To think it was normal 100 years ago for Brisbanites to swim in our rver. Imagine the water quality back then with all the industry spewing their residue into our brown snake river.
@@56music64 My dad went to school in the city in 1960's. The water was so clear you could see the bottom. He thinks that because they've been using the gravel from the river and dredging to build roads, that the river lost it's natural filtration system 🙂
I reckon in the in the inside the mine at mt cootha, heard they were looking for ideas what to put their, why not an Olympic size swimming pool and amenities. You get the bonitical gardens right next to it and the lookout up the mountain
I loved Expo 88. I was 10 years old and especially loved hearing the South sea islanders sings to the crackle of torches at night and the great holiday atmosphere 🌃
I dont actually think highlighting the river is that good of an idea to be honest. You mentioned they are holding the Olympics in winter, but Sydney 2000 was late September early October . If we started later like Sydney did, we'd have the Jacaranda's in play. Brisbane's hidden strength is actually in its parkland over the river. Victoria Park, Botanic Gardens, UQ Lakes, Minippi Parklands, Kedron Brook Bikeway, Nudgee Wetlands and Mt Cootha. It isnt perfect at the moment, but id rather highlight that over the brown snake.
Great idea but, I think the museum planning a renovation soon, might be off the cards if that gets approved first. Put both athletics and the swimming out at Hamilton near the athletes village
They could hold some of the triathlon style events on the beautiful Sunshine Coast, where I live. We have great beaches and clear blue waters this time of year 😎
Not sure if there is enough room at the maritime museum for a facility like this.. but do agree that southbank needs to be made bigger through a corridor connecting southbank with the gabba precinct... with more apartment blocks going up around south brisbane, southbank needs to grow as well...
I'm not sure either, but I'd love to see it! Or at least something like it! And yes, agree, that corridor connecting South Bank with the Gabba needs to happen - there was plans to at least connect the Gabba with the CBD via the Kangaroo Pt green bridge, and I'd to see better connection with South Bank too.
I live on Vulture St across from the Mater and the whole area gets gridlocked from 2pm onwards making it harder for Ambulances and a complete standstill on game days..Thought greening Stanley st through to the gabba and perhaps a tunnel from M1 under South Bris connecting to inner city bypass at Suncorp?. Cut the toll on this and the clem 7 and put a toll on the expressway instead as it is over 70 years old and replacing it with tunnels is inevitable. Use the go between bridge as a walkway to connect Southbank and queens wharf to Suncorp Stadium.
No thought gone into the practicality of its day to day operations. A training facility in the middle of the city would be a nightmare scenario. Plus we don't fill Chandler for national championships etc so there is no real need for a 15k swimming stadium outside of the Olympics so you are actually proposing building a white elephant right in the middle of the city. It's also been established from the second the SEQ bid was placed that the triathlon and open water swimming would be at the Southport Broadwater. This is a tried and tested triathlon course that's been used every year since the late 80s and hosted multiple world championships. It's a no brainer really 🤷
You need a bobsled track too. I remember cheering the Jamaican bobsled team. Of course snow is alien to most of Aus. Good luck with this. You are right. This would be a great addition to Brisbane and Australia.
@@always12lovemusic Why not? They have ski hills. Watching a kangaroo hop by heavily drsssed skiers is surreal the first time. Search YT, there’s a number of videos showing this.
@waynesworldofsci-tech because they are hosting the summer Olympics. Unless you're just listing random other things they could build in Brisbane. Yes, they could build a bobsled track. The statement still stands that they don't NEED a bobsled track, however, as it is not a sport they need to cater for in the summer Olympics. They will NEED to ensure they they can cater to all the summer sports in order to host the Olympics successfully. They don't need a bobsled track to do this. Snow, skiing, kangaroos and the entertainment value of such things are irrelevant to the need for a bobsled track. But yes, I acknowledge that you would like one and would find it entertaining.
You missed the fact that Paris built a brand new aquatics stadium next to Stade De France to house all the diving and most water polo. Zero diving took place at La Defense.
Every modern city connects storm drainage to the sewer system so that your toilets don't start to flood in a downpour, Sydney is no different. But like Paris, Sydney has storm water reservoirs to hold the storm water so that our beaches won't become the brown sludge that Sydney Beaches used to be in the late 1980s.
