Brisbane's Cross River Rail Explained | Talking Tactics with Mel Pikos

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  • Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024

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  • @electro_sykes
    @electro_sykes Год назад +38

    If you think that Cross River Rail and Brisbane Metro is all we need for the Olympics then ur wrong. We need a lot more than just that

    • @becsterbrisbane6275
      @becsterbrisbane6275 10 месяцев назад +9

      The outer suburbs- and defiantly northside- are sooooo neglected! So much more is needed!

    • @CommentsTroll
      @CommentsTroll 10 месяцев назад +1

      yup! More new lines, more upgrades pls. We can't be just repeating our excitement on the 'Metro' and CRR for the last 5 years.

    • @icmull
      @icmull 10 месяцев назад

      Feds just rug pulled us on the funding so probs not going to get much more help. Maybe if Dutton gets in as a Brisbanite he will give us back the funding the feds promised us.

    • @hamishrose2536
      @hamishrose2536 9 месяцев назад +2

      You’re right but it’s definitely a step in the right direction.

    • @keithcolbert3520
      @keithcolbert3520 Месяц назад

      Cross river rail is only the beginning. Next could be Corinda, St Lucia, CBD, New Farm, Bulimba, Doomben. Looping back through Milton to Corinda, or connecting to Airport.

  • @rmar127
    @rmar127 7 месяцев назад +10

    Honestly i think CRR is a great start. However if the state government was serious about creating a world class rail network, it needs to move away from the hub and spoke approach. Imagine a rail line that made cross town connections, linking Cleveland to beenleigh to beaudesert.and onto the future Springfield line extension. A reinstatement of the old beaudesert rail line is an absolute necessity to service the fast growing southwest corridor. There has been too much focus on the inner city and Northside infrastructure projects. It’s about time that the southside and west got some love and attention.

  • @forthecreators4604
    @forthecreators4604 Год назад +10

    I googled sim city tutorials and now I’m addicted to these videos haha

    • @Dim-yz6wk
      @Dim-yz6wk Месяц назад

      Gorgeous! 😂😂😍

  • @paulfri1569
    @paulfri1569 Год назад +19

    Need rail urgently at Chermside and Carindale...

    • @ItzWindyyy
      @ItzWindyyy Год назад

      Bus network reliability imo out those 2

    • @paulfri1569
      @paulfri1569 Год назад +3

      @@ItzWindyyy Until you have a traffic jam 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @electro_sykes
      @electro_sykes Год назад +1

      Yeh well Southside residents prefer public transport but Northside prefer driving so road upgrades

    • @electro_sykes
      @electro_sykes Год назад +3

      They really need a combined double deck Road/Rail tunnel under Gympie Road

    • @Dim-yz6wk
      @Dim-yz6wk Месяц назад +1

      So true!

  • @gnhansen29
    @gnhansen29 Год назад +5

    It's an exciting project IMHO.

  • @will_274
    @will_274 Год назад +8

    Interesting. Ipswich has a win by the looks of it. We can go straight to the airport without changing.

    • @electro_sykes
      @electro_sykes Год назад +3

      after a late night flight, you get Jetlagged and fall asleep on the Airtrain. Then you eventually wake up with Junkies on your train and find out you ended up all the way in Ipswich.

  • @ch64621
    @ch64621 16 дней назад

    Greetings from Vanuatu. I am a fan of your channel. Brisbane is a cool city, I am glad to see it moving forward since I was there during school days. I actually like this development compared to the Queens Wharf Casino although it would be interesting to see what regular commuters on the Brisbane Airport - Gold Coast line will think of the change.

  • @ItzWindyyy
    @ItzWindyyy Год назад +11

    Not just unlocking bottleneck but enable extension to Cooly, Maroochy, Beaudesert lines as well as Ippy loop (Ripley) & mayyyybeee new stations at places like Samford, Redland bay/Victoria Point & DFO, the cruise terminal (assuming thry sort the issue with runway crossing). Also Alderley-Bald Hills link to pave way for outer suburb orbital line to include Bracken Ridge,, The Gap, Tennyson, etc....

    • @electro_sykes
      @electro_sykes Год назад +4

      can't they just extend the existing Pinkemba/Doomben line to the Cruise terminal and give the entire line an upgrade. Be so much cheaper and maybe also build a spur to Hamilton. Doomben line passengers have been crying out for better service for years.

