Huge shoutout to d2foundry.gg and Destiny Massive Breakdowns. LISTED BELOW are some Fav Moments and any science CORRECTIONS: (I added Perks Explained Timestamps in description) HIGHLIGHTS I think the sections on Merciless, Pressurized Precision, Telesto, Delicate Tomb, Snorri, and Main Ingredient are all really interesting. (Merciless is out of this world) Also, Burden of Guilt lays out a ton of info on the new patch changes. CORRECTIONS - Epicurean is void. Haha, listen, it's a long script. - Yes, Eremite comes before Epicurean alphabetically. OOPS. Lol. - Some have tried to say Charge Time MW doesn't apply to all, but I have TRIPLE CHECKED THIS. Statements made in the video are true. - Aurvandil FR6 IS THE ONLY High Impact currently available with Swashbuckler. Midha's does not have it, I guess I was thinking of how the old Glacioclasm could roll it. Not anymore!
Haha, I'm sure it'd be a lot easier if I didn't go so in-depth or care about how accurate the info was, but I really wanted to have the best stuff out there!
Oh wow, that breakdown was absolutely amazing. Seriously, every single time I thought you ran out of fusion rifles, you managed to surprise me with ones that I had totally forgotten about. While I was watching, I actually decided to give Snorri a shot (by pure luck, I had the god roll hidden away in my vault). And it was a menace in comp play. I also gave the Merciless a try, and even though it was noticeably slower, the accuracy was incredibly satisfying. I'm going to try to master this one. I just want to thank you for this extended deep dive into fusions. Thank you for sharing your incredibly valuable and detailed perspective.
Love the in-depth review of the weapons. I'm a huge fan of fusions in general and I've been looking for something aside from my Snorri to pair with my Messenger pulse with a better charge time. You've earned yourself a new subscriber. Great work!
Hey thanks for listening! I probably take too much time compared to what it's worth, but I can't help it, I love the deep dives! Glad to have people following who do too!
Plug one adept w/ under pressure, Cartesian with under pressure/vorpal, and timeline’s vertex with firmly planted and elecap. The vertex is my favorite. I’ve never gotten a good roll on a burden of guilt, unfortunately.
The moment I seen you post this video all I could do was think of the Jack Nicolson Yes meme lol. I use to ignore fusions in pvp for so long but your videos over the last year have made me a fan. Thanks for taking the time to put this list together. GGs.
A note on charge time MW not changing damage: > Fixed an issue where the Adept Masterworks and Enhanced Intrinsic perks for Fusion Rifles were decreasing the damage dealt by fusions when they changed the Charge Time stat. its specifically non-CT MWs on adepts/crafted weapons that incidentally shaved a few ms of charge time and damage off that no longer do so (since those are unavoidable changes). a charge time MW itself is still -2% damage
Ah, I'll go back and test this too. I tested on a crafted fusion to make sure it wasn't just adept, didn't realize Bungie made it even MORE confusing than it already was. I was planning on doing a follow up vid anyways due to charge time being so intricate, I'll talk about this too.
@@Legoleflash there's also a possibility that Bungie fixed the adept and enhanced intrinsic exactly like they wrote there, and with it introduced a bug for all CT MW's.
@@BorisZapolsky I doubt that. I see where you're coming from, but the point of it was to mitigate people getting Charge Time MW rolls and then NOT masterworking because of the deficits. They should honestly do the same thing with accelerated and liquid, but that's a video for another day. :)
@@Legoleflash Just pulled out my Snorri with an incomplete charge masterwork, and increasing the masterwork does reduce the impact stat. Too scared to test further because if it lowers damage any further it'll break my god roll - no more 5 bolt kill on 10RES with all 3 HIR bursts.
I love merciless, honestly I don't take full advantage of all its perks its just a fusion that feels REALLY nice and hits at those distances with a lot of forgiveness. Super fun fusion.
@@Legoleflash for sure! I tell my friends about it but no one believes me until I run with them and top frag and then they're all like "Now I gotta try this". Same thing happens with Borealis and Izanagis burden. There are just some sleeper guns that I love running just for the hell of it.
This is a great video for returning players! Being able to get clear and in depth information makes it easy to catch up and understand the meta. I would love to see this type of video done for other weapon types.
One of the most interesting thing about zealots is the way the bolts connect. While rapids like iterative loop will usually hit the first few bolts, they can’t get thrown off by movement and flinch. With zealots, I can hear and see ALL the bolts just connecting. It’s gotta have some sort of unique recoil pattern, even if wall tests don’t show it
I have a VERY high assumption that it's the sound design and look of the bolts. There is just something that makes you play better when it sounds like you're playing better!
@@Legoleflash it’s gotta be more than the sound, it’s just too damn good. As an aside, I think we would love an in depth guide on invis. You’ve used it consistently and successfully despite some pretty significant nerfs, and a breakdown video would be great to learn how you’ve adapted
@@jordanfan8222 if I hadn't talked to actual devs at bungie, I'd be leaning that way too about it! But no one seems to think there is anything there stat wise! with the invis... I could, but I'm not sure I want to unleash that upon the sandbox 😅😅 we'll see
Just want to say after looking for some other tier lists on other weapons that your videos in general and this tier list video too is above and beyond any tier list video for Destiny 2 (and probably any tier list in general) I’ve ever seen. The data, the presentation is top notch. Thanks again
Another great video! So appreciative of all your hard work and time you put in to making these videos. Truly creating the bible of fusion rifles one vid at a time.
as an old destiny player coming back from a long long break- i found you in an old video about being the #1 rumble player, checked out the channel, and immediately fell in love with the content- keep up the great work!
