Begode Falcon vs Kingsong S16

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  • Опубликовано: 9 сен 2024

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  • @torpong44
    @torpong44 2 месяца назад +9

    As a new rider(less then a year) starting at 58 it’s always interesting to watch highly capable riders riding an EUC meant more for beginners/intermediate to see its limits. I have a an Mten4, A2, V11, S16 Pro in that order of learning and purchase. I was tempted to go for a Lynx but after riding the S16(at 30 kg and the heaviest I own) I have realized that for me there’s a big difference when riding a heavier EUC and probably will pass on anything over 30kg. The Falcon is certainly interesting in terms of power per kg.

    • @boblatkey7160
      @boblatkey7160 2 месяца назад +1

      I'm a newbie at 58 years old and I absolutely love my Lynx! Already ripping off-road trails on it and have about 1500 miles on it. I've been riding for about seven months now.

  • @jasonmelo9379
    @jasonmelo9379 2 месяца назад +5

    Where's the comparison? This is just a group ride of people hanging out. This video is definitely titled wrong. I'm glad I skimmed through and didn't actually watch every minute of it. This is as long as a freaking movie!

    • @Digo-eu
      @Digo-eu Месяц назад +2

      There is some discussion of the differences within the first 10min. But after the initial presentation it’s just the group ride indeed.

  • @NemoEUC
    @NemoEUC 2 месяца назад +3

    appreciate the wheel spec summary at the beginning

  • @davida7575
    @davida7575 2 месяца назад +2

    I put my first 5 miles on my Falcon this evening. Put the titan pads on it. I was having trouble getting EUC world to link up and I was also having trouble figuring out how to turn off the beeps at 17mph. Gonna put it thru more tomorrow but suspension is awesome and i havent done any adjusting yet, street tire was the right choice.

  • @retrothruster2539
    @retrothruster2539 2 месяца назад +3

    Falcon impresses, dude in the t-shirt riding it ain't no joke either. I think Roger could do a damn good Leonard Nimoy impression!

    • @roghaj
      @roghaj  2 месяца назад +3

      I do impressions for $$$

    • @ChrisTorina1
      @ChrisTorina1 2 месяца назад +4

      Thank you…. I had big shoes to fill taking over for Roger 😆

  • @brockshields9336
    @brockshields9336 2 месяца назад +5

    Almost an hour & 1/2 video after editing. Roger, you seem to be holding up well on a lengthy ride after your recent abrupt 40mph encounter with a concrete curb. An hour in and you've not mentioned your ankle. The loaned backbrace seems to be helping. I think new guy No-A seems to have found his group. Wish I were 20 years younger and not half the country away in Oklahoma. Love your videos. Thanks for sharing.

  • @ChopperKrios
    @ChopperKrios 2 месяца назад +3

    The Falcon is now the wheel I want to get to teach my friends to ride. They won't keep up with my Lynx, but I can slow down for them.
    Also thanks for the charger Roger. I love it.

    • @roghaj
      @roghaj  2 месяца назад +3

      I want one for that too. The inverse works also. Riding with newer riders on super advanced wheels and keeping up with them on a toy is kind of fun.

    • @boblatkey7160
      @boblatkey7160 2 месяца назад +1

      Well I wish you luck! I have tried with so many of my friends and all of them laugh at me and say no way in hell dude! So I ride alone...... 😂😂

    • @roghaj
      @roghaj  2 месяца назад +2

      @@boblatkey7160 My friends were MTB guys. we start out knowing to never say "no way in hell".

    • @boblatkey7160
      @boblatkey7160 2 месяца назад +2

      @@roghaj I get that, I've been riding MTB all my life along with my buddies. And none of them understand why I would switch from a $13,000 electric mountain bike to an electric unicycle, they think I'm nuts and that it's super dangerous. But my joke is ever since I got a couple of EUC's in my garage, my mountain bike has been giving me dirty looks! 😂😂😂😂

  • @RUillistEUC
    @RUillistEUC 3 дня назад

    You guys are insane-ly awesome

  • @jahashwah
    @jahashwah 2 месяца назад

    That hill climb at Sun Down was legendary- all that with the soreness too

  • @ChrisTorina1
    @ChrisTorina1 2 месяца назад +3

    Your suspension sucks ass 😂😂😂
    Thanks for filming my crashes trying to go back up that drop so I can see my mistakes….. I will make it up that for sure in the future. And thanks again for your vote of confidence to Marty to let me finish the demo ride on the Falcon. Coming from you that means a lot to me 🙏🏼 now heal up fast my friend.

