In my headcannon Nil is to Aloy what Travis Tate was to Elisabet: that very skilled but very opposite personality that still reminds them of that darker part of their mind that relishes the thrill and keeps them focused on their higher goals.
@@tuck295q I just beat the game this weekend and it seems like it was more delusion than truth. Alva basically says as much. The title was an honorific that he let go to his head.
I friggin' love Nil. His dialogue is always so entertaining. He's ... buffed up too. Or at least, I didn't realise just how buff he was until he took that Carja outfit off. :)
Ah yes when like when Erend was talking about tracking down his sister and he’s supposed to angry, but his face just look like he didn’t seem that bothered lol
Each interaction in Forbidden West is more engaging too. I recall in Zero Dawn with its interactions that I would sometimes find myself wondering when the conversation would end lol
@@PinoyLifeStyle320 ah yes back to my Erend talking about Ersa moment, where he didn’t look that bothered by it, his hands were waving around like he was swatting a fart
All true, but it's weird seeing expressions on Nil's face -- I actually preferred his blank, sociopathic affect, even though it was a side-effect of the earlier's game's cruder rendering
Nil takes the whole Frenemy thing to a whole new positive level . Its like being best friends with a Drug lord or serial killer . One of you can die any time , but life would not be the same without each other . ohyeah ... the batman and joker type relationship .
I guess when you don't care about the war crimes you committed it's not a stretch that they be nonchalant about there only friends doing there on thing. It's funny how an psychopath is more understand to aloy then most of the people she meets
It's such a funny idea. Nil sees her on the track and specifically targets her, trying to run her over potentially causing brutal injury or death, all because it's what he knows as respect. Nil is a legend.
In an odd way, I found that Nil and Aloy's dynamic was pretty refreshing. They each know what the other is and don't resent each other in the slightest. I think Nil feels like he's found a blood bond with someone who doesn't judge and he can be who he likes without fear of rejection from Aloy. IDK, that's just what I'm thinking in my brain space...
That's what I think too. It's why I love him so much. Aloy accepts he's a killer by impulse (in HZD) but she respects and JOINS him on his hunts. He's such a well written character, and I think he's the only male character that respects Aloy for ALL she is without any selfish ideas or intentions (Like Erend being a butthurt asshat when you first find him in HFW). Idk. It's a great dynamic. After the world is saved, I could see them slaughtering bandits and nefarious groups together.
@@tfurxrdftrxrdrdtf yeah ditto. Regrettably I was spoiled because when it comes to new games (at the time), gotta beware lol. But once i found out, I made it my mission to complete all the races and listen to the dialog 😄
Hell that's freaking awesome that he's in this game! I honestly never would have recognized him without his old headdress. Am kind of surprised Aloy did. Would recognize his voice anywhere tho :)
I love Nil! He was the coolest npc in HZD in my opinion. I always declined his challenge he's heartbroken about it, but it guaranteed that he would fight by your side to save meridian.
In Zero Dawn, Nil isn't one of the allies you need to get the Assembled Allies trophy. After you do all the Bandit Camps, Nil wants to fight Aloy. You can accept or decline. If you accept, Aloy kills Nil. If you decline, Nil will be at Meridian.
First they put badass Kotallo in the game, then they bring back Nil… they knew what they were doing, well played. He is exactly like Janeva said, a conscious blade
i kinda knew it was Nil when Red Teeth first showed up, i think Nil is pretty much the only character who has silver eyes in Horizon (Next to Helis but we all know Helis is dead lol)…and he had the signature red feathers on his helmet as well; but the buffer body shape and his fake voice threw me and i was thinking it’d be Drakka in disguise…and maybe Nil was The Enduring instead?? so happy to see my psycho homeboy in HFW though, he was my favorite in the first game and i was praying with everything that at least he’d have a cameo. that little wink he gives Aloy is everything ugh.
"Last person who tried got beat up so bad, pretty sure something got knocked loose in there." -> "It was a great bonding moment." This made me laugh so hard that I had to put a pause to racing. I love all the NPC interactions in Forbidden West.
Of course he's alive. Since Forbidden West, it doesn't matter if you won the duel, the Lore choice now is that you declined the duel and he helps Aloy fight hades at meridian at the end of Zero Dawn.
It took me sooo many tries to finish that last race, but I'm so happy that I didn't give up, this was a huge surprise! Also I forgot about Aloy's plastic barbie face in HZD lmao, this really shows how much the graphics have improved
Remember in HZD if you don't team up with him before starting with the bandit camps, he tells her that he watched her take them out and "pricked his finger" on his arrows for each kill? 🙃
Nil was my favorite NPC in HZD. So unpredictable and off-the-wall in his responses/behavior. Most NPCs have predictable responses/attitudes. But not Nil. I had no clue what he might say/do whenever I met him.
Got to the second last race where Aloy talks to "Red Teeth" and I was like "well, he has to be someone we know, otherwise what's the point in having his identity be a secret", so I thought for a bit and the only person I could think of was Nil, but even then I was like "no, is it, no, it could be, hmmmm". When it was revealed I slapped my chair armrest and yelled "I knew it!"
I was so happy when I noticed nil in the credits at the end of the game. I knew he must be in the game somewhere. Wish we could have him join us capturing reble outposts though.
You know with all the new and more deadlier enemies Nil would have a perpetual boner of a time constantly fighting battles except with the zeniths who cant really fight or put up much of a fight besides flexing their invincibility cheats and AOE attacks because they cant aim to save their own ass ..
Nil respects her! That's why he wanted them to fight to the death. Nil loves the fight, the kill, and Aloy is the ultimate challenge. It's why he was heartbroken if she chose not to kill him. I love a passionate man 😍😂
@@skins4thewin take the fact that his a psycho and let’s see you switched with more of a Robin Hood dexter type of personality and she would be intrigued. In there first encounter she definitely check him out lol
I already knew Nil being alive was cannon so I was kind of expecting him in the this game but surprised to see in this sense. Nice twist Guerrilla Games:)
I still hadn't beat the final race yet, too many wonky glitchy controls on the last two. But for some strange reason I suspected he might be Nil. I don't even know why. I remember killing him in the first game, only in watching this video I didn't realize I could have spared him. In all my replays I never chose that path. Relieved to find Nil still is alive. I wish there was more of him, I really liked his Character.
Dueling him wasn't even worth it. You only get 5000 XP. I reset and declined. Then he came to the final battle. Worth it. You can just kill a medium machine site for that reward, which there's one right next to the site you meet him for the final confrontation. I love Nil though.
Hell yeah, Carja's Bane! Probably the first Giant killer you'll get in the game. Aka a weapon with enough potential to fell the giants in seconds. Gotta admit tho, seeing Nil again would have been reward enough for me. Now I just hope that Brin is in the DLC!
Nil from Zero dawn is already hot enough I prefer him over Avad but in Forbidden west instead of usual headdress and Carja outfit he chose face paint and to show body hair. God I love him.
This was so surprising. I thought for sure they’d keep him out in case players wanted to kill him in the first game. I guess that’s just not canon. Happy to see him though. He looks great.
Well the trophy for All Allies Joined to platinum the game requires him to be alive so I guess that is the canon choice. I expected the same thing though and was so excited to see him again!
I didn't regret not killing him in HZD, because it turns out he reappeared for the battle of Meridian. EVERYONE who left an impression on me during my playthrough showed up in Meridian. It was a very good vibe and an even better 'remedy' after the whole Apollo purge twist. I'm so glad they made Aloy sparing Nil's life as canon.
Guerrilla games creates the hottest, most charming character in the Horizon universe (I would say in gaming) then gives him a tiny role and hides him behind a mask, not fair 😒
Is that how it translates? Nil named his bow "The Voice of Our Teeth" in the English-language version ("Why would I name my knife? Who does that?"). And yeah, if the rumors about Red Teeth weren't clue enough, his name should have been. XD
I did wonder if I'd see Nil. He was there during the battle at the end of ZD. But before setting off to the Forbidden West, everyone was there except for Nil. Guess he's not one for crowds
There are a LOT of people on Horizon reddit who demean, belittle and downright bully other fans for liking Nil/hoping he'll show up in HFW. I'm relieved it's not the same on RUclips.
What? That’s crazy. I know Nil is a psychopath but how can people actually hate his character? Besides, he at least chooses to only hunt and kill bad people from what we know.
This character is the, "Oh boy! Here I go killing again!" in this series Damn, I really hope we see this character part of the main group in Horizon 3. Feels like such a waste to leave him on a side quest.
I’m mad at myself Nil was one of my fave characters from the first game. The last race was the only thing I didn’t complete before the final mission. I missed him.
I never killed him. Even on New Game+, I could never find it in me to accept his duel. Beating those stupid gauntlet runs was brutal, but it was nice to see him again 😂😂
The thing that threw me off about the man behind the mask being Nil was that the orignal Nil had no chest/belly hair whatsoever so seeing this person, despite the very prominent eyes, as Nil was nearly impossible with the mask on.
His original and fastidious character design is just great. The nobleman vibe with the off kilter post war kill itch is just a bent that works for him. I killed him too though..lol
Seem like it was not canon. Also it would be absolutely, completely out of character for Aloy to kill him. I don't even know why there was even an option.
"Loved" to have received that spoiler in my main page on youtube. Must mean you have good engagement. Congratulations to you and sorry me for getting spoiled.
Wow! i hate racing mini games so this was a mission I assumed id never play. And offc it has my favorite character! i had hoped id run into him the whole game, and I even used his eyes tattoos the whole time. Never knew he was hiding in this quest lol woulda been cool if ther ewas a secret dialogue if your wearing his eye tattoos when you meet him
The reason nil is alive because Aloy would have never of fought him and the developers knew this, the fact that you as the gamer made the wrong decision, shows that you do not understand who the character of Aloy really is. She kills when she has too to survive, but she is not a colder blooded killer and believes in deescalation and truly cares as she also believe in justice. That’s why when Nil originally challenged her to the death, she would have refused to do so. Nil then would go back to his roots in the forbidden west to continue his journey and development.
Nil dying was never canon, and it was always obvious from the dialogue. The canon ending to his quest in Zero Dawn was Aloy sparing him. Yes he’s a psychotic murderer, but he’s a fan favorite character and he’s a fan of Aloy. I’m happy Guerrilla decided a more canon ending for him, I loved his character. Always made me laugh how obsessed with killing he is.
Honestly, I think I prefer this method? When you have choices in one game but the sequel decides the canon outcome. It was also like that in Deus Ex Mankind Divided where Adam got a gift from Malik despite the possibility of her dying in Human Revolution. Choices in, for example, Mass Effect always felt a bit wishy-washy because there were so many possibilities. So they often resulted in a character texture swap and a few different dialogue lines. Same thing in The Witcher 3, honestly. Even the biggest choice from TW2 (Roche vs. Iorveth) means nothing in TW3.
Seeing that Red Theet didn't have any Tenakt marks it was clear that he wasn't from the Forbidden West. And hiding his face because he is Carja. Makea sense now that I have watched it for a second time. I didn't like the racing so I haven't even started it. But Nil was my favorite character from HZD :)
I killed him and then reloaded the game back from an earlier save point so that I didn’t have to kill him. But tbh, when he invited Aloy, I was expecting it to go in a completely different direction!
WOOOOW, I thought I wasn't gonna see him in the game again, 'cause the last time we were given the options to let him alive or kill him. Either way, I'm so so happy to see him again.
Nil would've made a better partner for Aloy than Erend. He's more handsome too than barrel body Erend 😂 but I guess Aloy is more comfortable with Erend
I guess this means that the option to fight him to the death in the first game isn’t canon. Which makes sense, since I also chose to spare him due to it being the most fitting option, since Aloy hates senseless violence and only fights/kills others to defend herself.
I ship these two way harder than anyone else in the game. Seriously, it's like Hannibal and Clarice in "The Silence of the Lambs". One is a psychopath, the other a hero, they kinda love to hate each other, but ultimately, I'm with Alloy on this one... glad Nil found a "less dangerous" hobby and survived 😂
Spoiled it for me with this video but I'm not mad 😄 happy to see Nil is in the game, he was my favorite character from HZD, great to see him but also disappointed because I hoped there would be more missions with him, I guess it's better than nothing
I love Aloy but I think in Horizon 3 It’d be cool if he was a double character to play as to sorta switch between. I just want to see more Nil, easily the most interesting npc in Horizon
At the very least, Nil HAS TO become an official member of Aloy's crew in Horizon 3. I need to see him interacting with everyone. Notice how there's no Carja member in Horizon 2.
I would love to have character switch in Horizon 3 imagine using kotalo,alva,talanah,erend,nil,zo or sylens(i wonder if he’s still in part 3 since lance reddick passed away(God bless his soul) )
I always shipped Aloy and Nil. Despite Aloy having little interest in him, they bonded through killing bandits and how could it get any better than that? Nils little disturbing comments about blood, Aloy having second thoughts about even knowing Nil. It’s just… beautiful.
So if you win the race after the last conversation, Nil will have more lines to say afterwards but it's done by a different voice actor it was weird I hope they keep the original voice actor if they plan for more Nil in the future because he's amazing I didn't like the new one at all they could've at least made him speak the same way.
This man really quit his murder hobby to play Mariokart IRL, what a legend.
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Lmao hell yeah , just finished this mission today before see this vid and was think the same thing
Mario does the same. But he doesn't stop his murder hobby
This comment is clutch
In my headcannon Nil is to Aloy what Travis Tate was to Elisabet: that very skilled but very opposite personality that still reminds them of that darker part of their mind that relishes the thrill and keeps them focused on their higher goals.
You know. You are right. Didn't think about that, but yeah.
Oh shit…if he’s really Travis Tate clone…. Omg
@@tuck295q Honestly I thought the Ceo was a Travis Tate clone. He looked more like him than Faro at the very least.
@@kidanarchy2105 wasnt it confirmed that Ceo is part Farro genetic?
@@tuck295q I just beat the game this weekend and it seems like it was more delusion than truth. Alva basically says as much. The title was an honorific that he let go to his head.
I friggin' love Nil. His dialogue is always so entertaining. He's ... buffed up too. Or at least, I didn't realise just how buff he was until he took that Carja outfit off. :)
I can’t believe I’m crushing on a videogame murderphile. 😂
@@shaney_haro I sadly can't help it 😭
His voice seems to have changed too lol
I wish he would have kept it off
@@eden20111 Just don't do the quest.
after playing forbidden west, you can totally see the improvement of the speaking animations compared to the first game
Ah yes when like when Erend was talking about tracking down his sister and he’s supposed to angry, but his face just look like he didn’t seem that bothered lol
aloy's face seems thinner here, I did not notice until this video
Each interaction in Forbidden West is more engaging too. I recall in Zero Dawn with its interactions that I would sometimes find myself wondering when the conversation would end lol
@@PinoyLifeStyle320 ah yes back to my Erend talking about Ersa moment, where he didn’t look that bothered by it, his hands were waving around like he was swatting a fart
All true, but it's weird seeing expressions on Nil's face -- I actually preferred his blank, sociopathic affect, even though it was a side-effect of the earlier's game's cruder rendering
I like that Nil seems to be the only companion that doesn't slightly resent Aloy for (obsessively) following her own path.
unhinged gets unhinged
Nil takes the whole Frenemy thing to a whole new positive level . Its like being best friends with a Drug lord or serial killer . One of you can die any time , but life would not be the same without each other . ohyeah ... the batman and joker type relationship .
I guess when you don't care about the war crimes you committed it's not a stretch that they be nonchalant about there only friends doing there on thing. It's funny how an psychopath is more understand to aloy then most of the people she meets
Even if he did , that would be hypocrisy wouldn't it
Nil understands that, it makes sense
Nil is someone who realizes he is in someone elses story...and does his own thing.
Very astute! I believe that's why he always leaves her the option to return when she pleases - she's of the wilds, just like him.
Well-said, mister monster. very well-said.
"You tried to run me off the track"
You'd think after spending so much time with Nil, Aloy would know this is a sign of affection.
It's such a funny idea. Nil sees her on the track and specifically targets her, trying to run her over potentially causing brutal injury or death, all because it's what he knows as respect.
Nil is a legend.
That is for Horizon 3. Nil better join the main team
Just a little love tap
In an odd way, I found that Nil and Aloy's dynamic was pretty refreshing. They each know what the other is and don't resent each other in the slightest. I think Nil feels like he's found a blood bond with someone who doesn't judge and he can be who he likes without fear of rejection from Aloy. IDK, that's just what I'm thinking in my brain space...
That's what I think too. It's why I love him so much. Aloy accepts he's a killer by impulse (in HZD) but she respects and JOINS him on his hunts.
He's such a well written character, and I think he's the only male character that respects Aloy for ALL she is without any selfish ideas or intentions (Like Erend being a butthurt asshat when you first find him in HFW).
Idk. It's a great dynamic. After the world is saved, I could see them slaughtering bandits and nefarious groups together.
Also he showed up in the end of HZD. And I don't think it was only for his impulse....he did it for Aloy.
I wanted Nil in this game so bad! He was one of my fav npcs. So glad to see him!
I'm guessing it didn't matter whether you killed him or not in the last game. Odd but it was still awesome to see him
I wasn’t even sure if he was there or not
@@tfurxrdftrxrdrdtf yeah ditto. Regrettably I was spoiled because when it comes to new games (at the time), gotta beware lol. But once i found out, I made it my mission to complete all the races and listen to the dialog 😄
Hell that's freaking awesome that he's in this game! I honestly never would have recognized him without his old headdress. Am kind of surprised Aloy did. Would recognize his voice anywhere tho :)
Up close and personal is easier to spot.
Focus facial recognition could have kicked in too? that and im sure in person he would be less easy to forget~
@@Alex.T1 That is an excellent point.
I wish Nil had joined us dismantling rebel camps and outposts
Probably because you can kill the leaders and run away
Same. I actually expected it lol
Right? How did they drop the ball on that
@@x7nilestyle13 seems they really wanted to add racing
Same, I missed him :’)
I love Nil! He was the coolest npc in HZD in my opinion. I always declined his challenge he's heartbroken about it, but it guaranteed that he would fight by your side to save meridian.
Wait he is there at the final battle if u refuse to kill him? How do I not remember that?
Is this true I might need to re replay the first game
In Zero Dawn, Nil isn't one of the allies you need to get the Assembled Allies trophy. After you do all the Bandit Camps, Nil wants to fight Aloy. You can accept or decline. If you accept, Aloy kills Nil. If you decline, Nil will be at Meridian.
@@ubiquitousmop9935 It is true he's where Uthid is fighting a longleg. He also has some dialogue if you hang around for a moment.
One time I fight with him and kill him in the second attempt.
But this was one of the most difficult fights in the hole game.
First they put badass Kotallo in the game, then they bring back Nil… they knew what they were doing, well played. He is exactly like Janeva said, a conscious blade
i kinda knew it was Nil when Red Teeth first showed up, i think Nil is pretty much the only character who has silver eyes in Horizon (Next to Helis but we all know Helis is dead lol)…and he had the signature red feathers on his helmet as well; but the buffer body shape and his fake voice threw me and i was thinking it’d be Drakka in disguise…and maybe Nil was The Enduring instead??
so happy to see my psycho homeboy in HFW though, he was my favorite in the first game and i was praying with everything that at least he’d have a cameo.
that little wink he gives Aloy is everything ugh.
"my psycho homeboy" hahaha perfect 😅
"Last person who tried got beat up so bad, pretty sure something got knocked loose in there." -> "It was a great bonding moment." This made me laugh so hard that I had to put a pause to racing. I love all the NPC interactions in Forbidden West.
Aloy and Nil are such a funny duo. Nil is a complete psychopath and Aloy just accepts that for some odd reason 😂
Hah😂❤
Of course he's alive. Since Forbidden West, it doesn't matter if you won the duel, the Lore choice now is that you declined the duel and he helps Aloy fight hades at meridian at the end of Zero Dawn.
Still woud have loved to see an optional question for when she did beat him in the fight
You say of "course hes alive" like thats something one should know before this mission. Straight up stating the obvious after
It took me sooo many tries to finish that last race, but I'm so happy that I didn't give up, this was a huge surprise! Also I forgot about Aloy's plastic barbie face in HZD lmao, this really shows how much the graphics have improved
i lost hope..been trying for a while now and i hate my life
I finished it in 1 try 💀
Aloy:”Nil? How are you here? I killed you.”
Nil:”It’s complicated.”
"My death was... Greatly exaggerated."
Nil still holding that Flame for Aloy. That is so cool man ❤
I enjoyed all the euphemisms 😂 'stimulating / need a release' + if you decline the race he can also say 'I can wait - I know you'll be worth it!'
Remember in HZD if you don't team up with him before starting with the bandit camps, he tells her that he watched her take them out and "pricked his finger" on his arrows for each kill? 🙃
@@alenaaaa4112 I.... did not know that...
Now I need to replay HZD and see if I can resist him long enough to clear out the first camp alone! 😂
I think the word innuendo is more appropriate rather than euphemisms.
Nil was my favorite NPC in HZD. So unpredictable and off-the-wall in his responses/behavior. Most NPCs have predictable responses/attitudes. But not Nil. I had no clue what he might say/do whenever I met him.
Got to the second last race where Aloy talks to "Red Teeth" and I was like "well, he has to be someone we know, otherwise what's the point in having his identity be a secret", so I thought for a bit and the only person I could think of was Nil, but even then I was like "no, is it, no, it could be, hmmmm". When it was revealed I slapped my chair armrest and yelled "I knew it!"
Look I get that Nil is a murder-sexual fiend but that man's drawl, cadence and physique, I tell you, is *so fine*
The f- graphics upgrade is insane to me… from smooth dull skin to detailed rosacea… wow just wow.
when I saw Nil again, i was super happy. I finished the game and thought Nil just disappeared, but he's here. this is awesome
I mean you had a choice to kill him in the last game and I kept him alive for obvious reasons. I like the dude and enjoyed his dialogue and such
I was so happy when I noticed nil in the credits at the end of the game. I knew he must be in the game somewhere. Wish we could have him join us capturing reble outposts though.
Man, how I missed Nil's personality what a charmer haha!
I'm so happy. I loved nil and happy to see him back.
You know with all the new and more deadlier enemies Nil would have a perpetual boner of a time constantly fighting battles except with the zeniths who cant really fight or put up much of a fight besides flexing their invincibility cheats and AOE attacks because they cant aim to save their own ass ..
I do really wish Nil could come on the bandit camp raids with you in this one. I really loved seeing him in the 1st game.
That's so cool! I love Nil !! If Aloy had a romance option, I'd pick him! Wow what a cool Easter egg. Glad he found his thing
Lol pretty sure there's zero chance of that happening. I think it's safe to say that Aloy has zero interest in him.
Their dynamic is very interesting. And since so many other characters just seem disappointed in her choices, at least Nil would respect her.
Nil respects her! That's why he wanted them to fight to the death. Nil loves the fight, the kill, and Aloy is the ultimate challenge. It's why he was heartbroken if she chose not to kill him. I love a passionate man 😍😂
@@acenull0 That pout of his after you're finished saying "no" - his idle animation. It's really adorable, I think.
@@skins4thewin take the fact that his a psycho and let’s see you switched with more of a Robin Hood dexter type of personality and she would be intrigued. In there first encounter she definitely check him out lol
I already knew Nil being alive was cannon so I was kind of expecting him in the this game but surprised to see in this sense. Nice twist Guerrilla Games:)
Idk if it’s the hair or something else, but Nil in FW is fiiinneee
As always nill was smooth but dangerous 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
'Aloy, find me if you need a release' **swoon**
Is it just me or is everything Nil says some sort of innuendo
I love it
NIL MY BOI, HE'S BACK
Those crazy eyes!
That face paint makes him look like a German soccer hooligan
I'm German and that's what I've been thinking the whole game talking to the Tenakth, lol.
I still hadn't beat the final race yet, too many wonky glitchy controls on the last two. But for some strange reason I suspected he might be Nil. I don't even know why. I remember killing him in the first game, only in watching this video I didn't realize I could have spared him. In all my replays I never chose that path. Relieved to find Nil still is alive. I wish there was more of him, I really liked his Character.
Dueling him wasn't even worth it. You only get 5000 XP. I reset and declined. Then he came to the final battle. Worth it. You can just kill a medium machine site for that reward, which there's one right next to the site you meet him for the final confrontation.
I love Nil though.
Hell yeah, Carja's Bane! Probably the first Giant killer you'll get in the game. Aka a weapon with enough potential to fell the giants in seconds. Gotta admit tho, seeing Nil again would have been reward enough for me. Now I just hope that Brin is in the DLC!
Really? I haven't done any big searches for beefy weapons. Guess I better mount up
Nil from Zero dawn is already hot enough I prefer him over Avad but in Forbidden west instead of usual headdress and Carja outfit he chose face paint and to show body hair.
God I love him.
Glad to see he back.
This was so surprising. I thought for sure they’d keep him out in case players wanted to kill him in the first game. I guess that’s just not canon. Happy to see him though. He looks great.
Well the trophy for All Allies Joined to platinum the game requires him to be alive so I guess that is the canon choice. I expected the same thing though and was so excited to see him again!
I didn't regret not killing him in HZD, because it turns out he reappeared for the battle of Meridian. EVERYONE who left an impression on me during my playthrough showed up in Meridian. It was a very good vibe and an even better 'remedy' after the whole Apollo purge twist.
I'm so glad they made Aloy sparing Nil's life as canon.
Nil deserves more screen time just like erren and varl
Definitely the sexiest love interest for Aloy!
Guerrilla games creates the hottest, most charming character in the Horizon universe (I would say in gaming) then gives him a tiny role and hides him behind a mask, not fair 😒
a clue was his name "Red Teeth" in HZD he named his bow "Teeth eater."
Is that how it translates? Nil named his bow "The Voice of Our Teeth" in the English-language version ("Why would I name my knife? Who does that?"). And yeah, if the rumors about Red Teeth weren't clue enough, his name should have been. XD
I did wonder if I'd see Nil. He was there during the battle at the end of ZD. But before setting off to the Forbidden West, everyone was there except for Nil. Guess he's not one for crowds
Well remember Nil was optional.
I love Nil, he is my favorite male npc in the zero dawn. If Aloy ever have romance route I will pick Nil first.
Damn that wink at the end 😵 🥰 how did Aloy resist 😆 my gods he's so charming
There are a LOT of people on Horizon reddit who demean, belittle and downright bully other fans for liking Nil/hoping he'll show up in HFW. I'm relieved it's not the same on RUclips.
What? That’s crazy. I know Nil is a psychopath but how can people actually hate his character? Besides, he at least chooses to only hunt and kill bad people from what we know.
It's reddit, what were you expecting?
There’s people who don’t like Nil? That sounds like no fun
This character is the, "Oh boy! Here I go killing again!" in this series
Damn, I really hope we see this character part of the main group in Horizon 3. Feels like such a waste to leave him on a side quest.
Nil...some of my Favorite Quests
I love Nil🤣 dude is a psychopath🥰 But he’s my kinda psychopath!
I love Nil🥰 I never could kill him. So glad he lives either way.
I had been wondering if he was in the game my entire playthrough, cool character for sure.
I’m mad at myself Nil was one of my fave characters from the first game. The last race was the only thing I didn’t complete before the final mission. I missed him.
Is he gone after the main quest?
@@joana8615 I’m not sure but I think you can still do all the side stuff you missed after the main quest.
I never killed him. Even on New Game+, I could never find it in me to accept his duel. Beating those stupid gauntlet runs was brutal, but it was nice to see him again 😂😂
Yes if you dont kill him in zero dawn you can see him fighting in the last battle when youre chasing hades
“How are you here?”
(Wait… how IS he here)
“I won’t bore you with the details”
The thing that threw me off about the man behind the mask being Nil was that the orignal Nil had no chest/belly hair whatsoever so seeing this person, despite the very prominent eyes, as Nil was nearly impossible with the mask on.
They added more details, same thing with avad
I didnt race past the first one, it wasn't for me. But omg im just tickled that it's Nil in the mask! Love it lol.
wtf i thought i killed nil he ain't showin up anymore. what a guy. love this man to death haha his chaotic dialogue is a gem
His original and fastidious character design is just great. The nobleman vibe with the off kilter post war kill itch is just a bent that works for him. I killed him too though..lol
The facial animations made such an astonishingly huge upgrade!
"How Sway" 🤣 We put ol Nil down like fertilizer.
Zero dawn players who chose to kill Nil: *didn’t I kill you back then?*
Seem like it was not canon. Also it would be absolutely, completely out of character for Aloy to kill him. I don't even know why there was even an option.
It's so weird to see those dialogues now
"Loved" to have received that spoiler in my main page on youtube. Must mean you have good engagement. Congratulations to you and sorry me for getting spoiled.
Wow looking back at the facial animations just makes me laugh. Great improvement
14:42 What Is He Talking About ??? 🤨🤭😲😳
Nil can make a really badass Killzone Antagonist , if Guerrilla ever return to that franchise
A modern Nil look out
Wow! i hate racing mini games so this was a mission I assumed id never play.
And offc it has my favorite character!
i had hoped id run into him the whole game, and I even used his eyes tattoos the whole time. Never knew he was hiding in this quest lol
woulda been cool if ther ewas a secret dialogue if your wearing his eye tattoos when you meet him
The reason nil is alive because Aloy would have never of fought him and the developers knew this, the fact that you as the gamer made the wrong decision, shows that you do not understand who the character of Aloy really is. She kills when she has too to survive, but she is not a colder blooded killer and believes in deescalation and truly cares as she also believe in justice. That’s why when Nil originally challenged her to the death, she would have refused to do so. Nil then would go back to his roots in the forbidden west to continue his journey and development.
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@@boo1488 that response just shows your intent and IQ, it very, very low in the single digits.
Nil dying was never canon, and it was always obvious from the dialogue. The canon ending to his quest in Zero Dawn was Aloy sparing him. Yes he’s a psychotic murderer, but he’s a fan favorite character and he’s a fan of Aloy. I’m happy Guerrilla decided a more canon ending for him, I loved his character. Always made me laugh how obsessed with killing he is.
Honestly, I think I prefer this method? When you have choices in one game but the sequel decides the canon outcome. It was also like that in Deus Ex Mankind Divided where Adam got a gift from Malik despite the possibility of her dying in Human Revolution.
Choices in, for example, Mass Effect always felt a bit wishy-washy because there were so many possibilities. So they often resulted in a character texture swap and a few different dialogue lines.
Same thing in The Witcher 3, honestly. Even the biggest choice from TW2 (Roche vs. Iorveth) means nothing in TW3.
Seeing that Red Theet didn't have any Tenakt marks it was clear that he wasn't from the Forbidden West. And hiding his face because he is Carja. Makea sense now that I have watched it for a second time. I didn't like the racing so I haven't even started it. But Nil was my favorite character from HZD :)
He put on weight too!😂
I killed him and then reloaded the game back from an earlier save point so that I didn’t have to kill him. But tbh, when he invited Aloy, I was expecting it to go in a completely different direction!
I did wonder where Nil went. Good to see him again
WOOOOW, I thought I wasn't gonna see him in the game again, 'cause the last time we were given the options to let him alive or kill him. Either way, I'm so so happy to see him again.
Just started playing the series. Love his character, was so happy when I finished the fourth race, happy he got his "happy ending."
It’s amazing seeing how natural her hair moved in the first game
0:08 Is it just me, or is it so weird to hear Aloy call someone ELSE an 'outlander' 😅🤣😂
"It was a great bonding moment"
That line made me laugh so freaking hard
Nil would've made a better partner for Aloy than Erend. He's more handsome too than barrel body Erend 😂 but I guess Aloy is more comfortable with Erend
I'll be damned! I'm taking my sweet time playing HFW and didn't think I'd see Nil again! