New Mic, lemme know if there's any noticeable difference :) Just wanted to say to any American people watching I know things may be scary for some of you, but chin up, you CAN live a life still :) PLAY SONIC X SHADOW GENERATIONS.
I think what makes Perfect Chaos OP as hell is the fact that as long as there is Water, he can always reform, no matter how many times he's beaten, the only way to technically beat him (without the Chaos Emeralds) would be to remove all the water from the world, which even then might not work due to how Durable Chaos is, he's literally immortal, the only reason he was beaten was because Super Sonic used the positive energy of the Emeralds to neutralise Chaos' power, which even then, didn't kill him, it just calmed him down to the point he didn't want to fight anymore. Chaos might legitimately be the strongest Sonic character from a Durability Standpoint, from Power, probably not, but he's definitely underrated when It comes to the discussion of the strongest Sonic characters.
Yep. Even if I don't think he scales to super sonic now, I did mention that yeah he IS water. You have to evaporate him, but chances are he's already in an ocean or flood at that point.
Sonic does get stronger with time. The gens argument is not really valid since teamwork makes the characters stack up their powers in Sonic, as seen in Sonic 4 episode II, Sonic Heroes, Sonic Advance 3, and Sonic Forces. BUT Generations Sonic still can't afford to take Chaos' beams unlike he did when he was Super Sonic.
I understand that argument, hell in rush you can literally power up the emeralds via friendship. I still don't think it helps chaos get the full solaris scaling but I see your points.
See if it came down to it Beerus might lose against Chaos. Chaos is a water god and as long as any form of water exists he will keep coming back again and again and even Super Sonic wasnt enough to stop him as all that happened was he calmed down and went back to Chaos 0. He wasnt killed just subdued. Chaos could drown Beerus in water if he wanted too but Im not sure if the Hakai can even hurt Chaos as hes pure liquid and not a solid objects which Hakai's can only destroy.
I think you misunderstand the Eclipse Canon a bit. The canon doesn't have variable strengths based on the number of emeralds in it, what the number of emeralds do is speed up it's recharge. So with all 7 it can recharge and fire frequently, while with 6 is takes a massive amount of time between shots - but aside from that a 6 emerald canon and a 7 emerald canon are in theory the same power. I assume that it has some level of control over how powerful those shots are though, since Eggman only wanted to threaten people and destroy countries with the canon, not the whole planet. Piercing stars also doesn't mean destroying them, what that implies to my ears at least is that the blast is strong enough to go through a star with enough power to continue out the other side. Still impressive, and that might still be enough to destroy a star (idk) but the statement isn't the same as destroying a star. The Eclipse Canon isn't the strongest use of the emeralds, so it doesn't really change anything, just thought I'd share my thoughts.
I believe the calc considers the fact it only pierces stars. Its still impressive. I'm aware the emeralds don't change much but it having 2 big Feats is still worth mentioning.
Good video as usual, since I'm also Kyogre vs. Chaos Fan, I wonder where you would put Kyogre, I know he would be composited throughout all media like games, manga, and anime. I know Kyogre has a bunch of hacks with his wide pool of moves, and I heard Mewtwo would get to High Uni, so I wonder where he scales?
Chaos is probably the single weakest mainline Sonic villain in the franchise with his only real competition being the Deadly Six. Hes an absolute joke without any Chaos Emeralds and the power boost each Emerald gives him isn't all that impressive. Even with all Seven he can only really use the inferior Negative Half of the Emeralds meaning he has at best less than half of Super Sonic's strength and his obvious weak spot makes it possible for someone liek Sonic to take him down fairly easily.
@@thedrunkgiraffe8312 yeah but when its competition is guys like Eggman, Metal Sonic, Solaris, Black Doom, Nine, Doctor Starline, Surge the Tenrec, Infinite, and others my point remains true, if Chaos isnt at the bottom of th Totem Poll hes really close. heck depending on how you view Sonic's growth as a fighter (it really depends on the writer) you could make a very real argument that Mecha Sonic could probably kill Perfect Chaos considering the IDW Comics go with the interpertation that Classic Sonic is just as fast as modern Sonic thanks to the Scrapnik Island miniseries.
New Mic, lemme know if there's any noticeable difference :)
Just wanted to say to any American people watching I know things may be scary for some of you, but chin up, you CAN live a life still :)
PLAY SONIC X SHADOW GENERATIONS.
Actually in the end chaos and tikal have gone to the afterlife happy
I think what makes Perfect Chaos OP as hell is the fact that as long as there is Water, he can always reform, no matter how many times he's beaten, the only way to technically beat him (without the Chaos Emeralds) would be to remove all the water from the world, which even then might not work due to how Durable Chaos is, he's literally immortal, the only reason he was beaten was because Super Sonic used the positive energy of the Emeralds to neutralise Chaos' power, which even then, didn't kill him, it just calmed him down to the point he didn't want to fight anymore.
