Brisbane Cross River Rail Explained | Mayne Yard North, Exhibition Station, Northern Tunnel Portal
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- Опубликовано: 25 июн 2024
- In this video, I'll start with a quick overview of the Cross River Rail Project, and explain why its needed.
You'll then see a new bridge being built at Breakfast Creek, and the new maintenance facility at Mayne Yard North that opened in early 2023.
I'll explain the changes at Mayne Yard East and reveal how the Cross River Rail Lines will pass through this area.
I then cover the new rail bridge that has been built for Exhibition Station, and the significant track changes that have happened on either side of this bridge. I'll also explain the design of the new Exhibition Station and how it will work.
Next is the Northern Tunnel Portal where the Cross River Rail lines go underground. You'll see some wonderful views of this tunnel portal and I'll explain the new tracks being built around it.
I finish off by showing you what is above the tunnels on the approach to Roma Street Station.
* Chapters *
0:00 Introduction to Cross River Rail
2:02 Albion to Breakfast Creek (including new bridge)
3:48 Mayne Yard North
5:17 Mayne Yard East
8:45 Bowen Hills to Exhibition
12:17 Old Exhibition Station
15:40 New Exhibition Station
20:01 Track Layout around Bowen Bridge Road
22:32 Rail corridor along Inner City Bypass
25:19 Northern Tunnel Portal
27:27 Inner and Outer Bypass Lines
28:46 Non Cross River Rail trains using Cross River Rail tracks
29:41 Tunnel Alignment to Roma Street Station.
* Mentioned in this video *
Maps from Queensland State Development Website (These are known as General Arrangement Drawings)
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Old Exhibition Overview by Steve came from his Brand New Exhibition Cross River Rail Station - Demolition and Construction Update video - • Brand New Exhibition C...
Also check out Steve's Technology and Transit RUclips Channel for all other Cross River Rail Updates / @stevestechandtransit
Building A New Bridge At Exhibition by Cross River Rail (includes bridge construction information) - • Building A New Bridge ...
Exhibition Station video tour by Cross River Rail - • Exhibition Station vid... l
One of the Northern Tunnel Portal views with track came from the Construction Update: Cross River Rail Underground Sites - Plus Boggo Road Bridge, Dutton Park video on Steve's Technology and Transit RUclips Channel - • Construction Update: C...
Cross River Rail Part 2 - • Brisbane Cross River R...
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Cross River Rail Website - crossriverrail.qld.gov.au/
includes Satallite Map of Cross River Rail Route, Exhibition Station Aerial Map, and all Exhibition Station artist impression images.
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Well done so excited to see you show casing Brisbane 🎉😂
Thanks Steve, glad you enjoyed it! Yes it's an interesting city and I plan to go back in July to film part 3 and perhaps some other things too.
*Paul! Please, shoot footage of the Metro Central Station site in the aftermath of the massive fire which destroyed the former RC Henderson hat heritage factory on Randall St. It would be interesting to learn of your observations and thoughts. Thanks.*
That video will be out tomorrow (Sunday!)
Outstanding Paul, thank you. Good to see you have finished in Melbourne. Enjoy your future northern journeys.
Thanks Jack, Glad you enjoyed it! Yes will do, although I think my next video will be a Sydney one!
Thanks for your exceptionally professional explanation of the Cross River Rail project. As a railfan living in Brisbane, and I usually drive through the Inner City Bypass several times a week, I couldn't get fully understand what these tracks do in the past years until watching this video.
You're very welcome! Glad it's making sense to you now. You can see a fair amount from the Inner City Bypass.
Great job on these videos about Cross River Rail Paul! Very informative and detailed. You've a got a perfect voice suitable for voice overs too!
Thanks! I appreciate your feedback and glad you like my voice!
Awesome video Paul, great you've been able to have a such a detailed and informative look at this! Glad you've found my construction progress update videos useful, many more to come in the future!
Thanks Steve, those maps helped a lot and I've just realised that all content of the state development website is under a creative commons license! Yes looking forward to more of your updates.
