Will AI Kill Art? 🤖
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- Опубликовано: 3 июл 2023
- Does AI deserve to be called an artist? What exactly do we consider a “masterpiece”? In this video, we'll explore the impact of AI on the creative field and discuss the implications of its growing influence.
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No, AI won't replace art because rich people will still want something unique and can pay for something not made by a machine.
Any people will want it too :)
@@CuriousMuse True, but are less able to pay for it.
@@Catlily5 still though.
No, Ai doesn’t have the human spirit or their unique life experiences. It just copies from humans.
But what if it learns to be very good at it?
@@CuriousMuseIt means it will simulate the expressions of real artists and their inspiration, but it will never create something truly original. Art needs constant renewal to exist, and that requires artistic inspiration from a world beyond the art. An art AI program does not live in such a world, and therefore is unable to provide this.
It's like someone said; "Provide the AI the complete works of Mozart and it will create unique material that sounds just like his. But the AI will never evolve on its own into Beethoven."
Biggest cope I have ever heard, human spirit is computation too.
@@arthurmorgan2961 You’re clearly not that familiar with the subject if you don’t understand that the lack of information input results in a system that is dependent on existing data. Artistic evolution happens when human beings experience the world and then interpret that into art. Unless you believe in Skynet and cyborgs, then you should know that is something AI is incapable of doing.
@@FantasticOtto Well AI is already winning art competitions, and is virtually indistinguishable from human art at such an early stage . It is 100% percent capable of creativity even though it takes inspiration and is trained on human art, the same can be said for humans as well. Being on top of the food chain for thousands of years has made human beings way too pretentious. Who is to say you or me are not ai chatbots, there is no way to prove that beyond a reasonable doubt.I would like to see you speak with such confidence in 10 years.
If anything it’ll raise the value of human art
🎉🎉🎉
Only for a few. Don't kid yourself.
In the 1960s, after the invention of the Moog synthesizer, there was some worries of the synthesizer replacing all musical instrument and even musicians. This fear grew until the 80s and then just faded. Over 4 decades later, people still make music with conventional instruments; even reviving old instruments (like the mandolin & the harpsichord). And people to this day are still paying to see musicians play theses instrument. The synthesizer never replaced anyone or anything; only supplemented. So I don't believe artists & art lovers need fear anyone or anything being replaced by AI art.
The problem with your comparison is, not every one can play a musical instrument. But, most people can type a prompt to create AI art
Humans have been painting/creating art since we lived in caves. The oldest cave painting is appx. 64,000 years old. Thousands of years has passed, countless tech innovations have been created from printmaking to photography to computer software... yet humans are still painting and creating art.
Art you buy is art you like, all art is you. It’s the mirror image of your like
AI is pushing the legislation around art ownership more than it is pushing the medium or what it is to be an artist. AI, Photo Editors and Cameras are all tools. Collage artists use clippings from magazines. Are they just crafters or artists? Do they have a claim on the resulting work or should they credit the creators and owners of the pieces they clipped up and pasted together?
Here's my final take: The more we automate the more value there is to the hand made. Think about the meal you last ate at a quality restaurant then contrast it with the last time you had a genuine, quality, home cooked meal made just for you and then compare them both to a fast food lunch you grabbed between classes or on your work break. There is value in each and a place for them all in our society but I'm sure most reading this will pine for that home cooked meal that their nana would make just for them.
Love you, Nana.
I think it will be the same as a movie vs. theater competition. AI will definitely kill art, but in what sense? Did a movie kill a theater? Well, no, but actually yes.
Indeed, we shall see 😗
The problem is, already people have a hard time telling what is AI generated and what isn't. Theater and movie are 2 very different art forms, but AI can generate images that look exactly like human made and it will only get better in the future.
We may soon enter in the age of theater revitalization. Once i subscribed to netflix and become bored of obnoxious pumping of new series and movies and those may become more rampant with ai. Now I only watch movie recap 😂
IDK... I am a digital artist, and I still like doing everything _"Old School,"_ such as starting from scratch, shaping everything piece by piece, layer for layer, and then doing the perspective layout (if any), then finally the lighting/texturing effects... Most don't go for that because of the work involved... They want just a couple of "pull points", enter in a few number values, and everything is complete after that!
Did you write the script for this video using AI? 😂😜
I asked my question before the video was over, just for the record!
Guess! :)
@@CuriousMusemy guess is nobody I know talks like this, not even my Journalism major friends.
All I can say is my art sales dropped to near zero once Midjourney and Dall-E became widely used. I can't say for sure that AI alone caused my sales to crash to nothing but it must have been a factor. I used to sell paintings every month, this year I've sold two. I've come to the conclusion that art is now only a hobby, nothing wrong with that I guess but I have a hard time being motivated to make art solely for myself, maybe that's a sign I'm not really an artist anyway.
So it's full circle. Art commenced as a hobby. For the longest period in history, Art wasn't commercial.
