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  • Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024

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  • @Scotopiax
    @Scotopiax 9 дней назад +2

    By far the best reaction video about this song! Congratulations and thanks for sharing your expertise with us.🧿

  • @TheAlhfacair
    @TheAlhfacair Год назад +187

    Even though i don't understand what she is singing about, that power and sorrow in her voice makes me think of what she s begging or pleading for; and surprisingly the word "ask" means love in Turkish :) What she did with her soft, even i want to say "with her giving up voice", at the end of the song was almost theatrical in my opinion. I mean i felt like she was giving up on love she was singing about. That was so emotional if i understand it correctly. Made my eyes wet and gave me goosebumps maybe i am too emotional i dunno man but those were what i felt about the song. This must be how music can be universal when you use it exceptionally. And Scott, my man thanks again for this experience. It was definetely different and felt so good, thank you

    • @gurkanarslan2001
      @gurkanarslan2001 Год назад +5

      I enjoyed reading this

    • @ycchne
      @ycchne Год назад +11

      she begs love to be involve in her life

    • @hulyaince6912
      @hulyaince6912 Год назад +1

      Love to come back into her life.

    • @bggakademi
      @bggakademi Год назад

      Hislerin doğru. Notalarin tercümesini güzel yapmışsın. ❤

    • @tolgagenc8214
      @tolgagenc8214 13 дней назад +1

      Love, run away from my magic
      Love, come back from the dead
      Love, for some reason
      Come, enter my world

      Love, come back from the dead
      Pass through my body,
      Enter my world

      Love, come back from the dead
      Pass through my body,

  • @Lady__Galadriel
    @Lady__Galadriel Год назад +45

    She is 58 year old today! I just wanted to mentioned that. Plus she studied opera in the conservatory 😊

  • @johnmaynardkeynes2079
    @johnmaynardkeynes2079 Год назад +59

    Both Sebnem Ferah and Sertab Erener were the students and the back vocal of Sezen Aksu. The Real Queen is still Sezen Aksu but she is very old now.
    Sebnem Ferah-Istanbul Concert 2007 is the top of her career. And also Sertab Erener sang Sebnem's song "Yagmurlar".
    And a one song is very special for all three of them "Sezen Aksu, Sebnem Ferah and Sertab Erener". The name of the song is "Masum Değiliz".
    If you examine and analyze the interpretations of Masum Degiliz of all three singers in one video, your analysis may be a first on platforms such as RUclips, and you will also have prepared a very special video for your Turkish audience.

    • @ScottLeVocalCoach
      @ScottLeVocalCoach  Год назад +9

      Thank you John. Let me see what I can do. Just heard Masum Değiliz and it's a beautiful song :)

    • @johnmaynardkeynes2079
      @johnmaynardkeynes2079 Год назад +1

      @@ScottLeVocalCoach u're welcome, Masum Degiliz has another name "Eller Gunahkar". if u google it, probablu u ll see Eller Gunahkar also. Both of re the same song.

  • @kelvinclein9972
    @kelvinclein9972 5 месяцев назад +4

    Sertap Erener... Eurovision song contest 1st 2002. For Turkey

  • @Monat_Lakshmi
    @Monat_Lakshmi Год назад +5

    This performance of Sertab's should be shown in all music schools in the world.She is a legendary artist.

  • @cecilliac843
    @cecilliac843 Год назад +35

    No, believe that she isn’t breathless or so tired because of high notes at the end… She does it intentionally for a theatratical effect.😊I listened her live at her concert, such a strong diafragma 🎵

  • @irregularm8260
    @irregularm8260 Год назад +9

    I have watched more than 15 different reaction videos to this song of Sertab..This was not only the longest one but also informative one as you've explained in details nicely. Congragulations body !! 👏👏

    • @ScottLeVocalCoach
      @ScottLeVocalCoach  Год назад

      @irregularm8260 That means the world. Thank you for your kind words. 🙂❤

  • @ozeryiter2613
    @ozeryiter2613 Год назад +7

    O bir de sabah programiydi canlı hatirliyorum sesi bile acilmamisti daha harika bir ses...sertab erener....

  • @KemalS-cn1hd
    @KemalS-cn1hd Год назад +3

    It is very pleasant to hear such comments from a real voice teacher. Everyone has a reaction channel, but they do nothing but shake their heads. It's nice to hear your informative comments. Greetings from Turkey!

