I'm reasonably sure the old school method of dealing with cougars would not have been allowed for them to use. The old way was to take a lamb/calf/foal away from its mother, tether it to a tree in the middle of a field, and sit and wait for the baby to start crying for mama. Cougar'll come for the crying infant (aka easy meal) and gets picked off by rancher w/ firearm.
My aunt has a cattle farm in the upper Hunter in NSW, never had wild dogs go after a fully grown cow (and she does a small breed that rarely grows horns), but they used to rip apart her ducks and sheep regularly before she got a couple LGDs. Those dogs are a godsend. Their mere presence tends to keep other dogs and dingoes away. She'd get foxes and wedgies taking lambs and attacking lambing ewes, as you said, as well as ravens on occassion. Hardest thing she taught her dogs was to look up.
Hah Im an Aussie living in the US now, but I got a rescue German shepherd that is fucking obsessed with controlling the airspace above my property. Hates birds passionately and even barks at planes 😂
LGDs are the best livestock protective measure that'll actually stay effective and not affect the natural ecosystem, unfortunately a lot of farmers take joy in destroying dingo populations rather than finding a simple solution to coexist. If you hunt the predators then more will move in, if you get LGDs then none want to stick around
But coyotes are normally line predators, dingos go in packs and that lets them take down bigger prey. I know there's a lot of wolf-coyote hybrids in the US that also do packs, but proper normal coyotes are limited to prey smaller than themselves.
@@BankruptMonkeycoyotes do frequently hunt in packs, we’ve had the same pack living around our home for years up in Michigan, we can hear them howling together at night in the summers. Sometimes they prefer to be alone and sometimes they’ll pack up
Australia is so vast and empty of dense population ( good in my book ) but introduced or escaped species of animals have been evolving since even before early British settlement in the late 1700's. Of course rats and cats just took off from ships, even probably Dirk Harthog's exploration ship during the 1400's, like misguided missiles into thick bushlands and even learned to live in outback and desert areas.. My great, great grand parents had a feral cat's skin that was as big as a German Shepherd dog's coat and it was passed down through the family. Their grand parents settled in the Swan River Colony ( now Perth) of Western Australia where there had already been many French and Dutch explorers dropping in and also shipwrecking themselves for centuries along the western coast.. Also there were macassens, Indians, Chinese, Dutch and Spanish trading with the Aboriginal people at the northern coast line below what is now the islands of Indonesia. Very marshy, and beyond it they found empty sand for miles, infested with reptiles and disease carrying insects so nobody wanted to start a colony their. Many Aboriginal people had blindness from Sandy Blight due to swarming sandflies and leprosy caused through trading. Recently scientists studying dingos" genetics have found they are still a pure breed and kill feral, cats, foxes, rabbits that do damage to the environment. They stick to their region patrolling it daily and fill up on native species as well so don't need to add to their diet with domestic lambs or calves. Dingos could easily bring down a large animal by chasing it with the leaders changing positions back and forth with the tail enders of the hunting pack until wearing it out and bringing down the prey. Usually a larger kangaroo. Unless food is scarce due to drought, the dingos can just fill up on their natural native prey including marsupials and lizards also ground feeding parrots. They also have narrow chests for fitting into burrowing marsupials hollows and extremely long narrow muzzles with wide jaws for grabbing and hauling them out. They can scavenge the landscape for a wide variety of food that wild dogs cannot. Wild dogs will also frenzy kill, more than they need and leave carcasses, dingos do not. It really depends on the region, but wild dogs do not have the social skills of a dingo pack and lone and pack wild dogs will savage each other as much as domestic stock animals.
And further north, there are crocodiles. We've got one in the creek down the road, every so often takes a cow. Farmer can't do anything except ask for it to be relocated, but it's been there for years. It will become more of a problem the further south they go. And they are, because they are territorial. I guarantee you the laws will allow culling again in the next couple of years as they get closer to Brisbane.
Always the way. Culling is a no-go until it affects us city folk. I live in Brisbane, and my partner is from Cooktown. We talk a lot about moving back that way, and one time I said to him something along the lines of 'there's more sharks up that way, right?', and he said, 'yeah, but they're not that big a problem', and when I asked why, he said 'Well, the crocs eat them'. Arsehole.
Well honestly having seen what cattle in creeks do to the ecosystem they probably want to keep the crocodile there to keep detering cattle in the creek bed. Not saying that your cows should die that's just probably why they dont want to move the native predator out of its habitat.
I'm from the south east of South Australia - simmilar sheep country and only a few hundred km away. Crows are an issue if the sheep is stuck down, they will come in and start with taking out the eyes. If the ewe can't get up, they can't get away.
In France we hunted wolves until near extinction due to them going after sheep, but we reintroduced them a few years ago because not having a big predator like them in our ecosystem was pretty harmful. Sheep farmers weren't too happy about it, but wolves keep the wildlife population in check, which is desperately needed with the amount of damages caused by wild boars recently.
@@smolbluegoblin Yes English is very hard but what amazes me is how many people in Europe speak English and multiple other languages. Compared to us Brits and I doubt Americans are much better other than speaking a bit of Spanish
Kangaroos will want to try to fight you if they are big alpha males, koalas are always angry and hung over from being on the juice from eucalypt trees, Wombats will tear your ankles apart if you unaware go near their home
Yes. It always makes me laugh when Americans freak out about Australian wildlife. You guys literally have to bury your shit when you camping so bears don't attack you, in Australia you just have to keep the spiders and snakes out of your sleeping bag, if you zip up your tent you're absolutely fine. Going bush walking is just a matter of keeping an eye out so you don't step on a snake. If you live where there are dingos (with the exception of Fraser Island) they will generally be more afraid of you and just bugger off before you even know they're there. Though up far north Queensland they have cassowaries, they're murder chickens, you do have to look out for them. We don't have to worry about large predators at all. Occasional serial killers, yes. Predators, no.
