It's always neat to see the SD7 and SD9s on the P&W. You'll have to come back to see more of the Columbia Basin at some point too, it's a really neat operation. Great video!
I didn't realize you had captured any Columbia Basin action when we spoke of it on that day so I was glad to see the one shot. Too bad you weren't able to find them again though. Glad you caught both the SD's as much as you did!
Takes me back to the 80's and SP days on the Siskiyou line. I used to watch the Cadillacs switching RFP in Dillard. There were times when there would be 8 or 10 units sitting at the depot in Roseburg. I would park at the depot and listen to them idle. Those were the days. Glad there are still a few of them around.
Props to the W&P and P&W for respectfully preserving and conserving these old men. They are very handsome in their as-near-to-original schemes as possible. BRAVO!
Unfortunately, a lot of these older EMD units are destined to be scrapped sometime in the near future due to G&W violating EPA rules. What is also very unfortunate is that the G&W stated that none of the units are being sold off or preserved.
Definitely why I'm glad I didn't apply to any one of their roads after leaving Adirondack Railroad for now, the full time freight service side of my Railroading career
The EPA is out of line. These are historic Locomotives, GE C44-9 puts out way more air pollution than these. G&W had no choice, the EPA said they could not be given to museums. What about all the current 1st generation diesel loco's already in Museums?
@@GregoryZucco-z6mIf Genesee & Wyoming had met EPA's requirements then the fiat scrapping of their older locomotives wouldn't have happened, and they might've had some leverage to preserve the two SP units. I doubt they care about preservation, however; only running as cheaply as possible.
DieselMotive Company Inc has acquired #1501 and I think they'll rebuild PNWR #1501 and refurbish #1501 and then eventually send #1501 to a museum like #5989
Those vintage EMDS are awesome. Glad to see they’re still earning their keep (and in SP paint !)and I hope it stays that way. 9:11 First time I’ve seen a dash cam on a high hood too
I loved to see this old girl switching it up. Female Engineer too. I've been an S.P. Fan my whole life as it was our home railroad in Southern & Central Calif. Even got to cab ride in a G P 9 LOCAL 10 years ago. I knew the conductor. That was thirll of a lifetime. But then the big bad wolf consumed S P. My Grey tunnel motors were replaced by U.P. Yellow. Time moves on. Thank you for GREAT VIDIO!!
I run a surviving EMD at the Golden gate railroad Museum SP GP9 3194, and it went through the grip program updated from a 567 to a 645 among other things also has SD45 traction motors
@ 23:32... nice place for the marker to hang, right on the side of the truck... i swear if they weren't hanging on where they're supposed to be, them things were always in the way... looking at this setup, that's a good spot for it, completely out of the way till it's needed
Welcome to the west coast DIB we welcome you in Portland if you stick around portland you should visit the ORHC we have the American freedom train here we love our southern pacific locomotives
1501 was the first locomotive used on June 7 1974n my first trip on pay on the Burbank Switcher. Then many times since on various jobs/trains/locals over the years! Frequented yard jobs in Taylor Yard, Los Angeles. Often seen as hump power, Top End Bull, C-Yard and Low End C-yard jobs...
Looks like EMD unit 1852 burnt all the paint off its carbody doors. The old girl needs some PAINT !!! It does me good to hear that notching up and down, while they switch. I was around it for almost 38 years. I rewired just about everything we had, at one point. I miss hearing it. I've been retired over a decade.