  • @ilhansahin2223
    @ilhansahin2223 Год назад +6

    And she did all that while sitting

  • @Marilyn006
    @Marilyn006 Год назад +11

    Please reaction Şebnem Ferah - Delgeç (10 Mart 2007 İstanbul Konseri) Şebnem is our rock queen. this performance is great.

  • @misoyozi
    @misoyozi Год назад +17

    Dude, your analysis is very good, Turkish singers I would love you to continue to react. Mor ve ötesi- Bir derdim var would you react to the symphonic piece?

  • @yakamozezgiler
    @yakamozezgiler Год назад +17

    Can we appriciate how you explain every second of the music video in terms of vocal termology? I learnt a bunch of different vocabulary now thanks to you, I'd also like to mention I've been watching vocal analysis of this particular Sertab Erener's perfomance, Thus, thank you so much! Keep up your amazing work.

    • @ScottLeVocalCoach
      @ScottLeVocalCoach  Год назад +2

      Thank you for your kind words yakamoz ezgiler. I love hearing feedback like yours because that is my intention for this channel. For all of us to tune in, listen and appreciate the artist because they’ve invested so much of their life in their voice and artistry. I’ll continue to share what my ears hear 😻 take care for now ❤️

  • @celestialcolosseum
    @celestialcolosseum Год назад +18

    Best explanations i've ever seen! Thanks for separating all the techniques and small details into their own topic and explaining them clearly, it really helps. Hoping for more Turkish artists, you might like Mor ve Ötesi, Turkey shines with their rock bands and singers!

    • @ScottLeVocalCoach
      @ScottLeVocalCoach  Год назад +4

      Thanks Celestial Colosseum! Been getting into the rock genre lately so it's been really great hearing these Turkish artists rocking it out!

    • @celestialcolosseum
      @celestialcolosseum Год назад

      @@ScottLeVocalCoach Hope you enjoy the rock/metal journey! Cheers from Turkey

    • @destinylyrics8838
      @destinylyrics8838 Год назад

      @@ScottLeVocalCoach (Şebnem Ferah & Hayko Cepkin & Badem & TNK & Aylin Aslım - Özgürce Yaşa)
      I suggest you listen and analyze this masterpiece, sung by many rock singers. Thank you very much for your detailed educational analysis.

  • @Kedimiagul
    @Kedimiagul Год назад +4

    Thank you for the detailed review. Turkish is an agglutinative language. Therefore, syllables are added to the end of words and each syllable changes the direction of the word surprisingly. Therefore, she keeps the first letter of the syllable and the words affect and surprise the listener more.
    Example : Dünya (world) Dünyama(to my world)

    • @ScottLeVocalCoach
      @ScottLeVocalCoach  Год назад +1

      Thank you for that Seyma Oguz. I love learning new things about different languages. 😍

  • @brentharris8428
    @brentharris8428 Год назад +17

    Great analysis and breakdown throughout the transitions. Her Larynx is very strong. Great voice and breath control. Nice guitar lead.

  • @alial5836
    @alial5836 Год назад +11

    Great analise and great reaction, I love this song.

  • @erenvanced3347
    @erenvanced3347 Год назад +17

    It was a very valuable analysis, thank you. I would love for you to analyze the following performance: Şebnem Ferah "Delgeç" (10 March 2007 Istanbul concert)

  • @Karen-eo5yx
    @Karen-eo5yx Год назад +4

    awesome vocals and priceless reaction. thank you

  • @ErsenAsper
    @ErsenAsper Год назад +3

    Nice reaction. Sertab Erener started her music career with opera education. But then she decided to sing pop music and now i think shes a wonderful singer.

    • @ScottLeVocalCoach
      @ScottLeVocalCoach  Год назад

      No wonder she has that beautiful mix in her sound :D Thank you Ersen!

    • @yorumustasi
      @yorumustasi Год назад +1

      @@ScottLeVocalCoach I am so happy that you share with us this beautiful video. Your Analyse, Illustration, the Details, very good job and much work, very well done. The only thing i don’t like is, that you scream without warning, it was scary.
      I recommend you, Cem Adrian - Summer Time
      I am shure you will love it.