Thanks Paul, a very thorough update. Especially welcome since I live 100m from Roma St Station and so I’m very much looking forward to part 2 😊
You're very welcome Paul, and great to hear that you live so close to Roma Street Station. If you have any recent footage of the current work at Roma Street or a clip of the Sydney XPT departing, then do let me know via paul@transportvlog.com - A few things are happening in Sydney right now, so Part 2 will now be in July.
Good grief, a massive amount of work!
Yes absolutely!
WOW! Thank you Paul. Keenly following your Sydney updates as I lived there for 9 years.
Now entering my 7th year living on the Gold Coast and often travel to Brisbane, really excited to have you as my update guide!
You're very welcome Thomas! Glad you enjoyed a video close to your neck of the woods! I'm looking forward to doing the Gold Coast line on my next visit and perhaps taking a ride on the light rail system too!
@@TransportVlog I think you'll love the light rail - we call it the G. And of course (like I need to tell you), it's also being extended south towards the GC Airport. Shoot me if I'm wrong, but nothing as exciting as heavy rail extensions.
Really excellent work mate! Thanks so much :)
Thanks Jonathan, glad you enjoyed it.
excellent work mate. Look forward to the next episode :)
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it.
Wow, didn’t know how complicated the works are on the Exhibition loop.
Yes, apparently its one of the most complex rail projects that have ever been done in in Queensland!
@@TransportVlogHi Paul. New viewer here. Fantastic vlog. I have learnt so much about my city. Will Exhibition station be used like a regular station or will it remain just for the Ekka?
you are a legend mate, I pass this twice every work day and wasn't up with it all until I watched your video.
Thanks Ben! Glad you now know what is going on.
This is brilliant. I go past all these places a lot and every time I'm trying to guess what they're up to. Now I have more of an idea.
Thanks Liam, Glad it helped you understand what is going on. Not sure if you've seen part 2 as yet. Here is the link to it if you haven't - ruclips.net/video/Nnmy8IuqAzo/видео.html
Hi Paul,
I’ve been keeping my eyes on this project for a while. I was hoping you would do something on this new build. Can’t wait for part 2 and 3. I always enjoy watching your clear-cut videos. Well done.
Thanks Glen, glad you're enjoying my videos. I've already started working on Part 2! It's an interesting project and it's great that it has an above ground section!
Excellence video. Thanks for putting this together!
You're very welcome Liam
Great video, thank you for sharing.
You're very welcome David
Ehat a great video, cant wait for the next one
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it.
Thanks Paul for this vid you show so much detail as you did on the Chatwood works thanks once again.
You're very welcome, glad you enjoyed it!
Very comprehensive thanks Paul!
Thanks Paul - glad you enjoyed it.
So excited!! Brisbane’s my home base at the moment
That's great. Good to hear that Brisbane is home for you right now!
That's an awesome video Paul! Also, thanks for sharing the video about part 1 of Cross River Railway and surround in the Brisbane area. Can't wait for Parts 2 & 3 to come in the future! ;)
Thanks Peter, glad you enjoyed it. Hope to have Part 2 out later in June, and Part 3 (which requires another trip to Brisbane) in July or August. Hope you can wait till then 🙂
The Exhibition line was frormed into a loop when the Brisbane City Tunnel Opened in 1890.
Thanks for that Ethan
Paul. You have done it again. Not being a local I could never get my head around CRR…but thanks to you and your new northern correspondent, I get it now. Ps This video lifts your production values to a new high.
Thanks Graham, Glad CRR now all makes sense! Yes the production gets a little bit better each time as I discover new tricks with Final Cut Pro!
Another thoroughly covered and excellent vlog Paul. I know even less about Queensland than Victoria, so it was very informative indeed. Very well done. Lynette
Thanks Lynette, glad you enjoyed it. I know very little about this until I started researching it after my trip there in December.
Brilliant video, well done.
Thanks Frank. glad you enjoyed it.
Welcome to Brisbane
Thanks!
Love your attention to detail here Paul, and your dedication to travelling to your subject destinations!
Thanks! - The travelling is the fun part, and I enjoy going out and exploring new places.