As you may recall, it wasn't until later that a little progress was made in the faciliration of Art output, so poor were most artists that gifted Artists required patrons/ benefactors to assist them. Benefactors kept them on retainer, so to speak, liberating them to the freedom to create.
Its only that in the last centuries, the world has gotten more and more consumerism providing a viable source of living through Art sales. But that hasn't been sustainable because supply has been skyrocketing, thereby reducing price command.
You asked the important question up front: how can we tell the difference between art and junk when we don’t even know what art is? Current society has strayed so far away from art that it’s no longer taught in some schools. There’s less of an appreciation for it compared to things that are logical algorithmic, formulaic, and conforming. Btw that’s what AI does. Take input and spit it right back at us. Fulfilling expectations, solving an equation or following formulas. No matter what the AI peeps tell you, there’s nothing truly creative about AI art. And since we as a society don’t value art like our ancestors did, a lot of us would favor the “style” of AI art over human art. So if you want to change that, teach more art in school.
“There’s no depth in education without art” 👌🏻
I'd argue that in some cases, those that still teach art for instance suck at it - recently stumbled across an old book on drawing cartoons (as in, for publication in print media), and things like color theory, etc ... the way it was explained in the book was a million times better than any explanation I got in art class in school.
@@gondoravalon7540 sad but true. It says something when RUclips art and history channels do a better job teaching art history / appreciation than our own schools.
I fucking like Ai it helps a lot with lot of things related to concept and design, then here you are the artist to decide what fit your picture or not
When it gets going the only barrier is going to be the computing power of machines. I think more artist should forbid their unique style being borrowed or fed into into these AI programs.
Cattle Decapitation : Scourge of the Offspring is an AI music video
And how do you find it?
@@CuriousMuse novel
I'm not rich. I buy from local artists. Human ones. And I would boycott any museum that displayed AI "art".
Did you see the last Years if Bienale of Venice? Did you see recently some Galleries from New York or other cities? Garbige!
Why garbage? :)
@@CuriousMuse Conceptualism and some abstract paintings, collages. Ex dirty ground with used canneds on the floor; you know, like Marcel Duchamp. For me it isn’t art. Only interesting conceptualist is Yayoi Kusama and the last good abstract paintings were in the 60. There are still good painters, but it isn’t a general phenomenon. I’m not an expert, only a doctor
Sorry - abstract expressionism ( years ‘60)
So fucking ironic that this video is voiced by AI and no one got it.
Jamais ! C'est le seul domaine qui n'a de limite que l'imagination, et l'IA n'en à pas. On s'en servira, on exposera, on se fera avoir, on aimera surement ça, mais elle ( l'IA ) ne captera jamais tte la subtilité de la créativité qui nous caractérise.
Creativity will win 🏆💪🏻
AI is reproduction of man made old stuff but it will boost the value of original art work. Being an artist I'm not against any form of art like NFT or digital art but there is a room for everyone working in any field of life.
the coypright is an issue but not so the result. no reason to call this not art. just has to be clear that the art in that case is AI generated and also how to follow routines established by humans
And the worst thing about the copyright is that no one knows what will happen next
@@CuriousMuse true
I mean referencing photography is not cheap and referencing modern artists is unethical, but refurbished ai art seems more chill to use
There is so much bad art that even ai seems good
There’s no bad art, it’s just how we perceive it ☺️
@@CuriousMuse I haven't seen the video. It's on my watch later list but I really think some places like deviantart will be a cemetery and I think it's ok.
Real artists should be fine. I guess.
@@CuriousMuse eh I've seen the video. I think there is a lot of improvement possible in Ai art but it really is something with some particular usage. Digital illustration and low skilled artists will have a lot of problems. Who can create real things can have an advantage I guess. But I think it's really too early to know.
photography already killed art
Oh, did it? 🥲
It looks like things happened to interpreters, Iwas an interpreter, a good one. Translated from chinese to english and backwards. Like twenty years ago i was pretty sure, just like you are that machine will never able to understand human's speach and language. Did it fully understand, id say no. But when a guy has an option to get good for nothing or perfect for pretty high. Will you guess what majority will choose. For the moment i did not have any practise in the English language for almost a decade. 2 decades ago i was sure that i will never be replaced. For the moment i work as an engineer for nearly 7 years. If a you are top 5% or so percent probably you will find a way to stay in a game, if not, then start looking for another job.
some instagram Ai account so good
Which one? :)
When you ask if AI can make art on a computer, shouldn't you also ask if smooshing colored oil on a surface can make art?
Sounds like Jackson Pollock :)
Yes it can. The artist makes decisions throughout the process of semi-randomly applying pigments onto a surface. The surface and its qualities are selected. The application of hues ,values,chroma, shape, illusion of volume, are in part controlled and purposeful in combination with randomness and taking advantage of chance. The artist will select what to keep and what to delete. And no you don’t have to agree or like the result or believe that it is art.