  • @ugurbrm
    @ugurbrm Год назад +3

    Sebnem ferah / ben şarkımı söylerken bostancı live performance reaction pls ♥️

  • @skyblader
    @skyblader Год назад +2

    Sir, I've been listening and enjoying this song for many years. This analyses is amazing. so many details I had never realized before. Thank you.

    • @ScottLeVocalCoach
      @ScottLeVocalCoach  Год назад +1

      Thank you Eren. Thank you for watching and for learning with me 😍

  • @sinand.2638
    @sinand.2638 Год назад +3

    Very professional examination. Love it! Thanks

  • @bulent-pl6vu
    @bulent-pl6vu Год назад

    Sertab❤❤❤❤❤

  • @neslinbaban1065
    @neslinbaban1065 Год назад +2

    Dear Scott, I am really impressed with your commitment to teaching the common man the finer points of vocal analysis. I have learned a lot, thank you for that and please keep it up!

  • @TheFuatti
    @TheFuatti Год назад +4

    As always great work Scott thank you.

    • @ScottLeVocalCoach
      @ScottLeVocalCoach  Год назад +1

      Thanks a lot Fuat. Thanks for dropping by to watch :D

    • @TheFuatti
      @TheFuatti Год назад

      @@ScottLeVocalCoach you better do one on her other acoustic song Vur Yuregim you gonna love that one too :D

  • @NerdGlassGamingPA
    @NerdGlassGamingPA 6 месяцев назад

    Sir, you have done your homework perfectly, it shows ( pronouncing her name , song name perfectly etc.) and I appreciate it a lot ❤

  • @ozgedurukan7760
    @ozgedurukan7760 Год назад +5

    Very nice reaction. I strongly recommend Sebnem Ferah from 2007 concert. Sil bastan is most populer and delgec is strongest one. Thank you:)

    • @ScottLeVocalCoach
      @ScottLeVocalCoach  Год назад +1

      Thank you Ozge. I'm onto Sebnem Ferah! She'll be on the channel before Christmas! :D

  • @destinylyrics8838
    @destinylyrics8838 Год назад +8

    Şebnem Ferah - Oyunun Sonu (10 March 2007 İstanbul Concert)
    Could you please do a vocal analysis of this strong rock female singer with a soprano voice? In Turkey, we call her the queen of rock. She is very talented and she hits high notes in this song, I think you will love her, thanks in advance. (Arkadaşlar görmesi için beğenir misiniz rica etsem?)

    • @ScottLeVocalCoach
      @ScottLeVocalCoach  Год назад

      Hi Destiny! I will definitely react to Şebnem Ferah. I'm recovering from a really bad flu but the video should be up before Christmas time :)

    • @destinylyrics8838
      @destinylyrics8838 Год назад

      @@ScottLeVocalCoach Hope you get well soon, it means you will give us a wonderful Christmas gift, thank you very much

  • @severussnape4872
    @severussnape4872 Год назад +5

    Şebnem Ferah Delgeç 10 march 2007 concert please?

  • @midnight3974
    @midnight3974 10 месяцев назад +1

    2:33. This is a melisma technic

  • @Hypatia415bc
    @Hypatia415bc 6 месяцев назад

    So informative, thank you!

  • @kadrigungor2089
    @kadrigungor2089 6 месяцев назад

    👍👏🏻🇹🇷Bu videonunda defalarca reaksiyonunu izledim yine sen harika yorumlamışsın. 11:20 de ki yorumunu özellikle bekledim ve sen kaçırmadın evet doğruydu. 👍

  • @sercan5092
    @sercan5092 Год назад

    Thankj you for reacting

  • @linordqvist6134
    @linordqvist6134 Год назад +1

    You should reacting to her singing vur yuregim or olsun.

  • @sidelyaderin8331
    @sidelyaderin8331 Год назад

    she's the eurovision winner of 2003.

  • @Fahrenayt06
    @Fahrenayt06 Год назад

    Sertap is one of the few voices in the world. He is an educated and super voice for me.

