It stems from the old proggers. To them they wanted Phil and Genesis to keep belting out prog rock tunes forever and saw him as a sell out as he turned pop.
@@G.R.V-v4g And that is exactly correct as i am one of them & i would take all Phils work with Brand X & Genisis as his best playing the rest was music for money. Sad he can't play this way with his back issues as he was one hell of drummer. His talent as an opinion was lost on his commercial efforts even if it did make him famous. That's why he was chastised so much just because it was a talent lost for fame & money. Either way the man is a class act we wanted to hear more of that progressive style.
@@paullevine1813 Phil paid his dues long before he went commercial. I have never understood the stubborn close-mindedness of belly achers when it came to Phil and Genesis. I'm one of the pop song Phil junkies, I suppose, but even so - I grew up woodshedding on progressive music, and the capper is, with Collins -is that he kept prog elements in a great deal of his pop foray. Refer to Easy Lover, Take me Home, etc...with or without Genesis.
@@joelalexander4513 I can listen to all of his music and enjoy it. Haters gonna hate, he did what he wanted and did it well. Can't say the same about the haters.
Lol... phil and his drums. Can Rock anything. Listen to his timing on and off the ride and Hi Hat, mixing the snare and Bass...guy was absolutely amazing
Uno de mis discos preferidos de Brand x , y lo compré justo en el año en que salió y lo escuchaba a diario !!! Exelente disco y exelente phil y todo Brand x
Here because I’m just now learning about Phil’s secret life as a drumming superhero. Secret to me, anyway. And what an incredible supergroup this is, too.
@@tiedupsmurf You speak truth. People love to hate on Phil because.. he made the music he did. Me, I love it, but I get that some folks don't like solo Phil. What those people don't understand is just how insanely great Phil was at what he did. Apologies to the Brand X fans - this isn't necessarily my favorite music (I'm a Genesis guy) - but for anyone who doubts Phil on drums - I direct them to Brand X Phil.
Wow... Came here off the back of the Drumeo Phil Collins special and that was an awesome little taste of these guys. I knew he was a cracking drummer from Genisis but he's bloody cooking here.
They get so many comments on Nuclear Burn, how they had no idea how good Phil actually was, that the Brand X fans start to get mad, and say, "there are other members of the band, you know!!"
Along with Robin Lumley on keys is the great Peter Robinson, a brilliant player in every respect. My band opened for Brand X in Chicago in 1982, Robinson had the first Prophet V I’d ever seen. I asked him how voices it was, he held up 5 fingers…
I never appreciated Phil Collins till I went to see "Song Remains the Same" at an Alamo Drafthouse and instead they showed a Genesis concert film. It was from the prog era of Genesis and Phil had only recently replaced Peter Gabriel. I had no love for Genesis and would've walked out but from the very first minute I was enthralled. His drumming was insane and the songs were great and that familiar Phil Collins' voice. And also Bill Bruford! I'm glad I stuck it out. Even my goth girlfriend liked it and she hated everything!
I saw this live on TV. I ran a lead from microphone out of my 12" portable TV to record audio onto cassette tape. Then almost wore out the tape listening to it
Dude, I never thought to notice that Morris wasn’t there. Dude really took a lot of Brand X’s material to the next level. Shame he was the first of the bunch to go. Now we only got Phil and Percy.
Followed them since the release of Unorthodox, still have all the vinyl up to Livestock and Product. Still mind blowing, we were so lucky to have this in our teens, a band at this level in the UK. Pure music and joy in the faces of Goodsall and Collins. Phil can do no wrong, his pop was original too. Bless them all. I remember watching this on OGWT when you had to tune in and no one had a vcr.
Very Camel-esque. I loved that Camel, Brand X, Gentle Giant, Bruford "Jazz Rock" genre that creeped into the prog rock college scene, and Hillage to some extent, around 1980
@@SingularlyNaked to me, Canterbury scene was Gong, Soft Machine, Caravan, Hillage but all with a Jazz influence. More expeermental and less structured than The Brand X Jazz Rock.
@@turnerthemanc Fair enough. I was misremembering Brand X appearing on Pete Frame’s family tree for Soft Machine, but actually Hatfield & The North and National Health is as close as it gets. I’ll listen to any of it, of course!