Going from Albany to Toledo would take us 9-10 hours via truck when we would do recycle deliveries. We always counted on staying the night in the pulp yard and leaving the next morning to try to get back. That terrain is unforgiving
Reason for that has to do with track speed restrictions. Most of the line is capped at 10 mph with only a small segment of that whole trip being 15 mph
There is another SD9 that runs on the P&W. It's currently running on the rock train between Albany and Hillsboro. This train runs push/pull with a pair of GP39's as well. Not sure what the unit number is off the top of my head
Nice to see these old veterans still running on the P&W. Hopefully you can catch more of the Columbia Basin RR. That track through Warden is what's left of the Milwaukee Road Pacific Extension, stretching from Warden through Othello and ending at Royal City Jct. Of Milwaukee heritage is the branch from Royal City Jct to Royal City and from Othello to Moses Lake. The other track in the area is of Northern Pacific RR Heritage. My grandma lived in Warden from the 1960's to 1975. She worked at a potato distribution factory in Othello at accounting office. Potatoes were loaded into ice reefers on the Milwaukee into the 1970's and shipped East. I was just 3 years old when grandma moved away from Warden and was unaware that the Milwaukee Road went through there.
old EMD's die hard in australia they still use EMD GM and CL classes as well as the alco world class on main line freight atleast G & W keep the paint jobs acceptable on the australian lines unlike the american loco's where the main paint used is rust
Some railroads such as Portland and Western and Columbia Basin Railroads. The Portland and Western parent company G&W got into trouble with the EPA for using old diesel locomotives. #1501 was parked for the last time on July 19th due to a leak. However to surprise, before she was scheduled to be scrapped, BUGX acquired the #1501 and its currently awaiting arrival at their site as of December 2023. Who knows what BUGX plans to do with #1501 once it finally arrives on their property? I think they'll refurbish #1501 and eventually donate it to a museum.
As of July 19th, the engine has been officially retired and had a bad water leak into the block. The SD7 has it’s numbered days, and who knows when it will be cut up.
Goodness!!! I'm glad they seem to take care of the mechanical side of things because there's no way normally looking at 1852 that she should sound so perfect. I mean running absolutely perfectly. The smallest chooch as the throttle gets bumped up a bit. She sounds like a sewing machine at idle. But looking at her. My God lol
The Duluth Missabe & Ironrange Railway of northern MN was the last RR to use steam (massive articulated Yellowstones) n then used dozens of SD9, -18, -24 n -36s for decades! They frequently shared equipment w/ their sister Elgin, Joliet n Eastern RR of Chicago suburb! Both strictly used SDs w/dynamic brake systems.
I think one of there units is at IRM. Also I think that's the gentleman who runs seven idea Productions I recognize his voice due to his earlier programs made in the Pacific Northwest back in 2007
X1801 is another. I've seen it in service seldom in the south willamette valley. Not sure if they still have it, was still in decent shape 3 years ago. Mechanics I had talked with stated parts and power packs are harder and harder to find.
This was a feature for all SP SD7/9s as they were built with split tanks. One tank was for Diesel and the other for Water as they were passenger equipped. When they were rebuilt by the Sacramento Shops in the 1970s, all passenger related equipped was removed, including the unneeded 2nd tank.
Interesting to see the EOT device bolted to the side of the truck on the old SD9. And, a road slug on the Toledo Hauler? Interesting, seems like those are becoming more and more popular?
I think that's a typical on board storage location for those devices. Road slugs allow the mother engine to dissipate excess power to additional powered axles at low speeds which give the Toledo Hauler/Patch a tractive advantage that is comparable to an SD40-2. You might ask, "well, why can't they just use a six axle motor?" Because rulebook restrictions prohibit the use of six axle locomotives on the Toledo District. So the use of slugs or additional power is how they get around that on a hilly and curvy district with a 10 mph speed restriction almost the whole way there
@@the_1drummajor I hadn't noticed those stored there before. Perhaps I haven't paid enough attention or perhaps I just never saw it. Reminds me a little of pictures of old WW2 tanks with tools and gear strapped to the side. As for road slugs, I always thought it was an interesting and useful concept, I think the ones with cabs are particularly interesting.