Revive the Victoria Park main stadium and put a new aquatic complex on the opposite side of the inner city bypass near the existing Centenary pool complex. Also cover the bypass with a large concourse so there is a proper connection between the venues. You could even add an additional railway station there as well.
why not just renovate chandler? it needs renovating anyway. there's plenty of space there, plenty of parking, it's right on the gateway and the road infrastructure around there doesn't get any better. can't say any of these things for that area of south bank
That’s a great idea and plus the city cat services are right their and me being a swimmer competing at chandler it’s just not quite to that standard anymore
Terrible idea Mel, firstly you have to have 2 full sized 50m pools to be world class and the maritime museum needs support not demolition. Build it opposite a renovated Gabba where the new CRR train station is
massive and numerous studies suggesting that building stadiums for the Olympics is wasteful and go in decline shortly after the games: This guy: lets destroy a museum to build a stadium which won't fill it seats after the Olympics are done 👏
Last I heard (during the Paris games) the swimming will be held at the new confirmed Brisbane Arena at Roma Street Parklands - seating capacity of 17,000
That was the plan until March 2024. A Validation report said cost would be $4 billion plus. New proposed site is nearby Roma Street Parklands carpark and some surrounding area. No validation report back yet after six months. Most likely $3 billion plus for an Entertainment Centre not needed for the Olympics. The Quirk report mentioned an alternative is a new facility at Chandler for $620 million. Keep the old Aquatic Centre for what has already been planned for the other water events like water polo, synchronized swimming etc.
Having a brand new aquatic centre for Brisbane makes sense as so does having a large entertainment centre which is what Brisbane Arena does. Both venues provide a legacy. What doesn’t make sense is for Brisbane to have multiple indoor stadiums with crowd capacity over 10,000. Instead of building two new indoor stadiums for gymnastics & basketball at the Olympics, Brisbane should do what Paris has done - hold the basketball preliminaries in other cities & then host quarters, semis & medal matches in Brisbane in the same venue as gymnastics. So instead of building 3 new indoor stadiums, Brisbane builds one - Brisbane Arena - plus a new aquatic centre. Sydney and/or Melbourne host the preliminaries of basketball in Qudos Bank Arena & Rod Laver Arena which are better venues & will attract large crowds.
What Brisbane needs to do is reopen the Tennyson line so people take an express train from Springfield or Ipswich to the gold coast. The Olympic Park should definitely be at Southbank so athletes can get their morning run and swim in before the day starts.
Yeah I'm all for it. Brisbane needs to do something. It's all well and good to use existing infrastructure. But when you're competing against the likes of Tokyo, Paris, and LA, their existing infrastructure is already world class. Whereas Brisbane doesn't have that world class infrastructure because we're a small fast growing city. At some stage this world class infrastructure has to be built. No better time than for the Olympics. It's like today watching the athletics in Paris. An already existing stadium and its very impressive! Brisbane just cannot use Qsac or Qpac or whatever it's called. It'll be a z grade venue for what's the biggest sporting event in the world. It ain't going to cut the mustard! Brisbane needs a state of the art aquatic centre and Olympic stadium, as both will be world class venues that will stand the test of time in Brisbane. Either way, they better get a move on. Only 8 years to go to sort this out and get it right. Time to get stuck in and start building. This is the Olympics we're talking about. Not the Commonwealth Australia Benefit Games. I think the triathlon etc should be held on the Gold Coast or Sunny Coast.
Stadium venue is best ao you can get capacity nearer 30,000 (similar to what Sofi will be) with a temporary stand. Builidng a permanent 15,000 seater is a waste - will never fill. Sydney 2000 was 17,000 but reduced to under 5,000 post games
If I was a swimmer in the Brisbane Olympics, ( Now there’s a big stretch.) I wouldn’t want to be swimming in the Brisbane river, knowing it’s got bull sharks in it. Neither should anyone.
It is sports vs history at stake here but I still like the ideea. Man vs bull sharks as exciting as it sounds No thanks not even for rowing. Lake Kawana or Lake Orr .
I live in Brisbane but a lot of projects were cancelled and honestly 2032 looks like its going to be the worst Olympics in terms of infrastructure. We're getting Commonwealth GC all over again. Wat to go QLD to ruin everything.
The Brisbane River has over 1 million people's sewer and effluent discharged. This has secondary treatment but would need to be treated to a higher level. If we get nuclear power we may be able to treat our sewerage otherwise the river is filthier than the Seine!