I had never even heard of this band until a friend gave me the Product CD, I think in 2019. I had no idea Phil Collins was on it until I listened, and thinking the vocals sounded familiar.
Brand X was Phil's way of indulging in his Jazz side. Every time he played with them, it enhanced his playing with Genesis. Same when Tony or Mike did a solo project.
Yeah. He should’ve kept those 13/8 bars rolling. Playing for basement boys in shady trenchcoats is really any drummers dream. For fuck’s sake. Grow up!
@@papapoodo6685 Not brilliant? I would vehemently disagree with you on that. Just the range that Collins delivers on Genesis' "Mama" - from desperate pleas over evil threats to unleashed madness - there's a lot in there. And all in just one song. To be honest, I can only think of few singers who are so versatile. Besides, lots of pop stars would have committed murders for songs like "In the Air Tonight", "I Missed Again", "If Leaving Me Is Easy", "Against All Odds", "I Don't Care Anymore", "Easy Lover", "Don't Lose My Number", "Take Me Home", "Another Day in Paradise" or "I Wish It Would Rain Down". These songs are still high-quality and timeless pop music that can still hold its own against all the Miley Cyrus's, Dua Lipas and Taylor Swifts in the world today.
@@TheAmarok87Only think of a few singers who are so versatile?! Ha! A lot of great singers out there. You obviously have a little crush. Nothing wrong with that...
So Proud to have seen them With Percy and Goodsall and Kenwood 2018 ... The Keswick...Middle of nowhere PA...:)...Goodsall is a very underappreciated ax man...RIP...
Wow! I'd never seen this footage!........To think that Phil was already very established with one of the biggest working bands of the period. He didn't need to go do this career wise. But he really needed to scratch that fusion itch, so he went out and did it, really well !. I still dig those records they did.......and damn he had a crazy left foot!!. side note: I did cartage for Goodsall through the 90s with a band called the Firemerchants. He was always a nice guy, and I hadn't seen him in over 20yrs when I heard he passed. I believe Percy is still around playing?, and he's pushing 80!
Such a great band, this recoding brings back many happy memories of seeing them live in the 1970’s - and I’m sure I would have watched this Whistle Test. Phil totally smashed it along with his equally brilliant colleagues.
Saw Phil Collins and band play this on his first solo tour. I was blown away by it and subsequently found out that it was from Brand X. I was fortunate enough to get to see Brand X play it in 2018 or 2019.
This was up a few weeks ago on someone else's channell, seems to have been taken down. so glad your's is up. brilliant stuff. saw this on tv the night it was first broadcast, wonderfull to see it in in high quality def.
It hasn't been taken down, the dude closed his YT account for some stupid reason, nuking all the OGWT content he ever uploaded from existance. This here is just a crappy AI upscaled version of the video with painfully horrible audio artifacting
One more thing, Phil and Percy met playing for Brian Eno. His albums, ‘another green world’, and ‘before and after science’ are all Phil &Percy In finesse mode. Track after track that continue to impress 45 years later.
BBC sound engineers have always been at the top of their game, there’s a good reason why many people enjoy Peel session versions of some of their fave artists over official releases.
Say what you want about Phil’s career. Sell out? Ok, if yo want to say so… us drummers know he was a monster, a machine, a melodic drummer… just an amazing drummer.
Seeing Phil play with Genesis and especially with Bruford, for the trick of the tail tour was astonishing But seeing him play with Brand, X will never be topped. So far This isthe only known Video of Phil with BrandX. When someday video surfaces of Phil playing nuclear burn, it will be properly worshiped forever after that. Someone out there filmed It. Let’s have it.
PS Phil and Percy met playing for Brian Eno and the albums ‘ Another green world’ and ‘Before and after science’ are all Phil and Percy with track after track a treasure of their skills in finesse mode.
When will Percy Jones finally get his international recognition as an outstanding bassist?
Best Bass Player in UK
I always included him with Stanley and Jaco... the triumvirate. Saw him play at CBGB back in the day...
💯🙏
Indeed a shame! I agree. He’s an original and deserves honour for that.