NE Vic here, and I've seen the damage a wild dog pack can do to sheep in a friend's property. Thankfully, it only happened twice before the pack was hunted down and wiped out. The ewes had to be put down as the injuries were truly horrendous.
No. Almost all "wild dogs" are dingos. Calling them wild dogs is a euphemism for farmers to slaughter native animals. These people are disgusting. Get guardians and build dingo proof fences if you want to farm in their territory.
My friend brought her city bred dumb beautiful Afghan hound to the farm - took off like a streak and brought down a lamb at least 300m from us in about five seconds. Shocking. Had to put the lamb out of its misery. 😢.
Hunting hound so acting on instinct. It must have been horrific for you all. Hopefully your friend has learnt to either don't bring a dog or have it leashed all the time. Friends had a hobby farm and some idiots use to let their dogs roam. The amount of heartbreak those dogs caused to all the farms around. They were always locked up when the Ranger arrived. 😢
My experience with wild dogs and is cattle is that they tend to only go for those that are weak or ill. I have seen them attack cows when they are calving and the results are cruel.
As someone who works in invasive species - Yep, enough dogs/dingos working together can take down cows. Foxes mostly take lambs or finish off weak and vulnerable sheep, but wouldn’t commonly have success with healthy adult sheep. Not a predator, but another problematic invasive is feral cats which spread sarco and toxo to sheep. Toxo causes miscarriage or weak lambs, and sarco causes cysts in the meat which have to be removed at abattoir. Both decrease farm output and farmer income.
@@mktj1 crows pecked a 10cm hole in an alpacas "buttock" while the owner was standing next to her talking to the vet. She had just given birth and had blood on her rear, they had their backs to her dealing with the cria so in less than 10 minutes.
Used to live outside Grafton and I will never forget one night a huge pack of wild dogs attacked the cattle on the next property. They were howling all night, exactly like wolves. It was pretty horrifying.
Imagine hearing coyotes calling others in to hunt because it found food, followed by the howling. We hear it often, less than 100 meters from the back door of the house. Sometimes just 10 meters. Or hearing the American red fox screaming in the night. Sounds like a woman screaming in the forest somewhere. If you e never heard that, look it up, it's insane. Worse when you hear it at 11 pm sitting out by the fire and no one else is around.
Again, I don’t get why Americans are so afraid of Australia over spiders and snakes, we have about the same as them, what we don’t have is placental mammals roaming everywhere that cause havoc and that are much more dangerous than a nip by a snake or spider.
not rly the same. Australia has roughly 66 venomous snake species, US has 30, Au has over 3000 snake bites per year, about 300 die, US has about 7,000 per year and only roughly 5 people die, Australia has the most venomous spider in the world. The Sydney Funnel Web Spider, we pretty much have the brown recluse and the widows. We don’t have a “spider season” in the US like australia, thank the lord. honestly I think Australia is super cool but i couldn’t deal with the large bugs and venomous snakes. Luckily enough depending on where you live here wolves and bears are pretty rare to see unless you are in their territory, you spook them, or they are protecting cubs, very rare if they are hungry, cougars however are pretty much everywhere and you pretty much never see them unless it’s a fleeting glance or trail cam, but bet your bottom dollar they see you. only 4-6 cougar attacks in US and Canada every year, Only about one black bear attack in US yearly (black bears are more timid) between 2000 and 2015 only 2 dozen deaths from bears in north america. it’s pretty rare honestly. only 21 fatal wolf attacks here ever recorded over the course of 70 years. I am from Wyoming and never saw a bear face to face only on cameras and heard of sightings nearby.
@@upwardsandonwardshealing Lol, yeah the American telling the Australian what their own country is like. The most dangerous animals in Australia, by a long way, are horses, cows, and dogs. Australia has 2 snakebite fatalities per year, not 300 and since antivenom was introduced, there has not been a single spider bite fatality recorded. Try not getting all of your information from Americans telling you what a country they've never been to is like.
@@fsociety6983 none of that was from other americans that was a simple 10 minutes of basic research on statistics haha! and i would agree that livestock being the most dangerous animals there makes sense!
Here in Ontario, Canada I need to watch for coyotes and wolves for the most part. I’ve lost lambs to black bear as well but only once in a decade. Coyotes eat the stomach and move on.
On top the wolves we have coyotes. Pretty much a slighty smaller wolve that travels in a big pack. Fun fact the wolves started mating with the coyotes making stronger coyotes
They breed a lot more with stray/feral dogs, which is worse. Wolves at least still have the genes that make them afraid of humans; we've long since bred those genes out of dogs. Coydogs (hybrids) get all the cunning of their coyote parent, but _no fear of humans_ from the dog side.
I am in Missouri. We have bear, cougars/mountain lions, fox, coyotes, eagles (never seen them attack anything), and I think the occasional Wolf might come through sometimes. Blackhead Vultures can be a problem too I think. I have goats, pigs, and poultry. I haven't lost a thing in over a year with our livestock guardians. ❤
I’ve been watching another RUclipsr in Canada who has a sheep farm. I am wondering about your rate of preg tox and what do you do with the ewes that have it? and and how many sheep give birth to stillborns and disfigured / deformed lambs?. and if any of them survive what do you do with them?
We don't get a lot of pregnancy toxaemia because the sheep lamb in winter/spring here so they have good grass. It's caused by low levels of glucose in the blood because the foetuses demand higher levels in those last few weeks. For the ewes that show signs of it we give them some 4 in 1 minbal. It's a subcutaneous injection that picks them up quickly. I'm not sure about the percentages of still born lambs, it does depend on breed, weather, stress, ect. I'm not sure what you mean by disfigured? Do you mean under and over shot jaws? They're grown as fat lambs and any that would have been kept are culled from breeding.