Hi Paul, thanks for sharing a very interesting video about the Brisbane cross river rail line. When this is completed, Brisbane will have a underground rail area similar to that in Sydney and Melbourne. I gather when the old Exhibition station was not in use, trains just passed it without stopping on their journeys. I can't remember seeing it when up in Brisbane back in August 1973., though back in those days, Roma Street lines and South Brisbane lines were not even connected. Anyway, take care. Rob in Melbourne Australia.
Hi Rob, yes that's right, although there is already a small underground section from just before Fortitude Valley to just after Central Station. I think that opens in 1978, along with the Merivale Bridge and the line to South Brisbane. The Exhibition Loop doesn't have any regular suburban trains, which is the main reason that Exhibition Station didn't have a regular service. Regional trains past through, but they don't stop at any of the suburban stations anyway!
Great video. Well done.
Thanks Dylan
Thanks for this video was very interesting
Glad you enjoyed it
brilliant work! i still can't get my head around up and down lines!
Thanks Ralph, yes it can be confusing. I often used Northbound and Southbound instead, but I wanted to match the labels on the maps. It gets even more confusing on the south side, as you'll find out when I release Part 3.
Great Video Paul next time you are up this way you should check out the Light Rail on the Gold Coast
Yes absolutely, its on the list!
At 3.47, thats a rake of ballast wagons, and the yellow "loco" is actually a ballast plough. My brother used to work at the old Mayne yards, back in the steam days, around 55 years ago. I now work on the CQCN.
Interesting! Thanks for that. Good to hear that you're now working on the CQCN.
you should go to Gold Coast because of the stage 3 construction of light rail between broadbeach south to burleigh heads?, yes but still ulitily relocations at the moments.
I was in the Gold Coast over Easter, and I did notice some of the work taking place. I'd quite like to do a video on the Gold Coast light rail, but probably the bit that's already in service.
One note, Brisbane's show is officially called the Brisbane Exhibition, known as the Ekka, and that is what the station is named after, not the showgrounds.
Thanks for that Jay, I think I got my information from Wikipedia, which isn't always right!
I've been waiting for a video about this from your channel for so long, Thankyou so much for doing it 😁
You're very welcome. Glad you enjoyed it. Part 2 will be out later in June, after a couple of Sydney Central Station videos.
Exhibition _did_ have a regular passenger service, but it was so long ago that there is no living memory of it. Between 1882 (when the Sandgate line opened) and 1890 (when the direct line from Brisbane Central to Mayne was opened) the "Exhibition Loop" was the only track to the north.
Bowen Park opened with the line, and was renamed as Exhibition in 1885.
So it was possible to catch regular passenger trains to Exhibition station for five years!
Wow!, so Exhibition did have a regular service along long time ago! Thanks for sharing that.
Good video and used to work mayne carriage shed north and left 10 years ago. Those two tracks you didn't know are called inner and outer balloon that are going to be removed.
Thanks Wayne, Thanks for letting me know the names of those two tracks. Great to hear that you used to work there. It must be going through quite a transformation at the moment!
Thanks mate. So very informative. Looking forward to parts 2 & 3 in due course. Cheers
You're very welcome Greg. Glad you enjoyed it. Hoping to complete Part 2 during June.
One thing I wish you had mentioned was that the new rail yard in Albion actually creates a dam which prevents the drainage of water from the breakfast creek flood zone, specifically Windsor park which was decimated in the floods in 2022
I wasn't aware of that.
One major criticism I have of this part of the project is that there is no attempt to connect the new Exhibition station with the hospitals and medical/education precinct just 200m away. At 21:08 you can see the station bottom right, and the busway top left. Several of Queensland's major hospitals and medical facilities are on the other side of the busway, and a path or ramp between these would have massively increased the amenity of the station at (presumably) a reasonable cost. As far as I know, no reasons have been presented for why this hasn't happened.
Cost. It's the same reason why they have avoided doing everything else they could have done at the other stations. Boggo Road underground station was originally going to have a direct connection to the park road station platforms, they got rid of that. Albert street station was originally going to have several entrances up and down Albert street, they got rid of that and now it only has one at each end of the station (which isn't actually that bad). Roma Street was originally going to have underground bus platforms, to replace the existing ones. They got rid of them. The southern entrance to the CRR was originally going to be two separate tunnels to allow for different non-conflicting operations with the 3 tracks to the south, now it has the one tunnel with two tracks and trains on the western track can't get into the CRR while allowing trains on the centre track to continue to park road. In fact trains on the Western track can't get into the CRR at all, unless they are moved to platform 2 at Dutton park before the station. (I am not sure whether this is permanent but seems pretty stupid.