He already has it with most other bass players.
The negative press Phil gets is staggering.
A gifted, talented musician, an amazing technical drummer.
It stems from the old proggers. To them they wanted Phil and Genesis to keep belting out prog rock tunes forever and saw him as a sell out as he turned pop.
@@G.R.V-v4g And that is exactly correct as i am one of them & i would take all Phils work with Brand X & Genisis as his best playing the rest was music for money. Sad he can't play this way with his back issues as he was one hell of drummer. His talent as an opinion was lost on his commercial efforts even if it did make him famous. That's why he was chastised so much just because it was a talent lost for fame & money. Either way the man is a class act we wanted to hear more of that progressive style.
@@paullevine1813 Phil paid his dues long before he went commercial. I have never understood the stubborn close-mindedness of belly achers when it came to Phil and Genesis. I'm one of the pop song Phil junkies, I suppose, but even so - I grew up woodshedding on progressive music, and the capper is, with Collins -is that he kept prog elements in a great deal of his pop foray. Refer to Easy Lover, Take me Home, etc...with or without Genesis.
@@joelalexander4513 I can listen to all of his music and enjoy it. Haters gonna hate, he did what he wanted and did it well. Can't say the same about the haters.
Also he's a huge ass, his drive to perfection leads him to be very uncharitable to the likes of Chester Thompson
Some of the best drumming ever. Phil is an other worldy musician. We are lucky to have been around in the same universe as him.
so true !
I knew he was good, but I didn't know he was _this_ good! 😊
You won't believe this but i was just having the exact same thought ! :)
LOL
Lol... phil and his drums. Can Rock anything. Listen to his timing on and off the ride and Hi Hat, mixing the snare and Bass...guy was absolutely amazing
Uno de mis discos preferidos de Brand x , y lo compré justo en el año en que salió y lo escuchaba a diario !!! Exelente disco y exelente phil y todo Brand x
True elite levels. This era will never be repeated. The new youth don't have the commitment or stamina
One of he best rock drummers ever
RIP Robin Lumley March 9, 2023. Thank goodness Percy is still alive and making music.
Sad😭
Oh dear that's news. RIP
yes- Percy lives in NYC and regularly performs with his group MJ12
Drumming taken to another level here by Phil the master....
Indeed a master
Very impressive! Same class as Danny Seraphine, plus the vocals. 😊
Here because I’m just now learning about Phil’s secret life as a drumming superhero. Secret to me, anyway. And what an incredible supergroup this is, too.
Dude. Phil was originally a Drummer, a good one too, his voice to me, was the Cherry on top. This guy is and was one of the best musicians on earth
@@tiedupsmurf You speak truth. People love to hate on Phil because.. he made the music he did. Me, I love it, but I get that some folks don't like solo Phil. What those people don't understand is just how insanely great Phil was at what he did. Apologies to the Brand X fans - this isn't necessarily my favorite music (I'm a Genesis guy) - but for anyone who doubts Phil on drums - I direct them to Brand X Phil.
Secret life? You need to hear.phil with Robert.Fripp and John Wetton
Welcome!
To understand: did you not know that Phil Collins is a drummer and before Brand X he played in Genesis and before that in Flaming Youth?
Phil Collins may get some stick, but let's be clear, he was a phenomenal drummer. That he can no longer play is very sad indeed.
Check out branx X nuclear burn..... jesus christ phil
Yes! I was a fan of Brand X. A great band!
Let's not forget all his other achievements. Writing, singing, producing and acting.
@@meecob True, but I think his skills as a drummer often get overlooked. A remarkable musician by any stretch if the imagination.
Yer Damn right about that!!!!
R.I.P. John Goodsall (11/11/21). He was an awesome guitarist
“This song was written by our former drummer. He went to join some disco band. They ended up doing all right.” - John Goodsall
😂
One of the best fusion guitarists ever...
Percy Jones, not a bad bassist, either 😂😂😂
Source of the quote?
@@eren7350 good grief, fact checking this? Does it really matter?
Brilliant…the genius of phil collins with brand x making amazing music
One of the best projects EVER!!! Phil, sure but... the Bass!!!
