I don't know for sure. Paramount Petroleum (where the train came from) makes asphalt products. I assume they receive tank cars loaded with raw materials and so this train would have empties only. If Paramount does ship product via rail then these would be filled with some sort of asphalt product.
SeattleRailFan It's most likely Bachen Crude from North Dakota heading up to the oil refinery at Cherry Point. It is a highly volatile substance and has an established track record of exploding in the event of derailment. These "Bomb Trains" pose a real threat to the communities they travel through.
Mit Cadden Not in this case. Crude from the Bakken formation travels in unit trains of 100+ cars. The Goldbar Turn takes empties tank cars south from Everett to Paramount Petroluem. They make asphalt. The loaded cars are them taken north by the Goldbar Turn to Everett for distribution to other locales. OIl trains are not "bomb trains" or any more hazardous than other hazmat loads a railroad carries. Given how many train derailments happen per car-mile, and knowing how many car-miles are oil trains, you can figure about 6 oil train derailments per year. That's about what we are getting lately. Only reason you hear about them is because after the Lac-Megantic incident, the press is in a tizzy and reports every little issue with an oil train. Lac-Megantic was an anomaly caused by multiple human failures. It can't happen here because the US requires a crew to be onboard a parked train or to be in sight of a yard supervisor at all times. Don't forget there's 20 gallons of gasoline in your car in your garage that could blow up at any minute and kill you! Run for your lives! Unless you use no petroleum at all (gas in your car, diesel for the farmer's tractors that produce your organic food, plastic in your iPhone, etc) then be glad we are developing homegrown sources of oil. Once the Middle East conflicts go region-wide and affect the oil fields, local oil will be all we have.
they need too clean up that beach some get rid of the logs put in some new gravel or sand the news said that you guys have had 17 days in a row with rain lol looks like a good place too fish when its warm
Actually this winter has been relatively dry. 17 consecutive days of rain in Seattle? Only out-of-towners or tourists would complain. Us native Seattlites are used to it pouring rain every day from October to May!
Nice to see all the 'local' action as well while waiting for the train . . .
Beautiful area btw! Thanks.
Very cute video Greetings!
Enjoyed it! Do you know what was in the tank cars? Thanks.
I don't know for sure. Paramount Petroleum (where the train came from) makes asphalt products. I assume they receive tank cars loaded with raw materials and so this train would have empties only. If Paramount does ship product via rail then these would be filled with some sort of asphalt product.
SeattleRailFan It's most likely Bachen Crude from North Dakota heading up to the oil refinery at Cherry Point. It is a highly volatile substance and has an established track record of exploding in the event of derailment. These "Bomb Trains" pose a real threat to the communities they travel through.
Mit Cadden Not in this case. Crude from the Bakken formation travels in unit trains of 100+ cars.
The Goldbar Turn takes empties tank cars south from Everett to Paramount Petroluem. They make asphalt. The loaded cars are them taken north by the Goldbar Turn to Everett for distribution to other locales.
OIl trains are not "bomb trains" or any more hazardous than other hazmat loads a railroad carries. Given how many train derailments happen per car-mile, and knowing how many car-miles are oil trains, you can figure about 6 oil train derailments per year. That's about what we are getting lately. Only reason you hear about them is because after the Lac-Megantic incident, the press is in a tizzy and reports every little issue with an oil train.
Lac-Megantic was an anomaly caused by multiple human failures. It can't happen here because the US requires a crew to be onboard a parked train or to be in sight of a yard supervisor at all times.
Don't forget there's 20 gallons of gasoline in your car in your garage that could blow up at any minute and kill you! Run for your lives! Unless you use no petroleum at all (gas in your car, diesel for the farmer's tractors that produce your organic food, plastic in your iPhone, etc) then be glad we are developing homegrown sources of oil. Once the Middle East conflicts go region-wide and affect the oil fields, local oil will be all we have.
they need too clean up that beach some get rid of the logs put in some new gravel or sand the news said that you guys have had 17 days in a row with rain lol looks like a good place too fish when its warm
Actually this winter has been relatively dry.
17 consecutive days of rain in Seattle? Only out-of-towners or tourists would complain. Us native Seattlites are used to it pouring rain every day from October to May!