Brand X - Nuclear Burn (1976)
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- AMG: Brand X were a British jazz-rock fusion outfit formed by Genesis drummer Phil Collins and Atomic Rooster guitarist John Goodsall as a side project from their regular groups. Their initial lineup also included keyboardist Robin Lumley and bassist Percy Jones (the Liverpool Scene, the Scaffold). Brand X's debut album, Unorthodox Behaviour, was released in 1976; a live album, Livestock, and the studio effort Moroccan Roll followed in 1977. Collins left the group to concentrate on Genesis, and for 1978's Masques, he was replaced by Al Di Meola drummer Chuck Burgi, as well as additional keyboardist Peter Robinson, who had played with Stanley Clarke. Three further albums -- 1979's Product, 1980's Do They Hurt?, and 1982's Is There Anything About? -- followed before the group disbanded. In the mid-'90s, Lumley, Goodsall, and Jones reunited, issuing several live collections in the years to follow.
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Not going to lie.... Before hearing this I thought Phil Collins was an overrated drummer. I was then directed to this and I have no words on how good he is in this.
The more you study this the more you will appreciate Phil. So damn good.
+crazytrain58 A friend of mine one day asked me, in all sincerity, if Phil was a good drummer. I gave him one look like "dude..."
I played some Genesis tracks, including "In that Quiet Earth" I believe, and this track. Completely changed his mind.
The funny thing is hes a good drummer, just shit at everything else.
explosive0effects well he's an incredible music writer and innovator. he spawned the drum sound of the 80s, created the most recognized drum fill of all time, he recorded all instrumentens by himself on both sides, so you can't say he's shit at guitar or bass, and he has a very powerful and technically brilliant voice. i mean, just look at him performing supper's ready live. 23 minutes of never missing a note, and that's with him extending shit too. complete and utter nonsense you're spewing.
explosive0effects Rockdoo said all that needed to be said to you. Eat shit simpleton.
the synth solo has been constantly playing in my mind for weeks... cant get rid of it
I did a good job drumming for this track, didn't I?
everything you do is a good job, but this was exceptional.
was that really you Phil or just another Phil Collins having a giggle, if it is you thankyou for years of great drumming and songwriting, happy new year as well mate
Yes you did. Your whole Brand X drumming is extraordinary. Not to mention your Genesis career... superb.
Phil Collins has no need to doubt his ability and influence of many generations of musicians and fans alike. Just know its OK to be just Phil, the rest is history and speaks volumes for itself, Peace to that anxiety of being worthy, its been unjustified anxiety of someone who keeps giving to others more than themselves!
Gary Parris huh,what that mate.
the lid off?what,blimey?time to refill me pipe!!!thanks,mate.and by the way....im the real Phil Collins
Percy Jones' bass skills are un-fucking-believable. And I have no words for Phil Collins and John Goodsall...absolutely mind blowing skill.
Rest In Peace John Goodsall💔
Don't forget Robin Lumley
Jones is the best bass player in the UK
Goodsall killing it ..... RIP John Goodsall ...
I had the pleasure of seeing Brand X when they toured with Genesis on the "And Then There Were Three" tour.Phil pulled double duty.It was at the CNE stadium in Toronto , great show
Wow I had no idea they did this together. Lucky you!
He sort'a had the same amount of bands and wives....and i guess they both (both) overlaped at some point.
Phil Collins on drums In Genesis is most than good, but in Brand X incredible good
SIIIIIII, COINCIDO TOTALMENTE CON VOS!
The clean execution of these drum parts is 110% artistry. This is Phil's drumming style in full maturity. All mystique.
Again...... This music isn't just one drummer. It also features Morris Pert playing in tandem with Collins. Both of equal talent with drums.
@@richardnixon682 What on earth makes you say that? There's only one drummer credited for the drums on Unorthodox Behaviour (Brand X's debut album which this piece is from) and it's Phil Collins. Morris Pert played on some of their later albums, however he played percussion, not a drum-kit.