Halfway through and this is an amazing video. Thanks for the work you put into this. I'm holding strong in the Iota Draconis cult with my 4.5/5 roll (just missing the battery). Eremite almost got me, but I can't get over the feeling of Iota, plus all the great clips I've gotten from it.
Been facing a suspicious amount of Rangey Null composure's recently and wondered what was causing it. This video explains that so thank you. I had a feeling it was doing far better then before.
The Butchering of Bastion was a travesty imo. Literally threw everything exotic about it in the dumpster. Imagine Ace losing momento mori's damage buff and taking 20 range off of the weapon. That's what happened to Bastion basically. Loaded Question with Maximum Reduced Charge Time is 847ms on Paper and the roll I have. Running Eye of the Storm and Under Pressure is really nice imo.
@@Legoleflashthanks for your testing and explanation of all of the fusions for PvP. You continue to put in the work with a great presentation. Wish you the best
Going to highlight one weapon, because I think your discussion on it shows how invested and knowledgeable you are. Epicurean. You make the case that while it’s not as good (in the current sandbox) as it was previously, it’s still an above-average weapon, yet no longer elite. You didn’t play the binary “meta vs. trash” card and you highlighted the granular, specific reasons WHY Epicurean is now in a very-good-yet-not-superb place among Fusion Rifles in Crucible. I don’t even play much Crucible, and I can still appreciate your attention to detail and nuance when evaluating weapons for D2. Great job!
Hey thank you so much! I had planned on putting Epicurean S-tier, but the more I noticed those granular reasons it had slipped down, the more I had to put any personal preferences aside! Glad someone else noticed something like that!
Lego, that video is nuts! Huge work! Thank you! Your channel is my main source of info about fusions. Good to know about the latest changes and have the new tier list.
This is one of the all around best d2 videos ever made. I still come back to this video whenever im recrafting or trying new stuff. Its been a year, time for an updated list!
When you made that tweet asking what people thought was the best Fusion I said Burden of Guilt knowing how dummy good it still is, it's been my main Fusion since I got a good adept one way back when. That and Epicurean are my personal goats for the two slots.
I have a pretty decent Burden, and it's STUPID good with Alacrity proc'd. One huge thing about jotunn is it can one shot supers no prob. This vid was worth it just for the Merciless explanation alone! It's been so inconsistent for me, so I gave up on it multiple times. 1:10:30 PFFFFFFFFFTTTT yo that's insane
Your video has me completely reconsidering my whole build. I have a burden with elemental capacitor / high impact. No killing wind, but honestly I'm ok with that. Would want to flip to void, also finding an energy primary to use, a new exotic. It's a total redo of my whole build. I haven't been this excited to play pvp in months. Thank you.
Only 2 minutes into the video and I’m already subscribed. While I play the game enough to know how all of the stats/frames, I love seeing someone break down everything. It’s really nice to just sit down and listen to while I work
Im only about 17 minutes in and what I've learned so far is that i should really bring my Burden of Guilt back out since i have almost the same roll as you. Full Bore(or fluted), Projection Fuse, Killing Wind, High Impact Reserves, Charge time MW.
I'd been waiting for this, saw it was 2 hours, and knew it was going to be incredible. Learned a lot despite never going into Crucible without a fusion, and let me say double fusions is life changing. Now my Adept Plug One can be my primary like it was always meant to be
My plug one with under pressure successful warm up has been one of my favorites but lately after the nerf I prefer techeun force. Enhanced under pressure is tad better then normal under pressure and high impact reserves helps yo secure 1 shots much easier.
@JH-vb1wo I have 1k+ kills on a lot of fusions (Techeun, Burden, Wizened, Cartesian) but my 3/5 Plug One with corkscrew and Cornered is magic. Techeun is great, but I just always go back to Plug One
All I can say about Bastion is that Saint's Fists are not for the faint of heart nor for those that are weak of sphincter. Also, for the Telesto KO against that Thundercrash, you vaporized him because his Thundercrash static damage made the Telesto bolts detonate instantly like he was shooting them right beside him. Great video! So glad to hear good things about Null Composure and Snorri in particular. Two of my favorite models aesthetically. edit: oh, and I forgot to mention that a benefit of Bastion is that it pretty much wrecks barricades and opponents with damage resistance or overshields. That's a perk to it that I don't think you mentioned as a consideration.
Haha! Yeah true! That probably is what happened with Telesto, was just too funny. Can't wait for you to try out null and snorri again, truly feel amazing right now.
@@Legoleflash burden of guilt that I JUST got, & Cartesian that I didn’t even know I had from a long time ago. Just never used it 😅 happy to try them out soon!
I wish I had some more free time so I could behold correctly this rightful masterpiece (How the hell did you managed to make a 2 hour long video!? You're crazy Legooo)
awesome video, i really appreciate the work put into this. might have to break out some more variety beyond my plug.1 that hasnt left my energy slot for like over a year. that midha role sounds hilarious. glad to have another channel that was an easy sub!
Great video! What would you recommend to a mediocre pvp player? I'm terrible with shotguns and was thinking about trying fusions. What is the best "noob" friendly weapon here? I have the Xur Main Ingredient and several others on this list. Thanks!
Precisions are definitely the way, your xur ingredient, Deliverance, Plug One, and Snorri. BUT, if you're playing during this event, I'd go for a good Glacioclasm too! Just put out a vid on it! Going to be great for anyone. If you want to try out some speed. Go for Null Composure now since it's a set roll with no grinding required!