  • @mikailarslan3965
    @mikailarslan3965 Год назад +1

    First of all i am really happy to see you take the comments seriously. And also I think it's very valuable for me to watch such analysis videos like this one . Because without the deeper analysis i am just listening but im not hearing the details.Thank you for making me realize ! And of course im so proud of we have an artist like Sertap Erener :)

    • @ScottLeVocalCoach
      @ScottLeVocalCoach  Год назад +1

      That means the world to me. Thank you for watching and learning with me Mikail. Hope to see you back here soon :)

  • @Köktürkbala
    @Köktürkbala Год назад +2

    Türkçeyi çok tatlı konuşuyorsun ❤️ teşekkürler emeğin için 👍 Sertap tanıdığım en güçlü şarkıcılar dan biri. Ama bizim Yıldız Tilbe de önden giden muhteşem seslerden biri. Ama tarzı değişik 😊

  • @fatihguzayaltndal9348
    @fatihguzayaltndal9348 11 месяцев назад

    7:44 💛🧡🥰😍🤗☺️🙂💛🧡

  • @yucelarts
    @yucelarts Год назад

    Thanks Bro.
    You made us happy by considering our comments.

  • @onurt3461
    @onurt3461 Год назад

    Thanks 🙏

  • @canaakman385
    @canaakman385 Год назад

    Great reaction.❤️

  • @yasandty7926
    @yasandty7926 Год назад

    I’m learning from you. GreT informative reaction. Queen Sertap.

    • @ScottLeVocalCoach
      @ScottLeVocalCoach  Год назад

      I'm so happy to hear that. Thank you for watching YAS and TY :D

  • @ua36ua
    @ua36ua Год назад

    Nice reaction. Thank you.
    Sebnem Ferah “ Ben şarkımı söylerken “ live concert 2007 reaction please.

  • @n.erd.
    @n.erd. Год назад +1

    Sezen Aksu - Levent Yüksel -Aşkın Nur Yengi -Sertap Erener -I recommend you to listen to the 2010 Kral Pop Music Awards.
    Note: Aşkın, Levent and Sertap are students of Sezen Aksu.

  • @ufukc.57
    @ufukc.57 11 месяцев назад

  • @saphienss
    @saphienss 10 месяцев назад

    Could you analyse this song from her, too? Sertab Erener - Bahcede (Acoustic)

  • @gurkanarslan2001
    @gurkanarslan2001 Год назад +1

    Hello Scott. I bothered myself and felt responsible to comment instead of just watching it. I love your reaction and analyses. I watch and follow dozen of reaction channels but yours is already different than the others. Love the editing and taking all details seriously is what impressed me so much. Well done! This was the first video I watched on your channel so Idk if you already reacted to Shakira or Sebnem Ferah (the song Delgec) if not please react to that. I would love to follow and subscribe!

    • @ScottLeVocalCoach
      @ScottLeVocalCoach  Год назад +1

      Hi Gürkan Arslan. That made my day! Thank you for watching and supporting the channel. I'll be releasing a reaction video of another Sebnem Ferah song soon but will definitely check out Delgec. Take care :D

    • @gurkanarslan2001
      @gurkanarslan2001 Год назад

      @@ScottLeVocalCoach you are so sweet! Thank you for your answer.

  • @beyzaa5927
    @beyzaa5927 Год назад

    I love the violin part of song 8:18

  • @tikidead1813
    @tikidead1813 Год назад +2

    Sertab sang that song years ago when she was young. " ruclips.net/video/uXoxetDqfMQ/видео.html " in this video she sings way more high and powerful with her bright and powerful voice. I'm sure you wont regret after watch :)

  • @salihhakanersoy3789
    @salihhakanersoy3789 Год назад

    teşekkürler...

  • @Doutrus
    @Doutrus Год назад

    Şebnem Ferah / Çakıl Taşları / İstanbul live concert 2007

  • @avitod1555
    @avitod1555 Год назад

    You are absolutely oversweet. 😁 It's not "don ölümden" "don" has two different meanings. 1st is "freeze" and the 2nd is "underpant" . Right writing has to be "dön ölümden" and it means "return from the death"
    Awesome reaction again. Happy to invent your channel. Greetings from Istanbul.😘

  • @4comment
    @4comment Год назад

    Pls analyse sertab erener-olsun

  • @mistbornn
    @mistbornn Год назад

    You should listen Zara-Avşar Elleri, i think you like her voice so much ☺️

  • @altankosemen
    @altankosemen Год назад

    tbrk

  • @szgn0
    @szgn0 Год назад

    7:54 don means freeze dön means return and thats what she said just wanted to let u know great work keep going