    • @ItzWindyyy
      @ItzWindyyy Год назад

      @@electro_sykes could see be turned into a loop line linking cruise terminal doen to hamilton then doomben etc

    • @TOTN17
      @TOTN17 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@electro_sykes There doesn't look like there would be enough room to take the line further then Pinkenba Village but the line was built with provisions to double track the line

    • @ownyourcrazy8734
      @ownyourcrazy8734 Месяц назад

      The journey between the International Cruise terminal and Brisbane City is sad.
      Plus, people disembarking have a wonderful view of the Brisbane sewerage treatment plant.
      Though the line has closed to suburban travellers, I believe the corridor remains for industrial use. The logistics of a rail link could still be problematic.

    • @ItzWindyyy
      @ItzWindyyy Месяц назад +1

      @@ownyourcrazy8734 yea. The airport line needs a makeover to.enable access to cruise terminal. If built right you can bridge over taxiways but really dont think you can build over runways

  • @electro_sykes
    @electro_sykes Год назад +13

    I actually influenced the idea for shading the colours differently at each station. My original proposal was to colour code each station in different indigenous artworks that mimic the area the station serves.

  • @ownyourcrazy8734
    @ownyourcrazy8734 Месяц назад

    I wonder how different things would be if Clem7 was a traffic and busway tunnel and the bus way beside the rail corridor between South Bank and Roma Street stations was an all rail corridor.

  • @thewetwombat7726
    @thewetwombat7726 2 месяца назад +1

    No doubt woolloongabba needed a station and the bottle neck needed to be addressed.
    But will going from Gold Coast to Brisbane now not cross through south bank and south Brisbane station? It appears so. Currently south bank and south Brisbane (cultural centre bus station) are by far the easiest change over points from bus to train, bus to bus etc for the southern suburbs. For example 111, 120, 175 all popular southern bus routes all terminate at different end points Roma street, queen street, and ballow street but all run through south bank and cultural centre making it very easy to interchange. I guess the proximity of south Brisbane station to the merivale bridge may make it extremely difficult to resolve the bottle neck issue. But if possible surely it was better to keep the line going through south bank (again, if possible).
    I also acknowledge you mentioned an upgrade to metro services in woolloongabba which may resolve my concerns in future but that would require adding or editing multiple current bus routes.

  • @rafski420
    @rafski420 11 месяцев назад +19

    Brisbane needs about 15 more train stations in places that's not the Gabba or around CBD

    • @becsterbrisbane6275
      @becsterbrisbane6275 10 месяцев назад

      Amen!

    • @Jack-pz4my
      @Jack-pz4my 3 месяца назад

      Good luck managing to find the space to accommodate them.

    • @rafski420
      @rafski420 3 месяца назад

      @@Jack-pz4my and do you think finding space at the gabba or around the cbd is easier? nice comment dickhead 🤡

    • @rafski420
      @rafski420 3 месяца назад

      @@Jack-pz4my it would definitely be easier than the gabba or around the cbd. we already have central, roma street, south brisbane, southbank and the valley, which some have easily accessible bus stations nearby. sometimes you gotta look at the whole picture rather than being quick to reply something negative.
      next time use your brain and don't be a dickhead🤡

    • @Dim-yz6wk
      @Dim-yz6wk Месяц назад

      I'd love a Kangaroo point subway station. The views of the city, river and sunsets is unparalleled. Plus I live right on the cliffs 😍🥰👌

  • @Dim-yz6wk
    @Dim-yz6wk Месяц назад

    Love your Brizzie vids. Thank you!!!

  • @stephendutton2279
    @stephendutton2279 Месяц назад

    The cross river rail project will improve transportation services and finally inter-great buses with trains and the city metro will further expand services to allow more access to premium services to and from the city . The airport train line currently is a separate line to the main line services . If the proposal to make the airport train line run from the airport to the Gold Coast causing congestion on the main line services this will slow the frequency of daily services currently available. I believe the Airport train line remain as is . The more efficient route of main line services will than be faster. Less confusing crossing over tracks will make the trains run smoothly .