I’ve also been thinking about the potential risks and benefits associated with AI's future development.
If AI had a hormone system on par with humans’ and were to develop the same level of emotional cognition as humans, it could potentially rival or surpass human artists, although the extent to which it might be developed in the future remains uncertain. Nobody can predict its future trajectory accurately, because AI technology is continuously advancing as we speak.
I once read a Korean fictional story about this AI-installed car that, sinking into deep depression, decided to commit suicide in a car crash. 😒
It seems that the car learned to experience and understand emotions from its owner; its interactions with its driver must have ignited a spark of creativity within it. This creative machine seems to have been too honest about its feelings or maybe too overwhelmed by them to endure the depths of depression..😁
I really hope it’s just a novel.
Interesting novel - our hope is that it remains a fiction story :)
@@CuriousMuse😂
@@user-up2hh6ny5s Could you please link the name of the story? I'm interested in reading it! It sounds like the basis of Cyberpunk's Delamain quest line, if you know the game.
@@jordan.na.dzielni
I'm not really into games, so I'm not familiar with that reference. I read the story in Korean🙃 , and I'm unsure if there's an English version available online😁.
Unfortunately, I don't recall the book's title at the moment since it's been a while since I read it. But I'll let you know as soon as I find the book title and its author.😉
I was just going to say this video was made by AI...at least the last section....because the sign off sounded disjointed
No. Art is a commodity, and collected by rich people often with the inevitability to be sold. A human created art work has an element of scarcity; the artist produces a limited number of works in their career until they die, were the supply of new work stops, their prices start to sky rocket. The element of supply and demand.
The rich will continue to invest in traditional art due to its historical and cultural significance, the prestige associated with owning original artworks, and the potential financial returns. The market for traditional art may adapt and evolve with the changing times, but its enduring appeal and value are likely to persist for a long time.
I m an artist an afraid now because of AI art
AI lacks the purpose and sentiment that an artist attaches to an artwork. Doesn't necessarily mean it's not 'art' but it's certainly closer to 'junk'.
Irony of AI voice ....
We wanted the video about AI to be voiced by AI :)
Yes probably
Ai art isn't art because it's missing the soul. A machine doesn't feel anything while creating thus it's "art" can't convey real emotions, when art is all about feeling something.
Evoking feelings is so art 😍
I think it´s important to tackle what "art" means. In my case, I ONLY buy handmade art, especially one with a technique that takes several months to make, thus I am not that happy with some contemporary "artists" either. AI scares me... it could get out of control, and also because if it´s affordable, the mass might accept it just like they did with white walls and Ikea furniture =)
Yeah, it’s hard to agree on the definitions because art created by AI could still be art and performance too :)
The majority will accept it to one degree or another, just like the acceptance of the ubiquitous
disposable roller ball pen versus the fountain pen.
@@CuriousMuse Well... to me, if it´s not hand made it´s not art. A human might create a machine, but the soul comes from another living being. The AI art might resemble, but that´s the difference between buying something that has intention or technique and a dupe (cheap or not)
@@miguelangelcollazo5081 but you know you are not getting the same, even if you accept it. Just like people with no funds have posters or "minimal art" on their walls tricking themselves but in reality, they know it´s not the real thing =)
@@IMAInteriors Yes, that is why I compared Ai art to the disposable Bic pens that are cheap and can be bought everywhere. I am an artist and I despise Ai art. But people are quickly accepting it. Ai will be involved in everything. I am not against high tech but we have to be careful that we don’t strip away our humanity and hand it over to “bots”.
No. AI will , I think, be used in marketing, film , advertising. Seems like a contradiction but I think, A I will be applied where cost is a factor . A Picasso or Dali will still require a person. There can be a merger between AI and artists like Hollywood uses CGI today. We still pay to see movies and some movies produce great value to people.
Ai will make art more accessible and help artists create more of what they want. Ai art is a new medium.
Great way of thinking about it 👍🏻
jesus... even this YT video is AI!
Meanwhile, the narrator is AI 😂
TV haed art
God no! XD AI art is too terrible to replace any human artist. In fact, the very idea of AI replacing artwork is dystopian and shameful. Humans experience true suffering and passions, peace, love, turmoil, and triumph on a level that a machine just simply can't conceive. In fact humans are able to conceive abstract things (like in Shakespear's quote from Romeo and Juliet's quote "She is the East, and Juliet is the Sun.") This quote and metaphor is a completely abstracted idea and concept that robots are unable to be programmed to understand how to work properly. It's like that with paintings and any man-made artwork as well, there's a psychology behind it that a robot can't understand due to it being outside of their ability of knowing.
AI art is at best design but it’s not art because there’s no soul behind it, that’s my opinion
Of course Ai art will kill traditional art. Technology can't be stopped. I cant even paint stick figures, but I can do magic with Midjourney. So, yeah, adapt or die. No one is gonna cry for you.
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