See new "Pedestrian and bike connection" to the existing underpass next to the hospital at 19:57
Honestly, the station should have been rerouted to the hospital, and then people could walk from there to the Ekka. It's a potentially useful station in entirely the wrong spot.
@Secretlyanothername yes I agree I’ve found little on it. There is a bridge connection costing $8m in the budget from the station to Gregory terrace, but why not directly across the park and over to the busway station which will be a metro station. They are spending half a billion at connecting the train to metro station at the Gabba but nothing on the Northside regarding an easy transfer/connection. From the plans I’m not even confident CRR trains will stop at Albion! 2 stops away from Roma or 3 from Adelaide St but time will tell. Looks like they go express to Eagle Junction on the CRR map!
The RBWH busway station needs a direct connection across the park to Exhibition Station considering Brisbane Metro will terminate here. I don’t believe RBWH has enough capacity anyway for being a metro terminus as heaps of people already transfer here on the current bus route 66 which metro will replace and I often wait 2-3 buses between 3-4pm they come past always full of students and no standing room to get on a local bus.
@@newbris that’s not a connection we want a bridge across to the metro being built for the busway station and not needing to cross the busy road twice! A proper link. They are building one to Gregory terrace but still…
Hi Paul tomorrow 29 of May they will open a new section of central station
Yes thats right! I was there today, and asked one of the Sydney Metro workers and that's exactly what he said! There was lots of activity today to get it all finished in time.
Well explained, Paul. I HOPE that train frequencies will increase once CRR opens. Also, I hope that all Ipswich line trains will be expresses. . , , as they will run to the Airport. It is only a matter of whether trains will be every 15 minutes or every 20 minutes, we will find that out, closer to the opening of the CRR!
I belive that is the plan. All stations to Darra then express stopping at Indro, Toowong and Milton - www.tmr.qld.gov.au/About-us/Corporate-information/Publications/SEQ-Rail-Connect
Thanks John, glad you enjoyed it. Yes it should do, especially with ETCS being introduced as well. I believe they are testing this on the Shorncliffe line at the moment. As Tom mentioned below, it looks like Ipswich trains will be express from Darra (it did surprise me that this wasn't the case already when I was in Brisbane).
@tomdavis3942 Thanks for that Tom , I'm going to talk about the service pattern in Part 3, so this plan will come in useful!
@@TransportVlog Sorry Paul, but what does ETCS mean?
I'm sorry? Did you say that the Ipswich line will run to the airport once crossover rail is complete? WillThe Gold Coast line no longer run to the airport? this was the first I had heard of that.
love the video but where’s part 2???
It's nearly finished and will be coming out during the first half of September. I'm doing another trip to Brisbane in a weeks time to get some more up to date footage.
Well done paul, only thing you missed is the ubove ground station rebuilds past the southern portal which steve has covered. All are part of cross river rail so deserve a mention
Hi Bryce, they will be covered in Part 3. I'm looking forward to covering those, and talking about Dutton Park too! - Luckily, I have some footage of the old station from my December trip.
@@TransportVlog cool thanks great to see can't wait
Legendary Paul (and with appropriate nods to Steve)! - I spent my childhood in Brisbane and still remember the transport system very well (albeit it was a bit steamier). Checked out developments at Sydney Central recently. Must do a trip to Brissy for similar in the future - I wonder if the subsequent easing of train traffic across the bridge into Roma Street might allow a more civilised timing of the Sydney-Brisbane service?
Thanks Tacit. Great to hear that you lived in Brisbane as a child. Yes definitely worth a trip. The city is changing a lot, with several new pedestrian river crossings, and the city skyline is pretty impressive now. Possibly! The early start allows it to reach Sydney by around 8pm, so that works well for onward connections. I really want to do the XPT from Brisbane to Sydney, but I'll wait until the summer, as I'm keen to do the first bit in daylight. In the other direction, a good chunk of the trip is overnight, which isn't as much fun!