    • @ScottLeVocalCoach
      @ScottLeVocalCoach  Год назад

      Thank you szgn. Really appreciate your feedback. Any chance to improve my videos for you guys, I'll happily receive them ☺

  • @cagrigaranli
    @cagrigaranli Год назад

    you should do Sultan-i Yegah from Ozge FİSKİN!! It is exactly Turkish song I never sing it

  • @marusyah
    @marusyah Год назад +1

    Alim Qasımov, Hüsnü Şenlendirici- A Trace of Grace
    👆This performans is MASTERPİECE. Please experience..

  •  Год назад

    vay babayın kemüğüne o nasıl analiz öyle .. her seyı tahlıl ettı herıf

  • @ozunkeskin2380
    @ozunkeskin2380 Год назад +1

    You really but really should react Teoman. His voice is just so rich calming charming and overall very good tone and color. For me personally
    , hes voice is special. You really should look at him songs. Wont regret. You can start with
    Teoman - Iki yabanci (ft Sebnem Ferah)

    • @ScottLeVocalCoach
      @ScottLeVocalCoach  Год назад +1

      Thank you Özün :) I will have a listen to Teoman

    • @ozunkeskin2380
      @ozunkeskin2380 Год назад

      @@ScottLeVocalCoach btw, if you REALLY want to get impressed, these are the two songs. These three songs he kind of show off.
      Istanbul’da
      Coban Yildizi
      Paramparca
      Just gave you and idea tho, if you will listen Teoman and want to focus on the famous songs, go for the Paramparca. That one is very very famous in Turkey.

    • @ozunkeskin2380
      @ozunkeskin2380 Год назад

      @@ScottLeVocalCoach cheers, nice video tho i subs

  • @n.erd.
    @n.erd. Год назад +1

    You should also listen to great artists such as Cem Karaca, Barış Manço, Erkin Koray, Sezen Aksu, Ajda Pekkan.

  • @besym
    @besym 8 месяцев назад

    Dude you know what you are doing

    • @ScottLeVocalCoach
      @ScottLeVocalCoach  6 месяцев назад

      Haha thank you. I’m still learning. And I’ll keep sharing new things I learn with everyone here ❤️

  • @karagun5547
    @karagun5547 Год назад

    Yes Yes, ŞEBNEM Ferah reaction please bro.

  • @nevevasyl3090
    @nevevasyl3090 Год назад

    eivor trollabundin live reaction please!!

  • @ozlemusta8530
    @ozlemusta8530 Год назад

    Hi Mr. Scott,
    please, Can you do this reaction?
    Emre Sertkaya - Minnet Eylemem.
    You'll love his voice so much, it's so different

    • @ScottLeVocalCoach
      @ScottLeVocalCoach  Год назад +1

      Hi Ozlem. I just watched his performance. What a voice! It'll be my honour to react and analyse his voice! He does something similar to another singer from Tunisia so I'm really excited! :D

    • @ozlemusta8530
      @ozlemusta8530 Год назад

      @@ScottLeVocalCoach I'm so glad. Thank you

  • @brentharris8428
    @brentharris8428 Год назад

    Special requests - Aretha Franklin, Luciano Pavarotti and because I am a Kiwi - Dame Kiri Te Kanawa

  • @sarperaktas
    @sarperaktas Год назад

    I really like your analysis and comments. Can you please listen An Epic Symphony & Hayko Cepkin - Bertaraf Et?

  • @sercan5092
    @sercan5092 Год назад

    These songs are very precious to me. I want you to take a look at them all. All Turkish live songs. Thank you from now.
    Nazlıcan Kübra - Yakamoz (Live)
    Redd - Şebnem Ferah / Her Neyse
    Merve Özbey - Tükeneceğiz | Akustik
    Melek Mosso - Keklik Gibi | Kezeyin Oğlu Volakn
    Karsu - Siyah live at'De Nieuwe Maan'

  • @serpilerturk1324
    @serpilerturk1324 Год назад

    şebnem ferah, from istanbul live concert, "Delgeç" pls..and "Cem Adrian- Summertime" live performance

    • @ScottLeVocalCoach
      @ScottLeVocalCoach  Год назад

      Hi Serpil, I will record Şebnem Ferah's song Ben Şarkımı Söylerken tomorrow so it should be out by Sunday or Monday :). And check out my analysis of Cem Adrian's Summertime. I hope you enjoy it :)

    • @serpilerturk1324
      @serpilerturk1324 Год назад

      @@ScottLeVocalCoach 🙏

    • @johnmaynardkeynes2079
      @johnmaynardkeynes2079 Год назад

      @@ScottLeVocalCoach2007 Istanbul Concert is the best one in terms of her performance.