Wow... Came here off the back of the Drumeo Phil Collins special and that was an awesome little taste of these guys.
I knew he was a cracking drummer from Genisis but he's bloody cooking here.
They get so many comments on Nuclear Burn, how they had no idea how good Phil actually was, that the Brand X fans start to get mad, and say, "there are other members of the band, you know!!"
Same here. Wow awesome.
At this time Phil was the greatest drummer in the universe. Just jaw droppingly sick.
Phil was a force of nature here. That section after Goodsall's solo at 3:05 is top-shelf.
Indeed
Watched this open-mouthed as a budding 16-year-old drummer who'd recently got his first kit. Still playing at 61!
I like Moroccan Roll by Brand X - what a cool album.
That's some fast 9/8. They made it look easy.
Along with Robin Lumley on keys is the great Peter Robinson, a brilliant player in every respect. My band opened for Brand X in Chicago in 1982, Robinson had the first Prophet V I’d ever seen. I asked him how voices it was, he held up 5 fingers…
What was your band ? Where can I listen to it ?
@@TheGhostRhythms Apprentice was my band, Rough Draft the album name. it’s up on RUclips , please check it out, thanks.
My guess is that his band was "Apprentice" that released an album named "Rough Draft " in 1982.
Liquid Tension Experiment from 70/80. Absolutely fantastic!
I never appreciated Phil Collins till I went to see "Song Remains the Same" at an Alamo Drafthouse and instead they showed a Genesis concert film. It was from the prog era of Genesis and Phil had only recently replaced Peter Gabriel. I had no love for Genesis and would've walked out but from the very first minute I was enthralled. His drumming was insane and the songs were great and that familiar Phil Collins' voice. And also Bill Bruford! I'm glad I stuck it out. Even my goth girlfriend liked it and she hated everything!
Phil is a monster dude. Vocals and drums and songwriting.
Genesis: In Concert. From the Trick of the Tail album tour, when they were still VERY proggy. My first exposure to them as well.
@@David-iv6je it opened my brain to a new pathway
@@misisipimike8020 That and a multicolor vinyl bootleg of King Crimson discipline changed how I think of music.
I saw this live on TV. I ran a lead from microphone out of my 12" portable TV to record audio onto cassette tape. Then almost wore out the tape listening to it
For those who like this kind of thing, this is the kind of thing they like.
That’s like something Oogway would say!
Thanks, Kamala!
Indeed...🩵💙🩶
@@joelalexander4513 read it a couple more times and you might understand.
@@joelalexander4513 I understand your "joke". Do YOU?
P.S. A joke is supposed to be funny. Just saying.
If Morris Pert was there, the room would've exploded out of awesomeness.
Dude, I never thought to notice that Morris wasn’t there. Dude really took a lot of Brand X’s material to the next level. Shame he was the first of the bunch to go. Now we only got Phil and Percy.
@@A_Saucerful_of_Secrets Morris was touring with Mike Oldfield at that time.
I was lucky enough as an excited 16 year old to see Phil with both Brand X and Genesis on the same day at the 'Midsummers Night Dream at Knebworth.
It seems that yoUtUBE doesn't like giving links out! I have the cd's/dvd of this concert....
I mean the Genesis concert, not the Brand X one!
Me too!!
Saw the same in Saarbrücken, Brand X, Zappa, Genesis, Mc Laughlin, 10 Years Later, and others. Quite an experience.
Followed them since the release of Unorthodox, still have all the vinyl up to Livestock and Product. Still mind blowing, we were so lucky to have this in our teens, a band at this level in the UK. Pure music and joy in the faces of Goodsall and Collins. Phil can do no wrong, his pop was original too. Bless them all. I remember watching this on OGWT when you had to tune in and no one had a vcr.
I know it's not Phil on drums but Black Moon off Masques is still one of my all time favourite toons ever!!!
We seem to share that! :)
To me Phil Collins was on the same level as Neil Peart but nobody wants to admit that
Neil Peart worshipped Phil as a drummer.
100% correct
Far more groove and feel than NP .. NP just doesn't have that feeling and as good as he was for me it's not in the same ball park..