@@TransportVlog Thanks Paul. I've done the trip in both directions a few times. The section around the border is especially impressive.
I thought the departure time problem was only because of capacity on the shared dual gauge track across the Brisbane River as peak suburban services begin; but looking back at some Railpage forum comments on the topic from 2016 (around when they made the timetable about an hour earlier) it says there is also only a single dual gauge track for many kilometres (albeit with some passing loops). Apparently QLD also use that track for inbound Gold Coast trains, which creates conflicts if the southbound XPT is running even a bit late.
Technically it is possible to connect with the Melbourne XPT, but I think you'd need to be optimistic about on-time running. I've heard some used to transfer at Strathfield to give it a greater margin, but that's no longer possible now the Melbourne XPT goes via Sydenham and Revesby.
For the trip north I always used a sleeper. Nice to wake up just as you are approaching the border loop. In spite of their shortcomings, there's something satisfyingly classical about the XPT. I've always enjoyed my time on them. Have a great time when you do the trip.
I think the new western track is going to be built over, because there is a plan to build a venue above part of Mayne yard, for the 2032 games
They are going to build over Roma street as well. Hopefully they add a new pedestrian bridge to access the different Roma street platforms from above.
@@pwhnckexstflajizdryvombqug9042 They are also rebuilding the busway and coach station underground and a brand new concourse
Which venue is planned over Mayne Yard? I haven't seen any mention of this.
@@newbris it hasn't been confirmed. Who's to say it's even going to happen, it was just shortlisted as a possible location, but they are keeping a lot of these things secret from the public because the state government isn't a big fan of community consultation
@@electro_sykes I thought all the venues had been announced. Which venue are you talking about?
Electric Wires in Brisbane are different at 25 kV and 50 Hz AC which are different to 1500 Volts DC. 25 kV will be use in Sydney on the Sydney Metro Western Sydney Airport Line and Sydney Metro West.
That's right! As their network was electrified more recently, they went for the standard 25Kv AC
the north coast lines between mayne yards and roma street via exhibition are only used for freight and out of service trains, as all passenger trains go via central and roma street
Long Distance Passenger Services heading North also use the Ekka Loop
As @Blood Dragon says, long distance passenger trains also use the Exhibition Loop.
@@TransportVlog well, yeah, they do sometimes use the loop, but with the Cross River Rail construction work, many freight and long-distance passenger trains have had to be diverted via Central
@@TransportVlog looking back, they should have kept the old departure platforms and just made them more accessible. Would have been cheaper and reduced the impact of the cost overuns on the project
When are part 2 and 3 coming out?
Hopefully July for Part 2. I took a break to focus on Sydney Central Station videos, but I'm getting back to working on this video this week.
Mayne north is only for stowing units and the building you see is graffiti shed for qr only. Ngr continue use Wulkaraka and qr units are shunting back to west yard daily for maintenance.
Thanks for clarifying that.
Hi Paul. Any word on the destruction of the new laneway entrance to Central Walk after the fire in Surry Hills. The building collapsed into Randel Lane
Hi Murray, the Chalmers Street Entrance looks pretty intact. I think the only damage is to the air con unit on the roof. I was at Central Station earlier today, but all my usual vantage points on Randal lane were closed off, but I did get some zoomed in footage from further away. It will all be in my next Central Station update which will be out next week.
looking good have they thought of naming the new line yet and what colour it will be on the rail map? maybe Elizabethan line and purple line?
I'm not sure what the plans are regarding naming and colour. I guess we'll find out closer to opening. Perhaps they could call it the Queen Alice line! (Do watch Part 2 if this doesn't make sense 😀
Thank you so much for this. What does Exhibition station being above ground have to do with not having platforms screen doors? Genuinely asking. The Bankstown line is all above ground and is getting them installed currently. Must be even easier for Exhibition since it’s a new station.
Hi Ryan. My understanding is that the doors are provided for a number of purposes. Some of those (like tunnel security, containment of station air conditioning, and reduction of piston effect draughts as trains arrive allowing faster acceleration and deceleration) are only relevant underground; while other reasons (notably edge safety and departure monitoring safety) are relevant everywhere. I believe Brisbane will be using trains with crews on this line, whereas Sydney Metro is all driverless. That means in Brisbane departure safety remains achieved largely through crew monitoring, whereas in Sydney Metro the platform doors and narrow platform gaps achieve a similar effect.