Glad you semi-changed your mind on Dream Breaker. I have to get back in there to see how things are now. That and I still have to clear out my vault from being full (the real end game).
Hey yeah! Glad to help, and yeah, at different skill brackets, even close to the top, Glacio can be really really good and it's definitely easy to use, I just still believe mastering faster fusions and becoming consistent with them will empower players.
I'm unsure if I'll get back into Destiny any longer, as I feel like the chapter on this game in my life is coming to a close. But... when I listened to your talk of Zealot's Reward, it clicked with me. You're absolutely right. Nothing about it should tell you that it's good. Normal stats, nothing impressive... it has no right being as good as it is. Yet, it's easily my most consistent Rapid-Fire. Nothing like it clicks. It doesn't care. You line up the shot? They're sent to the Void. Maybe it's all in the scope. Sleek and different, yet somehow... familiar. Simple red dot with a few extra lines. I can't tell what it is, but maybe that's all it needs. The roll I used is probably a 4/5. Chambered Compensator, Projection Fuse, Under Pressure, High-Impact Reserves, Range MW.
Awesome video! You mentioned disagreeing with airborne fusion plays around 1:14:00, but that might be an area for you to consider next with fusions. I played against a telesto heat-rises dawnblade while back on an open nap, and cover did absolutely nothing to his playstyle hahaha. Very oppressive.
I'm so glad you preached tf out of Burden of Guilt. I have been solo queue flawless running the Lighthouse with mine and it's just too easy. My roll is perfect except for the Coils. I have Accelerated or Liquid. I have been running Liquid because of the Impact buff it gives and I'm not sure it actually affects the charge time? I haven't noticed a significant disadvantage.
Great video, but I’m a little lost on the logic between the tier difference between burden of guilt’s ranking and trinary system’s. We’re talking 2 less range & 3 less AA on trinary with the same perks but no s tier? I don’t think alacrity alone should make them a tier apart either imo
I think so. But as I said in the vid, I give Trinary a lot of credit for having the stats and perks, I just personally don't like the feel of it as much, and can see someone ranking it higher if they do like it. To me, Techeun even feels worlds better with it's enhanced perks, Burden gets up to 100 range, and Pressurized has Discord. All things to place them above Trinary. Also as I mention, paper-thin differences, and I admit that one in particular is the most preferential placement I have in there.
It's the sound of deliverance that makes me use it. Strange how subjective innate things such as sound can change our use case. Great video Legoleflash!
I took Lego's advice to ignore the stability stat and learn to control the recoil a number of months ago and I've never looked back. My Fullbore, max range, adept targeting, killing wind, high impact reserves Burden of Guilt is by a mile the best Fusion rifle I've ever used and it has 17 stability
A great breakdown that goes really in depth into basically anything anyone could want to know about fusions. Unfortunately for Lego though he said Epicurean is solar so the whole video is invalid. For real though amazing vid, I'll definitely be using this as reference for info about pvp fusions.
Perhaps it's because I haven't gotten to use many other fusions in pvp, but my maxed recoil offhand strike/killing wind royal executioner still feels really good. I was doing rumble just the other day and got a midair 180 degree hipfire oneburst at 18 meters, and it made me feel so amazing despite ending up fourth in the lobby. Aside from that, it's still super easy for me to connect all my shots, and I'm typically up close and personal to begin with, so the first shot isn't hard for me to pull off. I've actually gotten more kills within shotgun range AGAINST shotgun users with it than at its max 22 meters due to one, my typically being so close to opponents, and two, commonly finding myself rushing around looking for opponents to use it on and having the timer run out. Again, I probably still love it so much simply because I haven't gotten to use many other fusions, but it does deliver the (almost) shotgun ttk/oneburst capability around corners with the range of an auto rifle in the right circumstances. If you're used to shotguns and want to try out a fusion, royal executioner might help you ease into the fusion play style due to its "versatility." As with all things, it depends on the user.
I’m confused by high impact reserves. When I go to d2foundry, the perk has no affect on time to kill or the number of bolts required to one shot. Every fusion I have done with every perk combo, surge, etc. has never changed the outcome. Am I missing something? Why is this perk so high on the list for fusion players?
Check out my Fusion Charge Time guide video. I have High Impact Reserve charts for PvP. It's too complicated for website calculations because of how it ramps up, so we manually (as a community) figured it out for each fusion type.
@@Legoleflash That video was interesting. D2foundry doesn’t change anything for high impact reserves. This was the whole reason I got rid of all my high impacts fusions with high impact reserves. Always thought the site seemed accurate. That is a huge let down. It’s almost like there’s no point in using that site if there is a chance something like this not showing correctly. Thanks for making the guides!
My Wizened Rebuke is from S4 w/ Backup Plan & Threat Detector. I'm glad to see I'm not crazy and backup plan has been solid for me, while I see many disavowing backup plan
I love that youu know what you talking about and you tryd everyone out. Most list we see on RUclips ist just based on stats.. Most dont play all the guns and see if thats the truth. ❤
Hey thanks! I run vanishing step and trappers ambush, persistence, undermining, vigilance, and starvation! All with Graviton Forfeit to help my damage resistance and get my smokes back fast.
I have almost 2,500 kills on my Adept Burden of Guilt. It is a 9/10 roll, only missing a Range/Stability Masterwork. It has Chambered Compensator/Liquid Coils/Perpetual Motion/High Impact Reserves/Adept Range Mod. The thing feels almost as good as Main Ingredient did in its Prime!
Huge shoutout to d2foundry.gg and Destiny Massive Breakdowns.
LISTED BELOW are some Fav Moments and any science CORRECTIONS:
(I added Perks Explained Timestamps in description)
HIGHLIGHTS
I think the sections on Merciless, Pressurized Precision, Telesto, Delicate Tomb, Snorri, and Main Ingredient are all really interesting.
(Merciless is out of this world)
Also, Burden of Guilt lays out a ton of info on the new patch changes.
CORRECTIONS
- Epicurean is void. Haha, listen, it's a long script.
- Yes, Eremite comes before Epicurean alphabetically. OOPS. Lol.
- Some have tried to say Charge Time MW doesn't apply to all, but I have TRIPLE CHECKED THIS. Statements made in the video are true.
- Aurvandil FR6 IS THE ONLY High Impact currently available with Swashbuckler. Midha's does not have it, I guess I was thinking of how the old Glacioclasm could roll it. Not anymore!
🗣️ 💯
Any interest in a time stamp list for perk discussions in this video? Mostly need to see if backup plan ones are worth keeping
@@NickOngpauco yeah! I'm going to re-edit this comment above and include some!
@@Legoleflash Amazing description edit! Firmly planted tho? I see it mentioned a little with under pressure.
5:55 you said Midha's Reckoning had swashbuckler, but I dont think thats true.
Can’t imagine how much work this took. Great work dude!
Haha, I'm sure it'd be a lot easier if I didn't go so in-depth or care about how accurate the info was, but I really wanted to have the best stuff out there!
@@Legoleflashwell, you succeeded. This is awesome content!
@@DiscoDevil197 Thank you!! Really appreciated! 💛
@True-cx3uy what?
Truly, this is your magnum opus. The work you put in and the depth of research you put in outstanding!
Thanks man! Was crazy working on this one!
*grabs popcorn and soda*
u have a camera in my house?
I’ve got the sour patch kids.
Im really still watching an hour in bruh nodding my head like " yes I see"
Haha, I love all this.
*cooks a five servings meal with optional desserts*
Oh wow, that breakdown was absolutely amazing. Seriously, every single time I thought you ran out of fusion rifles, you managed to surprise me with ones that I had totally forgotten about. While I was watching, I actually decided to give Snorri a shot (by pure luck, I had the god roll hidden away in my vault). And it was a menace in comp play. I also gave the Merciless a try, and even though it was noticeably slower, the accuracy was incredibly satisfying. I'm going to try to master this one. I just want to thank you for this extended deep dive into fusions. Thank you for sharing your incredibly valuable and detailed perspective.
Thank you so much for this comment! It means a lot! I'm right there with you on Merciless. What a crazy fusion!
Love the in-depth review of the weapons. I'm a huge fan of fusions in general and I've been looking for something aside from my Snorri to pair with my Messenger pulse with a better charge time. You've earned yourself a new subscriber. Great work!
Hey thanks for listening! I probably take too much time compared to what it's worth, but I can't help it, I love the deep dives! Glad to have people following who do too!
Dear sweet heavens, a TWO HOUR FUSION VIDEO?!
As a fusion PvP main, this is like Christmas. Thank you, Lego!
What fusions do you use?
Plug one adept w/ under pressure, Cartesian with under pressure/vorpal, and timeline’s vertex with firmly planted and elecap. The vertex is my favorite.
I’ve never gotten a good roll on a burden of guilt, unfortunately.
Merry Christmas! Haha.
@@Legoleflashcould you possibly talk to Bungie/santa and ask them to bring back Burden soon? I’ve had like 10 of them, and 9 of them had chill clip 🎄
@@sethlhaynes I WISH I had that pull. I’d bring back plug one AND burden AND Cartesian with a refreshed perk pool
The moment I seen you post this video all I could do was think of the Jack Nicolson Yes meme lol. I use to ignore fusions in pvp for so long but your videos over the last year have made me a fan. Thanks for taking the time to put this list together. GGs.
Thanks dude!
Really good video, kind of weird that there was a 15 minute section dedicated to explaining how strong Coriolis Force is
A note on charge time MW not changing damage:
> Fixed an issue where the Adept Masterworks and Enhanced Intrinsic perks for Fusion Rifles were decreasing the damage dealt by fusions when they changed the Charge Time stat.
its specifically non-CT MWs on adepts/crafted weapons that incidentally shaved a few ms of charge time and damage off that no longer do so (since those are unavoidable changes). a charge time MW itself is still -2% damage
Ah, I'll go back and test this too. I tested on a crafted fusion to make sure it wasn't just adept, didn't realize Bungie made it even MORE confusing than it already was.
I was planning on doing a follow up vid anyways due to charge time being so intricate, I'll talk about this too.
FYI, triple checked, statements made in my video are true. :) I think the TWAB that spoke about them was just a little confusing.
@@Legoleflash there's also a possibility that Bungie fixed the adept and enhanced intrinsic exactly like they wrote there, and with it introduced a bug for all CT MW's.
@@BorisZapolsky I doubt that. I see where you're coming from, but the point of it was to mitigate people getting Charge Time MW rolls and then NOT masterworking because of the deficits. They should honestly do the same thing with accelerated and liquid, but that's a video for another day. :)
@@Legoleflash Just pulled out my Snorri with an incomplete charge masterwork, and increasing the masterwork does reduce the impact stat. Too scared to test further because if it lowers damage any further it'll break my god roll - no more 5 bolt kill on 10RES with all 3 HIR bursts.
I love merciless, honestly I don't take full advantage of all its perks its just a fusion that feels REALLY nice and hits at those distances with a lot of forgiveness. Super fun fusion.
Merciless was BY FAR (outside of Pressurized Precision) the craziest part of this entire guide. I really want to master it now.
@@Legoleflash for sure! I tell my friends about it but no one believes me until I run with them and top frag and then they're all like "Now I gotta try this". Same thing happens with Borealis and Izanagis burden. There are just some sleeper guns that I love running just for the hell of it.
borealis stay winnin. Lots of top players love it
This is a great video for returning players! Being able to get clear and in depth information makes it easy to catch up and understand the meta. I would love to see this type of video done for other weapon types.
Hey thank you! I'm debating doing one for sidearms. We'll see!
My favorite fusion has always been Midha's Reckoning. It lets me shatter frozen targets super easily. I wish I had it crafted, but I'm done with LFG.
Midha's & Merciless, I'm convinced they're the most slept on High-Impacts for sure.
@@Legoleflash if you see someone named Simply Prime comment, he has 100k with Merciless. He knows.
@@Manstrual GULP
You're the best Lego
Much appreciated friend. 💛
Dude you deserve WAY more views and subs for the quality of contents you put out. Keep it up man
Appreciate it!!
Just finished the video. Holy cow that was long, and a great watch. Definitely can't wait to constantly reference this until things change again!
Thank you!!! Hopefully it remains a reference for many! We'll see!
One of the most interesting thing about zealots is the way the bolts connect. While rapids like iterative loop will usually hit the first few bolts, they can’t get thrown off by movement and flinch.
With zealots, I can hear and see ALL the bolts just connecting. It’s gotta have some sort of unique recoil pattern, even if wall tests don’t show it
I have a VERY high assumption that it's the sound design and look of the bolts. There is just something that makes you play better when it sounds like you're playing better!
@@Legoleflash it’s gotta be more than the sound, it’s just too damn good.
As an aside, I think we would love an in depth guide on invis. You’ve used it consistently and successfully despite some pretty significant nerfs, and a breakdown video would be great to learn how you’ve adapted
@@jordanfan8222 if I hadn't talked to actual devs at bungie, I'd be leaning that way too about it! But no one seems to think there is anything there stat wise!
with the invis... I could, but I'm not sure I want to unleash that upon the sandbox 😅😅 we'll see
Just want to say after looking for some other tier lists on other weapons that your videos in general and this tier list video too is above and beyond any tier list video for Destiny 2 (and probably any tier list in general) I’ve ever seen. The data, the presentation is top notch. Thanks again
Thank you! This is so appreciated!
This was the most comprehensive and well organized review I've ever seen, thank you for the content!
Thank you! Really appreciate it!
Made me subscribe instantly that’s how good the info and quality was.
Hey! Thanks for checking things out!
Another great video! So appreciative of all your hard work and time you put in to making these videos. Truly creating the bible of fusion rifles one vid at a time.
Thank you! So nice to have all the work out there finally!
@@LegoleflashI’m using this list to hopefully find a fusion that I can bond with like I did with the Plan C. That feel at one with, feeling.
2 hours!! Wtf! Now I understand why you didn't upload for so long. Great content!
Haha! Thank you. This one took some TIME.
Let’s GO! Been so excited for this. Keep up the great work as always and !
Thank you!! So excited to finally have it out!
Oh… my…. God…. 2 hours?! I guess I found what I’m gonna be watching on and off at work today until closing😂🎉
haha, went alllllllll out!
*casts to TV*
*volume up*
*sits back with food*
CASTLE!!!!! Thanks for tuning in, even if for just a bit man!
I thought delicate tomb was extremely good during season of the deep but it was definitely carried by the artifact set at the time
it's just a tough sell with how it gets the short stick on damage when it should get a lot more!
as an old destiny player coming back from a long long break- i found you in an old video about being the #1 rumble player, checked out the channel, and immediately fell in love with the content- keep up the great work!
Hey thank you so much for saying so! That's awesome!
Halfway through and this is an amazing video. Thanks for the work you put into this. I'm holding strong in the Iota Draconis cult with my 4.5/5 roll (just missing the battery). Eremite almost got me, but I can't get over the feeling of Iota, plus all the great clips I've gotten from it.
Thank you! Iota is definitely still a force! Sleeper charge time is pretty awesome!
Been facing a suspicious amount of Rangey Null composure's recently and wondered what was causing it. This video explains that so thank you. I had a feeling it was doing far better then before.
Nice! Glad it wasn't all in my head, haha.
I'm looking forward to see the renewed zealot's reward. It must be nuts in both pve and pvp if bungie let it have good perk pool.
It’s so cracked bro.
I cannot wait to craft a zealots it’s gonna be so much better. I hope they add crafting to GoS soon
they've pretty much promised renewed raid weapons will have their iconic rolls, so we're going to have a VERY good fusion on our hands.
@@Legoleflash actually there's no bad weapons in GoS. Being craftable with more modern perk pool every weapon has a chance to be a banger.
Thank you Lego! I've been waiting for this video since you talked about it on the podcast.
So glad to finally have it out! Thanks for your patience!
Appreciate the hell out of this review… I’ll definitely be giving some ignored fusions a chance thanks to you 😊
Love hearing that! Thank you, and glad it was helpful!
You’ve completely blown my mind about that charge time mw and now I have some work to do. Thanks for clearing that up man!
Yeah! Thank ya for saying so! If you haven't watched the new charge time guide, the charts for it are FASCINATING.
The Butchering of Bastion was a travesty imo. Literally threw everything exotic about it in the dumpster.
Imagine Ace losing momento mori's damage buff and taking 20 range off of the weapon. That's what happened to Bastion basically.
Loaded Question with Maximum Reduced Charge Time is 847ms on Paper and the roll I have. Running Eye of the Storm and Under Pressure is really nice imo.
For real, I can't believe how some of these exotics operate.
@@Legoleflashthanks for your testing and explanation of all of the fusions for PvP.
You continue to put in the work with a great presentation. Wish you the best
Haven’t played in months, and was so hyped to see this notification. Appreciate all the hard work and help!
Of course! Had to do it!
Going to highlight one weapon, because I think your discussion on it shows how invested and knowledgeable you are. Epicurean. You make the case that while it’s not as good (in the current sandbox) as it was previously, it’s still an above-average weapon, yet no longer elite. You didn’t play the binary “meta vs. trash” card and you highlighted the granular, specific reasons WHY Epicurean is now in a very-good-yet-not-superb place among Fusion Rifles in Crucible.
I don’t even play much Crucible, and I can still appreciate your attention to detail and nuance when evaluating weapons for D2. Great job!
Hey thank you so much! I had planned on putting Epicurean S-tier, but the more I noticed those granular reasons it had slipped down, the more I had to put any personal preferences aside! Glad someone else noticed something like that!
Lego, that video is nuts! Huge work! Thank you! Your channel is my main source of info about fusions. Good to know about the latest changes and have the new tier list.
Thanks! I appreciate everyone who realizes how much work this was, haha!
definitely one of the most well written and informative destiny videos of all time, congrats
This is one of the all around best d2 videos ever made. I still come back to this video whenever im recrafting or trying new stuff. Its been a year, time for an updated list!
When you made that tweet asking what people thought was the best Fusion I said Burden of Guilt knowing how dummy good it still is, it's been my main Fusion since I got a good adept one way back when. That and Epicurean are my personal goats for the two slots.
You nailed it!
I have a pretty decent Burden, and it's STUPID good with Alacrity proc'd.
One huge thing about jotunn is it can one shot supers no prob.
This vid was worth it just for the Merciless explanation alone! It's been so inconsistent for me, so I gave up on it multiple times. 1:10:30 PFFFFFFFFFTTTT yo that's insane
Always the best
Yo thank you!!! 😮 Going to edit the pinned comment for timestamps on perk adjustments too! Hopefully it's helpful to everyone in the future!
Always a delight to encounter a video I can sit and watch 2 hours in 2023
Just glad to finally have it released! 😅
Been waiting for this for so long now from you teasing it!
So good man, amazing!
So glad it didn't disappoint!
Your video has me completely reconsidering my whole build. I have a burden with elemental capacitor / high impact. No killing wind, but honestly I'm ok with that. Would want to flip to void, also finding an energy primary to use, a new exotic. It's a total redo of my whole build. I haven't been this excited to play pvp in months. Thank you.
That's still a great roll! I'm excited myself, particularly for Merciless and mastering it!
Burden with ele cap on a stasis class is also worth a look.
Glad to see your work finally completed fellow fusion enthusiast!!!
YES! Finally!
It’s finally here!! The video I’ve been waiting for
Took long enough right?? Haha, well at least the testing was thorough!
@@Legoleflash absolutely worth the wait. Great video
Only 2 minutes into the video and I’m already subscribed. While I play the game enough to know how all of the stats/frames, I love seeing someone break down everything. It’s really nice to just sit down and listen to while I work
Love this! Thank you for checking it out!
Im only about 17 minutes in and what I've learned so far is that i should really bring my Burden of Guilt back out since i have almost the same roll as you. Full Bore(or fluted), Projection Fuse, Killing Wind, High Impact Reserves, Charge time MW.
You ABSOLUTELY should! What a great roll!
I'd been waiting for this, saw it was 2 hours, and knew it was going to be incredible. Learned a lot despite never going into Crucible without a fusion, and let me say double fusions is life changing. Now my Adept Plug One can be my primary like it was always meant to be
Love this, and totally with you. Discord has been a game changer for me!
My plug one with under pressure successful warm up has been one of my favorites but lately after the nerf I prefer techeun force. Enhanced under pressure is tad better then normal under pressure and high impact reserves helps yo secure 1 shots much easier.
@JH-vb1wo I have 1k+ kills on a lot of fusions (Techeun, Burden, Wizened, Cartesian) but my 3/5 Plug One with corkscrew and Cornered is magic. Techeun is great, but I just always go back to Plug One
All I can say about Bastion is that Saint's Fists are not for the faint of heart nor for those that are weak of sphincter. Also, for the Telesto KO against that Thundercrash, you vaporized him because his Thundercrash static damage made the Telesto bolts detonate instantly like he was shooting them right beside him.
Great video! So glad to hear good things about Null Composure and Snorri in particular. Two of my favorite models aesthetically.
edit: oh, and I forgot to mention that a benefit of Bastion is that it pretty much wrecks barricades and opponents with damage resistance or overshields. That's a perk to it that I don't think you mentioned as a consideration.
Haha! Yeah true! That probably is what happened with Telesto, was just too funny. Can't wait for you to try out null and snorri again, truly feel amazing right now.
2 hours video? Oh boy, I'm gonna need to stretch first, don't wanna pull a hammy when I watch this glorious content.
I should have known adding in all these fusions was going to make it so much longer 😅😅
@@Legoleflash 😂😂
Was waiting for this one. Getting into fusions & im happy I have 2 of the top 4 fusions out there to play with! Thanks Lego!
Wow that's great!! Which ones??
@@Legoleflash burden of guilt that I JUST got, & Cartesian that I didn’t even know I had from a long time ago. Just never used it 😅 happy to try them out soon!
Videos like this get me hyped to play PvP. Then I play PvP and absolutely hate it.
Haha, I usually just swap playlists until I find one that feels fun that day.
I wish I had some more free time so I could behold correctly this rightful masterpiece
(How the hell did you managed to make a 2 hour long video!? You're crazy Legooo)
It was an UNDERTAKING.
Great video! After my most recent extended break from D2 has elapsed, I gobble gobbled this video up.
Great video! Pressurized Precision has been my favorite fusion for PVP since it released. I only have one Burden of Guilt, but it’s a PVE roll.
Yeah it's incredible. Curious to see if it will catch on!
A new Lego video is the absolute best way to start my day!
This one will fill a LONG gap of the day too
awesome video, i really appreciate the work put into this. might have to break out some more variety beyond my plug.1 that hasnt left my energy slot for like over a year. that midha role sounds hilarious. glad to have another channel that was an easy sub!
Hey thank you for watching! You should definitely try out Midha's! It's pretty sick!
Great video!
What would you recommend to a mediocre pvp player? I'm terrible with shotguns and was thinking about trying fusions. What is the best "noob" friendly weapon here? I have the Xur Main Ingredient and several others on this list.
Thanks!
Precisions are definitely the way, your xur ingredient, Deliverance, Plug One, and Snorri. BUT, if you're playing during this event, I'd go for a good Glacioclasm too! Just put out a vid on it! Going to be great for anyone.
If you want to try out some speed. Go for Null Composure now since it's a set roll with no grinding required!
Glad you semi-changed your mind on Dream Breaker. I have to get back in there to see how things are now. That and I still have to clear out my vault from being full (the real end game).
Oooo I feel ya. Spent time doing that this week for sure
The glacio truth hurt, I used deliverance in trials and it felt really good. Gonna have to expand out, thanks for the recommendations.
Hey yeah! Glad to help, and yeah, at different skill brackets, even close to the top, Glacio can be really really good and it's definitely easy to use, I just still believe mastering faster fusions and becoming consistent with them will empower players.
most important d2 video of the year
Haha! Thank you.
I'm unsure if I'll get back into Destiny any longer, as I feel like the chapter on this game in my life is coming to a close.
But... when I listened to your talk of Zealot's Reward, it clicked with me. You're absolutely right. Nothing about it should tell you that it's good. Normal stats, nothing impressive... it has no right being as good as it is. Yet, it's easily my most consistent Rapid-Fire. Nothing like it clicks. It doesn't care. You line up the shot? They're sent to the Void. Maybe it's all in the scope. Sleek and different, yet somehow... familiar. Simple red dot with a few extra lines. I can't tell what it is, but maybe that's all it needs.
The roll I used is probably a 4/5. Chambered Compensator, Projection Fuse, Under Pressure, High-Impact Reserves, Range MW.
Yeah it's by far the most interesting weapon to me for that exact reason! So curious to see where it goes if it's craftable.
The most informative video about fusion rifles in this game. Thank you for your hard work. Bravo!
Thank you!
Hell yeah..I'm hitting that like button before even clicking play. Let's go baby!
I literally was telling people how I hope a new Lego video comes out soon. I need my fusions back in Trials!
I can't wait to see if Adept Burden of Guilt comes back. I'd go wild for a Discord version.
Great video Lego! I will be referencing this guide in the future when needed, thanks.
Thank you! Hope it is used as a guide for a LONG time to come!
Took me four days but I finally finished it. Thorough and incredibly informative!
Thanks so much for sticking with it!
YESS!!! We've been waiting for this. Another amazing guide my man!
Thank you! had to go all out for this one!
Awesome video! You mentioned disagreeing with airborne fusion plays around 1:14:00, but that might be an area for you to consider next with fusions.
I played against a telesto heat-rises dawnblade while back on an open nap, and cover did absolutely nothing to his playstyle hahaha. Very oppressive.
Yeah, Telesto and Jotunn are the exceptions for this, but I still feel like their downsides are far too great. I like where you're thinking though!
Man you make the best videos out there
Really appreciate y'all hyping me up!
I'm so glad you preached tf out of Burden of Guilt. I have been solo queue flawless running the Lighthouse with mine and it's just too easy. My roll is perfect except for the Coils. I have Accelerated or Liquid. I have been running Liquid because of the Impact buff it gives and I'm not sure it actually affects the charge time? I haven't noticed a significant disadvantage.
Hey that's great! Yeah, while I'd never choose to run Liquid, I have some friends who swear by it on certain archetypes!
Been waiting for this since you tipped it was being put together. 2hrs and going to watch the lot 🎉
EDIT: and just did, *phew*. Great job.
Thank you for the full watch through! Amazing!
I love your fusion videos so much. Listening to this (not watching!) during my long commute is great
Love that! Was hoping I would catch some commutes!
@@Legoleflash 30 minutes there and back to class! What better way to spend the time before studying by studying the good stuff 🔥
@@HAWKER37 PERFECT
Took a full day, but I watched the full thing and enjoyed every second of it! Thanks for all the hard work Lego!
Thank you for your commitment as well!! Really appreciate it!
I love that when you say a sweeping statement about how this is the best fusion guide out there and I'm like, yeah, without a doubt 💖
Good lord this is the most extensive review of all of one type of weapon I’ve seen, I never used fusion rifles before and now I want to try
Highest quality Destiny 2 tier list video, period. Lego’s best work ever, and that’s saying something. 🎉
That IS saying something. Thank you!
Great video, but I’m a little lost on the logic between the tier difference between burden of guilt’s ranking and trinary system’s. We’re talking 2 less range & 3 less AA on trinary with the same perks but no s tier? I don’t think alacrity alone should make them a tier apart either imo
I think so. But as I said in the vid, I give Trinary a lot of credit for having the stats and perks, I just personally don't like the feel of it as much, and can see someone ranking it higher if they do like it. To me, Techeun even feels worlds better with it's enhanced perks, Burden gets up to 100 range, and Pressurized has Discord. All things to place them above Trinary. Also as I mention, paper-thin differences, and I admit that one in particular is the most preferential placement I have in there.
I wasn't ever too into fusion rifles. Watched this whole vid, gonna have some fun with them now. Great work!
It's the sound of deliverance that makes me use it. Strange how subjective innate things such as sound can change our use case. Great video Legoleflash!
Thank you! And yeah, I totally agree! Look and sound can change so much!
I took Lego's advice to ignore the stability stat and learn to control the recoil a number of months ago and I've never looked back. My Fullbore, max range, adept targeting, killing wind, high impact reserves Burden of Guilt is by a mile the best Fusion rifle I've ever used and it has 17 stability
YESSSSSSSSSS 🔥
Another great fusion video from Professor Lego.
Class was IN SESSION for this one!
My main has done it once again!! I guessed Techeun as one of the top but never did I imagine ity made top 3. VERY well done Lego
Thanks man! Had to cook this one a while, but glad it's ready!
A great breakdown that goes really in depth into basically anything anyone could want to know about fusions. Unfortunately for Lego though he said Epicurean is solar so the whole video is invalid.
For real though amazing vid, I'll definitely be using this as reference for info about pvp fusions.
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Perhaps it's because I haven't gotten to use many other fusions in pvp, but my maxed recoil offhand strike/killing wind royal executioner still feels really good. I was doing rumble just the other day and got a midair 180 degree hipfire oneburst at 18 meters, and it made me feel so amazing despite ending up fourth in the lobby. Aside from that, it's still super easy for me to connect all my shots, and I'm typically up close and personal to begin with, so the first shot isn't hard for me to pull off. I've actually gotten more kills within shotgun range AGAINST shotgun users with it than at its max 22 meters due to one, my typically being so close to opponents, and two, commonly finding myself rushing around looking for opponents to use it on and having the timer run out. Again, I probably still love it so much simply because I haven't gotten to use many other fusions, but it does deliver the (almost) shotgun ttk/oneburst capability around corners with the range of an auto rifle in the right circumstances. If you're used to shotguns and want to try out a fusion, royal executioner might help you ease into the fusion play style due to its "versatility." As with all things, it depends on the user.
Hey if you can use it consistently, GO FOR IT. Would be a dream fusion for anyone who can!
I’m confused by high impact reserves.
When I go to d2foundry, the perk has no affect on time to kill or the number of bolts required to one shot. Every fusion I have done with every perk combo, surge, etc. has never changed the outcome.
Am I missing something? Why is this perk so high on the list for fusion players?
Check out my Fusion Charge Time guide video. I have High Impact Reserve charts for PvP. It's too complicated for website calculations because of how it ramps up, so we manually (as a community) figured it out for each fusion type.
@@Legoleflash That video was interesting. D2foundry doesn’t change anything for high impact reserves. This was the whole reason I got rid of all my high impacts fusions with high impact reserves. Always thought the site seemed accurate. That is a huge let down. It’s almost like there’s no point in using that site if there is a chance something like this not showing correctly.
Thanks for making the guides!
My Wizened Rebuke is from S4 w/ Backup Plan & Threat Detector. I'm glad to see I'm not crazy and backup plan has been solid for me, while I see many disavowing backup plan
Yeah! It's SO good on those high impacts, and now you got the science to back it up!
Haha I like the jotunn star wars reference at 57:00 also great commentary on discord and checkmate I agree with the S tier chart
Thanks Rooster!
The Aegis of PVP fusion rifles returns! Let's gooo
This was a BIG one too.
I've been waiting for this day
Hope it meets expectations!
as much as i hate fusions in PVP, you put a rediclious amount of work into this video which is highly respectable GGs
Hey thank you! Really appreciate it!
Worth the wait. The best, most professional Destiny content on the web.
Appreciate it!!!
I LOVE THIS KIND OF CONTENT!!! Castle content-esk deep dive tier lists are my absolute favorite videos. I wish I could spam like this vid!
Castle is one of my fav people! 💛
Me too. I always use his promo code for my advance gg lol
I love that youu know what you talking about and you tryd everyone out.
Most list we see on RUclips ist just based on stats..
Most dont play all the guns and see if thats the truth. ❤
Exactly! Wanted to really do it justice!
Lego, what aspects/fragments do you run on void Hunter? And what exotic armor do you use? Love the vids!
Hey thanks! I run vanishing step and trappers ambush, persistence, undermining, vigilance, and starvation! All with Graviton Forfeit to help my damage resistance and get my smokes back fast.
Great video as usual Lego! I laughed at “Sulking Wolf”. Put a hilarious image in my head
Haha, I might have been reading too fast at that point! Took three nights to record the audio alone! 😅😅😅
I mainly use snipers, but these tier list always make me want to whip out fusions
If you want to snipe, just use Merciless 😭🤣
I have almost 2,500 kills on my Adept Burden of Guilt. It is a 9/10 roll, only missing a Range/Stability Masterwork. It has Chambered Compensator/Liquid Coils/Perpetual Motion/High Impact Reserves/Adept Range Mod. The thing feels almost as good as Main Ingredient did in its Prime!
That's awesome! Yeah, it got just SO many buffs it's unreal