On sandi brock’s page she has what she calls mummy stillborns lambs that basically have no bones spine just like rubber flesh that is shaped like a lamb but isn’t and she has also posted videos of lambs that are badly disfigured. Bent necks disfigured feet and faces. Majority of them passed away due to the disfigurement of their bodies sadly. But I’m curious if some of them if taken in as pets would survive into adulthood. Like we see with other animals like dogs that are born with abnormalities. Missing limbs or facial abnormalities.
@@jodiemelham2719 yes I do that is why I’m curious to see how Australian farmers do things. Because sandi brock has made me think about how different Australia is compared with Canada in the same sort of work. And surely other countries do things differently because of seasonal differences and things like that. But generally speaking I just want to know the difference between different countries and how they deal with different sheep issues. Because it’s interesting to know and see the differences and comparisons
I use livestock guardians for my goats, turkeys and chickens. We get coyotes, wolves, black bears, foxes, cougar, neighborhood dogs, and aren't far from grizzly territory. Haven't had to deal with a grizzly yet, but it would take a pack of Livestock guardians to deter grizzlies. They do use Boz Shepherds grouped with other types to deter grizzlies in some places in Montana and Wyoming, probably Idaho too, i know theres a lot of Pyrenees used for the mountain flocks that travel.
I was on a solar farm that use sheep as foliage control and a pack of dogs got into the fence... it was bad. They didn't even eat any of their kills, it was just sport. The farm was powering part of an island, so these dogs were pets that had been abandoned by locals.
Yeah wild dog packs can bring down cattle, doesn't happen all that often because they'd rather go for a calf or sheep but they'll go for an adult cow sometimes. Right up north crocs will get the livestock too.
Alot of homesteaders and ranchers in the US use livestock guardian dogs, and herding/cattle dogs like collies, but they also use llamas to help protect sheep and livestock
I remember having to go on lockdown in school because there was a cougar outside. We had to wait until fish & wildlife came and we finally got the ok that it was safe. The only difference was the door were locked to no stupid kids would go outside otherwise it was a regular school day.
You forgot the drop bears. They’re pretty ferocious too. Though they tend to stick to the bush land more, as the trees give them cover and mechanism. But if a core goes too close to a patch of eucalyptus, you never know.
Cattle farm Up in SEQ, lots of wild dogs, they love to use the river banks to go up and down the neighbouring farms. Have only seen them take live calf’s and carcasses..
I was going to say you forgot feral dogs, cats and pigs. And dingos aren't always up north, in the eastern wheat belt area of WA. and you forgot the crocs, they take cattle.
Wild dogs can take down cattle. Not on a station but semi rural and where I am there is often dog packs. They generally go for calves, sheep, and foals, but they have gone for horses and cattle and can be successful
Wolves are very rare in the US outside of conservation areas. Mostly, coyotes would be your problem, but they're usually pretty small(coywolves exist and range in size depending on how much dog and wolf genetics they have). Growing up in North Dakota, we were honeslty more worried about mountain lions eating one of our animals than coyotes. For the vast majority of Americans, a fox in the hen house is the worst predator. Also, raccoons can get pretty annoying.
In the Scenic Rim in south east Qld there are wild dogs that cause problems. My friend lost several sheep and lambs. The dogs work in a pack and attack for sport not to kill and eat.
I see so many videos of foreigners worrying about snakes and spiders when visiting here, and I'm a bit, nah, they're more scared of you than you are of them. But dingoes? Dingoes are just a fuck no. If I see a dingo hanging out somewhere we are, we're out. They aren't friendly, they cannot be domesticated. Humans are either prey or a threat, and hopefully just a curiosity. I'd never trust a dingo near anything I cared about with a pulse. Wild dog packs are such a problem because they are often a mix of abandoned species that have interbred with dingoes, and are now completely feral. On that note, has anyone had any problem with feral cats? I had a friend with a hobby farm that kept a limited number of pigs, and she had a feral cat hanging about, which wasn't a problem right up until it ripped a piglet apart, seemingly for sport.
“Tha dingyo ayt me baby” True story, it actually did and those parents were called baby kil///lers and had their lives destroyed all while dealing with the loss of their child….
Genuinely makes me wonder if there's like a moment where Australians realize that the Americans have 7 ft tall 1500 lb giant furry grizzly bears, and that that's insane to them like we're freaked about the snakes and spiders they're freaked out about them half ton murder machines
Australians are generally well educated about the world, so we know you have bears, so we don't need to 'realise" it, , but there's no reason to think about more than thart until we we're travelling there 😊
@@immaseahorse24 Like seriously, you replied to about a dozen comments, all in a sarcastic faux-superior tone. This isn't the behaviour of a happy/healthy person
We had a neighbour who had cows on a field next to our house. One early morning I was awoken by my hubby shouting and making loud noises. Upon inspection I saw a pack of dingoes going after a calf that was still half way in their mother. It was horrific but it’s nature.
Actually, Dingos are semi domesticated. Out of anything Wilder, the easier ones to adjust find the puppy usually. And bring home. Though, there's some laws and stuff about it,
We have coyotes over in eastern US where we have our flock, they don't really mess with the sheep here. We have more of an issue with peoples free roaming dogs if I'm being honest
Nah, we just have so many stations and herds that saying article-collective noun is reference to a singular herd, rather than saying the collective noun alone. We differentiate because what may be true on one station, might not be true on another, especially if they're on opposite sides of the continent.
Here in the United States, we have bears, wolves, foxes, bobcats, alligators, And eagles. All of them can make you have a very bad day if you cross their path.
