As in the vice that never left? They never stopped posting content like this. They just expanded. Their purpose in media is fringe journalism, not world news reporting. Should definitely look into the origins of vice if you feel so strongly about this.
Jamil I don’t mind the new directions vice has been going in. I’ve been following them for years but I know some people hate a lot of their new content
The maritime businesses are struggling in iran, that is true. But you have to understand how these situations came to be. Many of these yacht building facilities and companies were financing irgc's navy in pursuit of engineering subs. This poor man may be one of hundreds hit by the sanctions, and there are more for sure. As a person who have had the unfortunate fate of being conceived in this god forsaken land i find myself responsible to clear some of this haze around the actual situation in iran.
Piffle Hats off to you for voicing that. Vice used to be the shit, real journalism and not promoting degeneracy. Hopefully they’ll come around and be as bad ass as they were in the beginning
A Jr yeah PROMOTING DEGENERACY. Vice used to be raw journalism, used to be unbiased information, “take it or leave it” type of journalism, and they’ve fallen victim to politics. Take for instance Tim Pool and Gavin McInnes, a couple of the founders of Vice and on both spectrums of the isle... even they’ve acknowledged Vice is bs and too political. They went from “I don’t care about your politics” to promoting degeneracy. Plain and simple. Oh and I don’t pay too much attention to the news because they’re lying to you as well
Belthazor22 so you’re telling me FOX/A&E/Disney is hipster/fringe? No they are not! They’re promoting an agenda now and all I’m saying is Vice is no longer unbiased. Vice used to be the shit and is now a political tool advance that agenda
As an iranian, I get very picky when it comes to documentaries about my motherland. It was so relieving to finally watch something authentic. Thank you.
@@paultrimble21 it is just a word, none of the people I know actually want AMERICANS to DIE and by authentic i mean, that Iran is shown as if you visited it, not lie they want you to see it.
Finally felt like one of the original vice documentaries. Huge fan of Suroosh and Shane, cant over state this. Keep up the super work girls and guys. Also the ending credit scene and music was awesome.
yeah right. Tell me whys the US government is since a century in the hand of zionists while the Iran government is at loggerheads with Israel since its foundation. I am no expert, no geopolitician, but it did ALWAYS strike me how America pursues Israel's interests without the two country having any real cultural/political/economical reason for proximity. And yet EVERY single Us president has always stated his uncompromising support to the jewish state. Why? Have you asked yourself that? And here comes VICE, an American news outlet, telling you how bad the Iranian government is.
@@amoreazione3563 that's probably the single weakest argument I have ever seen against US support for Israel. How conveniently you forget Iran and Israel were once close friends and allies. Israel didn't even begin receiving US support until nearly 20 years after her creation. Do you read books?
@@amoreazione3563 they both feed off of eachother. isreal and iran use eachother as boogeymen to keep their populace in check via increased police state and militarization of society.
@@TheJerbol Gavin left vice early, when it was a magazine about dildos and huffing paint. Its became the news source people love after him. Then it went to shit, now it might be coming back.
I travelled to Iran almost exactly a year ago today. The people there are friendly, thoughtful, helpful and beautiful. I have been to many places, but there is no one like the Iranian people when it comes to hospitality. None of them hated the west, in fact most of them wanted to travel there, but most of them seemed to hate government regimes, both their own and the American one. They are the victims of politics, and they don't deserve to be. I hope one day they will be free of politicians' fight for power and influence.
@@BrokenAbyss Don't think it has much to do with class, but more to do with power. I hanged out with people that would be considered both upper and working class over there, and they shared the same views on this. Common denominator was that they don't have power to change the situation.
@@KleinOfficial that is until you move in and don't consider a visitor anymore. Then you'll know the real deal. No hospitality whatsoever. That's why so many Iranians whish to leave their country. Im not trying to diss Iranians im originally from there and i love going there especially Shiraz its fucking amazing and full of drugs lol yeah im a dope head. Regardless, im glad to be visiting and not living there. That's just my opinion. Cheers
23:30 man the older gentleman who ran the Yacht building company broke my heart. He clearly was a guy who loves his job, business and employees. It is very easy to relate with the people on the ground. They have as much control as we do when it comes to government making bad decisions. We need more people who are not bad actors and willing to actually make the world a better place.
Iago Outeiral I know! Going places their viewership knows little about with tact and empathy. Really reminded me of the North Korea train ride piece years ago.
@@buttbuttson737 That’s the intended point of the sanctions although you have to think of this from an Iranian person’s point of view. Imagine you’re trying to make an honest living and the government makes it impossible by being a menace then not being able to do anything about it due to living in an autocratic dictatorship. The rich who live in Iran can easily get around sanctions, they have nothing to worry about while the common people have nothing. I’m not saying to get rid of sanctions for complete trade but what I am saying is that it is unfair on those who just happen to live there.
@@buttbuttson737 Bruh. Trump literally threw away the Iran Deal and reinstated sanctions on Iran for no reason whatsoever other than Obama started the Iran Deal
At 40:05 when the woman is stating her position you can hear the man quickly and slightly under his breathe say "don't say too many bad things guys" in Farsi. And the other woman nods her head. It's a telling moment.
This was filmed months ago............ also they left HBO so they are both posting content that HBO held back from youtube. And creating new content with less limits
No its just that there is only so much content that can be made like this. Not all journalists are willing, and the ones that are can only make 1 video at a time, and they can take a while to produce.
@Mustafa Iraq no, they have made some questionable decisions funding certain rebels groups, but for the most part, they stand very against terror. And even as an ultraconservative Islamic authoritarian monarchy, they have great US relations, and are rich and powerful becuz of it. Iran cud be in the same shoes as Saudia arabia, but they're government has fked up too many times (chanting death to America doesn't help)
Irrelevant to argue whether it's old or new Vice. It's just awesome when they make videos covering citizens abroad. It humanizes countries beyond a regime. I am in law school now and got hooked on vice int'l when I was in grade school. Videos like these have shaped my world view over the years immensely.
These guys interviewed the ex-head of an organization known for hating the US and rode a small boat into the straight of Hormuz. The absolute BALLS on these journalists, loving the new old Vice
You did realize there's no female journalists in this crew. Don't you think there's a reason for that? *HINT* Google all the female reporters who were raped and killed.
This is what vice used to be almost entirely. they had all kinds of amazing stuff from the more well known stuff to lesser known stuff like dafur/sudan and all kinds of obscure places and idk why, whether it wasnt as profitable or all their correspondants got banned from most places they just don't have much of this stuff anymore and its a shame.
@@ianwatosky5481 The videos of the Ukraine protests and war was outstanding journalism. It's a shame they've fallen so far since than. Hopefully they realize or at least make a separate channel with that kind of journalism again.
@@kerzariz8717 True, idk the profit/loss breakdown of the videos they make, but it seemed like the old videos they did got a lot more views than the newer content.
This video/documentary is a glimmer of hope as far as the journalism on this channel is concerned, i hope VICE creates more stuff like this instead of teaching everyone how to make a cross joint.
@@Jimmy-sb6zv Are you actually too lazy to click once on their channel symbol and then copy&paste the words in the search bar? Typing these words in this thread is waaaaay more work...xD
@Boston 508617 yea so much freedom. if you wanna ride a bicycle as a woman in the city, you get arrested, and thousands of people march against you lol
@Boston 508617 I know what women can do and cant do in iran. i live in turkey and im interested in women's rights in my country as well as in iran. your response continue with BUT which implies justification to brutal legislations/ limitations to oppress iranian women. yes women can hold goverment position and get education BUT as video shows, if you say a negative thing about compulsory hijab rule or anything that is related to women's freedom, you are out. this is not a fredoom as you can see, this is just a being a chained dog of the government. you are probably a man, and not affected by those opressive laws as it is seen. so let iranian WOMEN decide whether they have enough freedom or not.
@Boston 508617 dude, in turkey, we live mostly under liberal, secular laws and turkish women have much more rights than iranian women. as in your first comment, we have much more rights than western people believe. i know what you are coming from because your pride hurts when some ignorant westerners comment on your country, that's why you activated your "heyy we are not like you guys think of us we are not like completely opressed ok" mood. sometimes i feel this too. but for example, when we talk about women's rights in turkey, nobody says BUT WOMEN HAVE MUCH MORE FREEDOM THAN PEOPLE THINK OF US, WELL WE HAVE EDUCATION, GOVERNMENT POSITONS etc etc. your comment is like a justification propaganda and you dont get it. those rights you mentioned is just a tokenism that iranian government uses to dodge the real women question in iran.
I got an interesting explanation from an Iranian girl for this: in public, for cameras a lot of men will put this as a show to protect the women and themselves in front of goverment. In private woman can speak freely.