Yep. put it on a known floodplain! The whole of the South Bank precinct has gone completely under 3 times since 1974. The Olympics are just not gonna happen in Brisbane. Petty political point scoring has put us back 5 years at least. Not a single venue has even been finalised. QSAC is even older than Chandler (it opened in 1976) the closest rail station can handle less than 300 people at most and is at least 15 minutes walk away. It breaks my heart that the whole Lab/Lib bullshit is gonna sink these games.
lol what is the point of this video. SM has never said no to brisbane live/arena and has always supported it as legacy infrastructure to be used after the games
Queensland home of Australian swimming? 🤔🤔ok you can argue that to me as a Victorian but can you argue that to WA or NSW? something about the water in Queensland ... I suppose the difference would be quite noticeable at Tweed Heads? is the maritime site big enough to hold a new swimming centre and lagoons playpool bar as per your suggestion? wouldn't we want a crowd of 25 thousand instead of 15? why not a big redevelopment of the chandler centre? why is this an unpopular idea?
Sorry. Brisbane cannot be sold short because of political play fights and vocal minorities. Build Brisbane Live, and build the Gabba/ Vic Park. Unfortunately, It's time for the incapable and embarrassing people in power to grow up and learn to pay and not speak. This isn't a shot at you, it's a decent idea that will never be listened to.
@@MelPikos yo no offence man. if the government won't listen to the former mayor with a recommendation that they paid for, what are the chances they'll listen to you, or us? We need people in power to pitch this somehow
Brissy '32 is going to be a shitshow. Old, tired venues and stadiums. No new Gabba, no purpose built aquatic centre etc. An international embarrassment. Not sure about your idea, although anything to get rid of the eyesore that is the maritime museum is ok by me.
@MelPikos Let's hope our government will actually go into development mode and get stuff done. We want to become a world class city, not a world class laughing stock.
As long as it’s ok by you yeah? I don’t think your opinion is going to put a dampener on the whole event. Many host cities have also been left until the months and weeks leading up to the games to rectify facilities. The only embarrassment is your attitude.
new stuff is not what makes an olympics great. it's just wasted money. there's a reason brisbane got the olmypics... no one else wants to pay for all this stuff. if the olympics wants to survive, people have to stop expecting new, expensive facilities
I know where it should be built. No destruction or temporary pools and Brisbane would be permanently better of for the location. Very accessible from all directions. Nothing destroyed or knock down. Only all pluses.
"Whomever survives the bullsharks is the winner" 😂😂
To think it was normal 100 years ago for Brisbanites to swim in our rver. Imagine the water quality back then with all the industry spewing their residue into our brown snake river.
@@56music64 My dad went to school in the city in 1960's. The water was so clear you could see the bottom. He thinks that because they've been using the gravel from the river and dredging to build roads, that the river lost it's natural filtration system 🙂
Super exciting for Brisbane 🏖🏖🏖
Great idea… Perfect location and expansion.
I reckon in the in the inside the mine at mt cootha, heard they were looking for ideas what to put their, why not an Olympic size swimming pool and amenities. You get the bonitical gardens right next to it and the lookout up the mountain
build it where toombul shopping centre was. Removes the logistical nightmare of filling em' up
Hahahaha L😂L Good one!
Good idea, more practical than the southbank swimming stadium that will get flooded anyway
How exciting! Great idea!!!
Yes, and using Southbank at the same time is fantastic❤
Brilliant idea. Would love to see this.
Me too!
Sounds like a great idea, Pretty similar to Bondi Icebergs pools
Certainly a bit of inspo from it!
I love them. Great idea.
Great idea!
Great idea, that's a real legacy.
Like the idea 👍
Great idea, I like it! During World Expo 88, there was an Aquacade just near the Maritime Museum featuring high diving and synchronised swimming shows
I loved Expo 88. I was 10 years old and especially loved hearing the South sea islanders sings to the crackle of torches at night and the great holiday atmosphere 🌃
at least the bullsharks will get fed
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I love your videos!
Thanks mate! Appreciate that!
I dont actually think highlighting the river is that good of an idea to be honest. You mentioned they are holding the Olympics in winter, but Sydney 2000 was late September early October . If we started later like Sydney did, we'd have the Jacaranda's in play.