Very Camel-esque. I loved that Camel, Brand X, Gentle Giant, Bruford "Jazz Rock" genre that creeped into the prog rock college scene, and Hillage to some extent, around 1980
I think of it as Canterbury rock, since that’s where so many of them came from. So much great stuff!
@@SingularlyNaked to me, Canterbury scene was Gong, Soft Machine, Caravan, Hillage but all with a Jazz influence. More expeermental and less structured than The Brand X Jazz Rock.
@@turnerthemanc Fair enough. I was misremembering Brand X appearing on Pete Frame’s family tree for Soft Machine, but actually Hatfield & The North and National Health is as close as it gets. I’ll listen to any of it, of course!
Totally raindances vibes
Phil the amazing Collins, appeared in so many remarkable guises. And the rest of the band, too, hats off to you all. Ciao! 😊😊
I had never even heard of this band until a friend gave me the Product CD, I think in 2019. I had no idea Phil Collins was on it until I listened, and thinking the vocals sounded familiar.
Philip in God mode.
Brand X was Phil's way of indulging in his Jazz side. Every time he played with them, it enhanced his playing with Genesis. Same when Tony or Mike did a solo project.
Check out Phil's drumming on Steve Hackett's "Ace of Wands", from Voyage of the Acolyte.
3:32....wow...killer on drums!
One of the best bands ever!!!
Absolutely my favourite Brand X tune!
Love Brand X! The first time I heard Nuclear Burn I flipped!
That decade was amazing for music and musicians. What a creative time.
Phil Collins, awesome drummer/percussionist, The metoporphis from this to his 80's "Blah" is frightening, how did this happen 🫣
Money.
Yeah. He should’ve kept those 13/8 bars rolling. Playing for basement boys in shady trenchcoats is really any drummers dream. For fuck’s sake. Grow up!
😮😮😮Phil sounding like Yusef Dayes ❤️🔥🙏👍
Fantastic👍👍👏👏🙌🙌🙌
Love his drumming so much more than his singing! Excellent!
He is also brilliant vocalist.
Not bad....not brilliant...and his commercial stuff is pretty cringy...imo. @@ivanyiattila3547
@@papapoodo6685 Not brilliant? I would vehemently disagree with you on that. Just the range that Collins delivers on Genesis' "Mama" - from desperate pleas over evil threats to unleashed madness - there's a lot in there. And all in just one song. To be honest, I can only think of few singers who are so versatile.
Besides, lots of pop stars would have committed murders for songs like "In the Air Tonight", "I Missed Again", "If Leaving Me Is Easy", "Against All Odds", "I Don't Care Anymore", "Easy Lover", "Don't Lose My Number", "Take Me Home", "Another Day in Paradise" or "I Wish It Would Rain Down". These songs are still high-quality and timeless pop music that can still hold its own against all the Miley Cyrus's, Dua Lipas and Taylor Swifts in the world today.
@@TheAmarok87Only think of a few singers who are so versatile?! Ha! A lot of great singers out there. You obviously have a little crush. Nothing wrong with that...
@@papapoodo6685 Then name ten?
Crush? I've never needed something like that before.
I loved watching and listening to John Goodsall play, IMO a fantastic player who was at home in many genres. RIP John you brought me so much pleasure.
Great group !
Love me some Brand X. Amazing musicians who created some great songs. Goodsall is so underrated and unappreciated.
So Proud to have seen them With Percy and Goodsall and Kenwood 2018 ... The Keswick...Middle of nowhere PA...:)...Goodsall is a very underappreciated ax man...RIP...
Gold. Phil Collins was a great drummer. Watcher of the Skies.
Wow! I'd never seen this footage!........To think that Phil was already very established with one of the biggest working bands of the period. He didn't need to go do this career wise. But he really needed to scratch that fusion itch, so he went out and did it, really well !. I still dig those records they did.......and damn he had a crazy left foot!!.
side note: I did cartage for Goodsall through the 90s with a band called the Firemerchants. He was always a nice guy, and I hadn't seen him in over 20yrs when I heard he passed.
I believe Percy is still around playing?, and he's pushing 80!
Phil is one of the best
Phenomenal drummer ! the ONE !