    • @ditttohead
      @ditttohead 2 месяца назад +2

      Chris, your skills are insane level, it was amazing to be able to ride with you!

    • @ChrisTorina1
      @ChrisTorina1 2 месяца назад +1

      @@ditttohead thank you so much 🙏🏼 was great meeting and riding with you as well. I love your ambition and not caring about crashes, you just get right back up and keep going 💪🏼

    • @ceasercruz8785
      @ceasercruz8785 15 дней назад +1

      How much do you weigh, Chris? Looking to get a falcon.

    • @ChrisTorina1
      @ChrisTorina1 15 дней назад

      @@ceasercruz8785 all geared up I weigh 170 pounds 👍🏼

    • @ceasercruz8785
      @ceasercruz8785 15 дней назад +1

      @ChrisTorina1 Thank you for your information, I really appreciate it. Also, do you have a RUclips? Roger asked if you were recording, and you said yes. I would like to see your point of view once he handed off the falcon to you.

  • @TheThunderwars
    @TheThunderwars 2 месяца назад +2

    If you know where to ask, an S16 Pro will set you back 1600 bucks delivered, and the falcon 1500, which makes the s16Pro completely worth it I'd say.. Got my Lynx for 2850 bucks with 50s cells and 62lbs spring.

    • @Corn8Bit
      @Corn8Bit 2 месяца назад +3

      Where? I don't see that on ungerground or ngm. Help a rider out

    • @TheThunderwars
      @TheThunderwars 2 месяца назад

      @@Corn8Bit If you have a good relationship with an Aliexpress seller. I've bought mine from the same guy for 4 years straight, the after sale is top notch, my friends ( in France ) regret buying from local reseller. I bought a batch 1 V12 from him and was one of the first worldwide to receive the new corrected motherboard ..

    • @Corn8Bit
      @Corn8Bit 2 месяца назад +2

      And he never replied...

    • @aaron6091
      @aaron6091 2 месяца назад +1

      But the Falcon is more powerful, lighter, more compact, cheaper, and still gets the same range as s16 pro apparently.

  • @tomnel
    @tomnel 2 месяца назад +2

    So little love for my S16 pro 😢 but great to see you guys enjoying the Falcon 😅

  • @eucfng
    @eucfng 2 месяца назад +1

    was 29min. looked at the time. danget! lunch time is over😂

  • @marceloalejandrovallejos840
    @marceloalejandrovallejos840 2 месяца назад +2

    Saludos desde Argentina Buenos Aires, sos un Genio Capooo...
    Tu energía de montar la rueda hizo que me consiguiera una rueda pero mucho más chica de las que ustedes utilizan en sus recorridos.
    Con mi esposa siempre estamos esperando algunos videos sean los tuyos Roger, o de Marty y Dam.
    Soy Marcelo y mi esposa Analia.
    Suerte y muchísima Energía para la próxima aventura en Monociclo... 😊

  • @Planet-ICELAND
    @Planet-ICELAND 2 месяца назад +2

    Too much loose stuff in that incline, maybe take a broom to it next time.
    Roger trying to throw the new guy into the grinder.
    19:19 yeah can see that double jolt when going down, no good for them bones, smart to cut the losses while ahead 👍
    Cris seem to be quite capable rider, maybe he can substitude as leading character more.
    i guess those white poles on the tracks could use some reflective tape for added visibility
    pain on the way down for sure, atleast end of the day.

    • @ChrisTorina1
      @ChrisTorina1 2 месяца назад +1

      Thank you I appreciate the kind words 🙏🏼

  • @walterwilliams268
    @walterwilliams268 2 месяца назад +1

    What aftermarket pads did you install on Falcon ? Thx

  • @russellzauner
    @russellzauner 2 месяца назад +1

    I have a V10F I used to recommend all the time but in all good conscience unless you're specifically looking for a non-suspension wheel if you can go the extra 300 bucks it's 100% worth it to go to the Falcon. V12 still has better range, and is priced the same as the Falcon but again both are just 300 bucks upcharge so especially if you already have a larger wheel there's no reason not to strongly consider Falcon's price/performance.
    Besides, if you plan on tapping a backpack battery for long/high speed runs I'd think you'd want as much weight as possible *out* of the wheel itself, so a smaller onboard pack might actually have advantages.

    • @russellzauner
      @russellzauner 2 месяца назад +1

      Also if that guy has a first gen S22 and his motor hasn't been at least pinned, let him know please - if he knew, his motor would be pinned or replaced. It's easy enough to check serial numbers to date the unit.