Reminds me of Billy Cobham
Phil Collins killing it on Drums
that aint phil collins
@@aprilmcdonald4165 It *is*, actually. Look it up.
April McDonald lol. It sure is.
Dude is unreal
Here's my opinion of the world's greatest rock drummer, period. Phil Collins' work with Brand X. It kinda makes sense that he turned it in to become a pop star. I still have these albums though and they don't lie...
PHIL COLLINS...a GREAT drummer !
The bass sounds like a fretless precision with flats. Pretty damn kickass track! 😎
Percy Jones plays fretless exclusively (I think) and that could very well be an Precision. Good ear! He built his own effects and played Wal basses later on.
Phil Collins is a precise, correct, and accurate drummer and has a sense of the rhythm fantastic.
I do not understand why many American and English magazines do not consider him, as if it were a "mediocre drummer". Craziness!
I have yet to hear (in recent times, 1970, 1980, 2000 etc, etc) of this level drummers. However the magazine "Rolling Stones" P.Collins considers a "mediocre". Maybe he did not pay the bribe ...
robertoladisa Philnis amazing no doubt, but as time goes on, more and more people are coming out of depths capable of this level of playing.
I mean, first example: Brand X's current drummer; Kenny Grohowski.
Hunter Beveridge yeah, that’s just a product of when people play as well as this at a given time, it always resets the bar for the next generation of musicians.
robertoladisa Ehhh, they're simply fools. Pay them no heed!
They like to hate on him because of his Motown era
just don't forget to mention Percy Jones! Such an amazing bass player!
And he's still touring with the band.
sayon amazing fretless bass player!
PERCY IS THE MAN!!!!
Actually I could never tell if he was brilliant or terrible. And I still can’t.
I never, never tire of this. Phil is one of my favorite drummers, Percy one of my favorite bassists. Love the work the two of them have done on some of Brian Eno's music.
Brand X were/are superb.
The best 'fusion' band known.
besides return to forever.
Did that Collins guy ever do anything else of note?
Amazing music ! These guys are just knocking it out of the park !
Most people think of Phil Collins only as a successful pop singer. He is (or maybe, unfortunately, he was) a top-quality drummer. Don't you believe? So, just listen...
I didn't know until I heard this track!
One of the best...!
Vernell Thomas he’s played on a LOT of records.
Singer, keyboardist and all round musician
Oh he is quite excellent 🌙👋
A lot of people give props to Phil because of this track, but you have to take into account the rest of the guys, the constant awesome bass lines by Percy, the awesome guitar riff by Goodsall and the captivating heavily-delayed keyboard solo by Lumley. Everyone in this album is insanely skilled! The rest of this album keeps this same level of awesomeness. There are bands and musicians who are extremely skilled, yet they can come up with music this good.
+CoTeCiOtm correct.collins was coming off the genesis " trick of the tail" album where he debuted as a vocalist and was probably feeling good. hes a good drummer- not great- but he had a great supporting cast for this jam
Good not great? What do you consider a "great" drummer?
phil collins loser!!!
No doubt - badasses, all of them. I think people are getting worked up because no one knew he had these jazz fusion hi hat chops, etc.
This track is only a sniff of a taste of all the work of Brand X and Phil is only one of a half dozen or so drummers that worked with the band, including legendary Morris Pert. Nobody thinks Phil Collins was the only real talent in Brand X.
Reminds me of the last 4 minutes of Cinema Show. Excellent.