  • @farhanbabayev327
    @farhanbabayev327 Год назад

    Can Gox -Haydar Haydar (acustic) React this video please.It’s Very good bro

  • @King-dn3rq
    @King-dn3rq Год назад

  • @Ahmet-xe8is
    @Ahmet-xe8is Год назад

    Şebnem Ferah: Ben Şarkımı Söylerken listen pls. (2007 concert)

  • @metinyavas5982
    @metinyavas5982 Год назад

    Turkish Music , Melek Mosso - Vursalar Ölemem (cover) Reaction pls...

    • @ScottLeVocalCoach
      @ScottLeVocalCoach  Год назад +1

      I love how she can play the flute as well! So talented! Thanks Metin Yavaş!

  • @bonqz.
    @bonqz. Год назад

    +

  • @KiRPi_
    @KiRPi_ Год назад

    Emre Setkaya "minnet eylemem" pls

  • @mavibalon9560
    @mavibalon9560 Год назад

    Şanışer.susamam.plaese.

    • @ScottLeVocalCoach
      @ScottLeVocalCoach  Год назад

      Şanışer is a vibe! I would love to react to him but I don't really specialise in rap music or understand that genre on a deep level to analyse it. So I won't be able to share anything of value to you all. But he is so talented! He's giving me so much energie today haha! Thanks Mavi!

  • @bekirkerimciliz3124
    @bekirkerimciliz3124 Год назад +3

    If yo do any Şebnem Ferah reactions please do it right and react to her 2007 Harbiye Concert which is live. Please do not react to video clips.

    • @ArAdiAzZz
      @ArAdiAzZz Год назад

      Bostancı olacak o harbiye değil

    • @bekirkerimciliz3124
      @bekirkerimciliz3124 Год назад

      Ben harbiye diye biliyordum baktım şimdi bostancıymış kardeş eyvallah.

  • @canbonapartee
    @canbonapartee Год назад

    Cem adrian / Olten flarmoni - öf öf live

  • @selenayaydin
    @selenayaydin Год назад

    ŞEBNEM FERAH
    PLS

  • @davidcochran6291
    @davidcochran6291 Год назад +1

    The same way that some people were not born to be connoisseurs of food and drink, some people just have no feel for all music. Their are parts of this performance that I just can't warm up to. Just like people who will rave about a food dish with all sorts of spices and textures in the foods they eat I am not one them. There is just something about her voice that doesn't sit right in my brain. I hear her technique, and control and how puts things together but it's not for me. So I am sorry but it's not you , it's me.

    • @ScottLeVocalCoach
      @ScottLeVocalCoach  Год назад +3

      Hey David. I recently read a book called "This is what it sounds like" by Susan Rogers and Ogi Ogas. And they said that music is so intimate and personal that we all have different listner profiles. We all live on different musical streets. So it's definitely okay that Sertab didn't match your sweet spot. If you were to put heavy metal music in front of me, that wouldn't be my first choice because I grew up listening to pop, soul, blues and RnB. It also did take a few years for me to become familiar with and enjoy jazz music, and also the classical sounds of opera and music theatre. I also found the rock vocals quite unpleasant when I was younger and I found myself resistant to them all at first.
      But now I really respect those genres and the artists who sing them because to master those sounds and the song genre conventions is a very hard thing to accomplish! I guess it does take time, mental effort and energy to sit with different/new artists and let their voice and artistry sink in right? Especially on Spotify, I find myself scrolling through new artists to search for sentimental ballads only because they feel like home to me.
      Thank you for sharing your thoughts David. I'm sure many people feel the same too because I definitely did and sometimes, still do :)

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