The PNWR 2005 on the other hand does have it's rear blinker mounted (actually just under the frame rather than the truck). But truck mounting an EOT is rather unusual to me to say the least
Ok I knew I wasn’t crazy! I could have sworn I remembered hearing about how they “lost” that first CRBW train and drove all up and down and couldn’t find it! I’m not necessarily upset about it, but I do think some of this is recycled content🤔
Great video! Though I could swear I've seen this already with Drayton narrating. I like the new guy, but I hope this doesn't spell the end of Drayton narrating some of these videos.
@@SPNGMalibu18 yep my friend told me that. And lemme guess, PNWR logo will be removed and they will put BUGX lettering? Also we have brand new locomotives. 3532, 3546, 3549, 3570, 3571, 3572, & 3593.
It's always neat to see the SD7 and SD9s on the P&W. You'll have to come back to see more of the Columbia Basin at some point too, it's a really neat operation. Great video!
I worked with that engine in Roseville from 1977 to 1990
I didn't realize you had captured any Columbia Basin action when we spoke of it on that day so I was glad to see the one shot. Too bad you weren't able to find them again though. Glad you caught both the SD's as much as you did!
Love the sound of the 567's always have and always will. Thanks for sharing!
Takes me back to the 80's and SP days on the Siskiyou line. I used to watch the Cadillacs switching RFP in Dillard.
There were times when there would be 8 or 10 units sitting at the depot in Roseburg. I would park at the depot and listen to them idle. Those were the days. Glad there are still a few of them around.
It’s such a treat to see these first generation diesel’s still in action. They always put on a great show, theirs nothing like it
Props to the W&P and P&W for respectfully preserving and conserving these old men. They are very handsome in their as-near-to-original schemes as possible. BRAVO!
Unfortunately, a lot of these older EMD units are destined to be scrapped sometime in the near future due to G&W violating EPA rules. What is also very unfortunate is that the G&W stated that none of the units are being sold off or preserved.
Definitely why I'm glad I didn't apply to any one of their roads after leaving Adirondack Railroad for now, the full time freight service side of my Railroading career
The EPA is out of line. These are historic Locomotives, GE C44-9 puts out way more air pollution than these.
G&W had no choice, the EPA said they could not be given to museums. What about all the current 1st generation diesel loco's already in Museums?
@@GregoryZucco-z6mIf Genesee & Wyoming had met EPA's requirements then the fiat scrapping of their older locomotives wouldn't have happened, and they might've had some leverage to preserve the two SP units. I doubt they care about preservation, however; only running as cheaply as possible.
#1501 has been sold to the Oklahoma Railway Museum as of this month.
DieselMotive Company Inc has acquired #1501 and I think they'll rebuild PNWR #1501 and refurbish #1501 and then eventually send #1501 to a museum like #5989
Those vintage EMDS are awesome. Glad to see they’re still earning their keep (and in SP paint !)and I hope it stays that way. 9:11 First time I’ve seen a dash cam on a high hood too
the Illinois Railway Museum has the SP 1518 the first SD7 made and yes it does operate as well :)
you mean cnw gp7 1518
@@ufolive1SP 1518 was the first ever SD class locomotive built by EMD in 1951. CNW 1518 was the first ever GP locomotive built by EMD in 1948
Those old two stroke EMD diesel engines sound awesome.
Man those old SD units are some of the best! Thanks for sharing
I loved to see this old girl switching it up. Female Engineer too. I've been an S.P. Fan my whole life as it was our home railroad in Southern & Central Calif.
Even got to cab ride in a G P 9 LOCAL 10 years ago. I knew the conductor. That was thirll of a lifetime. But then the big bad wolf consumed S P. My Grey tunnel motors were replaced by U.P. Yellow.
Time moves on. Thank you for GREAT VIDIO!!
Right? It was either bloody nose or war bonnet around so cal. Those were the good days of 8 4 axle power unit pulls going over cajon or tehachapi
Thanx for the video. Love the sound of the EMD 2 stroke locos. Nice see old 1950s vintage locos still operating outside a museum
Great video. It was nice to see railfans and the railroad working together to make railroading safe.