  • @TylerSmith-hd8tb
    @TylerSmith-hd8tb 2 месяца назад +1

    What I don't understand though is why cant the QLD gov just redesign the Merivale bridge and make it wider?

  • @MrRmano13
    @MrRmano13 Год назад +7

    Its a good start but it really only services areas that have good public transportation…there needs to be an east west tunnel running from say intro to the airport crossing the river multiple times..needs to then have the same tunnel come down from the north. If you want to remove car movements you need to make more direct and convenient ways to us public transport..we need to and should spend another 20 billion if that’s what it takes to upgrades brassy train network…the world will laugh at our city during the Olympics…this project should have been started back in 2010 but bloody politics got in the way of doing the right thing for the ppl of Brisbane…

    • @jayfielding1333
      @jayfielding1333 Год назад

      The very initial plans for the next major Brisbane rail line are for a metro from Toowong via West End, the City, Kangaroo Point, New Farm, Bulimba to Brisbane Airport.

    • @electro_sykes
      @electro_sykes Год назад

      @@jayfielding1333 actually, the plan has been altered to include two metro lines. The one you were talking about and another one that goes from Capalaba to Northside via the NWTC. This will be called the Subway or MRT, not Metro as metro is already the misleading name for a fancy bus

  • @mrbaker1739
    @mrbaker1739 2 месяца назад +1

    The rock under the Brisbane CBD and surrounds is 10 times harder than reinforced concrete. Subsequently tunnelling in Brisbane is more expensive than say tunnelling through Sydney sandstone.

  • @georgemarshall5374
    @georgemarshall5374 5 месяцев назад +1

    I think Brisbane rail system should be much bigger and better it needs so much more work on it just like Sydney has done Brisbane needs to do the same as Sydney because it’s a great idea and it’s worth every penny

  • @liamthompson9342
    @liamthompson9342 3 месяца назад

    The main problem I perceive with our rail network is reliability. A splash of rain and the whole thing shuts down, leaving everyone stranded. It doesn't seem like XRR is even claiming to mitigate that. It will shuttle more passengers - when it happens to be working.

    • @catprog
      @catprog 2 месяца назад

      The main problem is roma st to fortutude valley. Their are only 4 tracks and everyone has to use them. XRR will not be using these tracks and bypasses this.

  • @jongun65
    @jongun65 6 дней назад

    BaT tunnel was superior. We now have a rubber tyred “metro” to cope with Victoria bridge capacity. Could have solved both problems at half the cost. Why did it not go ahead? Because the wrong unions had a say. The extra mode of transport will annoy people who used to have direct bus routes and privilege the few in range of the “metro”. BaT was designed by engineers, CRR by unions.

  • @johnks6733
    @johnks6733 Месяц назад

    When I was young there was at least 2 rail crossing in the CBD. They were for Brisbane’s Tram system until some idiot decided that busses would be better. Then there were no rail crossings in the CBD
    I watched the Merrivale bridge being bult & now I’m watching the cross river tunnel being built. It should improve public transport in Brisbane.
    As for the bendy busses, sorry Brisbane Metro I think Light rail would have been better
    It may have been possible to extend south & join the Gold Coast Light Rail Bringing SE QLD into the 19th century

  • @zanzah_
    @zanzah_ 9 месяцев назад +1

    CBD needs 3 or 4 stations at LEAST to track with projected growth

  • @electro_sykes
    @electro_sykes Год назад +4

    What about fixing the bottleneck between Central and Northgate

    • @electro_sykes
      @electro_sykes Год назад +1

      That’s where the Gympie Road Rail/Road tunnel would come in I guess

    • @MelPikos
      @MelPikos  Год назад

      I'm looking at making a video on this soon!

    • @electro_sykes
      @electro_sykes Год назад +1

      @@MelPikos yeh I came up with a Road/Rail tunnel idea under Gympie Road, because it is missing link in both the Northsides Rail & also their road network

    • @electro_sykes
      @electro_sykes Год назад

      @@MelPikos Albion station badly needs an Upgrade. Makes no sense that it wasn't included in CRR when their is a lot of Transit Oriented Development around the station and yet it has poor accessibility. I also think they needs to be a shopping complex above

    • @becsterbrisbane6275
      @becsterbrisbane6275 10 месяцев назад

      OMG yes, it's so painful (Northsider here)!

