fps using that one
When you say 1440p do you mean 16:9 or 21:9 and where are you testing your frame rate. Not that I would make that big of a difference but that is a higher clocked card.
@@ultrawidetechchannel full screen is on and its 2560/1440p ,funny enough before i got my 4070ti, i went looking for videos on youtube comparing the different makes and that was a long rabbit hole of dead ends, not a single reviewer had more than 1 of a brand , and take msi that has like 6 different 4070ti zotac has 3 different 4070tis gigabyte has 3 lol and so on which honestly makes it crazy because of the different price points
@@ultrawidetechchannel if your anti alias wasn't on smaa4x and was on taa or smaa thats a price to performance gain of 1/3 60fps from just because of it being a higher clocked which costs like 100 quid more than the trinity oc ,which would be a massive win for the higher priced for me anyway and many others no doubt :)
@@ultrawidetechchannel tho i just looked again yours wasa 3440x 1440p so that might explain it lol i need a bigger screen because in some games im cpu bottlenecked 3% or 5%
They both are still not worth their price tag.
This whole generation is more expensive than it should be but with the last gen cards drying up or for those that want something even faster there are not many options
4090 to get decent frame rates.
More than decent I would hope