The wild/village dogs, and dingos have been doing this for hundreds of years. Many people blamed Tasmanian tigers/thylacine. That was Australias larger land predator. Humans hunted them to extinction because it was believed they were killing livestock. While yes, they did, it was much more common (like today) for wild dogs and dingos to do the damage. Not rlly related to the video but just thought I’d make a historical connection :)
This is why livestock guardian dogs who live with the flock are coming back. There’s breeds who are really maternal and hang out among the flock, checking they are all ok, attacking attackers, and breeds that are territorial and circle paddocks looking outward for threats preemptively.
Dude...everything here wants your livestock and they know exactly how to do it an art form! I once watched a raccoon pull one of my chickens THROUGH a chicken wire fence. Blink of an eye just reached in and pulled it out like it was nothing. I also saw, i think they are called River martins.. a brown weasel thing kinda small, it attacked and killed a GOAT. Given it was a small goat...it was still a goat. I thought they only ate fìsh up to that point
Dog packs can bring down a cow but since they generally stick together in a larger herd it doesn't tend to be a problem (i'm speaking from what my cattle rancher friend told me). There's not enough space for wild dogs to really run the cattle pick off a weak one. calves are the targets usually but with highly protective mamas and them sticking with the herd, same deal. The problem is actually wild dog packs hunting you lmaoo, my friend told me that if it's night time and you've accidentally closed yoursself into a paddock with the gate you do not get out of the car, you sleep there.
My country, Czechia, has seen some re-introduction of wolves in the recent years and many sheep "farmers" complain about it, but the majority of taken sheep are from wild dogs as well. And the "farmers" aren't there, they just keep their sheep in a paddock and come check on them like twice a week, they don't even own a dog! Farmers who do it right and have dogs around their sheep never loose any.
My family used to have sheep on forested land in the western US, but quit shortly after the second cougar started picking them off one by one.
That's brutal!
Cougars on east coast go after young guys
I'm reasonably sure the old school method of dealing with cougars would not have been allowed for them to use. The old way was to take a lamb/calf/foal away from its mother, tether it to a tree in the middle of a field, and sit and wait for the baby to start crying for mama. Cougar'll come for the crying infant (aka easy meal) and gets picked off by rancher w/ firearm.
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You can't shoot cougars/mountain lions on your own land? I don't think Texas has gotten this memo.
@@astra1653 I don't know about the laws and regs for all states, so it's very likely illegal in some places.
The Cougars club poster got me 💀
I about fell off my chair laughing 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Tara, you are priceless!!
My aunt has a cattle farm in the upper Hunter in NSW, never had wild dogs go after a fully grown cow (and she does a small breed that rarely grows horns), but they used to rip apart her ducks and sheep regularly before she got a couple LGDs. Those dogs are a godsend. Their mere presence tends to keep other dogs and dingoes away.
She'd get foxes and wedgies taking lambs and attacking lambing ewes, as you said, as well as ravens on occassion. Hardest thing she taught her dogs was to look up.
Hah Im an Aussie living in the US now, but I got a rescue German shepherd that is fucking obsessed with controlling the airspace above my property. Hates birds passionately and even barks at planes 😂
I want to get me a Pyrenees. So bad.
LGDs are the best livestock protective measure that'll actually stay effective and not affect the natural ecosystem, unfortunately a lot of farmers take joy in destroying dingo populations rather than finding a simple solution to coexist. If you hunt the predators then more will move in, if you get LGDs then none want to stick around
I look at dingos like they're the equivalent to our coyotes.
They’re kinda similar except I think the population of coyotes is upwards of 1 million and dingoes have a population of less than 50,000.
But coyotes are normally line predators, dingos go in packs and that lets them take down bigger prey. I know there's a lot of wolf-coyote hybrids in the US that also do packs, but proper normal coyotes are limited to prey smaller than themselves.
What about the drop bears?
@@BankruptMonkeydamn are the animals using napoleonic tactics against us now?
@@BankruptMonkeycoyotes do frequently hunt in packs, we’ve had the same pack living around our home for years up in Michigan, we can hear them howling together at night in the summers. Sometimes they prefer to be alone and sometimes they’ll pack up
Also feral cats. In some areas they are definitely big enough to kill newborn lambs. The Australian feral cats are becoming their own subspecies.
Damn... so they reverted to ALL the African Wildcat genes, sounds like! I would almost wish I could find myself so.eone to send me a few of those!
I have a few rescue formal feral cats.. they are big. Their mother though .. she was the size of a corgi.
No they haven't, and feral cats aren't edgey bro @@melhawk6284
I know they are terrible for the ecosystem but I didn't know they were experiencing a fast evolution, I wish to see studies about it
Australia is so vast and empty of dense population ( good in my book ) but introduced or escaped species of animals have been evolving since even before early British settlement in the late 1700's. Of course rats and cats just took off from ships, even probably Dirk Harthog's exploration ship during the 1400's, like misguided missiles into thick bushlands and even learned to live in outback and desert areas.. My great, great grand parents had a feral cat's skin that was as big as a German Shepherd dog's coat and it was passed down through the family. Their grand parents settled in the Swan River Colony ( now Perth) of Western Australia where there had already been many French and Dutch explorers dropping in and also shipwrecking themselves for centuries along the western coast..
Also there were macassens, Indians, Chinese, Dutch and Spanish trading with the Aboriginal people at the northern coast line below what is now the islands of Indonesia. Very marshy, and beyond it they found empty sand for miles, infested with reptiles and disease carrying insects so nobody wanted to start a colony their. Many Aboriginal people had blindness from Sandy Blight due to swarming sandflies and leprosy caused through trading.