Chaos might legitimately be the strongest Sonic character from a Durability Standpoint, from Power, probably not, but he's definitely underrated when It comes to the discussion of the strongest Sonic characters.
Yep. Even if I don't think he scales to super sonic now, I did mention that yeah he IS water. You have to evaporate him, but chances are he's already in an ocean or flood at that point.
@@thefollower2933 or just attack his brain ?
@@thedrunkgiraffe8312 well if Generations is anything to go by, he gets beaten pretty easily by base Sonic now.
I really hope we get Chaos VS Kyogre soon
And also Evil Natural Ocean from One Punch Man.
Absolute Cinema
Chaos could take on Hulk!
Chaos would die
Sonic does get stronger with time. The gens argument is not really valid since teamwork makes the characters stack up their powers in Sonic, as seen in Sonic 4 episode II, Sonic Heroes, Sonic Advance 3, and Sonic Forces. BUT Generations Sonic still can't afford to take Chaos' beams unlike he did when he was Super Sonic.
I understand that argument, hell in rush you can literally power up the emeralds via friendship.
I still don't think it helps chaos get the full solaris scaling but I see your points.
@@thedrunkgiraffe8312 No, I was not trying to get him to Solaris level, in fact, my point disproves that.
See if it came down to it Beerus might lose against Chaos. Chaos is a water god and as long as any form of water exists he will keep coming back again and again and even Super Sonic wasnt enough to stop him as all that happened was he calmed down and went back to Chaos 0. He wasnt killed just subdued. Chaos could drown Beerus in water if he wanted too but Im not sure if the Hakai can even hurt Chaos as hes pure liquid and not a solid objects which Hakai's can only destroy.
R.I.P. berrus
Beerus destroys chaos dude
@@charmingmagican9821 Nah, Chaos actually slaughters Beerus
@@inksinkanimates8921 no he doesn't
Chaos is barely planet level
Berrus negs beyond no diff
@charmingmagican9821 Bro did not watch the video
@@thedrunkgiraffe8312 i bet goten and trunks neg chaos
I think you misunderstand the Eclipse Canon a bit. The canon doesn't have variable strengths based on the number of emeralds in it, what the number of emeralds do is speed up it's recharge. So with all 7 it can recharge and fire frequently, while with 6 is takes a massive amount of time between shots - but aside from that a 6 emerald canon and a 7 emerald canon are in theory the same power. I assume that it has some level of control over how powerful those shots are though, since Eggman only wanted to threaten people and destroy countries with the canon, not the whole planet.
Piercing stars also doesn't mean destroying them, what that implies to my ears at least is that the blast is strong enough to go through a star with enough power to continue out the other side. Still impressive, and that might still be enough to destroy a star (idk) but the statement isn't the same as destroying a star.
The Eclipse Canon isn't the strongest use of the emeralds, so it doesn't really change anything, just thought I'd share my thoughts.
I believe the calc considers the fact it only pierces stars. Its still impressive.
I'm aware the emeralds don't change much but it having 2 big Feats is still worth mentioning.
Good video as usual, since I'm also Kyogre vs. Chaos Fan, I wonder where you would put Kyogre, I know he would be composited throughout all media like games, manga, and anime. I know Kyogre has a bunch of hacks with his wide pool of moves, and I heard Mewtwo would get to High Uni, so I wonder where he scales?
Well Mewtwo is definitely on the list 😉
How have I never come across drunk powerscaling before
Binge time :)
@@thedrunkgiraffe8312You know how smart Batman is?
How strong do you think sonic is
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Bro said that sonic getting stronger over time didn't make sense then provided multiple examples of him doing so
Bro said that SUPER Sonic didn't. Base does.
Chaos is probably the single weakest mainline Sonic villain in the franchise with his only real competition being the Deadly Six.
Hes an absolute joke without any Chaos Emeralds and the power boost each Emerald gives him isn't all that impressive.
Even with all Seven he can only really use the inferior Negative Half of the Emeralds meaning he has at best less than half of Super Sonic's strength and his obvious weak spot makes it possible for someone liek Sonic to take him down fairly easily.
It is true. But he is still harnessing the negative energy of the emeralds. All it means is that he can't scale to solaris, end, time eater etc
@@thedrunkgiraffe8312 yeah but when its competition is guys like Eggman, Metal Sonic, Solaris, Black Doom, Nine, Doctor Starline, Surge the Tenrec, Infinite, and others my point remains true, if Chaos isnt at the bottom of th Totem Poll hes really close.
heck depending on how you view Sonic's growth as a fighter (it really depends on the writer) you could make a very real argument that Mecha Sonic could probably kill Perfect Chaos considering the IDW Comics go with the interpertation that Classic Sonic is just as fast as modern Sonic thanks to the Scrapnik Island miniseries.
@@anthonyrodriguez8788 This !
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