What an incredibly beautiful piece of living history
I run a surviving EMD at the Golden gate railroad Museum SP GP9 3194, and it went through the grip program updated from a 567 to a 645 among other things also has SD45 traction motors
The drone shot at 18:00 plus is beautiful. Good eye, steady hands.
@ 23:32... nice place for the marker to hang, right on the side of the truck... i swear if they weren't hanging on where they're supposed to be, them things were always in the way... looking at this setup, that's a good spot for it, completely out of the way till it's needed
I love seeing it every time I enter the yard
Welcome to the west coast DIB we welcome you in Portland if you stick around portland you should visit the ORHC we have the American freedom train here we love our southern pacific locomotives
I love old high hood engines. Nothing like them
1501 was the first locomotive used on June 7 1974n my first trip on pay on the Burbank Switcher. Then many times since on various jobs/trains/locals over the years! Frequented yard jobs in Taylor Yard, Los Angeles. Often seen as hump power, Top End Bull, C-Yard and Low End C-yard jobs...
Love the sounds of those grandpa locomotives !
Looks like EMD unit 1852 burnt all the paint off its carbody doors. The old girl needs some PAINT !!! It does me good to hear that notching up and down, while they switch. I was around it for almost 38 years. I rewired just about everything we had, at one point. I miss hearing it. I've been retired over a decade.
Glad to see those old engines still working
Love seeing that old war horse still being used in original paint !
Thats cool seeing Roseville on the side of the 1501, since we live in Lincoln.
Super video! Nice locomotives in action! Big LIKE
You dont see very many females working this type of industry. Glad to see 2 of them in this video!
Eight hours to get the Toledo Hauler from Albany to Toledo. That's taking the 'scenic route' to extremes! I'm looking forward to seeing that video.
Me too
Going from Albany to Toledo would take us 9-10 hours via truck when we would do recycle deliveries. We always counted on staying the night in the pulp yard and leaving the next morning to try to get back. That terrain is unforgiving
Reason for that has to do with track speed restrictions. Most of the line is capped at 10 mph with only a small segment of that whole trip being 15 mph
Nice... I love the traces of the old SP paint job, as if it will never die....
I love the High Hoods.
There is another SD9 that runs on the P&W. It's currently running on the rock train between Albany and Hillsboro. This train runs push/pull with a pair of GP39's as well. Not sure what the unit number is off the top of my head
That would be PNWR 1854.
Neat to see SD7 action
Nice to see these old veterans still running on the P&W. Hopefully you can catch more of the Columbia Basin RR. That track through Warden is what's left of the Milwaukee Road Pacific Extension, stretching from Warden through Othello and ending at Royal City Jct. Of Milwaukee heritage is the branch from Royal City Jct to Royal City and from Othello to Moses Lake. The other track in the area is of Northern Pacific RR Heritage. My grandma lived in Warden from the 1960's to 1975. She worked at a potato distribution factory in Othello at accounting office. Potatoes were loaded into ice reefers on the Milwaukee into the 1970's and shipped East. I was just 3 years old when grandma moved away from Warden and was unaware that the Milwaukee Road went through there.
The 1501 has somewhat of a unique horn to it, and I hear it relatively frequently for my place in Eugene
I've heard it's got an old Nathan M3 horn, as opposed to your standard P3's and K5LA's.
Your videos are amazing.💖💖💖💖💖💖
Old EMDs will go on for ever, regardless of what state the paintwork may get into 🎅 (though the BNSF paint on that GP9 seems to be holding up well)
The high hoods are a rare breed.
Great show and great channel. Greetings from. SE Michigan and CSX.
Hello, fellow Michigander!
I lived in Albany, Lebanon for 15 years! Watched that railroad many times.
Fantastic to see some good old SP iron still grinding the buck. A working testament to a once great railroad !!!!!