Saw Phil do this on his first solo tour
OMG any other Brand x videos with Phil Collins???? Amazing stuff
Not one this is it
No
Awesome … I only recently learned of this band
Finally, a clear version of the video!
Percy and his first Wal….❤❤❤❤
Yes I thought it was very Walmlike
Such a great band, this recoding brings back many happy memories of seeing them live in the 1970’s - and I’m sure I would have watched this Whistle Test. Phil totally smashed it along with his equally brilliant colleagues.
mindblowing 🤯
WOW!! I didn't know that Phil had it in him to play lie that. Prodigious work!
Always liked his drumming style.
DAMN.........
!!!
Молодость берет свое, супер.
Saw Phil Collins and band play this on his first solo tour. I was blown away by it and subsequently found out that it was from Brand X. I was fortunate enough to get to see Brand X play it in 2018 or 2019.
Love from Romania! ❤
still love it!!
Dios, que virtuosismo, que epoca tan gloriosa
This was up a few weeks ago on someone else's channell, seems to have been taken down. so glad your's is up. brilliant stuff. saw this on tv the night it was first broadcast, wonderfull to see it in in high quality def.
It hasn't been taken down, the dude closed his YT account for some stupid reason, nuking all the OGWT content he ever uploaded from existance. This here is just a crappy AI upscaled version of the video with painfully horrible audio artifacting
@@Knaeckebrotsaegewere did the original guy even get this high quality version from?
,,..also as epic === WIND and Wuthring.......,,,so good,...
bloody hell. those were the days
I saw Brand X at The Manor Ballroom in Ipswich early/mid 70's & all I can remember is the Percy Jones wasn't there?
What a class act they were
One more thing, Phil and Percy met playing for Brian Eno. His albums, ‘another green world’, and ‘before and after science’ are all Phil &Percy In finesse mode. Track after track that continue to impress 45 years later.
Goodsall cranking it fiercely and Jones looking like coming out of the eggshell:-) Awesome footage!
OGWT is incredible
Quite amazing!!it sounds like soft machine at the end of théorie carrer in 1974-1976
Astounding
Thanks for posting this.
My god! For a generally stuffy BBC..The amazing visuals and audio are first rate ,top notch for this jaw dropping musical performance!
This was par for the course for the BBC back then - all in a day's work.
BBC sound engineers have always been at the top of their game, there’s a good reason why many people enjoy Peel session versions of some of their fave artists over official releases.
Old Grey Whistle Test was an amazing programme. BBC were much more versatile back in the day. I watched the show every week.
Awesome 😎
Love it!
Not full version but only on my channels, you can find full drum only versions :) and brand x too
Brilliant
Lumley's key solo sounds like something not misplaced in "Watcher of the Skies."
I saw this band at the Roxy on Sunset the same year. Great show!
Phil was a great ambassador for Premier drums. What a dude
Phil maestro like the other guys here
British bassists and their bloody Wals!
Cool stuff
I should have known early on when my sister played me Foxtrot when it came out.
Didn't get it for some time, then I did.
@3:30 it sounds JUST LIKE A GENESIS TUNE!!
I saw this show at the roxy in los angeles.
Say what you want about Phil’s career. Sell out? Ok, if yo want to say so… us drummers know he was a monster, a machine, a melodic drummer… just an amazing drummer.
I miss Old Grey Whistle Test
A short but sweet musical adventure
Percy is one of my all time favorite bass players.
mine too,
Brian Eno sure loved PercyJones he’s on early Eno records
Great
When Phil did this song on his first solo tour, it seemed very different-and longer?
Burning!
Seeing Phil play with Genesis and especially with Bruford, for the trick of the tail tour was astonishing But seeing him play with Brand, X will never be topped. So far This isthe only known Video of Phil with BrandX. When someday video surfaces of Phil playing nuclear burn, it will be properly worshiped forever after that. Someone out there filmed It. Let’s have it.
PS Phil and Percy met playing for Brian Eno and the albums ‘ Another green world’ and ‘Before and after science’ are all Phil and Percy with track after track a treasure of their skills in finesse mode.
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MindBlown.
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