Brisbane's hidden strength is actually in its parkland over the river. Victoria Park, Botanic Gardens, UQ Lakes, Minippi Parklands, Kedron Brook Bikeway, Nudgee Wetlands and Mt Cootha. It isnt perfect at the moment, but id rather highlight that over the brown snake.
I like your idea of the Jacarandas, they are beautiful
That's a great idea 👌
The Olympic swimming should be on the Gold Coast. Common wealth pool can be upgraded.
Great idea but, I think the museum planning a renovation soon, might be off the cards if that gets approved first.
Put both athletics and the swimming out at Hamilton near the athletes village
They could hold some of the triathlon style events on the beautiful Sunshine Coast, where I live. We have great beaches and clear blue waters this time of year 😎
I reckon there’s a very good chance those style of events will be held on either the Gold or Sunshine coasts.
@@MelPikos and the opening ceromony on the brisbane river at south bank
you could easily throw in some side nets into the Brisbane river for the swimming, how good would it be to do it between southbank to newfarm
that would be cool your idea
Not sure if there is enough room at the maritime museum for a facility like this.. but do agree that southbank needs to be made bigger through a corridor connecting southbank with the gabba precinct... with more apartment blocks going up around south brisbane, southbank needs to grow as well...
I'm not sure either, but I'd love to see it! Or at least something like it! And yes, agree, that corridor connecting South Bank with the Gabba needs to happen - there was plans to at least connect the Gabba with the CBD via the Kangaroo Pt green bridge, and I'd to see better connection with South Bank too.
I live on Vulture St across from the Mater and the whole area gets gridlocked from 2pm onwards making it harder for Ambulances and a complete standstill on game days..Thought greening Stanley st through to the gabba and perhaps a tunnel from M1 under South Bris connecting to inner city bypass at Suncorp?. Cut the toll on this and the clem 7 and put a toll on the expressway instead as it is over 70 years old and replacing it with tunnels is inevitable. Use the go between bridge as a walkway to connect Southbank and queens wharf to Suncorp Stadium.
No thought gone into the practicality of its day to day operations. A training facility in the middle of the city would be a nightmare scenario. Plus we don't fill Chandler for national championships etc so there is no real need for a 15k swimming stadium outside of the Olympics so you are actually proposing building a white elephant right in the middle of the city.
It's also been established from the second the SEQ bid was placed that the triathlon and open water swimming would be at the Southport Broadwater. This is a tried and tested triathlon course that's been used every year since the late 80s and hosted multiple world championships. It's a no brainer really 🤷
Can't wait for the movie based on real life "Under Brisbane"
You need a bobsled track too.
I remember cheering the Jamaican bobsled team. Of course snow is alien to most of Aus.
Good luck with this. You are right. This would be a great addition to Brisbane and Australia.
Definitely could use the bobsled track!! Great idea!
Bobsled is a winter Olympics sport, not a summer Olympics sport. They wouldn't need to make a bobsled track.
@@always12lovemusic
Why not? They have ski hills. Watching a kangaroo hop by heavily drsssed skiers is surreal the first time. Search YT, there’s a number of videos showing this.
@waynesworldofsci-tech because they are hosting the summer Olympics.
Unless you're just listing random other things they could build in Brisbane. Yes, they could build a bobsled track. The statement still stands that they don't NEED a bobsled track, however, as it is not a sport they need to cater for in the summer Olympics. They will NEED to ensure they they can cater to all the summer sports in order to host the Olympics successfully. They don't need a bobsled track to do this.
Snow, skiing, kangaroos and the entertainment value of such things are irrelevant to the need for a bobsled track. But yes, I acknowledge that you would like one and would find it entertaining.
@@always12lovemusic
Sure they do. Australia should be more involved in winter athletics.
You missed the fact that Paris built a brand new aquatics stadium next to Stade De France to house all the diving and most water polo. Zero diving took place at La Defense.
Every modern city connects storm drainage to the sewer system so that your toilets don't start to flood in a downpour, Sydney is no different. But like Paris, Sydney has storm water reservoirs to hold the storm water so that our beaches won't become the brown sludge that Sydney Beaches used to be in the late 1980s.