  • @ownyourcrazy8734
    @ownyourcrazy8734 Месяц назад

    Much has changed since this video was made. The Gabba Stadium rebuild has been sunk and it could take another change of government to sort out the ideas bottleneck.

  • @JamesFFiT
    @JamesFFiT Год назад +1

    But also means the first stop after exhibition station will be eagle junction station. Trains from Goldie and Springfield up to Caboolture and Redcliffe currently use platforms 3&4 at Albion and go past as express trains. Are they changing it so those stop at albion and wooloowin? The maps dont seem to show the new line stops there which would be a missed opportunity for the inner north but the manoeuvre from the left to the right is true. The only way around it is to stop the trains at Albion as well. Otherwise we have no way to transfer to the new line any closer inbound than eagle junction and would have to go all the way inbound to Roma street to transfer to get to the Gold Coast! Albert street station will be useless for the inner north residents. Southside got all the upgrades! Hurry up and upgrade Albion. The budget papers say 2025 or 2026 or still years away!Seems stupid to upgrade exhibition then run it express to eagle junction! Anyway Rant over lol good for outer commuters coming in though! Bring on a new rail tunnel north under Brisbane for the Sunshine Coast rail line. They need it up there badly. Car is king currently.

    • @electro_sykes
      @electro_sykes Год назад

      Why not upgrade Albion stadion

    • @electro_sykes
      @electro_sykes Год назад +2

      But that will slow down my journey on the Caboolture line. I am already pissed that I now need to change trains to get to Milton

    • @JamesFFiT
      @JamesFFiT Год назад

      @@electro_sykesthey are but not for a few years.

    • @JamesFFiT
      @JamesFFiT Год назад

      @@electro_sykesyeh true.

    • @electro_sykes
      @electro_sykes Год назад

      Why it badly needs an upgrade with transit oriented development already around it. Also, considering Toombul shopping centre closed forever since the floods, it would make sense to build a new shopping centre above Albion station @@JamesFFiT

  • @electro_sykes
    @electro_sykes Год назад +7

    Gold Coast will get a tram to their airport

    • @jayfielding1333
      @jayfielding1333 Год назад +1

      The Gold Coast Line will also be extended to the airport from Varsity Lakes.

    • @electro_sykes
      @electro_sykes Год назад +1

      @@jayfielding1333 well it was suppose to but Corporate wankers at Brissbane airport are opposing it cos they are worried more airlines will then switch to Gold Coast airport with one seat ride into brisbane, due to lower landing fees at OOL, particully favoured by low cost airlines

  • @ok-bg1we
    @ok-bg1we Год назад

    Why is logan allways excluded.
    Why even create a logan between gildcoast and brisbane and do nothing to have it more connected.

    • @benpalexander
      @benpalexander Год назад +2

      Two bits of good news for you happening right now... busway is being extended to the Hyperdome and the rail line is being straightened from Kuraby to Woodridge along with a level crossing removal 👌👌 Would love to see Mel do a video on these upgrades and indeed what that opens up for Logan.

    • @FLAME4564
      @FLAME4564 11 месяцев назад

      most likely if u look at the line map u might see the Goldcoast and Beenleigh lines and somewhere logan might be there on one of them i suspect most likely on the Gold Coast line if not possibly the Beenleigh one then again mabey the Gold Coast one idk i have now knowledge of either of those lines myself :3

  • @becsterbrisbane6275
    @becsterbrisbane6275 10 месяцев назад +1

    I just loooove how all these projects really only serve the precious 10km radius of the city. Most actually live OUTSIDE this radius, and god help you if there's a "police incident" say beyond Northgate station (which is usually the case), as there's NO buses as a replacement to/ from the city beyond Bald Hills. No train, you're on your own. And Roma Street right now feels a bit like the portal Craig Na Dun in "Outlander"- you never know where you're going to come out of!!!