@@tacitdionysus3220 Makes sense. I really appreciate the reply. Cheers.
Great question Ryan, and Tacit has answered this very well. It's definitely more essential for driverless trains such as Sydney Metro. Interesting, the Elizabeth Line in London doesn't have platform screen doors at Custom House, which is the one new above ground station on this line.
@@TransportVlog That is interesting. Where did you hear about that?
Im named Paul also and love rail 😊 Must be a Paul thing 😅
Awesome! Paul is a wonderful name! I've noticed that it's not as common now as it used to be though, which is a shame.
Paul how did the fire on Randle street/lane affect the new entrance of Central Walk ? I saw part of a wall fall on the roof of the new entrance on the lane..
The debris I think has hit the Air Condition unit
Hi Patrick, yes that's right. As Chris says below, it looks like it hit an air con unit. Phil from Sydney Trains Vlogs was at Central Station earlier, said that Central Walk was very smokey, and the Chalmers St entrance is slightly flooded (probably from the water used to extinguish the fire. And there is lots of soot and ash all around.I'll take a wonder over there tomorrow.
@@TransportVlog I Was talking to a Cynical friend about this fire. They said would it not be beneficial to take advantage of this and push the entrance to Central Walk through the site to Randle Street.
When they open the Central Eastern Entrance I don’t think it is feasible to Open Randle St End For Safety and it is a Quiet St and till they work out the Damage to Burnt building and Randle St Entrance
in case you didn't know, stub tunnels have been built to the north of Roma Street to eventually link up to the Proposed Northwest Corridor. There is still a lot of debate about the corridor, as the state government wants a surface-level rail link along it, whilst the council is instead insisting on an underground Toll Highway or busway along the North West Transportation Corridor. Then there is the Federal Government who wants both council and the state government to stop fighting and build a multi-modal corridor. People on the Northside have been furious about it for years and just want the damn thing built, but then they are also the NIMBYs. Personally, I think are multimodal Underground Highway and a surface-level rail and bikeway would be the solution. My reasoning for the North West Transport Corridor to be a multi-modal Underground Highway and Surface Rail Corridor is because the North Coast line is starting to get congested between Strathpine and Albion whilst Gympie Road which links the Airport link Tunnel and Lutwyche Road to the Gateway and Bruce Highway is also getting severely congested. So really, it is a no-brainer.
Are there press releases/any plans showing the stub tunnels? It was my understanding that these were actually scrapped in the final design
Thanks! - I wasn't aware of the stub tunnels, so thanks for mentioning that! ! I'll do some research on this proposed northwest corridor. Does sound like a scheme that is really needed!
Currently there is a big blaze near Chalmer Street in Sydney. There is a real risk of the new station entrance getting damaged.
Any updates if you hear them would be appreciated
It looks like part of a wall hit the Air Con unit on top of the new Chalmers Street entrance. Apparently there is also some minor flooding, probably from the fire hoses. I'll take a look tomorrow. I was planning to do a Central Station update in the next week or two, so there will be a little more to talk about now!
@@TransportVlog insurance job for sure
I thought Cross River Rail was going to use existing Rail line that branches off just north of Bowen Hills
That's the bit with Exhibition Station. Brisbane already has an inner rail loop - one side is the main core section with Roma Street to Bowen Hills. The existing line you mention connects Bowen Hills back to Roma Street, with Exhibition the only station on it. Now that loop is broken, with CRR trains to use the Exhibition side and other lines to use the existing central core. The only new part is the connection from Albion to the Ekka line.
That's what I thought until I found those maps! The CRR alignment around the edges of main yard north and east does make sense though in terms of minimising conflicting movements.
when will Part2 be released?
Probably around mid June. I want to slip in a Sydney video next!
What Electric Wire will Cross River Rail have, 25 kV AC, or 50 Hz AC?
It will be the same as whatever is currently used on the Brisbane Suburban network.