The bull shark should be the Qld mascot 😛
Revive the Victoria Park main stadium and put a new aquatic complex on the opposite side of the inner city bypass near the existing Centenary pool complex. Also cover the bypass with a large concourse so there is a proper connection between the venues. You could even add an additional railway station there as well.
why not just renovate chandler? it needs renovating anyway. there's plenty of space there, plenty of parking, it's right on the gateway and the road infrastructure around there doesn't get any better. can't say any of these things for that area of south bank
If it's feasible size wise, then yes deffo a great idea
That’s a great idea and plus the city cat services are right their and me being a swimmer competing at chandler it’s just not quite to that standard anymore
It would be a great location!
Terrible idea Mel, firstly you have to have 2 full sized 50m pools to be world class and the maritime museum needs support not demolition. Build it opposite a renovated Gabba where the new CRR train station is
massive and numerous studies suggesting that building stadiums for the Olympics is wasteful and go in decline shortly after the games:
This guy: lets destroy a museum to build a stadium which won't fill it seats after the Olympics are done 👏
Last I heard (during the Paris games) the swimming will be held at the new confirmed Brisbane Arena at Roma Street Parklands - seating capacity of 17,000
That was the plan until March 2024. A Validation report said cost would be $4 billion plus.
New proposed site is nearby Roma Street Parklands carpark and some surrounding area.
No validation report back yet after six months. Most likely $3 billion plus for an Entertainment Centre not needed for the Olympics.
The Quirk report mentioned an alternative is a new facility at Chandler for $620 million. Keep the old Aquatic Centre for what has already been planned for the other water events like water polo, synchronized swimming etc.
Maybe the swimming in the bremer river with the bullsharks.
I vote the olympians swim in the Brisbane river 🤙
😂😂 I’ll second that vote, just for a laugh!
Having a brand new aquatic centre for Brisbane makes sense as so does having a large entertainment centre which is what Brisbane Arena does. Both venues provide a legacy.
What doesn’t make sense is for Brisbane to have multiple indoor stadiums with crowd capacity over 10,000.
Instead of building two new indoor stadiums for gymnastics & basketball at the Olympics, Brisbane should do what Paris has done - hold the basketball preliminaries in other cities & then host quarters, semis & medal matches in Brisbane in the same venue as gymnastics.
So instead of building 3 new indoor stadiums, Brisbane builds one - Brisbane Arena - plus a new aquatic centre.
Sydney and/or Melbourne host the preliminaries of basketball in Qudos Bank Arena & Rod Laver Arena which are better venues & will attract large crowds.
It would be easier to clean Aussie rivers for swimming than the Seine
What Brisbane needs to do is reopen the Tennyson line so people take an express train from Springfield or Ipswich to the gold coast.
The Olympic Park should definitely be at Southbank so athletes can get their morning run and swim in before the day starts.
Just put a temp pool in Suncorp. It will sell out
Please do the Army Nasams acquisition.
Looks pretty cool, I’ll get the team to look into it
Great suggestion… but we could just incorporate a swimming arena in the Victoria Park proposal... if it actually went ahead.
Yeah I'm all for it. Brisbane needs to do something. It's all well and good to use existing infrastructure. But when you're competing against the likes of Tokyo, Paris, and LA, their existing infrastructure is already world class. Whereas Brisbane doesn't have that world class infrastructure because we're a small fast growing city. At some stage this world class infrastructure has to be built. No better time than for the Olympics. It's like today watching the athletics in Paris. An already existing stadium and its very impressive! Brisbane just cannot use Qsac or Qpac or whatever it's called. It'll be a z grade venue for what's the biggest sporting event in the world. It ain't going to cut the mustard! Brisbane needs a state of the art aquatic centre and Olympic stadium, as both will be world class venues that will stand the test of time in Brisbane. Either way, they better get a move on. Only 8 years to go to sort this out and get it right. Time to get stuck in and start building. This is the Olympics we're talking about. Not the Commonwealth Australia Benefit Games. I think the triathlon etc should be held on the Gold Coast or Sunny Coast.
Brisbane River frontage seems like it's overdeveloped already
Doesn't the Brisbane River flood at that site.🤔
Looks too small and cramped. I think the centre of excellence at Vic Park next to a new stadium is the best option. More room. Better access.
Swimming in the Brisbane River, bull sharks, turbidity, flow rate etc. I think not.
Stadium venue is best ao you can get capacity nearer 30,000 (similar to what Sofi will be) with a temporary stand.