    • @Shermos
      @Shermos 10 месяцев назад +4

      As said in the video, but perhaps not explained clearly enough, the rail bridge over the Brisbane river is a massive bottleneck which reduces the amount of trains which can run on the entire South East QLD network. A lot of suburban lines cannot run at their full capacity because of this bottleneck. Cross River Rail will mean there will be more frequent services for everywhere at least as far north as Caboolture. It will also open opportunity for double tracking the line to Nambour and for the planned Sunshine Coast line. There are also plans to extend the Springfield line which will benefit from Cross River Rail

    • @zanzah_
      @zanzah_ 9 месяцев назад

      Serious. I live at Toombul 15mins from the city and can barely get a train cuz everything is geared towards express trains for those 25km plus

  • @peteregan3862
    @peteregan3862 3 месяца назад

    Another spaghetti network. What metropolitan areas need are commuter rail GRIDs for good coverage of the population and work areas. Grids, by definition, provide alternate paths during breakdowns, incidents and maintenance.

  • @electro_sykes
    @electro_sykes Год назад +3

    The south gets more rail but the Northside prefers driving

    • @woodvineandco
      @woodvineandco 8 месяцев назад +3

      Lol. Prefers driving? We just don't have good options. I'd love to drive less.

    • @sakarkolachhapati9793
      @sakarkolachhapati9793 6 месяцев назад

      Which parts are north?

  • @natesnautical
    @natesnautical 10 месяцев назад +1

    horrible opening music

  • @Degjoy
    @Degjoy Год назад +3

    Even though Australia is much much richer, Finland has eradicated homelessness, whereas Australia hasn’t. Australia has nationwide, huge practically empty buildings, with expensive interiors and wasteful construction. There are enormous problems with drug taking, mental health issues and inequality. A new Amnesty International report has described Australia's human rights record as "embarrassing".

    • @woofwoof9667
      @woofwoof9667 Год назад

      I live here and you are 100% right.

    • @electro_sykes
      @electro_sykes Год назад +1

      Use the old Myer space to house the homeless. Sure it would put it into good use, even if it’s only temporary

    • @carisi2k11
      @carisi2k11 Год назад

      But that is only because no one wants to go there except the russians.

    • @catprog
      @catprog 2 месяца назад

      The problem is Australia has most of it's wealth in property. Make it affortable and you lose that wealth. In a way Finaland is actualy more rich.
      Is the myer center suitable for housing? I am thinking of bathrooms and showers for starters.

  • @markspin4596
    @markspin4596 11 месяцев назад +2

    With the rate of immigration this current government is obsessed with, makes you wonder if this project is even worthwhile...

    • @dekumutant
      @dekumutant 6 месяцев назад

      Migration is being heavily curbed now the post covid backlog is done with

  • @peterlewis6836
    @peterlewis6836 11 месяцев назад

    stupid waste of money

    • @dekumutant
      @dekumutant 6 месяцев назад

      Public infrastructure?

  • @pauldiezel4584
    @pauldiezel4584 2 месяца назад +2

    Aspley, McDowall, Albany Creek area is a total public transport dead zone. It needs a big bus hub desperately.

  • @awanasim
    @awanasim 10 дней назад +1

    Rename your channel. Just to "talking tactics" please, you can have your own name in the logo. But as a channel name it too long and catchy. Sorry Mel

  • @electro_sykes
    @electro_sykes Год назад +4

    Honestly think about long term over the costs

    • @FLAME4564
      @FLAME4564 11 месяцев назад

      as in long term maintanence? i bet Translink, QLR and the Department of Transport are gonna take that into account too.

  • @egypthobby
    @egypthobby Год назад +5

    Makes me wonder if the airport air-train will reduce their costs if it is going to be more integrated into the systems. Whenever my family use the airport we always drive as the airport airway tickets are too expensive.

    • @MelPikos
      @MelPikos  Год назад +3

      Doubtful, but we can always hope!

    • @TOTN17
      @TOTN17 Год назад +2

      ​@@MelPikosState Government was looking into ending the privatisation of the Airport Line Early a while back but not much has been said about it recently

    • @jayfielding1333
      @jayfielding1333 Год назад +2

      The Airport Line becomes state owned in 2036.

    • @electro_sykes
      @electro_sykes Год назад +2

      @@TOTN17 The same company that makes money from Airtrain also make money from the Airportlink & the Gateway Bridge and all the other Toll Roads across Greater Brisbane. Transurban does have quite a monopoly on access to the Airport.