Well, Phil is playing similar stuff
Never thought of that but you're right and I have been jamming Selling and Unorthodox behavior. for decades...:)...But they are both Phil in his PRIME...Hey if you got some sweet beats, ya gotta rock em...:)
I'm pretty sure Phil doesn't play on Moroccan
Osiris Lescano I wrote unorthodox behavior What are you talking about? Yeah, I derped...I was just listening to it (morrocan roll) before I rocked this...I stand corrected; but I did know and I am seeing them friday night near philly...Can't wait! ...And I am hitting some loud too...:)
Haha fooled me for a second. Funny thing about this record is Bill Bruford worked on it too, that's how Bill and Phil met. Thus, 1976 Genesis toured with Bill standing in on drums before Chester Thompson took over
i am sure phil cannot believe his ears what he was capable of doing! fantastic surreal wonderful...
It always amazes me as I am sure half of us drummers can no longer do what we did back then...
age catches up to all of us :(
RIP John Goodsall.
Percy Jones e Phil Collins verdadeiras feras!!!
How the hell you made this type of music back on 1976 ??? This is so damn amazing, Mr Collins your drum as great as your vocal, regards from indonesia 👍👍👍👍👍
I dunno , ask Billy Cobham in 1974... ruclips.net/video/-TaaCkjoITQ/видео.html
killer basslines from percy jones nails it phill just slamming on drums man.
John goodsall is one of the best guitarists from the era on anything they produced.
Phil is now suffering from the repetitive motion injuries that drumming can engender. I hope he takes some comfort in the incredible brilliance of this sort of work.
thomasmandalla I’ve been familiar with Phil’s drumming both solo and in Genesis, but here you really hear his incredible technique in its full application. It’s incredible. Phil’s a musician in the purest sense.
..... and tinnitus......rhymes with genius.
@@itsallrobbishTinnitus sucks dog feet ruins good musicians.
In those days was Phil really in shape.
he was at his prime late 70s - early 90s. powerful shit
Holy shit! Phil's drumming is absolutely incredible on this track, what an honour to listen to such musicianship along with the other guys. Benchmark stuff IMHO. 👍🏻
Just as bad ass today as it was in 1976. ♥♫
I first heard this album on a bus ride in Thailand during the early 90's a guy was playing it on a small boombox and I really liked it. It's still going strong and reminds of the good ole days!!
Great groove in 7/8 - for Phil Collins, coming from Genesis, where they changed the time signature in every bar sometimes, piece of cake!
This sounds very simmilar to Chick Corea Return to Forever.
Guitar line is Al DiMeola esque for sure.
Neil Peart's favorite drummer and a huge influence on his playing!
Accidentally I found out about them through my cousin who put me on Bill Bruford and David Sancious at the same time. Great musicianship!
Yes, indeed - CHOPS. Love it, thanks for sharing.
Phil Collins is a genius!
@Jfilth If you don't know them already: Mahavishnu Orchestra was a staple. Chick Corea with Return to Forever. Try also albums made in the '70s by members of those two groups: Stanley Clarke, John McLaughlin, Billy Cobham. Al Dimeola, Jean-Luc Ponty. Bill bruford has done interesting things but solo (Not with Yes or King Crimson etc...). Uzeb. Jerry Goodman and Jan Hammer. There are many, but those are the obvious ones.
It's actually closer to "Ace of Wands", a song from Steve Hackett's first solo album that Phil (and Mike Rutherford) played on, than to anything Genesis did.
Was turned onto this around '76 after Genesis. Jazz fusion makes me feel all warm inside. I need to revisit once or twice a year. Don't forget, Phil was in the Beatles movie, Hard Days Night as a child!
I bought this album in '77
The vinyl is still lovingly placed on the turntable, from time to time. Even though I ripped it to 24/96 flac.
I much prefer Phil's drumming on this, to anything he did with Genesis.
Much more jazz drumming.....which just is not rock. I wonder where Phil Collins might have gone were he to have driven/dove into jazz. I am convinced he would have been legendary. But jazz is not something you can 'dabble' in. You have to live it, feel it. Wynton Marsalis understood this when he left classical music. Rock certainly made a good living, unlike jazz. I would love to hear Phil on this subject and if he ever had any regrets.
Yep, young dudes. This is the stuff many of us used to groove on when we were at your age. Hard to understand, eh?
I can't count how many times I used to listen to this.
former Pat Martino drummer Kenwood Dennard filled in for Phil on 1st US tour.... smply amazing to see & hear....
I first heard Brand X in 1977 when Moroccan Roll came out. My cousin played it for me and I was totally amazed at what these guys could do.An incredible piece of music.After that I bought all their music I could get my hands on and have loved them ever since. It's a shame most Genesis fans especially the post Gabriel ones have no idea about Brand X and the fact Phil Collins played drums for them. It's their loss man.
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I just realized that the chords to the first synth solo are the same as "Black Napkins"- Zappa
Almost the same year too?
you know I hate wank guitar playing but this guitarist has something else,his beautiful tone,like McLaughlin.
Growing up in this era of music is why i think most of the music today sucks so bad.
@Jamie Uhler
where? I need links
In matter of fact, I wholeheartedly agree with you.. I was just low-key fishing for more and more good music :/
I don't know a lot of jazz fusion bands that currently make music cos it started in the 70s, but ADAM NEELY, probably the most intesting youtuber out there, has a jazz fusion band called SUNGAZER. They use a lot of samples (i like samples but it depends on tastes) but listen to a couple of their crazy songs this is really impressive..
About today's music, I'd say Radiohead is a really great band, probably my favorite for experimenting with jazz/electronic/spooky-rock/krautrock in Kid A and Amnesiac
Other genres are also interesting like post-rock with long experimental and slowpaced rock, but again, you like it or not.. I would recommend Sigur Ros for the beauty (but this has nothing to do with brand X) and God speedyou Black Emperor for something darker..
Cos honestly, Brand X was never a huge pop band.. You have to compare the underground music of the time with the underground music of today.. I don't really like 70s pop and soft-rock and I certainly don't like modern pop
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Two of my favorite newer artists. In fact, there is something about Stimpy Lockjaw that reminds me of Brand X.
@ Sam Jones : _"Most"_ of the music from every decade sucks.
But it's actually way easier to find the good stuff now, you just have to stop _thinking_ it doesn't exist _"these days"._
Unbelievable quality level. Almost unknown "side B" of Mr. Collins.
I found this album back in 1985 when I was in high school. I cant tell you how many people I have turned them on to this and blown their mind.
Don't forget J
I'm trying to learn this bassline by ear... But OH MY IS IT DIFFICULT!!! Does anyone have tabs or notation for it? Pretty please? It's one of my favorite ever basslines, and I know certain parts, but I need notation for the opening and certain transitions and parts... Thank you!
Slick band. Tight sound and not afraid to go to places. Very similar to Soft Machine with Holdsworth
never mind the drummer (only joking) - give the bass player some recognition
Just discovering this, blazing hot music, especially Phil's powerhouse percussion. His dynamics are so on point; he can be sailing along playing fast, quiet, fills, then suddenly explode into full volume.
still love it!!
woohoo, double your pleasure! dig it, man. this is the tightest fucking drumming ever. phil collins was a bad ass back in the day..
Cheers to all of you who witnessed Phil's stellar drumming with Brand X. There is one last hidden gem that you guys should listen - Marscape -. This concept album is just out of this world and one of the most important album made with Phil. Enjoy your discovery if not done already..!
Indeed, a great album! Wasn't it pretty much Brand X before they were called Brand X?
Damn I never new Phil Collins could play like that!. Thanks Aquarian.
Listen to genesis albums 1972 to 1978 your mind will leak out your ears
Masterpiece
OMG it is pure awesomeness
I saw that band opening for Peter Gabriel
Bless you geezer
Cool opening track, but why twice - to save us all the hassle of pressing replay?
Amazing..... Had a cassette of Product back when I was 16.. Wore that out crusing. Great to find some Brand X on You Tube.
Once in a lifetime band.
Great performer, I like!
last time I heard this song it was more than 30 years ago.... what a pleasure to listen to it again... amazing guys playing here... percy jones lord of bass guitar...
HIGH CLASS.......
efing Percy Jones is so good.
Phillip God of Drummers History thats it , no needs other words
Questo pezzo si merita un bel 9, siete daccordo?
Sì
Li conosco da 30 anni son tornato a riascoltarli,:e questo lp non me l’hanno piu’ restituito, son generoso, si faceva cosi’ per far partecipe di un bel disco , ne avro ‘ persi due sedicine……🥶🤓
If you like this then check out ( if you have not done so yet) Soft Machine, Gong, Old Dixie Dregs,
dave chalfant isotope
The Brand X were second only to the Weather Report, probably on a par with the Retur To Forever in the history of creative music of all time (Jazz-Rock). I point out to Noob and lamer musicians that period of jazz-rock is considered the most important musical moment in the history of modern music of all time! The rest of the music is just garbage business that anyone could produce.....
Don't forget, before any of those bands were around there was Tony Williams' Lifetime and then Mahavishnu Orchestra.
Holy Shit man did you and I grow up in the same house ? Amen brother.
And let's not forget the mighty Passport
Bundles.....👍😀👍😀👍😀👍
Lol these guys are great and I love this kind of music but you sound like such a stuck up ass I gotta say, remember that taste is subjective
Yes, yes you Did, Phil.
Check your dates - Firth of Fifth was cut in 1973, and this song in 1976.
I think it's much safer to say that the drummer has a unique style, developed through his own intense musicianship, and that there are similarities of approach throughout his range. I wouldn't say that the drumming here was in any way similar to that he did in Genesis, though.
Magic
Neal Pert couldn't play this
eargasm from 1:57 to 2:55
75-77 were two incredible years for fusion
Listening to this reminds me of Mahavishnu Orchestra.
This Is A Very Strange Record That I Love Too !!
I think you have that backwards - Brand X was formed in the mid-70's, after Genesis had been together for several years. Their most metrically complex work is from before Brand X was formed. After Brand X was formed, Genesis started to go in a more rhythmically simple direction.
More than good, beautiful... realy beautiful!
In a class of one Mr Collins.
Weather Report Before Weather Report!
Wow
Weird thing: Phil Collins is also credited with vocals on this track.
This is great stuff. Also, One Hot Night In Paris is pretty sick. Check it. PS, Phil is in fact of the best drummers hands down. This is subjective but just look at his resume...it's insane.
What a talent!
A good drum lesson for those who love musical instrument!
Away from the circus jugglers multiple pedals like "thomas lang and co)" Phil collins sends us his talent as a musician, ingenuity and finesse.
Thank you Phil!
masterguss1976 no double bass needed when you have talent
I’ve changed my mind about Phil… bravo!!❤
I got hit with a 47minute ad before this video. WTF is youtube doing? That's not an advertisement, it's an informercial! Who is going to wait 47 minutes to watch a video on youtube? RUclips needs to stop this crap! I kept refreshing the page until I got a shorter 30 second ad to hear this song.
You hold an awfully long grudge don't you... I don't disagree with a thing you said... but man he could play those drums, there are moments on the Lamb that give me goosebumps just like this does. Prog rock died, and the virtuosos who created it had to make a buck (they never got rich like the pop charlatans they were up against). It is what it is...
Phils shuffling is incredible!!! This drumming is otherworldly. So solid.
EVH mentioned this as one the last bands he was into.
This band kills!
They started at school, phil joined later was working for a few people and was doing both genesis and brand x at the same time.
lol, Mahavishnu Orchestra meets RTF meets Genesis, meets... SAGA! cool
im not washing his hands of anything he did wrong. but he wrote songs that millions of people enjoyed and brought happiness to their lives. thats the point of music. i would say he hit the nail on the head more than another musician who plays something that 1% of the population cares for.
11/8 :o
born 1959 brandx chgd my appreciation of music 4ever