Builidng a permanent 15,000 seater is a waste - will never fill. Sydney 2000 was 17,000 but reduced to under 5,000 post games
If I was a swimmer in the Brisbane Olympics, ( Now there’s a big stretch.) I wouldn’t want to be swimming in the Brisbane river, knowing it’s got bull sharks in it. Neither should anyone.
It can’t be in the lakes, it will feature into different swimming areas in South-East Queensland.
But therefore, I will wait until 2032.
Surely they gotta start them in early September not July when temps still dipping into single digits at night? 🤷♂️Sydney 2000 was in September 🤦♂️
Northern hemisphere TV holiday ratings.
Won't it be held in Brisbane? 🤔
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It is sports vs history at stake here but I still like the ideea. Man vs bull sharks as exciting as it sounds No thanks not even for rowing. Lake Kawana or Lake Orr .
The fact people think this is a good idea leaves me speechless
I live in Brisbane but a lot of projects were cancelled and honestly 2032 looks like its going to be the worst Olympics in terms of infrastructure. We're getting Commonwealth GC all over again. Wat to go QLD to ruin everything.
The Brisbane River has over 1 million people's sewer and effluent discharged. This has secondary treatment but would need to be treated to a higher level. If we get nuclear power we may be able to treat our sewerage otherwise the river is filthier than the Seine!
Olympic hosting is a waste of money, just look at all of the abandoned Olympic venues around the world from previous hosts.
Yep. put it on a known floodplain! The whole of the South Bank precinct has gone completely under 3 times since 1974.
The Olympics are just not gonna happen in Brisbane. Petty political point scoring has put us back 5 years at least.
Not a single venue has even been finalised. QSAC is even older than Chandler (it opened in 1976) the closest rail station can handle less than 300 people at most and is at least 15 minutes walk away.
It breaks my heart that the whole Lab/Lib bullshit is gonna sink these games.
lol what is the point of this video. SM has never said no to brisbane live/arena and has always supported it as legacy infrastructure to be used after the games
Queensland home of Australian swimming? 🤔🤔ok you can argue that to me as a Victorian but can you argue that to WA or NSW?
something about the water in Queensland ... I suppose the difference would be quite noticeable at Tweed Heads?
is the maritime site big enough to hold a new swimming centre and lagoons playpool bar as per your suggestion? wouldn't we want a crowd of 25 thousand instead of 15?
why not a big redevelopment of the chandler centre? why is this an unpopular idea?
Really? The home of swimming? or accusing others of doping,
Sorry. Brisbane cannot be sold short because of political play fights and vocal minorities. Build Brisbane Live, and build the Gabba/ Vic Park. Unfortunately, It's time for the incapable and embarrassing people in power to grow up and learn to pay and not speak. This isn't a shot at you, it's a decent idea that will never be listened to.
Great but no one will listen, unfortunately. Is there a way for the government to listen to people like yourself?
If we can get videos like this shared far and wide, maybe the government/council will hear! And keep using your own voice too!
@@MelPikos yo no offence man. if the government won't listen to the former mayor with a recommendation that they paid for, what are the chances they'll listen to you, or us? We need people in power to pitch this somehow
Bull shark s
We already have a facility at Chandler. Upgrade it and stop talking bovine excreta.
Brissy '32 is going to be a shitshow. Old, tired venues and stadiums. No new Gabba, no purpose built aquatic centre etc. An international embarrassment. Not sure about your idea, although anything to get rid of the eyesore that is the maritime museum is ok by me.
There's still time for new facilities to be built! Let's see what happens after the election this year!
@MelPikos Let's hope our government will actually go into development mode and get stuff done. We want to become a world class city, not a world class laughing stock.
As long as it’s ok by you yeah? I don’t think your opinion is going to put a dampener on the whole event. Many host cities have also been left until the months and weeks leading up to the games to rectify facilities. The only embarrassment is your attitude.
Chandler has already been redeveloped so it will be there.
Open water on the Gold Coast.
new stuff is not what makes an olympics great. it's just wasted money. there's a reason brisbane got the olmypics... no one else wants to pay for all this stuff. if the olympics wants to survive, people have to stop expecting new, expensive facilities
I know where it should be built. No destruction or temporary pools and Brisbane would be permanently better of for the location. Very accessible from all directions. Nothing destroyed or knock down. Only all pluses.