Recently scientists studying dingos" genetics have found they are still a pure breed and kill feral, cats, foxes, rabbits that do damage to the environment. They stick to their region patrolling it daily and fill up on native species as well so don't need to add to their diet with domestic lambs or calves. Dingos could easily bring down a large animal by chasing it with the leaders changing positions back and forth with the tail enders of the hunting pack until wearing it out and bringing down the prey. Usually a larger kangaroo. Unless food is scarce due to drought, the dingos can just fill up on their natural native prey including marsupials and lizards also ground feeding parrots. They also have narrow chests for fitting into burrowing marsupials hollows and extremely long narrow muzzles with wide jaws for grabbing and hauling them out. They can scavenge the landscape for a wide variety of food that wild dogs cannot. Wild dogs will also frenzy kill, more than they need and leave carcasses, dingos do not. It really depends on the region, but wild dogs do not have the social skills of a dingo pack and lone and pack wild dogs will savage each other as much as domestic stock animals.
And further north, there are crocodiles. We've got one in the creek down the road, every so often takes a cow. Farmer can't do anything except ask for it to be relocated, but it's been there for years. It will become more of a problem the further south they go. And they are, because they are territorial. I guarantee you the laws will allow culling again in the next couple of years as they get closer to Brisbane.
Always the way. Culling is a no-go until it affects us city folk. I live in Brisbane, and my partner is from Cooktown. We talk a lot about moving back that way, and one time I said to him something along the lines of 'there's more sharks up that way, right?', and he said, 'yeah, but they're not that big a problem', and when I asked why, he said 'Well, the crocs eat them'. Arsehole.
Well honestly having seen what cattle in creeks do to the ecosystem they probably want to keep the crocodile there to keep detering cattle in the creek bed. Not saying that your cows should die that's just probably why they dont want to move the native predator out of its habitat.
I love this channels humor. I learn a hell of alot too. Love the hard work and dedication you put into ur farm.
Your sense of humor is peak, young lady. I love it ❤
No one mentioning her roasting herself in the captions: "A cattle? Wtf?" Lol! 😂
Grew up on a dairy farm in Far North Queensland. The main preditor for our stock was snakes
I was wondering why snakes and spiders weren't mentioned.
Americans seem more scared of them than bears!
I learned about the crows attacking lambs and preggo ewes from this channel. I can never look at crows or magpies the same way now
It's a bit of a myth. The current knowledge is that crows only go for lambs that have already died or are just about to.
Think of crows as cleaning bird like vultures.
I'm from the south east of South Australia - simmilar sheep country and only a few hundred km away. Crows are an issue if the sheep is stuck down, they will come in and start with taking out the eyes. If the ewe can't get up, they can't get away.
In France we hunted wolves until near extinction due to them going after sheep, but we reintroduced them a few years ago because not having a big predator like them in our ecosystem was pretty harmful. Sheep farmers weren't too happy about it, but wolves keep the wildlife population in check, which is desperately needed with the amount of damages caused by wild boars recently.
Plural of "sheep" is "sheep."
@@user-dh6bj2me5p thank you for the correction ! English is hard.
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Yes English is very hard but what amazes me is how many people in Europe speak English and multiple other languages.
Compared to us Brits and I doubt Americans are much better other than speaking a bit of Spanish
Fun fact, you can use donkeys to protect sheep from wolves. They hate anything dog-shaped with a passion and will attack first.
@@tymondabrowski12some may, I've seen some decide to investigate then run off because the dog shaped thing smelled funny, or something.
Wait,,,So yall can just.... Walk in the woods without fear of being attacked by a predator animal? 😮🤯
Kangaroos will want to try to fight you if they are big alpha males,
koalas are always angry and hung over from being on the juice from eucalypt trees,
Wombats will tear your ankles apart if you unaware go near their home
Yea thats what happens when you keep intoducing invasive species in a isolated system, you get low biodiversity.
I bet you have to worry about all the venomous stuff
@@godparticle3833 Mate its a giant desert, there wasn't many large predators to begin with
Yes. It always makes me laugh when Americans freak out about Australian wildlife. You guys literally have to bury your shit when you camping so bears don't attack you, in Australia you just have to keep the spiders and snakes out of your sleeping bag, if you zip up your tent you're absolutely fine.
Going bush walking is just a matter of keeping an eye out so you don't step on a snake. If you live where there are dingos (with the exception of Fraser Island) they will generally be more afraid of you and just bugger off before you even know they're there.
Though up far north Queensland they have cassowaries, they're murder chickens, you do have to look out for them.
We don't have to worry about large predators at all. Occasional serial killers, yes. Predators, no.
NE Vic here, and I've seen the damage a wild dog pack can do to sheep in a friend's property. Thankfully, it only happened twice before the pack was hunted down and wiped out. The ewes had to be put down as the injuries were truly horrendous.
I’m in NE Vic and it’s an ongoing battle with wild dogs and also foxes
LGDs would have fixed that problem better
No. Almost all "wild dogs" are dingos. Calling them wild dogs is a euphemism for farmers to slaughter native animals. These people are disgusting. Get guardians and build dingo proof fences if you want to farm in their territory.
My friend brought her city bred dumb beautiful Afghan hound to the farm - took off like a streak and brought down a lamb at least 300m from us in about five seconds. Shocking. Had to put the lamb out of its misery. 😢.
Hunting hound so acting on instinct. It must have been horrific for you all. Hopefully your friend has learnt to either don't bring a dog or have it leashed all the time.
Friends had a hobby farm and some idiots use to let their dogs roam. The amount of heartbreak those dogs caused to all the farms around. They were always locked up when the Ranger arrived. 😢
That must have been horrible, I've never heard of sighthounds going after sheep or lambs, I'll keep it in mind from now on
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My experience with wild dogs and is cattle is that they tend to only go for those that are weak or ill. I have seen them attack cows when they are calving and the results are cruel.