@@Marty-uv7ep Don't just say ok. You have a responsibility to investigate further you fucking slug. www.mintpressnews.com/vices-fall-counterculture-hipster-rag-neoliberal-government-mouthpiece/220431/
not all women agree with her , she might be a stripper and needs a stripper club . but vice news trying to show that this how women feel in iran . i hope he asked her what freedom u want? .. what u missing ?... u want to be a plane captain ? u wanna have ur own company ?! u wanna divorce and get married again ?! wtf does she wants .... i hope i can discuss that with any iranian woman here that reads this ... reply to me .
I Think that he is trying to protect them. The reason for why I Think so is he knows that there will be reprisal from the iranian gorvernment against these 2 women if they express an honest view on the matter
I don't know what the hell happened to Vice in recent years, but it was about time you guys started dropping bomb ass documentaries like these again. Awesome documentary, great job.
The flags are provided by the regime and burned by actors paid by the regime... that whole “death to America” nonsense is all orchestrated by the government. Iranian civilians would never commit such embarrassing acts of aggression. We are a peace loving people imprisoned by fanatics and hardliners.
Suroosh is a straight up legend at this point .. I’m rewatching this and a few of the earlier vice docs during lockdown .. with quality work like this, it’s well worth a revisit ...
25:13 it was heartbreaking to see the upset that the US sanctions have caused this man who's just trying to earn a living. People seem to forget that behind the aggressive Iranian and American governments are real people who are suffering.
Its unfortunate that they are suffering. Hopefully the Iranian govt can either help their citizens directly more, or make amends with the US to have sanctions lifted.
The US supported the shah, supported Saddam's war against Iran, unilaterally broke off the nuclear treaty, and placed crippling sanctions including on humanitarian goods, and then has the gall to claim it's the other side who should make amends. That the US chastises Iran for funding terrorist groups and shipping arms to fuel conflict is also ironic considering that the US has been funding and arming terrorist groups like the Mujahideen, various Syrian terrorist organisations and Saudi Arabia's genocidal war on Yemen (not to mention groups in other parts of the world, like the contras). The US is a nation whose leadership is seemingly incapable of introspection.
Jesper you’re missing some context. The USA supported the Shah because Mossadegh was attempting to steal oil producing equipment from US and UK companies. It’s one thing to expel the oil companies and pay them off for their equipment. It’s another to simply steal what isn’t yours. The Iran nuclear deal was a joke negotiated in bad faith by Iran. The Iranians continued nuclear weapons development by advancing their ballistic missile program. The sanctions omit humanitarian aid. The USA has been very clear that humanitarian aid is exempt from US sanctions so long as the provider performs oversight on spending. The USA only “supported” two groups you mentioned. The USA supported part of the Mujahideen, specifically the Northern Alliance. Which is not noted as a terrorist organization anywhere. Additionally, the USA’s “support” to Saudi Arabia has been mostly weapon sales. Notice the word sales. This support is a business transaction.
@@kurousagi8155 "Theft of equipment" is not a valid excuse for toppling a democratically elected government and replacing it with an oppressive, torturous dictator. And Iran was in full compliance with the agreement as per *every single report* made by the IAEA, equating ballistic missile development with developing a nuke is a half-assed excuse. And US Sanctions still harm medical supplies. www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/as-coronavirus-cases-explode-in-iran-us-sanctions-hinder-its-access-to-drugs-and-medical-equipment/2020/03/28/0656a196-6aba-11ea-b199-3a9799c54512_story.html It doesn't matter what exceptions you put in place when you utterly destroy a countries ability to pay for the supplies needed. You are also ignoring the intelligence and "training" provided to the Saudi coalition, and acting like you're only marginally involved when you literally sell them the bombs the use to drop on school busses is laughable. Also, the US did support the Contras, they even sold Iran missiles to do it.
This man , sorush Alavi working with IRGC/ they're sending the Iranian money to ppl like him to make fake news against us... // ppl in street yelling our Enemy its here{{mullahs}} not there (us ) but fake journalist like him won't see or hear ..
@kamran Eslami They are people who have commited a crime. In Iran, the islamic religion is oppressive towards woman and promotes male patriarchy and control. Ben pointed out a clear and certain outline of a way that Iran's and islamic countries treat women. If you have a problem with it, defend it, or provide real counters instead of calling people pieces of shits. :D
Well they're not down with the us but they are not bad people either. It is their government. Let's also not forget that they did take US citizens hostage for over 400 Days which was complete BS.
Most Iranians have no problem with America or Americans. It's the radical Islamic state that hates America and everything we stand for. They believe WE are the epitome of EVIL. For Islam to teach tolerance and LOVING and FOLLOWING GOD as closely as possible, they sure have no problem with decapitating Christians. You NEVER see Christian's trying to kill other religions for not following JESUS. We use LOVE and THE GOSPEL to try to turn their hearts. You tell me which GOD seems "right"? JESUS IS THE ONLY WAY.
The producers of the docu going out for a swim in the middle of a shoot and in the middle of a conflicted region is the most VICE thing I have ever seen. This, coming from a former VICE employee.
Walker Dawson yes he did! He now works for Newslaundry according to what I can find online. Seriously man just google people’s names sometimes lol. Infos all there for ya!
its just that persian has a lot of idioms and common phrases for different situations. something you'll find in other very old languages with very long literary traditions
Love the part when the man man-explains why women are fine in Iran, it’s told to please let the women talk, and the woman (right in front of him) says: no, we are not ok. The absolute raw power of that burn alone makes that woman a source of energy bigger than the while Iranian oil infrastructure.
@@Dorrrr1111 quite on the contrary. He is pretty neutral to the whole thing. He even asked the other guy to shut up and let the women talk. I don't know why people got the idea that he was trying to present an agenda.
@@Dorrrr1111 I thought he was being pretty even-handed. He's being an observer, nobody's watching this to get his opinion; we want to see what's happening in Iran. Saroosh is an excellent journalist because he understands that his job is to gather information and ask questions rather than editorialize.
@@delowarhossain70 It's a Persian saying the guy slightly mistranslated. The original translates to "The yellow dog is the jackal's brother." Which refers to a situation where even though one of a number of bad options is less bad, it will still effectively be as bad as the rest. Here, the man was implying that since the reporter is from a US media organization, he is probably the same as the rest of them. There is a chance that he used this specific saying to refer to the situation due to a confusion in the scene where someone said the reporter is from "Voice" of America (VOA - US State Department owned media organization) and someone else corrected them and said it's "Vice", from America. In this scenario, the jackal refers to VOA.
I was also in Iran in November. It is totally safe for travellers. Persians are the warmest, friendliest people. Not a day went by without someone offering me food or inviting me to their home. If you can travel around Iran without having to hire a government guide, it's totally worth the hassle of getting there.
My heart broked when that gentleman started crying, I'm pretty sure he wasn't crying for himself, he was crying because he knew if that company was still open how many more families would be happier.
"The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same." Marjane Satrapi Love & Peace to All Human Being.
@ScarletDespair Minoritarianism, the majority of people in the US have no control over how their government is structured. They can vote, but that the structure of US elections (2 party system) makes the voting of a minority of fanatics more effective than the majority of non fanatic votes.
This is the kind of journalism that made me sign up for a Vice subscription back in my teens. After a 5-10 year dash of terribly superficial and incredibly boring pop-news, I'm really glad to see something with a bit of gravity to it. Please keep it up.
@@Sundara229 That's just the definition of freedom that they've been brought up to believe. He most likely was convinced. Although I could be wrong, I doubt men in Iran are naive or gullible for lack of a better word when it comes to the definition of freedom.
That was awesome! Americans do not hate the Iranian people. Iranians don't hate Americans. But our government's would have us believe otherwise. We are smarter than that! Thank you vice for this so desperately needed story❤️🌎❤️
@@Alichills social distancing might help to a certain extent I guess, what about government sealing areas with most affected people? Avoiding huge gatherings?
In Saudi Arabia he wont even be able to ask that. Where is a documentary about Saudi Arabian women's rights? Why isn't it there? Is it because USA is in bed with the Government? Vice is just a propaganda media. Fact.
@@dingdingdingding2871 Classic whataboutism, Vice have written tones of articles on the saudis if you bothered to do a one second google www.vice.com/en_us/article/7xm3mx/saudi-arabia-women-driving-activists-detained
39:29 I'm sorry but he asked the women the question. Can he not speak for the women? They are there they have a voice and he is literally talking for them it's disgusting
Thank you VICE for this work! The minute 26 of the reportage my heart was broken when I saw my compatriot was crying... I got lots of respect for him...
@@gurjodhsingh6872 Why are you comparing Iran to other countries in middle east when women in Iran had so much freedom before the revolution while other countries are struggling for women's freedom for hundreds of years?
When i see Iran with all these sanctions but still yet thriving i cry for my African countries always complaining about colonialism while we don't even have basic organization skills.
You will all be better off if your government keeps Bill & Melinda Gates foundation (foundation of crime) and WHO from meddling into its people. They’re NOT qualified for the positions they’ve put THEMSELVES INTO. If with all their billions (Gates) and all of our wasted tax dollars (WHO) wanted to do good for African & Asian countries, they’d offer nothing but clean drinking water and food. They are eugenicists, Gates parents always were & his actions prove the “apple didn’t fall far from the tree” and inherited/learned those same evil ideas and has the intent, thats proven. The more countries that have woken up to their wreckless behaviors & practices, have banned them...so now, they’re pushing their “skills” onto their fellow American citizens. m.journal-neo.org/2020/09/28/gates-vaccine-spreads-polio-across-africa/
Colonialism royally fucked Africa. The way they divided the continent was not conducive to organizing. They really need other countries to actually care about helping.
@@curly8393 dude Suroosh Alvi is one of the Co-Founders! He is a great host and the fact that he is Pakistani-Canadian and muslim definitely helps in situations like this.
Bro yes those two literally go to the craziest fuckin places from cannibals in Liberia and fake tours in North Korea to bin ladens home in Pakistan to war torn Iraq
Don't forget Simon Ostrovsky, the guy who was literally taken prisoner and the day he got out he went straight back into a warzone to cover the Crimean situation. Speaking to real people about real things attempting to be genuine. I really hope that this vice is actually coming back.
How come no one mentions Isobel Yeung, she's amazing!! From the Assadist dictatorship in Syria to the CCP's concentration camps in Xinjiang, she's extremely brave.
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When I was meeting the crew on-board Iran Air back I noticed that most of the people were quite normal. Most of them were quite friendly and polite, some were eager to ask questions. And then we had the male security officers that never smiled, always spied on everyone, never talked to anyone and looked like they were in a bad mood 24/7. Guess which people runs the country?
34:40 Let that sink in the fact that her children are all currently a US residents and studying and living there. In fact, most of the current cabin's authorities have children offshore living or "studying". Mostly in US too.
@@hatefueled3857 I bet she is just a figurehead because of her fame from taking part in the embassy hostage situation. I doubt she has much authority in her career. I'm too lazy to check but I would even bet that the president of "Iran for Women and Family Affairs" is a man who calls the shots. She just enjoys the benefits of being a famous student activist.
dont be he has probably enough wealth to continue his life as it was. but alot of other iranians who have really bad financial situation and lack of freedome cant live normaly since 40 years now. sanctions or no sanctions, doesnt make any difference. If the sanctions are withdrawn only the people who are in the body of the regime gonna benefit from it.
majority of the documentary focused on the so called "hardliners" not mentioning the fact that all these "hardliners" have high positions in the government and their kids live in first world countries as millionaires. and all those people in the government rallies are often paid to be there rather than wanting to be there. Would have been nice to further focus on the untold realities which still remain untold and unknown to many.
They put those here and there if we watch carefully. I think that Vice is like walking on Shiratal string. So, they are very careful to not complicate any people involved.
cardsblues219 you can’t even differentiate their and there. Vice has always posted political videos. You people only like news criticizing liberals. When it comes to criticizing conservative topics, you people are as rabid as SJWs.
When the woman started answering the question the man said in farsi: " be careful of what you are going to say, don't say too much" bacause it's iran and any opposition against the goverment we live in is not being tolerated.
@ClickNSpam you are right but remember I'm neutral in my scence u.s should avoid interference in middle East and Iran should learn to get peace with other Arabs despite it is a shia anyway despite all these live in peace stay strong against corona
Sanctions blocking medicine seems like a human rights issue to me, how is that legal? Just like some of the Iranians say, I love the people of Iran but not the government. And trust me, I know the US government has done some bad things too. Like blocking medicine. We shouldn't be keeping people from getting their medicine, it's just messed up in my opinion.
Like blocking medicine? Us overthrew a democratic elected president in 1951 and put a corrupt sociopath in power so they could get their oil. The only reason us hate Iran is because they took back power and their resources.
I can promise you they will get in trouble if they get out of line. Furthermore they were told as much. At roughly 40 minutes in the girls being interviewed even said they didn't want to go to jail... Those protest happen because they are planned by the government.
A number likely got covid-19, the older and weaker likely passed. Everyone who was busy sabre rattling 5-6 months ago has some serious problems they can't shoot or bomb their ways out of now. Man plans, and the fates laugh, so it goes. ;)
I felt for the man making the boat, to see hard work and investment thrown away because of something out of your control is heart breaking. I hope he finds some sort of relief.
I had the privilege to travel to Iran in May 2019 and it was the most fascinating and beautiful destination I've ever been. The people are the kindest you will ever meet. The Iranian regime is the opposite from how most of Iranian citizens are: open-minded, progressive, broadly interested, enormously hospitable to foreigners
No, it's not. Thats a very pessimistic way of looking at it. When you close a country off like that, you can't expect development or modernisation. Iran isn't like North Korea and shouldn't be. Better relations and trade would solve a lot of problems Iran is facing today.
Hell yeah please PLEASE make more documentaries like this one, it reminds me of the olden times when VICE used to be the most badass news channel promoting real stories
My dad's family, a religious and ethnic minority, escaped Iran during the Revolution. I'm in my 20s, born in California, and often asked him about that time, but he refused to address it. Thank you VICE for putting together such an informative, fair, and cohesive documentary about an issue so many are afraid to speak about. Please make more videos like this :)
He made a good choice buddy. Maybe cause he doesn't want you anywhere near that lifestyle and want to be free and respect every religion nor culture. Respect to your Dad.
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Excellent illuminating humanizing documentary. Every American needs to see this, the average American has more in common with the average Iranian than either has with their governments.
@@samuelboucher1454 then you weren't paying attention and should thank god that you've never lived in a country that follows up it's threats w/ oppressive secret police who will put you in a terrible hole we could never even imagine for speaking the truth. Also all I consistantly heard was people saying how they don't hate the US, just our government, and shit...I hate our government. In fact, many used stronger words than that saying that they love american people just not our government which makes sense considering all the sanctions do are hurt these every day people. Put yourself in someone elses shoes for a chance and try to understand how you would feel if you happened to be born over there bcz thats the only difference between us and its something we cant control.
@@nikkigriffin08 LOL, you obviously don't understand the newer penal codes. You should try walking in any US government office and accuse them of something, and tell me if you were conscious on your way to the can, where the other 2,600,000 pruno drinkers are, and 1/2 probably wrongly accused hahahahh
WW3 I wouldnt do that bcz im not an idiot, the difference is that in Iran, you can be sent to a hole for simply expressing your views even just to your friends, family, coworkers, and neighbors. Noone is going to come snatch me up and put me in jail bcz I fly a pride flag outside my house. The US is nowhere near as oppressive as the Iranian government...yet, but I will agree with you that it’s headed that way, and that if you’re a person of color then it is basically just as oppressive
@@TheDitatifani The closest this American has ever seen of Iran, was on an episode of the Shahs Of Sunset when they went right up to the border for some sand to remind them of home...missing it but now allowed back b/c they’d fled. They were being surveilled the entire time, & eventually had to leave after their driver said things were getting too dicey. All I can say, is they definitely have control over their boarders!! Which in my opinion, isn’t a bad idea for any country or region....as well as ones private property.
The background music they use during certain scenes was so fitting. This whole documentary was awesome! Instead of just feeding into the biases, they decided to show another side to Iran. I miss these type of Vice documentaries!
So my first thought was I'm not wasting an hour on a VICE doco, they have been so average lately. Saw a few comments about it being more like the old VICE, and I have to agree. This was such a good watch, hopefully they continue with their old style.
This is what people mean when they say they miss the “old vice”
So true ma man
As in the vice that never left? They never stopped posting content like this. They just expanded. Their purpose in media is fringe journalism, not world news reporting. Should definitely look into the origins of vice if you feel so strongly about this.
Jamil I don’t mind the new directions vice has been going in. I’ve been following them for years but I know some people hate a lot of their new content
Totally agree!!
100%
The owner of the yacht building company really got me! He seemed like a really decent man caught in the cross fire.
He's probably got a few quid to fall back on
Thats America Freedom for you and Iranian Leader for you also
The maritime businesses are struggling in iran, that is true. But you have to understand how these situations came to be. Many of these yacht building facilities and companies were financing irgc's navy in pursuit of engineering subs. This poor man may be one of hundreds hit by the sanctions, and there are more for sure. As a person who have had the unfortunate fate of being conceived in this god forsaken land i find myself responsible to clear some of this haze around the actual situation in iran.
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Hats off to vice for listening to the people who want the old Vice format back. Hopefully more of this content and less videos about dildos
Piffle Hats off to you for voicing that. Vice used to be the shit, real journalism and not promoting degeneracy. Hopefully they’ll come around and be as bad ass as they were in the beginning
A Jr yeah PROMOTING DEGENERACY. Vice used to be raw journalism, used to be unbiased information, “take it or leave it” type of journalism, and they’ve fallen victim to politics. Take for instance Tim Pool and Gavin McInnes, a couple of the founders of Vice and on both spectrums of the isle... even they’ve acknowledged Vice is bs and too political. They went from “I don’t care about your politics” to promoting degeneracy. Plain and simple. Oh and I don’t pay too much attention to the news because they’re lying to you as well
Belthazor22 so you’re telling me FOX/A&E/Disney is hipster/fringe? No they are not! They’re promoting an agenda now and all I’m saying is Vice is no longer unbiased. Vice used to be the shit and is now a political tool advance that agenda
@@americana4193 No hes saying that Vice always covered these weird kind of topics
about time..... vice was real before they turned into sjw's.
As an iranian, I get very picky when it comes to documentaries about my motherland. It was so relieving to finally watch something authentic. Thank you.
that weighs heavy for me
Is democracy of bombs perfect? 12 million civilians dead because of america ruclips.net/video/P1PbewmoAJE/видео.html n
What does she mean by "Death to America" is "just a word"? What does that mean? And how can that not be paradoxical?
@Yahya Zolfiqar Iran is currently the most progressive nation in our umma respect and watch here ruclips.net/video/c5XDXnFWFrk/видео.html
@@paultrimble21 it is just a word, none of the people I know actually want AMERICANS to DIE and by authentic i mean, that Iran is shown as if you visited it, not lie they want you to see it.
Finally felt like one of the original vice documentaries. Huge fan of Suroosh and Shane, cant over state this. Keep up the super work girls and guys. Also the ending credit scene and music was awesome.
yeah right. Tell me whys the US government is since a century in the hand of zionists while the Iran government is at loggerheads with Israel since its foundation. I am no expert, no geopolitician, but it did ALWAYS strike me how America pursues Israel's interests without the two country having any real cultural/political/economical reason for proximity. And yet EVERY single Us president has always stated his uncompromising support to the jewish state. Why? Have you asked yourself that? And here comes VICE, an American news outlet, telling you how bad the Iranian government is.
@@amoreazione3563 that's probably the single weakest argument I have ever seen against US support for Israel. How conveniently you forget Iran and Israel were once close friends and allies. Israel didn't even begin receiving US support until nearly 20 years after her creation. Do you read books?
@@amoreazione3563 they both feed off of eachother. isreal and iran use eachother as boogeymen to keep their populace in check via increased police state and militarization of society.
Suroosh and Shane are my heros
@@amoreazione3563 Well that's because both Israel and the US are fascist sh*tholes
I feel like this is an actual resurgency of the old vice, lead by the person who created it.
Ben Brooks he’s always kept the old vice alive, Shane’s the one who’s driven it to be the trash it is today.
Minus the racist douchebag!
@@TheJerbol You mean Gavin Mcginness?
Justin Chaney yyy555.. Gbg
@@TheJerbol Gavin left vice early, when it was a magazine about dildos and huffing paint. Its became the news source people love after him. Then it went to shit, now it might be coming back.
I travelled to Iran almost exactly a year ago today. The people there are friendly, thoughtful, helpful and beautiful. I have been to many places, but there is no one like the Iranian people when it comes to hospitality. None of them hated the west, in fact most of them wanted to travel there, but most of them seemed to hate government regimes, both their own and the American one. They are the victims of politics, and they don't deserve to be. I hope one day they will be free of politicians' fight for power and influence.
Surprisingly majority Muslim countries are disgustingly hospitable that they make me ashamed that i can't repay them for it
"that THEY will be free of politicians" That WE will be free of politicians.
Good, that’s how a large portions of Americans feel. Tell them that next time you’re over there please. May the working class unite.
@@BrokenAbyss Don't think it has much to do with class, but more to do with power. I hanged out with people that would be considered both upper and working class over there, and they shared the same views on this. Common denominator was that they don't have power to change the situation.
@@KleinOfficial that is until you move in and don't consider a visitor anymore. Then you'll know the real deal. No hospitality whatsoever. That's why so many Iranians whish to leave their country. Im not trying to diss Iranians im originally from there and i love going there especially Shiraz its fucking amazing and full of drugs lol yeah im a dope head. Regardless, im glad to be visiting and not living there. That's just my opinion. Cheers
Dear Vice,
More of this please.
Sincerely,
Everyone
@Mustafa Iraq please tell us, like what? I'm curious, what did they miss or didn't point out?
23:30 man the older gentleman who ran the Yacht building company broke my heart. He clearly was a guy who loves his job, business and employees. It is very easy to relate with the people on the ground. They have as much control as we do when it comes to government making bad decisions. We need more people who are not bad actors and willing to actually make the world a better place.
When that yacht guy started crying I felt so bad for him
Me too!
Hes rich he be aight
a businessman puts a lot of effort and passion in his work. Seeing that destroy is more painful than financial losses.
Same here
How could one be saddened? We are all human beings. Perhaps politicians are not.
This is the respond of vice to those guys saying that they miss the old vice. Really good video
Dude they literally showed the bad side
Iago Outeiral I know! Going places their viewership knows little about with tact and empathy. Really reminded me of the North Korea train ride piece years ago.
This is the bad side lol, The good side was all the conflict videos. Thats what I remember vice for.
Iago Outeiral I totally know what you mean!
It is true, The old video shows and shares more
Man, that old shipbuilder broke my heart. He's clearly very attached to his project and probably down a lot of money into it as well.
Blame murica
@@haziqehsan Blame Iran. The Iranian government brought the sanctions onto themselves, and because of that it hurts the Iranian people too.
@@buttbuttson737 That’s the intended point of the sanctions although you have to think of this from an Iranian person’s point of view. Imagine you’re trying to make an honest living and the government makes it impossible by being a menace then not being able to do anything about it due to living in an autocratic dictatorship. The rich who live in Iran can easily get around sanctions, they have nothing to worry about while the common people have nothing.
I’m not saying to get rid of sanctions for complete trade but what I am saying is that it is unfair on those who just happen to live there.
@@buttbuttson737 Bruh. Trump literally threw away the Iran Deal and reinstated sanctions on Iran for no reason whatsoever other than Obama started the Iran Deal
@@buttbuttson737 you're obviously not a student of history. USA caused this
At 40:05 when the woman is stating her position you can hear the man quickly and slightly under his breathe say "don't say too many bad things guys" in Farsi. And the other woman nods her head. It's a telling moment.
@Julia Slane so true. Can we be friends on Instagram?
@@rationalboy007 Aren't you pushy
@@Murmire it's the modern bobs n vagene guy
@Julia Slane #pussyo
@@assassinaria for sure
Maybe the "Vice Reads Comments" video did in fact have an effect. This is the kind of stuff we're looking for, Vice.
I'm thinking that was the case
Propaganda?
This was filmed months ago............ also they left HBO so they are both posting content that HBO held back from youtube. And creating new content with less limits
Hopefully Hamilton found some new weird drugs meanwhile
No its just that there is only so much content that can be made like this.
Not all journalists are willing, and the ones that are can only make 1 video at a time, and they can take a while to produce.
"We used to drink in public and pray in private. Now we pray in public and drink in private" Damn....
woah
@@mdukasa ?
@@ksc7957 it's kinda powerful and the reality, so... Woah.
@@mdukasa I see
@@ksc7957 You see ?
My dad went to Iran long time ago and he loved it. I hope one day I can visit.
Respect from Saudi Arabia
@Mustafa Iraq no.
GTFO saudi arabia
@Mustafa Iraq no, they have made some questionable decisions funding certain rebels groups, but for the most part, they stand very against terror. And even as an ultraconservative Islamic authoritarian monarchy, they have great US relations, and are rich and powerful becuz of it. Iran cud be in the same shoes as Saudia arabia, but they're government has fked up too many times (chanting death to America doesn't help)
the old man with a half built yacht made me cry so much, I love him
Anjana Mishra wym
well aren't you an emotional one
Coniver Divide well it was kinda sad
This wasn't a documentary, this was an experience.
What did you experience then
Uh-huh?!?
Yet-another hipshit???
Bwahahahahaha!
Hey..
Here we 'meet' a-gain.
Your Bizarro World going all right, eh - "@First Name
Is democracy of bombs perfect? 12 million civilians dead because of america ruclips.net/video/P1PbewmoAJE/видео.html n
propaganda
The part with the yacht builder is heartbreaking.
Very true! It is the common people who suffer and gets sandwiched in between the tussle of two nations...I felt really bad for the yacht owner :(
Americas sanctions did that to him
pfff, dude lost his business, what about the women locked up in their own lives, the kids brainwashed - that's heartbraking
Mahler2332 Good point.
I'm watching it just thinking GIVE THE MAN A HUG FFS!!
Irrelevant to argue whether it's old or new Vice. It's just awesome when they make videos covering citizens abroad. It humanizes countries beyond a regime. I am in law school now and got hooked on vice int'l when I was in grade school. Videos like these have shaped my world view over the years immensely.
These guys interviewed the ex-head of an organization known for hating the US and rode a small boat into the straight of Hormuz. The absolute BALLS on these journalists, loving the new old Vice
@Ibbs 69 cry more
@Ibbs 69 not me
You did realize there's no female journalists in this crew.
Don't you think there's a reason for that?
*HINT* Google all the female reporters who were raped and killed.
@@googleuser9383 right nobody is saying Iran's goverment are good people.
VLMIGKHTY THREESIXOWE nobody said Iranians were bad people for being Iranian.
This is what Vice should be all about, keep feeding us this incredible stories from the ground...
This is what vice used to be almost entirely. they had all kinds of amazing stuff from the more well known stuff to lesser known stuff like dafur/sudan and all kinds of obscure places and idk why, whether it wasnt as profitable or all their correspondants got banned from most places they just don't have much of this stuff anymore and its a shame.
@@ianwatosky5481 The videos of the Ukraine protests and war was outstanding journalism. It's a shame they've fallen so far since than. Hopefully they realize or at least make a separate channel with that kind of journalism again.
It's a for profit initiative. If doing other things give them profit to do shit like these who are we to complain?
@@kerzariz8717 True, idk the profit/loss breakdown of the videos they make, but it seemed like the old videos they did got a lot more views than the newer content.
This video/documentary is a glimmer of hope as far as the journalism on this channel is concerned, i hope VICE creates more stuff like this instead of teaching everyone how to make a cross joint.
measure carefully, use a square and hold the saw straight
Feels like the old vice again
Absolutely
Not trying to be funny but could some post a link to the cross joint video that’d be helpful tm
@@Jimmy-sb6zv Are you actually too lazy to click once on their channel symbol and then copy&paste the words in the search bar?
Typing these words in this thread is waaaaay more work...xD
"Do women have enough freedom in Iran"
Guy cuts girl off and says "yes" lol
@Boston 508617 yea so much freedom. if you wanna ride a bicycle as a woman in the city, you get arrested, and thousands of people march against you lol
@Boston 508617 I know what women can do and cant do in iran. i live in turkey and im interested in women's rights in my country as well as in iran. your response continue with BUT which implies justification to brutal legislations/ limitations to oppress iranian women. yes women can hold goverment position and get education BUT as video shows, if you say a negative thing about compulsory hijab rule or anything that is related to women's freedom, you are out. this is not a fredoom as you can see, this is just a being a chained dog of the government. you are probably a man, and not affected by those opressive laws as it is seen. so let iranian WOMEN decide whether they have enough freedom or not.
@Boston 508617 dude, in turkey, we live mostly under liberal, secular laws and turkish women have much more rights than iranian women. as in your first comment, we have much more rights than western people believe. i know what you are coming from because your pride hurts when some ignorant westerners comment on your country, that's why you activated your "heyy we are not like you guys think of us we are not like completely opressed ok" mood. sometimes i feel this too. but for example, when we talk about women's rights in turkey, nobody says BUT WOMEN HAVE MUCH MORE FREEDOM THAN PEOPLE THINK OF US, WELL WE HAVE EDUCATION, GOVERNMENT POSITONS etc etc. your comment is like a justification propaganda and you dont get it. those rights you mentioned is just a tokenism that iranian government uses to dodge the real women question in iran.
I got an interesting explanation from an Iranian girl for this: in public, for cameras a lot of men will put this as a show to protect the women and themselves in front of goverment. In private woman can speak freely.
@bob bobfor hat? which comment are you replying to?
This type of Vice brings a smile to my face.
True that!!
Its CIA propaganda.
Snowing Sideways oK
@@Marty-uv7ep Don't just say ok. You have a responsibility to investigate further you fucking slug.
www.mintpressnews.com/vices-fall-counterculture-hipster-rag-neoliberal-government-mouthpiece/220431/
Snowing Sideways seems like you can’t take a joke, you fucking slug
Btw the part where the woman was saying there isn't enough freedom for them the guy in the background says "be careful what you're saying"
Not in a threatening way, though. Havaseshoon bayad jam bashe jeloye doorbin.
thnx. was wondering bout that.
Which basically means, be careful u don’t wanna end up in jail, it’s a possibility
not all women agree with her , she might be a stripper and needs a stripper club . but vice news trying to show that this how women feel in iran . i hope he asked her what freedom u want? .. what u missing ?... u want to be a plane captain ? u wanna have ur own company ?! u wanna divorce and get married again ?! wtf does she wants .... i hope i can discuss that with any iranian woman here that reads this ... reply to me .
I Think that he is trying to protect them. The reason for why I Think so is he knows that there will be reprisal from the iranian gorvernment against these 2 women if they express an honest view on the matter
I don't know what the hell happened to Vice in recent years, but it was about time you guys started dropping bomb ass documentaries like these again. Awesome documentary, great job.
American Govt Controls the News aka Vice News
They've been on HBO that's why
fuckin libtards made their way in i tell ya
nothing happened it's just ISIS ended now so they can't get any content.
Trump was elected, and like a lot of media they become obsessed with the man to an unhealthy level.
I Don't Know Why I Have Such A Strong Feeling Towards This Nation Of Iran 🇮🇷❤️
@revolutionary-brother True 🙏🏿
Please read about us we are not what the media says about us
@@sasanrad Yes we know these western devils & the games they play ...
the american flag business in Iran must be doing great
rush so is the match industry
The flags are provided by the regime and burned by actors paid by the regime... that whole “death to America” nonsense is all orchestrated by the government. Iranian civilians would never commit such embarrassing acts of aggression. We are a peace loving people imprisoned by fanatics and hardliners.
echogrid blame your parents. They overthrew the Shah thinking these guys were better haha. Sucks for you guys.
I hear the sales are on fire
rush
Made in China
Vice Hase been dropping pretty sick documentaries lately, like in the early 2010s. Keep that good trend up :D
It is because they left HBO so they can post all their content now. Nothing ever changed.
The hobo series had to be the greatest of all time
I enjoy The Dark Side Of The Ring series. Definitely check it out if you're a wrestling fan
DOCUMENTARIES NUTJOB!!
Vice is an emaciated leftist tainted organization
"Before people drank in public and prayed in private, now they pray in public and drink in private." That sums the country up perfectly.
What's bad about that?
@@babardon9977 deceit
@Kurt Erickson exactly
@@babardon9977 What's bad is that people are not free to decide for themselves how they want to live their lives
@@russiandrivers9986 only thing alcohol is good for is making people do dumb things. Especially out in public
Suroosh is a straight up legend at this point .. I’m rewatching this and a few of the earlier vice docs during lockdown .. with quality work like this, it’s well worth a revisit ...
25:13 it was heartbreaking to see the upset that the US sanctions have caused this man who's just trying to earn a living. People seem to forget that behind the aggressive Iranian and American governments are real people who are suffering.
Its unfortunate that they are suffering. Hopefully the Iranian govt can either help their citizens directly more, or make amends with the US to have sanctions lifted.
@@YourAwesomeAsian If anyone needs to make amends it is the greatest engine of terror in the US government.
The US supported the shah, supported Saddam's war against Iran, unilaterally broke off the nuclear treaty, and placed crippling sanctions including on humanitarian goods, and then has the gall to claim it's the other side who should make amends. That the US chastises Iran for funding terrorist groups and shipping arms to fuel conflict is also ironic considering that the US has been funding and arming terrorist groups like the Mujahideen, various Syrian terrorist organisations and Saudi Arabia's genocidal war on Yemen (not to mention groups in other parts of the world, like the contras). The US is a nation whose leadership is seemingly incapable of introspection.
Jesper you’re missing some context.
The USA supported the Shah because Mossadegh was attempting to steal oil producing equipment from US and UK companies. It’s one thing to expel the oil companies and pay them off for their equipment. It’s another to simply steal what isn’t yours.
The Iran nuclear deal was a joke negotiated in bad faith by Iran. The Iranians continued nuclear weapons development by advancing their ballistic missile program.
The sanctions omit humanitarian aid. The USA has been very clear that humanitarian aid is exempt from US sanctions so long as the provider performs oversight on spending.
The USA only “supported” two groups you mentioned. The USA supported part of the Mujahideen, specifically the Northern Alliance. Which is not noted as a terrorist organization anywhere. Additionally, the USA’s “support” to Saudi Arabia has been mostly weapon sales. Notice the word sales. This support is a business transaction.
@@kurousagi8155 "Theft of equipment" is not a valid excuse for toppling a democratically elected government and replacing it with an oppressive, torturous dictator.
And Iran was in full compliance with the agreement as per *every single report* made by the IAEA, equating ballistic missile development with developing a nuke is a half-assed excuse.
And US Sanctions still harm medical supplies. www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/as-coronavirus-cases-explode-in-iran-us-sanctions-hinder-its-access-to-drugs-and-medical-equipment/2020/03/28/0656a196-6aba-11ea-b199-3a9799c54512_story.html It doesn't matter what exceptions you put in place when you utterly destroy a countries ability to pay for the supplies needed.
You are also ignoring the intelligence and "training" provided to the Saudi coalition, and acting like you're only marginally involved when you literally sell them the bombs the use to drop on school busses is laughable.
Also, the US did support the Contras, they even sold Iran missiles to do it.
when the man was crying i could feel his hurt that his dream to build yachts was over
It was very sad, hurt my heart to see.
@@Dirge4july he was upset his life and dream fell apart, but cool way to be positive 🤙🏾
Edit:
He deleted his comment👌
Yeah the only thing missing is tears 😁
Yeah feelsbad for big homie
Corcadil tears
THIS is documentary film making
I laughed, I shed some tears, sat in awe of the beauty of Iran, and got angry at politicians. Fantastic
"Do Iranian women have enough freedom?" Question directed to the women at the table. Male immediately : "Women have enough freedom." oh boy.
I think it was obvious that he was trying to protect them from getting into trouble. Just look at his eyes
@@sisyphus645 good spot! second time watching i could see him pleading with his eyes for them to stick to the script
This man , sorush Alavi working with IRGC/ they're sending the Iranian money to ppl like him to make fake news against us... // ppl in street yelling our Enemy its here{{mullahs}} not there (us ) but fake journalist like him won't see or hear ..
@kamran Eslami They are people who have commited a crime. In Iran, the islamic religion is oppressive towards woman and promotes male patriarchy and control. Ben pointed out a clear and certain outline of a way that Iran's and islamic countries treat women. If you have a problem with it, defend it, or provide real counters instead of calling people pieces of shits. :D
@ZIOS RPEDOS how so is liberalism oppressive? Personally I’m a conservative, but ok.
I’m gonna need a “Getting drunk with North Korean generals” part 2 with Shane of course
the one with shane and the fish's high speed car chase will always have a special place in my heart!
Uli 1 lmao he can never go back to NK tho
Shadowdreamcast He went back recently, like right after Trump and rocket man became besties.
Best series ever
Whats that lol. Never heard of it
Damn, I thought Iran hated the US, but the thumbnail says they’re down with us
Well they're not down with the us but they are not bad people either. It is their government. Let's also not forget that they did take US citizens hostage for over 400 Days which was complete BS.
🤣🤣🤣
Iranians are really nice people
Archie Bunker1488 America fucked Iran first. Iran is just trying to survive.
Most Iranians have no problem with America or Americans. It's the radical Islamic state that hates America and everything we stand for. They believe WE are the epitome of EVIL. For Islam to teach tolerance and LOVING and FOLLOWING GOD as closely as possible, they sure have no problem with decapitating Christians. You NEVER see Christian's trying to kill other religions for not following JESUS. We use LOVE and THE GOSPEL to try to turn their hearts. You tell me which GOD seems "right"? JESUS IS THE ONLY WAY.
The producers of the docu going out for a swim in the middle of a shoot and in the middle of a conflicted region is the most VICE thing I have ever seen. This, coming from a former VICE employee.
You didn't work at Vice
F***u
@@walkerdawson5206 yea he did. Legit just google his name + vice and it is super easy to find. How lazy are you?
Except Iran is safe but otherwise you are exactly right.
Walker Dawson yes he did! He now works for Newslaundry according to what I can find online. Seriously man just google people’s names sometimes lol. Infos all there for ya!
Song that starts at 26:03 is Smoky bird Sanam Marufkhani
You legend! Just spent about an hour searching for this before i thought "just check the commentstry the comments"! Love u! xxx
@@cakkyboy glad to help man 😁
Me as well... thanks bro ❤️
thx bro as a producer, this is fucking fire hahaha
you saved my time. thank you. lovely song.
"The Dog is the brother of the Fox" is actually a pretty sick burn for a man put on the spot.
its just that persian has a lot of idioms and common phrases for different situations. something you'll find in other very old languages with very long literary traditions
@@sereysothe.a true. We have many many sayings.
Is it fox or hyena?
He translated wrong. The idiom is yellow dog is the brother of jackal.
@@sacreddeer3361
What? Says who?
Love the part when the man man-explains why women are fine in Iran, it’s told to please let the women talk, and the woman (right in front of him) says: no, we are not ok. The absolute raw power of that burn alone makes that woman a source of energy bigger than the while Iranian oil infrastructure.
Yeah this whole film is full of BS, he says the country is fine and then the people keep telling him... NO it's not, the situation is bad.
@@Dorrrr1111 quite on the contrary. He is pretty neutral to the whole thing. He even asked the other guy to shut up and let the women talk. I don't know why people got the idea that he was trying to present an agenda.
Do you even grammar bro?
She was publicy burned alive the next day
@@Dorrrr1111 I thought he was being pretty even-handed. He's being an observer, nobody's watching this to get his opinion; we want to see what's happening in Iran. Saroosh is an excellent journalist because he understands that his job is to gather information and ask questions rather than editorialize.
*They listened to us...*
thanx vice
16:02 "He said The Dog is the brother of the Fox" Hehehe - you gotta admit that was a pretty good burn
What does it mean?
@@delowarhossain70 It's a Persian saying the guy slightly mistranslated. The original translates to "The yellow dog is the jackal's brother." Which refers to a situation where even though one of a number of bad options is less bad, it will still effectively be as bad as the rest. Here, the man was implying that since the reporter is from a US media organization, he is probably the same as the rest of them.
There is a chance that he used this specific saying to refer to the situation due to a confusion in the scene where someone said the reporter is from "Voice" of America (VOA - US State Department owned media organization) and someone else corrected them and said it's "Vice", from America. In this scenario, the jackal refers to VOA.
@@pouriat92 Thanks a lot.I clearly understand it.
Long live Iran.
More like cousins
Funny thing is he was spot on
I was also in Iran in November. It is totally safe for travellers. Persians are the warmest, friendliest people. Not a day went by without someone offering me food or inviting me to their home. If you can travel around Iran without having to hire a government guide, it's totally worth the hassle of getting there.
I really wonder how it is for a female solo traveller.
Miss Mojo probably safer than Mineapolis right now
@@missmojo8779 search "nora iran"
A lone woman travelling in iran
Amirhossein TB thanks!
@@missmojo8779 🙏🏻✌🏻
My heart broked when that gentleman started crying, I'm pretty sure he wasn't crying for himself, he was crying because he knew if that company was still open how many more families would be happier.
My heart broke too. Oh God.!
"The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same."
Marjane Satrapi
Love & Peace to All Human Being.
Good quote, and true. Greetings from Manchester, England
Same can be said with the India and Pakistan, I heard before UK partitioned them in to 2 states, they were coexisting just fine.
One of my favorite authors!!!
@ScarletDespair thank you captain obvious, please continue the cynicism, its very useful.
@ScarletDespair Minoritarianism, the majority of people in the US have no control over how their government is structured. They can vote, but that the structure of US elections (2 party system) makes the voting of a minority of fanatics more effective than the majority of non fanatic votes.
This is the kind of journalism that made me sign up for a Vice subscription back in my teens. After a 5-10 year dash of terribly superficial and incredibly boring pop-news, I'm really glad to see something with a bit of gravity to it. Please keep it up.
long-haired rockstar: yeah playing outside is kind of illegal
(five seconds later)
It's brutally illegal
"do women have enough freedom in Iran?"
Man answers: "yes!"
He seemed geniunely convinced, but still makes me wonder if he just purposefully lied because of persecution or something.
@@Sundara229 That's just the definition of freedom that they've been brought up to believe. He most likely was convinced.
Although I could be wrong, I doubt men in Iran are naive or gullible for lack of a better word when it comes to the definition of freedom.
@@Sundara229 you don't get persecuted in Iran for that. lmao
men and women aren't very different. if the man answered yes then it's possibly true.
The guy told them when she started talking to watch what they say.
Suroosh single-handedly took vice in his own hands, making such a great documentary! great job !!
That was awesome! Americans do not hate the Iranian people. Iranians don't hate Americans. But our government's would have us believe otherwise. We are smarter than that!
Thank you vice for this so desperately needed story❤️🌎❤️
Looks like a wahhabi dog's been kicked in balls xD
@Fazli looks like a Saudi is triggered at the suggestion that Iranians are just people too haha
The Iranian government is perfectly justified in hating the US.
@@AlmostaFlipinSkater that wahhabi dog's DP says it all :)
My best friend is Iranian.
Imagine my shock and surprise when I realised Iranian people are just like people from any other country.
Ayman Imtyaz what did you think we were, animals? Lmao
@@kiyankhoraminezhad293 do you guys have complete access to the internet or do y'all use VPNs too?
@@ezrakramer8672 Some websites, RUclips,Twitter, Facebook, Telegram are blocked by government so we use VPNs for these.
@@SenaChalishqan okay, how's it going these days? Lockdown still in effect or eased up a little?
@@Alichills social distancing might help to a certain extent I guess, what about government sealing areas with most affected people? Avoiding huge gatherings?
Asks women if they have enough freedom
*Man instantly answers for them*
In Saudi Arabia he wont even be able to ask that. Where is a documentary about Saudi Arabian women's rights? Why isn't it there? Is it because USA is in bed with the Government? Vice is just a propaganda media. Fact.
@@dingdingdingding2871 Classic whataboutism, Vice have written tones of articles on the saudis if you bothered to do a one second google www.vice.com/en_us/article/7xm3mx/saudi-arabia-women-driving-activists-detained
@@dingdingdingding2871 Freedom and Human Rights are different.
39:29
I'm sorry but he asked the women the question. Can he not speak for the women? They are there they have a voice and he is literally talking for them it's disgusting
@@wearewatchingyouhumans6956 zio troll
Now this quality. This is what people mean when they say that they miss the old vice
im one of them people who commented that a lot, having a beer now to celabrate the occasion lol
@@cucumber623 nice
Thank you VICE for this work! The minute 26 of the reportage my heart was broken when I saw my compatriot was crying... I got lots of respect for him...
You know its gonna be a good doc when it has Suroosh Alvi, remember watching Heavy Metal in Baghdad years ago with him.
In baghdad? Who's suroosh alevi?
"do women have enough freedom in iran"
*man answers the question*
of course not
relative to rest of the middle east, YES
If you are comparing to the developed countries, NO
@@gurjodhsingh6872 Why are you comparing Iran to other countries in middle east when women in Iran had so much freedom before the revolution while other countries are struggling for women's freedom for hundreds of years?
@@gurjodhsingh6872 again, you're not a woman and not from iran, your argument is INVALID
@@megwhydoesitmatter Alright, but a... Leave XD
Chaos band was dope. The ending fits the anxiety and frustration of Iranian people
True! gave me lil chills
Yeah that was real good
When i see Iran with all these sanctions but still yet thriving i cry for my African countries always complaining about colonialism while we don't even have basic organization skills.
You will all be better off if your government keeps Bill & Melinda Gates foundation (foundation of crime) and WHO from meddling into its people. They’re NOT qualified for the positions they’ve put THEMSELVES INTO.
If with all their billions (Gates) and all of our wasted tax dollars (WHO) wanted to do good for African & Asian countries, they’d offer nothing but clean drinking water and food. They are eugenicists, Gates parents always were & his actions prove the “apple didn’t fall far from the tree” and inherited/learned those same evil ideas and has the intent, thats proven. The more countries that have woken up to their wreckless behaviors & practices, have banned them...so now, they’re pushing their “skills” onto their fellow American citizens.
m.journal-neo.org/2020/09/28/gates-vaccine-spreads-polio-across-africa/
Colonialism royally fucked Africa. The way they divided the continent was not conducive to organizing. They really need other countries to actually care about helping.
@@patriotpeasant199 So much for "critical thinking"...
@@M29NT Welcome to Murica right? Lol
@@patriotpeasant199 conspiracy theorist spotted
"The West feels you have no real freedom here, comments?" "My shawl fell off and I lost my car."
This... this is the vice I’ve missed for so long...
Now if only Shane had been the host...
@@curly8393 dude Suroosh Alvi is one of the Co-Founders! He is a great host and the fact that he is Pakistani-Canadian and muslim definitely helps in situations like this.
Suroosh and Shane are who we want to see. These guys are real journalists.
and hamilton morris :D
Don't forget about Ben Anderson
Bro yes those two literally go to the craziest fuckin places from cannibals in Liberia and fake tours in North Korea to bin ladens home in Pakistan to war torn Iraq
Don't forget Simon Ostrovsky, the guy who was literally taken prisoner and the day he got out he went straight back into a warzone to cover the Crimean situation. Speaking to real people about real things attempting to be genuine. I really hope that this vice is actually coming back.
How come no one mentions Isobel Yeung, she's amazing!! From the Assadist dictatorship in Syria to the CCP's concentration camps in Xinjiang, she's extremely brave.
12:22 thats cute moment when the father let the kid play in his back while he pray
This piece of reporting is excellent and an eye opener.
Or the Iranian people are eye opening but the commentary is dog shit
Kind of a glimpse into how Vice used to be...
It's my 21st birthday today and its been terrible, and just seeing this old vice type of video has cheered me up
CON NOR Happy birthday mate !
@@MrChandan2398 thanks mate
Happy birthday man, it might’ve not been great now but just wait until you can celebrate for real after the virus!
You’re gonna be just fine, young man. Check out videos by a cat named Casey Zander. It’s stuff I wish I learned at your age about how to be a high quality man. Let me know what you think.
@trevor1317 ahah I wish I had £1200, but I guess iv got my family
When I was meeting the crew on-board Iran Air back I noticed that most of the people were quite normal. Most of them were quite friendly and polite, some were eager to ask questions.
And then we had the male security officers that never smiled, always spied on everyone, never talked to anyone and looked like they were in a bad mood 24/7.
Guess which people runs the country?
34:40 Let that sink in the fact that her children are all currently a US residents and studying and living there. In fact, most of the current cabin's authorities have children offshore living or "studying". Mostly in US too.
This comment will get deleted :(
i confirm this, her children are living in the states
@@hatefueled3857 I bet she is just a figurehead because of her fame from taking part in the embassy hostage situation. I doubt she has much authority in her career. I'm too lazy to check but I would even bet that the president of "Iran for Women and Family Affairs" is a man who calls the shots. She just enjoys the benefits of being a famous student activist.
Wait... her kids are living in the United States?
deep down, she knows western values and society is better
Feel sorry for the yacht owner.
superapple21 I was just about to write the same comment.
dont be he has probably enough wealth to continue his life as it was. but alot of other iranians who have really bad financial situation and lack of freedome cant live normaly since 40 years now. sanctions or no sanctions, doesnt make any difference. If the sanctions are withdrawn only the people who are in the body of the regime gonna benefit from it.
@@22204633 yea but it hurts loosing something you worked hardbon fornso long
NOPE. they transitioned from a guy crying over luxury yachts to a $2billion dollar grave. fuck rich people and fuck wealth. it's all poison.
The look on his face made my heart and stomach hurt.
That shipbuilders story almost made me tear up.
Lets make sanction for all Presidents and politics and leave normal working people in pace!
majority of the documentary focused on the so called "hardliners"
not mentioning the fact that
all these "hardliners" have high positions in the government and their kids live in first world countries as millionaires.
and all those people in the government rallies are often paid to be there rather than wanting to be there.
Would have been nice to further focus on the untold realities which still remain untold and unknown to many.
They put those here and there if we watch carefully. I think that Vice is like walking on Shiratal string. So, they are very careful to not complicate any people involved.
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I beive they were trying to show both sides of their society. Like any reputable documentary maker.
Guess I’ve watched a different documentary?!
We've all missed this kind of Vice. More of this and less of other please, (everyone knows what I'm talking about here)
You just can’t handle criticism of your conservative movement. What a sensitive person you are
No vice never changed, stop talking out your ass
cardsblues219 you can’t even differentiate their and there. Vice has always posted political videos. You people only like news criticizing liberals. When it comes to criticizing conservative topics, you people are as rabid as SJWs.
cardsblues219 lol. You ignoramus should read how vice started. Vice has always posted political stuff since its inception.
Im an outsider to american politics all i know is vice hasnt changed..
Suroosh's perpetual resting hitman face is just great
He's like tired and not into it, but that kinda reflects our mood as well.
Please clarify your "big mood"-esque language to us, Mr "@@asiftalpur3758".
@@maazkalim nah you're not worth it tbh
Uh-huh?!?
A clairvoyant - huh, Mr "@@asiftalpur3758"?
@@maazkalim pls stop using big words, they really don't suit your virgin lifestyle
In the cafe: "Is life harder for women here?"
Guy: (jumps in immediately to speak over the women about their "good"quality of life....0_o!)
Isaiah Baggett mansplaining ... unites us all
the question is: do you think 40 years of sanctions have made the restrictive side of Islam better or worse in Iran?
Man mansplaining if whats life like to be a womanz
@@ornatus9616 do u think oppressing women is contingent on economic success? Economic sanctions?