    • @FLAME4564
      @FLAME4564 11 месяцев назад

      @@electro_sykes I agree I think theres a reason for having this Train to the airport was to ease the strain and congestion on the Gateway airport toll road thats been happening cause trust me i traveling with my father sometimes by car down the Bruce Highway have often been stuck in traffic have always suspected its beenc cuz of this Gateway (toll Road Airport Link and having a direct Station to the airport would be useful in easing the Gateway Tollroad Conjestion and allowing them to make money much easier and faster while using the airport train at the same time

  • @lis819
    @lis819 3 месяца назад +1

    Nothing for Redland Bay, then. New developments around here every two shakes of a lambs tail, but no rail or additional bus lines. Just so long as the well heeled yuppies in the city centre have yet another means of public transport.

    • @catprog
      @catprog 2 месяца назад

      Question where would the redland bay train stop in the CBD? If you want more trains from the suburbs to the city you need to increase the amount of trains in the city.

  • @duanewalker8925
    @duanewalker8925 20 дней назад

    The main motivation for CRR seems to be to deliver handouts to the CFMEU. The business case said there would be and extra 30,000 trips per day. Spending $6 billion to earn $60,000 per day!

  • @ownyourcrazy8734
    @ownyourcrazy8734 Месяц назад

    I feel that the issue that prevents trains continuing direct from the Gold Coast to Brisbane Airport is a design fault that should have been identified and overcome.

  • @aussiebloke51
    @aussiebloke51 6 месяцев назад

    All rather underwhelming! Where is the building of circle lines to allow cross suburban travel?

  • @freibuis
    @freibuis 3 месяца назад

    Airport to Gold coast was sold to us as an airport to airport service in the future. which never happened

  • @fletchy40
    @fletchy40 11 месяцев назад +1

    Will the Gold Coast Line eventually expand itself down to Coollongatta Airport?

    • @91Caesar
      @91Caesar 10 месяцев назад +1

      Yes*
      The long term intent is to progress the line from it's current terminus at Varsity Lakes to the Coollongatta Airport. This was true back when the terminus was Robina and plans were underway to extend to Varsity Lakes. However, there is no clear timeline, budget or major commitment to actually enacting this. It's less a promise and more an ambition. Hypothetically any new government could quite easily decide they are going to abandon any plans to one day develop the route, only to lose the next election and have the new new government recommit to it. Any extension past Varsity Lakes simply isn't close enough to actually happening for it to be anything more then a handwave one way or the other right now.
      That said I don't think there is any risk of the concept of heavy rail to Coollongatta Airport ever being abandoned. It is broadly accepted that it will happen one day by a majority of the public, the politicians and the business interest involved, so it is unlikely to ever be completely dropped. There is just a lot of 'When' and 'How' that needs to be locked in.

  • @steviev1422
    @steviev1422 6 месяцев назад

    is it free?

  • @gonegahgah
    @gonegahgah 2 месяца назад

    What happened to a replacement Loganlea Station???

  • @markshinnawi7477
    @markshinnawi7477 4 месяца назад

    looking 4ward to it

  • @rberjaya
    @rberjaya 5 месяцев назад

    Cross River rail and the Metro are only connect a few suburbs in the inner city, that's definitely not enough. We need more train lines with affordable price to connect suburbs to cdb to solve congestion problem. Population is growing and train lines is not growing fast enough.

    • @catprog
      @catprog 2 месяца назад

      The problem is you can't run many more trains through the city. Their are only 4 lines between Roma St and Fortitude Valley. If you want more trains you need to have more lines through the city.

  • @electro_sykes
    @electro_sykes Год назад +2

    Why don’t they upgrade Albion station as part of the works. The Southside gets all the investment

  • @ahbudbudberdi
    @ahbudbudberdi 8 месяцев назад +1

    Gold Coast airport is about to get its own light rail, no need for a direct train from Brisbane airport to the Gold Coast anymore

    • @Steve-007
      @Steve-007 20 дней назад

      1. That's not happening time soon, especially with the C'wealth Govt concerned about the $8billion price tag. 2. The proposed light rail does not go to OOL, but leaves pax on the GC Hwy about 1 km from the OOL terminal, forcing some sort of shuttle arrangement. 3. The light rail is incredibly slow. 4. If you look at any city in the world where both light and heavy rail serve the main airport (e.g., LHR), heavy rail is far faster and more efficient.