As someone who works in invasive species -
Yep, enough dogs/dingos working together can take down cows.
Foxes mostly take lambs or finish off weak and vulnerable sheep, but wouldn’t commonly have success with healthy adult sheep.
Not a predator, but another problematic invasive is feral cats which spread sarco and toxo to sheep. Toxo causes miscarriage or weak lambs, and sarco causes cysts in the meat which have to be removed at abattoir. Both decrease farm output and farmer income.
Also I suppose the other sheep predator not mentioned are ravens/crows? Same deal with foxes, but I know they can be a pain.
Some of the feral cats are getting big enough to tackle newborn lambs and they definitely have fun in the chook house.
@@mktj1 crows pecked a 10cm hole in an alpacas "buttock" while the owner was standing next to her talking to the vet. She had just given birth and had blood on her rear, they had their backs to her dealing with the cria so in less than 10 minutes.
My brother in law has some ewes, lambs and chickens, feral cats are definitely becoming a bigger problem than he first thought.
Used to live outside Grafton and I will never forget one night a huge pack of wild dogs attacked the cattle on the next property. They were howling all night, exactly like wolves. It was pretty horrifying.
😮 I know how that feels I live on a farm (mostly vege) and dingos used to howl at night and damn dingo howls are scary
I live near there too and yep, they'll go a full size cow, horses, and anything else they can try and eat.
Imagine hearing coyotes calling others in to hunt because it found food, followed by the howling.
We hear it often, less than 100 meters from the back door of the house. Sometimes just 10 meters.
Or hearing the American red fox screaming in the night. Sounds like a woman screaming in the forest somewhere. If you e never heard that, look it up, it's insane. Worse when you hear it at 11 pm sitting out by the fire and no one else is around.
@AscheOfTheLake Crikey! That sounds hellish. Australia might have deadly snakes and spiders but at least they are quiet.
Again, I don’t get why Americans are so afraid of Australia over spiders and snakes, we have about the same as them, what we don’t have is placental mammals roaming everywhere that cause havoc and that are much more dangerous than a nip by a snake or spider.
not rly the same. Australia has roughly 66 venomous snake species, US has 30, Au has over 3000 snake bites per year, about 300 die, US has about 7,000 per year and only roughly 5 people die, Australia has the most venomous spider in the world. The Sydney Funnel Web Spider, we pretty much have the brown recluse and the widows. We don’t have a “spider season” in the US like australia, thank the lord. honestly I think Australia is super cool but i couldn’t deal with the large bugs and venomous snakes. Luckily enough depending on where you live here wolves and bears are pretty rare to see unless you are in their territory, you spook them, or they are protecting cubs, very rare if they are hungry, cougars however are pretty much everywhere and you pretty much never see them unless it’s a fleeting glance or trail cam, but bet your bottom dollar they see you. only 4-6 cougar attacks in US and Canada every year, Only about one black bear attack in US yearly (black bears are more timid) between 2000 and 2015 only 2 dozen deaths from bears in north america. it’s pretty rare honestly. only 21 fatal wolf attacks here ever recorded over the course of 70 years. I am from Wyoming and never saw a bear face to face only on cameras and heard of sightings nearby.
@@upwardsandonwardshealing Lol, yeah the American telling the Australian what their own country is like.
The most dangerous animals in Australia, by a long way, are horses, cows, and dogs. Australia has 2 snakebite fatalities per year, not 300 and since antivenom was introduced, there has not been a single spider bite fatality recorded.
Try not getting all of your information from Americans telling you what a country they've never been to is like.
@@fsociety6983 none of that was from other americans that was a simple 10 minutes of basic research on statistics haha! and i would agree that livestock being the most dangerous animals there makes sense!
Here in Ontario, Canada I need to watch for coyotes and wolves for the most part. I’ve lost lambs to black bear as well but only once in a decade. Coyotes eat the stomach and move on.
On top the wolves we have coyotes. Pretty much a slighty smaller wolve that travels in a big pack. Fun fact the wolves started mating with the coyotes making stronger coyotes
They breed a lot more with stray/feral dogs, which is worse. Wolves at least still have the genes that make them afraid of humans; we've long since bred those genes out of dogs. Coydogs (hybrids) get all the cunning of their coyote parent, but _no fear of humans_ from the dog side.
She spoke about coyetes
This girl is amazing 😂😍
I am in Missouri. We have bear, cougars/mountain lions, fox, coyotes, eagles (never seen them attack anything), and I think the occasional Wolf might come through sometimes. Blackhead Vultures can be a problem too I think.
I have goats, pigs, and poultry. I haven't lost a thing in over a year with our livestock guardians. ❤
Wedgetail Eagles go after our lambs. they are protected too, so we can't touch them.
They are majestic when they are in the air, though.
Why would you? They are the most glorious creatures to grace our skies. Truly regal animals
Ugg I just lost a calf to a bald eagle. It killed and consumed it. Being in the United States, I just had to watch. It was heartbreaking.
I loved your comment about the cougars! I about fell off my chair laughing!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Tara, you are priceless!!!💖
"A dingo ate your baby!" IYKYK. 😂❤
I loce 6ou. You're just such a beautiful, humorous and vivid soul.
I’ve been watching another RUclipsr in Canada who has a sheep farm.
I am wondering about your rate of preg tox and what do you do with the ewes that have it? and and how many sheep give birth to stillborns and disfigured / deformed lambs?. and if any of them survive what do you do with them?
We don't get a lot of pregnancy toxaemia because the sheep lamb in winter/spring here so they have good grass. It's caused by low levels of glucose in the blood because the foetuses demand higher levels in those last few weeks. For the ewes that show signs of it we give them some 4 in 1 minbal. It's a subcutaneous injection that picks them up quickly.
I'm not sure about the percentages of still born lambs, it does depend on breed, weather, stress, ect.
I'm not sure what you mean by disfigured? Do you mean under and over shot jaws? They're grown as fat lambs and any that would have been kept are culled from breeding.
Do you sandy brock
On sandi brock’s page she has what she calls mummy stillborns lambs that basically have no bones spine just like rubber flesh that is shaped like a lamb but isn’t and she has also posted videos of lambs that are badly disfigured. Bent necks disfigured feet and faces. Majority of them passed away due to the disfigurement of their bodies sadly. But I’m curious if some of them if taken in as pets would survive into adulthood. Like we see with other animals like dogs that are born with abnormalities. Missing limbs or facial abnormalities.
@@jodiemelham2719 yes I do that is why I’m curious to see how Australian farmers do things. Because sandi brock has made me think about how different Australia is compared with Canada in the same sort of work. And surely other countries do things differently because of seasonal differences and things like that. But generally speaking I just want to know the difference between different countries and how they deal with different sheep issues.
Because it’s interesting to know and see the differences and comparisons
@@krazynocturnal93 I haven't seen a rubber sheep before. That's crazy. When we have stillborns it just means that they were born dead.
I use livestock guardians for my goats, turkeys and chickens. We get coyotes, wolves, black bears, foxes, cougar, neighborhood dogs, and aren't far from grizzly territory. Haven't had to deal with a grizzly yet, but it would take a pack of Livestock guardians to deter grizzlies. They do use Boz Shepherds grouped with other types to deter grizzlies in some places in Montana and Wyoming, probably Idaho too, i know theres a lot of Pyrenees used for the mountain flocks that travel.
I was on a solar farm that use sheep as foliage control and a pack of dogs got into the fence... it was bad. They didn't even eat any of their kills, it was just sport. The farm was powering part of an island, so these dogs were pets that had been abandoned by locals.
Yeah wild dog packs can bring down cattle, doesn't happen all that often because they'd rather go for a calf or sheep but they'll go for an adult cow sometimes. Right up north crocs will get the livestock too.
Alot of homesteaders and ranchers in the US use livestock guardian dogs, and herding/cattle dogs like collies, but they also use llamas to help protect sheep and livestock
Was curious. In N.C. we have coyotes and bears that can work on the calves when they drop.
We have wild dogs here in West gippy - especially where we are as we boarder the forest. But like you it's mostly foxes and Eagles.
I remember having to go on lockdown in school because there was a cougar outside. We had to wait until fish & wildlife came and we finally got the ok that it was safe. The only difference was the door were locked to no stupid kids would go outside otherwise it was a regular school day.
You forgot the drop bears. They’re pretty ferocious too. Though they tend to stick to the bush land more, as the trees give them cover and mechanism. But if a core goes too close to a patch of eucalyptus, you never know.
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In south africa I also have sheep and the predators we have are jackals and non trained dogs
Cattle farm Up in SEQ, lots of wild dogs, they love to use the river banks to go up and down the neighbouring farms. Have only seen them take live calf’s and carcasses..
I was going to say you forgot feral dogs, cats and pigs. And dingos aren't always up north, in the eastern wheat belt area of WA. and you forgot the crocs, they take cattle.
Yeah we get them in Bunbury and Dardanup, heard some people found some roaming near the outer parts of Perth too.
She didn't forget, she said let us know in the comments for people who live in other regions
Wild dogs can take down cattle. Not on a station but semi rural and where I am there is often dog packs. They generally go for calves, sheep, and foals, but they have gone for horses and cattle and can be successful
Wolves are very rare in the US outside of conservation areas. Mostly, coyotes would be your problem, but they're usually pretty small(coywolves exist and range in size depending on how much dog and wolf genetics they have). Growing up in North Dakota, we were honeslty more worried about mountain lions eating one of our animals than coyotes. For the vast majority of Americans, a fox in the hen house is the worst predator. Also, raccoons can get pretty annoying.
Dingoes used to get the occasional calf on my parents' station, once had a boar taking down young sheep as well.
Us aussies are kinda lucky in the department of predators😅
Bears can be hell on sheep flocks here in the western us. Not to mention coyotes, if you want to see a coyote hang out around sheep.
In the Scenic Rim in south east Qld there are wild dogs that cause problems. My friend lost several sheep and lambs. The dogs work in a pack and attack for sport not to kill and eat.
Good info! I did not know this. Thank you
A mate ran sheep out at Barcaldine, qld. She said the crows will go for newborn lambs eyes. :( She hates them with a vengeance.
I see so many videos of foreigners worrying about snakes and spiders when visiting here, and I'm a bit, nah, they're more scared of you than you are of them. But dingoes? Dingoes are just a fuck no. If I see a dingo hanging out somewhere we are, we're out. They aren't friendly, they cannot be domesticated. Humans are either prey or a threat, and hopefully just a curiosity. I'd never trust a dingo near anything I cared about with a pulse. Wild dog packs are such a problem because they are often a mix of abandoned species that have interbred with dingoes, and are now completely feral.
On that note, has anyone had any problem with feral cats? I had a friend with a hobby farm that kept a limited number of pigs, and she had a feral cat hanging about, which wasn't a problem right up until it ripped a piglet apart, seemingly for sport.
Emus aren't predators, they're terrorists of a foreign power. Damn Emutopia...
We had dingos pinching our calves and piglets, but nothing fully grown.
😂😂😂.... A cattle,you legend 🤣🤣🤣
Hello Ontario Canada here, we have dog packs out here. Few years ago in Morristown they were attacking the young livestock, cows and horses included.
In the mid of the eastern side we have foxes, wild dogs, crows, eagles.