  • @grb1969
    @grb1969 2 месяца назад +1

    Roger, Ask your orthopedic guy if a "medial branch nerve ablation" is right for your pain source. Minimal complications, out-patient surgery, 3-6 months recovery . This is a pain reduction procedure that reduces the inflammation response cycle and speeds subsequent recovery times yet doesn't "structurally" change the disc herniation or intervertebral gap spacing.

    • @roghaj
      @roghaj  2 месяца назад +1

      A solution would be great however I would like to avoid surgery if at all possible.

    • @GoG6138
      @GoG6138 2 месяца назад

      @@roghajIt is usually called "radio frequency ablation" or "rf ablation" (Google it). It's not surgery, it takes about 30 minutes then you go home. It involves sticking a special needle into certain parts of your back and using radio frequencies to dull (ablate) the nerves. It lasts about a year or two if you're lucky. But if you have chronic back pain there are several other easier treatments you should try first, such as nerve block injections.

    • @rokclimbah
      @rokclimbah 2 месяца назад +1

      @@roghaj not a surgery, they stick a needle near the nerve and 'burn' it. Minimal pain, takes @10min.

  • @dominicpelletier1621
    @dominicpelletier1621 2 месяца назад +1

    The S16 display is 16x16 and not 32x32 as Kingsong maketing says but it still has a good looks.

  • @Andre-Mostert
    @Andre-Mostert 2 месяца назад

    This makes me want to look at the Falcon as a second smaller fun wheel. I ordered a MTEN4 for the kids but this one can be good for some nice easy trail riding. Looks pretty good quality too. Hi from the UK

    • @boblatkey7160
      @boblatkey7160 Месяц назад +1

      I'm already taking the falcon on technical trails and it is completely impressing me. It is a damn fun little wheel. I haven't been on my Lynx in over a week! That's unheard of. 😂😂😂

  • @Wheel_fast_euc_rider
    @Wheel_fast_euc_rider 2 месяца назад

    Good morning Roger!!

    • @roghaj
      @roghaj  2 месяца назад +2

      Good morning. Back pain messes with your head and your sleep. I think I need to takes up hardcore drug use.

    • @Wheel_fast_euc_rider
      @Wheel_fast_euc_rider 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@roghaj 💯
      Hope you heal up soon my friend.

  • @patrickmckowen2999
    @patrickmckowen2999 2 месяца назад

    👍
    I see in Canada that SmartWheels also sells the Falcon.
    Cheers

  • @olivergould5428
    @olivergould5428 2 месяца назад +2

    How did the Falcon's battery hold up, and how did its range compare with the S16 pro?

    • @roghaj
      @roghaj  2 месяца назад +3

      Both did well... someone else tested them against eachother and it turns out that the Falcon does about the same even though it has a smaller battery.

  • @alainheekhout8198
    @alainheekhout8198 2 месяца назад +2

    Is it true that the Falcon hugs the side of the road too much (like the Z10 from Ninebot) which is surprising and very unpleasant (probably an effect of the width of the tubeless tire).

    • @roghaj
      @roghaj  2 месяца назад +3

      it had a very predictable ride just like the A2. This will be a good beginner wheel.

  • @ceasercruz8785
    @ceasercruz8785 15 дней назад

    How much do Chris and Roger weigh, just to get a weight comparison to myself?

  • @Lucaslfm1
    @Lucaslfm1 2 дня назад

    so, what's the conclusion? The falcon is indeed better than the S16?

  • @anDromedaIOT
    @anDromedaIOT 2 месяца назад +2

    Clickbait title! You did everything except compare the two wheels, didn't even run em up the same hill, I suspect the mighty S16 would have won every time 😮. Great vid, lots of fun thanks. The sun finally came out in the UK today, we shoulda declared it a national frkn holiday!

    • @roghaj
      @roghaj  2 месяца назад +2

      I did all that stuff the last time I tested the S16 It failed almost everything.

    • @deltarowz
      @deltarowz 2 месяца назад +1

      @@roghaj vs the 14? real fair comparison. it also seemed to have done everything aside from the first hill?

    • @roghaj
      @roghaj  2 месяца назад +1

      @@deltarowz the V14 would pass every test. it is a great wheel in every way except top speed.

  • @user-lk2kk8ve6y
    @user-lk2kk8ve6y 2 месяца назад +1

    I love seeing King Song being ridiculed by a little nugget like Falcon! Such a simple and wonderfully effective compact wheel!! KingSong should revert to Christmas decoration equipment.
    This Falcon is clearly approved by all the wheelers who have done demonstrations in recent weeks. There are no more questions to ask BEGODE has really killed the competition with this superb little wheel! Good luck to Leaperkim to do better with the same price and not Leaperkim prices.