Nice
You're Awesome Drone Action Video Dude Well done Drayton!!! 👍🏽✅🎃🎃🚂🚃🚃🚃🚃🎃🎃
26:12 my fav cars in background…Diffco Side Dumpers!
thanks for posting. i saw a photo of the PNWR 1501 a couple weeks ago and have been obsessed with it 😊
old EMD's die hard
in australia they still use EMD GM and CL classes as well as the alco world class on main line freight
atleast G & W keep the paint jobs acceptable on the australian lines unlike the american loco's where the main paint used is rust
Some railroads such as Portland and Western and Columbia Basin Railroads. The Portland and Western parent company G&W got into trouble with the EPA for using old diesel locomotives. #1501 was parked for the last time on July 19th due to a leak. However to surprise, before she was scheduled to be scrapped, BUGX acquired the #1501 and its currently awaiting arrival at their site as of December 2023. Who knows what BUGX plans to do with #1501 once it finally arrives on their property? I think they'll refurbish #1501 and eventually donate it to a museum.
You can never replace the sound of that Roots blower and the 2 stroke 567 prime mover 👍
The gp9 is my favorite train engine 🎉
Very nice catches there nice video👍
That old SD7 would make a wonderful model locomotive weathering project.
Unit 1501 was retired July 19,2023!
It’s been sold to the Oklahoma Railway Museum as of this month.
6:30 "Amtrak Talgo Train"
Never thought I'd see a FRED attached to 1501's truck side frame?!
As of July 19th, the engine has been officially retired and had a bad water leak into the block. The SD7 has it’s numbered days, and who knows when it will be cut up.
It’s been sold to the Oklahoma Railway Museum as of this month.
Sd7 is still going strong since ‘97 so glorious and beautiful.
Goodness!!! I'm glad they seem to take care of the mechanical side of things because there's no way normally looking at 1852 that she should sound so perfect. I mean running absolutely perfectly. The smallest chooch as the throttle gets bumped up a bit. She sounds like a sewing machine at idle. But looking at her. My God lol
Pretty vintage
Indeed
The Duluth Missabe & Ironrange Railway of northern MN was the last RR to use steam (massive articulated Yellowstones) n then used dozens of SD9, -18, -24 n -36s for decades! They frequently shared equipment w/ their sister Elgin, Joliet n Eastern RR of Chicago suburb! Both strictly used SDs w/dynamic brake systems.
I'm having deja vu watching this video.
Would love to see this painted back to full SP Colors
I believe that Albany gp7 is going to a museum
I think one of there units is at IRM.
Also I think that's the gentleman who runs seven idea Productions I recognize his voice due to his earlier programs made in the Pacific Northwest back in 2007
IRM’s 1518 is I believe the very first SD locomotive built.
@@JDevine687 IRM also acquired a CNW SD50 from NREX
@@ironcityrailfan8467 When will CNW SD50 be on IRM?
@@ironcityrailfan8467 Because WPRM purchase WP GP20 WP #302 coach car CNW/MP gondola cars
@@atsf855sanbernardinocounty85 it just recently arrived
I had a layover in Portland once and I caught a power move with two of their ex-SF locomotives.
Classic Trains continuing to pull revenue Freight.
Now that’s what I call the purest example of “If it ain’t broke, Don’t Fix it.”
That looks like train 503 or 505. 501 does not run between Portland (PDX) and Eugene (EUG)
Come on, give those old girls a lick of paint!
Nice bell
X1801 is another. I've seen it in service seldom in the south willamette valley. Not sure if they still have it, was still in decent shape 3 years ago. Mechanics I had talked with stated parts and power packs are harder and harder to find.
Sadly, unit 1501 was seen a few weeks ago in Tehachapi in a mixed manifest freight headed south for what I assume is an unfortunate fate....
Apparently no one checks the points and makes sure the catch is locked on this railroad!