I adore your no b.s. attitude btw ❤
Thanks for the Cali 🔥😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
“Tha dingyo ayt me baby”
True story, it actually did and those parents were called baby kil///lers and had their lives destroyed all while dealing with the loss of their child….
Yes we know. It was the one role Meryl Streep caused harm to someone with, with that ridiculous accent.
Cougars😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂luvvit Tara🤩
In South African the foxes sometimes go for the stumic ripping out the organs and just hang around for it to die
Genuinely makes me wonder if there's like a moment where Australians realize that the Americans have 7 ft tall 1500 lb giant furry grizzly bears, and that that's insane to them like we're freaked about the snakes and spiders they're freaked out about them half ton murder machines
Australians are generally well educated about the world, so we know you have bears, so we don't need to 'realise" it, , but there's no reason to think about more than thart until we we're travelling there 😊
@@immaseahorse24 Like seriously, you replied to about a dozen comments, all in a sarcastic faux-superior tone. This isn't the behaviour of a happy/healthy person
My family here in Queensland used to have sheep, but a decade ago, wild dogs picked off every last one.
Family was heartbroken and gave up on sheep.
I know a snake can kill Cattle but I guess it be the same for sheep
We had a neighbour who had cows on a field next to our house. One early morning I was awoken by my hubby shouting and making loud noises. Upon inspection I saw a pack of dingoes going after a calf that was still half way in their mother. It was horrific but it’s nature.
You forgot about the dropbears!!!
I am in Victoria, and we have started seeing more and more wild dogs.
A Dingo ate my baby! Terrible story, but I think of that every time I hear Dingo
Yeah just don't, you're right, it Isn't funny.
Actually, Dingos are semi domesticated. Out of anything Wilder, the easier ones to adjust find the puppy usually. And bring home. Though, there's some laws and stuff about it,
We have coyotes over in eastern US where we have our flock, they don't really mess with the sheep here. We have more of an issue with peoples free roaming dogs if I'm being honest
I was fully ready to accept “a cattle” as an Australian term for a cow or bull😂
Nah, we just have so many stations and herds that saying article-collective noun is reference to a singular herd, rather than saying the collective noun alone. We differentiate because what may be true on one station, might not be true on another, especially if they're on opposite sides of the continent.
@@audreydoyle5268 I was talking about when she said “a cattle” and then laughed at herself for it lol
In Britain our main predators are foxes badgers and buzzards which like you said will only attack lambs
One of the local farmers got attacked 3 imes in 5 days last week, by domestic dogs,
Here in the United States, we have bears, wolves, foxes, bobcats, alligators, And eagles.
All of them can make you have a very bad day if you cross their path.
Fun facts
Dingos are actually descendants of Domesticated dogs!
they just turned wild after being released in australia
The wild/village dogs, and dingos have been doing this for hundreds of years. Many people blamed Tasmanian tigers/thylacine. That was Australias larger land predator. Humans hunted them to extinction because it was believed they were killing livestock. While yes, they did, it was much more common (like today) for wild dogs and dingos to do the damage. Not rlly related to the video but just thought I’d make a historical connection :)
This is why livestock guardian dogs who live with the flock are coming back. There’s breeds who are really maternal and hang out among the flock, checking they are all ok, attacking attackers, and breeds that are territorial and circle paddocks looking outward for threats preemptively.
Very interesting
That dingo looks a lot like my dog! Huh... maybe he's not a dog...
Cattle is singular and plural. You're good. :)
Cougars, California & nyc & Atlanta & Miami
Dude...everything here wants your livestock and they know exactly how to do it an art form! I once watched a raccoon pull one of my chickens THROUGH a chicken wire fence. Blink of an eye just reached in and pulled it out like it was nothing. I also saw, i think they are called River martins.. a brown weasel thing kinda small, it attacked and killed a GOAT. Given it was a small goat...it was still a goat. I thought they only ate fìsh up to that point
Dog packs can bring down a cow but since they generally stick together in a larger herd it doesn't tend to be a problem (i'm speaking from what my cattle rancher friend told me). There's not enough space for wild dogs to really run the cattle pick off a weak one. calves are the targets usually but with highly protective mamas and them sticking with the herd, same deal. The problem is actually wild dog packs hunting you lmaoo, my friend told me that if it's night time and you've accidentally closed yoursself into a paddock with the gate you do not get out of the car, you sleep there.
My country, Czechia, has seen some re-introduction of wolves in the recent years and many sheep "farmers" complain about it, but the majority of taken sheep are from wild dogs as well. And the "farmers" aren't there, they just keep their sheep in a paddock and come check on them like twice a week, they don't even own a dog! Farmers who do it right and have dogs around their sheep never loose any.
I laughed out LOUD and had to pause after that ...cougars picture.
Yep wild dogs are quite prevalent in some areas.
Just remember dingos are an apex predator in australia
I'm always surprised Americans are scared of Australian spiders and snakes when they have bears and cougars!!
It's weird to be this early...
Welcome!
You missed the famous shape shifter in America! Commonly known as the Coyote! Not to be confused with the Coyote Ugly Saloon in N Y !
We really don't have that many cougars and wolves in the US. Even the bears are pretty small
We have not just foxes and eagles but also wild dogs and pigs
The one predator that is least controlled but needs the most is human
I see why you guys raise so much sheep over there, at least outside, less predators!
Please tell us about the great dingo fence (bonus points for the rabbit fence out west)
There's also wild pigs that cause issues.
It's a head trip to consider Canada more dangerous in some ways than Australia
Dingo's will go after the calf's or a dying cow but a dingo's facourite food is kangaroo and theres plenty of them getting about.
Wild dogs take the odd calf round here. nth nsw. More things will take a farmer out rather than their stock.
Forgotten we DO have predators in the US.