    • @roghaj
      @roghaj  2 месяца назад

      It certainly is a nice wheel... But for real riders, the Falcon DWARFS it. I think the F22 will impress... But until then: Begode, Extreme Bull, LeapetKim for me.

  • @noelleonard2498
    @noelleonard2498 26 дней назад

    When you only need 20 miles of range

  • @thanh-nguyen1976
    @thanh-nguyen1976 2 месяца назад

    Hi Roger, You've been on both the Falcon and Commander Bull Mini. which is the better 16" wheel?
    Reply

  • @user-lk2kk8ve6y
    @user-lk2kk8ve6y Месяц назад +1

    Hello Begode Falcon :-) ...Bye Bye KS S16 ^^

  • @sergionemeth4920
    @sergionemeth4920 2 месяца назад

    Gostei muitp da comparação eu tenho um S16 mas não consigo regular a suspensão pra ficar mais macia e retorno hora q der faz um vídeo, ou se dá pra trocar a suspensão e qual usar

    • @roghaj
      @roghaj  2 месяца назад +1

      I doubt I will be doing any more content on the S16. That wheel is not mine and I don't think anyone is going to send me one and I do not plan on buying one.

  • @fred4794
    @fred4794 2 месяца назад

    What is the best tire for the Falcon between knobby and street one ? I have heard that the tubeless street tire is bad even for the street.

    • @roghaj
      @roghaj  2 месяца назад +2

      Street tire: that's the tire that we were rocking. Had absolutely no issues. I think we all loved everything about the wheel.

    • @boblatkey7160
      @boblatkey7160 Месяц назад +1

      I'm running the knobby on my falcon and it is great on the street and it is even better off-road on steep Rocky chunky stuff. It's an absolute blast. I have never heard any downsides to using a tubeless tire. I carry stuff in my little pack and I can fix one anywhere on the trail and be back up and running in a matter of minutes even with a good puncture. I have never heard anything bad about a tubeless tire.

  • @aec_corp
    @aec_corp 2 месяца назад

    s16pro or falcon ?

    • @roghaj
      @roghaj  2 месяца назад +2

      Falcon for me for sure. S16 didn't have power

  • @tomaszjaniga4725
    @tomaszjaniga4725 2 месяца назад

    Anybody from Europe in the comments section? I'm trying to find the Master Pro V3 in European shops but none of them seem to have one. I started to ride two months ago (S16 Pro my first) and already have range anxiety.

    • @anDromedaIOT
      @anDromedaIOT 2 месяца назад

      Nottingham and S16 pro. I tend to cruise and get 30miles out of it (I think, not sure) , I'm 72kg. Not many long trails in UK to test on and too many cops! Where you?

  • @rossspindler2728
    @rossspindler2728 2 месяца назад +1

    1.5hrs for a wheel review is paintful at best. Edit it so its worth watching

    • @ChrisTorina1
      @ChrisTorina1 2 месяца назад +2

      Then don’t watch it then…..he’s known for his long videos and we all love it!

    • @skapri
      @skapri 2 месяца назад +2

      We love his long videos, I watched this one entirely and I don't plan to buy a falcon 😁

    • @HiltonT69
      @HiltonT69 26 дней назад +1

      I watched the whole video and am seriously thinking about a Falcon instead of the S16 I was considering as my first wheel.

    • @ChrisTorina1
      @ChrisTorina1 26 дней назад

      @@HiltonT69 you won’t be disappointed with the falcon 👍🏼

  • @HumbolSkitso
    @HumbolSkitso 2 месяца назад

    Wow really?? RIP Mask? 😔 damn

    • @roghaj
      @roghaj  2 месяца назад +1

      He'll be back

    • @HumbolSkitso
      @HumbolSkitso 2 месяца назад

      @@roghaj oh? lol wtf Roger, thats not cool man lol. I shouldve known with ur humor, it was a joke about him falling off the skinny bridge before.

  • @evgenwingman5593
    @evgenwingman5593 20 дней назад +1

    7:31
    Лезть в горку на сликовой покрышке Это идиотизм высшей категории.

  • @dbirds21
    @dbirds21 17 дней назад

    Hey roger which one of these would be better for first wheel.

    • @roghaj
      @roghaj  16 дней назад

      The Falcon and 16 pro are both great. I was more impressed with the Falcon. The non pro S16 is a toy

  • @DeathToCockroaches
    @DeathToCockroaches 2 месяца назад +1

    Painfull to see you not doing the fun stuff 😕 wish you well

  • @c.a.mkairsta.minnisjmq1423
    @c.a.mkairsta.minnisjmq1423 29 дней назад

    S.E.O Cornerstone
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