Dang, if I knew you guys were up here, I 'd had you over and run a Southern Crescent for you! SCott
Sadly 1501 is going to be scrapped and it is already replaces by a new engine
1501 and 1852 are the types of locomotives that chase you in your nightmares.
not that long ago i think sunday i bought a model of southern pacific sd7 in the black widow scheme
PNWR SD7 # 1501 is scheduled to be retired, likely by the end of the month or so.
It’s been sold to the Oklahoma Railway Museum as of October.
And 1501 was operating in classic Southern Railway fashion by operating long hood forward.
Son't think I've ever seen a SD7/9 with only half a fuel tank.
This was a feature for all SP SD7/9s as they were built with split tanks. One tank was for Diesel and the other for Water as they were passenger equipped. When they were rebuilt by the Sacramento Shops in the 1970s, all passenger related equipped was removed, including the unneeded 2nd tank.
Good voice over, but I miss Drayton's Michigan drawl
Yep, completely agree.
I also saw Amtrak coast starlight #14 with one of the newest locomotives to their fleet a alc-42 charger
That’s amazing
Interesting to see the EOT device bolted to the side of the truck on the old SD9. And, a road slug on the Toledo Hauler? Interesting, seems like those are becoming more and more popular?
I think that's a typical on board storage location for those devices. Road slugs allow the mother engine to dissipate excess power to additional powered axles at low speeds which give the Toledo Hauler/Patch a tractive advantage that is comparable to an SD40-2. You might ask, "well, why can't they just use a six axle motor?" Because rulebook restrictions prohibit the use of six axle locomotives on the Toledo District. So the use of slugs or additional power is how they get around that on a hilly and curvy district with a 10 mph speed restriction almost the whole way there
@@the_1drummajor I hadn't noticed those stored there before. Perhaps I haven't paid enough attention or perhaps I just never saw it. Reminds me a little of pictures of old WW2 tanks with tools and gear strapped to the side.
As for road slugs, I always thought it was an interesting and useful concept, I think the ones with cabs are particularly interesting.
The PNWR 2005 on the other hand does have it's rear blinker mounted (actually just under the frame rather than the truck). But truck mounting an EOT is rather unusual to me to say the least
I'd like to see newer trains with led headlights
Family owned things are just way better
idk know about the railroad but I would repaint that ancient SD7 back into Southern Pacific "bloody nose" scheme 😉
possibly the others too
Does anyone know what happened to Montana Rail Link?
UP really ran a lot of traffic for you while you were there…… lol
Cool!
Pretty rare seeing first-generation GPs and SDs working together in the same consist.
The CBRW 1626 had it's nose chopped by CBRW after purchase from BNSF.
How is a 49 year old locomotive still in service wearing the paint of a railway that went under in 1996??
Great video, however most of it seems familiar as if I’ve seen a lot of it before? Is this a earlier released , edited video?
Ok I knew I wasn’t crazy! I could have sworn I remembered hearing about how they “lost” that first CRBW train and drove all up and down and couldn’t find it! I’m not necessarily upset about it, but I do think some of this is recycled content🤔
Great video! Thanks for sharing! I wonder how many of these old school locomotives run on there original engines?
Good question!
Great video!
Though I could swear I've seen this already with Drayton narrating.
I like the new guy, but I hope this doesn't spell the end of Drayton narrating some of these videos.
Lot of work in yards, even small ones, to assemble manifest trains!
They need to put a fresh coat of SP paint on the old work horse.
Wondering if any of the SD-7 or SD-9's will be preserved.
What’s going on here? Why have I seen this entire video before???
This locomotive has been retired. It's slated for scrap.
As of today, 1501 has been bought by BUGX in Stockton, California.
@@SPNGMalibu18 yep my friend told me that. And lemme guess, PNWR logo will be removed and they will put BUGX lettering? Also we have brand new locomotives. 3532, 3546, 3549, 3570, 3571, 3572, & 3593.
3051 on RCPE now, 3001 scrapped.
It’s been sold to the Oklahoma Railway Museum as of this month.