When the woman started answering the question the man said in farsi: " be careful of what you are going to say, don't say too much"
bacause it's iran and any opposition against the goverment we live in is not being tolerated.
This was the purest documentary about Iran.
Irani people:we love America
Americans:we love too
Irani gov:we hate you
Us gov:we hate too
Exactly.
American govt : we hate you too people
And because of these we have sanctions on you
@ClickNSpam you are right but remember I'm neutral in my scence u.s should avoid interference in middle East and Iran should learn to get peace with other Arabs despite it is a shia anyway despite all these live in peace stay strong against corona
@@kallesh.pkallesh8870 kannada it's been a long time since I've read kannada damn
I don’t love the Iranian ppl and I don’t know anyone who loves them maybe respect them but we aren’t buddy buddy
Sanctions blocking medicine seems like a human rights issue to me, how is that legal? Just like some of the Iranians say, I love the people of Iran but not the government. And trust me, I know the US government has done some bad things too. Like blocking medicine.
We shouldn't be keeping people from getting their medicine, it's just messed up in my opinion.
Like blocking medicine? Us overthrew a democratic elected president in 1951 and put a corrupt sociopath in power so they could get their oil. The only reason us hate Iran is because they took back power and their resources.
@@defeatedpuppy9284 Yes that too, I'm so sorry I didn't list everything bad the US government has done since 1950
@@aurorawolfe6060 sorry if I came up as rude. Not my intention
@@defeatedpuppy9284 mainly carried out by the British for their interests but no one seems to talk about that🤷♂️
Because the Jews in Israel are threatened by a strong regional power like Iran impeding their colonialism.
Hope every Iranian interviewed in this documentary are safe.
18 lashes.
This isn’t Saudi Arabia or occupied Palestine we’re talking about.
you mean this?
unwatch.org/amnesty4hamas/
I can promise you they will get in trouble if they get out of line. Furthermore they were told as much. At roughly 40 minutes in the girls being interviewed even said they didn't want to go to jail...
Those protest happen because they are planned by the government.
A number likely got covid-19, the older and weaker likely passed. Everyone who was busy sabre rattling 5-6 months ago has some serious problems they can't shoot or bomb their ways out of now. Man plans, and the fates laugh, so it goes. ;)
Come on give that old man on the shipyard a f*cking hug
Whatever you say but Iranian girls are finee as hell💥
lmao ngl you made me laugh asshole
I’m a straight girl myself and I can agree with that 😂🤣
How you cant even see them, shower curtain business is probably BOOMIN
I'm playin yeah they pretty
bonk! go to horny jail
I felt for the man making the boat, to see hard work and investment thrown away because of something out of your control is heart breaking. I hope he finds some sort of relief.
I was about ti cry with him too. heart breaking:(( but all are IR fault no other country...
I had the privilege to travel to Iran in May 2019 and it was the most fascinating and beautiful destination I've ever been. The people are the kindest you will ever meet. The Iranian regime is the opposite from how most of Iranian citizens are: open-minded, progressive, broadly interested, enormously hospitable to foreigners
you ever seen pictures of Iran prior to their Islamic revolution? very diffrent place.
LibertarianPersian the regime is helping iranian dignity? What world are you living in wtf is wrong with you
@@aspects8645but what about America, who is the key players of people sufferings ?
Then why do they tolerate it? Enough is enough
I second that. Been there in 2017. Was probably my most exhilarating emotionally intense trip ever. Overwhelming really.
The old Man make me tear for a beat cause I'm from Venezuela
"We don't wanna end up in jail".
I think this quote should be enough to explain most of this documentary.
there is no freedom of speech in iran
No, it's not. Thats a very pessimistic way of looking at it. When you close a country off like that, you can't expect development or modernisation. Iran isn't like North Korea and shouldn't be. Better relations and trade would solve a lot of problems Iran is facing today.
Donuts on the beach, the ultimate flex.
Do women have enough freedom here?
Women: so...
Man: yes of course!
Timothy Houle so lets invade and kill everyone to liberate those women right!?
@@jamchelsea100 Absolutely not! Violence is for the weak.
@@jamchelsea100 nah! let those pigs live in the 7th century
Women are more liberal in Iran. If you want to question, ask Saudi women for rights. or maybe Palestinian. :)
@@gurjodhsingh6872 the whole middle east region is a shithole for a lot of things and especially women's rights
Hell yeah please PLEASE make more documentaries like this one, it reminds me of the olden times when VICE used to be the most badass news channel promoting real stories
My dad's family, a religious and ethnic minority, escaped Iran during the Revolution. I'm in my 20s, born in California, and often asked him about that time, but he refused to address it. Thank you VICE for putting together such an informative, fair, and cohesive documentary about an issue so many are afraid to speak about. Please make more videos like this :)
He made a good choice buddy. Maybe cause he doesn't want you anywhere near that lifestyle and want to be free and respect every religion nor culture. Respect to your Dad.
Bahai by any chance?
Betrous al Taweel jew
They should come to los angeles to see world glass country. Every one's life is perfect. Dump ass
maybe because he filled his pockets with Iranian's people money and moved to Beverly and dont want you near that scandal.
Return old vice, return.
Tejas Shelar yeahhh brooo
38:00 Damn these murals are actually pretty dope.
Not even going to lie I paused to look at it
I like the confidence he has to do a documentary like this wearing a gold patek phillipe nautilus
For anyone looking for the song played during the shipbuilder's interview: Smoky Bird by Sanam Marufkhani and Maya Novaa
Thank you!
Thank youuuuuuu, simply fell in love by this wonderful and warm voice!
Thank you soooooo much. I was pulling my hair out (figuratively) searching RUclips for it with nothing but a few lyrics to go on and nothing. I was just about to place a help post but decided to scroll the comments to see if someone mentioned it. So glad I did. Big love and thanks. That song is so awesome.
I am very glad that this was helpful! I as well spent hours looking for it, which is why I thought it important to share lol.
@@fiftysquiggly Yes sir very thoughtful and very much appreciated.
Excellent illuminating humanizing documentary. Every American needs to see this, the average American has more in common with the average Iranian than either has with their governments.
I'm American, and a lot of this kinda of just re-enforced my view of Iranians. Outside of Tehran, the majority of the people are indoctrinated.
exactly
@@samuelboucher1454 then you weren't paying attention and should thank god that you've never lived in a country that follows up it's threats w/ oppressive secret police who will put you in a terrible hole we could never even imagine for speaking the truth. Also all I consistantly heard was people saying how they don't hate the US, just our government, and shit...I hate our government. In fact, many used stronger words than that saying that they love american people just not our government which makes sense considering all the sanctions do are hurt these every day people. Put yourself in someone elses shoes for a chance and try to understand how you would feel if you happened to be born over there bcz thats the only difference between us and its something we cant control.
@@nikkigriffin08 LOL, you obviously don't understand the newer penal codes. You should try walking in any US government office and accuse them of something, and tell me if you were conscious on your way to the can, where the other 2,600,000 pruno drinkers are, and 1/2 probably wrongly accused hahahahh
WW3 I wouldnt do that bcz im not an idiot, the difference is that in Iran, you can be sent to a hole for simply expressing your views even just to your friends, family, coworkers, and neighbors. Noone is going to come snatch me up and put me in jail bcz I fly a pride flag outside my house. The US is nowhere near as oppressive as the Iranian government...yet, but I will agree with you that it’s headed that way, and that if you’re a person of color then it is basically just as oppressive
One of my dreams, is to go to Iran. I was so close, back in January, when I went to Armenia...And then shit happened
😢😢😭
Please try again after the Pandemy is over. I went to Iran in 2017 and I assured you that Iran is worth the visit!
@@TheDitatifani The closest this American has ever seen of Iran, was on an episode of the Shahs Of Sunset when they went right up to the border for some sand to remind them of home...missing it but now allowed back b/c they’d fled. They were being surveilled the entire time, & eventually had to leave after their driver said things were getting too dicey.
All I can say, is they definitely have control over their boarders!! Which in my opinion, isn’t a bad idea for any country or region....as well as ones private property.
The background music they use during certain scenes was so fitting. This whole documentary was awesome! Instead of just feeding into the biases, they decided to show another side to Iran. I miss these type of Vice documentaries!
Yes, Vice. More of this. This is the news organization you promised us from the beginning.
Strait of Hormuz - World : This is where WWIII could break out
Vice : This is where Iranian people come for Vibing
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So my first thought was I'm not wasting an hour on a VICE doco, they have been so average lately. Saw a few comments about it being more like the old VICE, and I have to agree. This was such a good watch, hopefully they continue with their old style.
When the title starts with "Vice guide to..." you're back in the good times baby
The probability of finding genuine humble warm and friendly people is highest in Iran 🙏....love from Hendoostan 🇮🇳