I can't think of a station that has TWO names Park Rd & Boggo Rd
Yes it is a little strange!
No thrill seeking rides on QR? I don't know. I remember Brisbane suburban services in the 80s when you never new what ancient piece of rolling stock you'd be travelling in - including some carriages that were barely holding together. Heaven for a railfan but probably not so much for other people.
Yes, I'm sure some of those old trains added that extra sense of thrill to the journey!
@@TransportVlog lol you obviously haven't been on a train with our fabulous Ben, who sometimes drives the trains from the Redcliffe line, then tells us approaching Northgate to get off if we want to skip work and head to the "beautiful beaches of Shorncliffe' lmho!!
1:58 not entirely true unfortunately.
The new tunnel will be great - but many promised upgrades for the rest of Brisbanes rail network were cancelled or not even planned at all.
Because of this, Cross River rail will not use it's full potential. At some stations the number of trains will even be reduced.
So there is still a LOT to do to catch up to Melbourne or Sydney or even Perth - even with Cross River rail
I've read a pretty detailed article about this some time ago, now I can't find it anymore
So true, I can think of a half dozen projects that would benefit more commuters and the entirety of SE QLD more so than this project.
@@nevyn1854 like what? You think you can have more rail services with only one congested river crossing?
@@JamesFFiT like duplicating the lines out of Brisbane… show me another capital city that has a single line of track running out of the city… on both sides. I live near Beerwah station. I watch multiple freight trains parked everyday waiting for passenger trains to pass.
@@nevyn1854 that section of track desperately needs an upgrade (passing loops, better alignments, duplication) but the cost would be high and the amenity low, compared to unlocking the capacity of the Brisbane network.
@@Secretlyanothername spoken like a true politician. I plan for the future, governments plan… well o am not sure the word “plan” applies. What is the cost of duplication the M1 rather than duplicating a few miles of train track?
Does the Brisbane Line go to Hunter line 😊Paul
No Because the Rail gauge are Different Queensland are narrow 1,067mm and NSW are Standard 1,435mm
@@ranger8237 ok i thought it was on the north coast line
@@BeckhamStocks The Queensland North Coast Line.
@@jayfielding1333 that one goes to Tulara train station where I become single track to Dungog
Hi Beckham, yes it does eventually! It's the big orange line on this map - transportnsw.info/documents/timetables/93-31-North-Coast-NSW-20200524.pdf. It even stops at Maitland!
The fact that they need a facility just for removing graffiti shows how much of a problem it is on our suburban trains here in SEQ...
Yes unfortunately that's the case Jonathan! And its a problem in most major cities in the world! It was particular bad in Melbourne too!
This is the least exciting part of the project, but it's actually the most important part.
Brisbane has five rail lines approaching the CBD from the south providing capacity for 78 trains per hour. But only three of these lines travel over the Merivale Bridge, and thanks to capacity constraints elsewhere on the network, these lines only account for less than 40% of the total capacity (ie 30 trains per hour) from the south and west. Until they fix capacity constraints elsewhere on the southside, Merivale Bridge won't be an enourmous problem.
With 78 trains per hour of capacity from the south and west, and 84 trains per hour of capacity from the north, the real issue is that the city stations only have a capacity of 48 trains per hour (in each direction). This means that even where the outer lines are not capacity constrained, they are still constrained by the lack of train paths through the CBD stations.
At the same time, there is a third pair of tracks connecting the northern half of the network to the southwest part of the network, via Exhibition. But they don't get used by in service trains because any trains coming down the exhibition loop must either a) continue into the city tunnels at Roma Street - reoccupying the space we were trying to free up, or b) turn west towards Milton, bypassing all the main downtown stations (which are the destination of most passengers).
Cross River Rail is largely about finding a way to bring trains down the exhibition line and into the city without blocking up space in the existing city tunnels. The fact that it crosses the river and ultimately emerges at Dutton Park is kinda secondary. I mean, I'm sure they looked into it and realised that they will probably get around to fixing capacity constraints between Park Road and Beenleigh one day, and when that happens, having the new tunnel continue through to the southside will be useful. But until then, the exhibition loop is actually the most relevant part of the project.
Hi Paul,
Thanks for this information and your insights.
You're right, The section from Roma Street to Bowen Hills via Central is the real bottleneck here.
And the Exhibition loop doesn't really help, as it feeds into the same bottleneck at Roma Street, which is why it is only used for regional, freight and out of service trains.
With the southern tunnel portal, I guess it was a case of finding a good place, and the old railway line close to Dutton Park station made sense.
I think serving Woolloongabba was an important requirement too, especially as it will be a venue for the 2032 Olympic games, so that probably factored into the final routing as well.
Thanks for explaining this. It certainly helped improve my understanding of why CRR is being built.
To be honest, I watched the video to get an overview of the project, however you went into some unnecessary detail the average listener doesn't need to know. It felt like I was watching a video for Tafe.
Hi Ben, there is a lot of detail, and many of my viewers like that, but I appreciate that it's not to everyone's taste. I may do a briefer overview in the future. The cross river rail website can give you a good overview of the project - crossriverrail.qld.gov.au/
Lol, there are a great number of deficiencies in the SE QLD rail network that are probably more important than the cross river rail. The fact that there is only a single track running from Kuraby to Beenleigh is a serious bottle neck in the network severely limiting rail travel between the Gold Coast and Brisbane and creating massive road congestion, which the state government plan to fix by duplicating the entire motorway instead of the small stretch of rail line. Any increased capacity at this end of the line will be irrelevant for the majority of the southern end of the network.
The northern line out of Brisbane to the Sunshine Coast and rest of the entire state of Queensland is similarly a single line of track. For over a decade the State government have been "expanding' the duplicated line. The current plan for and additional 10kms or so of duplicated track from Beerburrum to Beerwah has still not seen a single sleeper laid. And even so, the benefits of this small extension are limited at best and accessible to only a small number of commuters. Duplication of the line to larger population areas such as Nambour or even Gympie are not even being considered currently.
Ands the ridiculous idea still being touted, that Queensland can build an entirely new train line from Beerwah to Maroochydore by 2032 in time for the Olympics is the most laughable infrastructure claim I can recall in recent memory.
As with most states, the only projects and people that seem to matter are those in the metropolitan areas. That being said I can see the Victroria's expansion clearly does provide benefits to the system outside of Melbourne itself.
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Not true… they are quad tracking between Kuraby to Beenleigh and realigning an ugly bend too. Finishing in 2028. It is dual track already.
@nevyn1854, The ideal would be 4 tracks all the way to Beenleigh to allow Gold Coast trains to pass the Beenleigh suburban trains. But you do need to increase capacity in the CBD first, otherwise those extra trains will just get stuck closer to the CBD. Track duplication is happening on the north as part of the North Coast Line Capacity Improvement Project - www.queenslandrail.com.au/inthecommunity/projects/north-coast-line-capacity-improvement-project. I'm sure there is more that can be done, but its good to see that some of these other projects are happening.
Thanks @Rtong98 for clarifying that.
@@Rtong98 Yeah, better allingments, moved Loganlea station and Quad tracks from Beenleigh to Kuraby. It will be a little awkward having to link into the 3 track corridor there but if they put in some turnouts between Kuraby and Coopers Plains they can make it work.
@@TransportVlog I live directly on the Sunshine Coast train line. Yes, they have been duplicating 10kms of track… it’s has taken 10yrs since approval and they have still not laid any new tracks, though some preparation work has been started.
The duplication to Beerwah will provide some straightening of the line and increased capacity to Glasshouse Mountains and Beerwah stations, both very small towns. All plans to extend the line further north have been shelved.
I defy anyone to watch freight trains parked at regional rail stations throughout the day… every day… and tell me that this is good enough. But I guess we can keep exporting out fright through Gladstone and the Great Barrier Reef, most people don’t really care about the damage that is doing.
I love your work and your videos… but you should be using you platform to advocate for smarter rail projects instead of just highlighting how wonderful the metro centric ideas are. Yes they are good upgrades and needed, boy does anyone believe they won’t spend more Billions on more metropolitan projects moving forward rather than doing real work of regional rail networks?
Australia’s GDP does not flow from Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane, it’s flows from regional areas throughout the states… yet the government spent Billions on metro projects and pennies on regional projects.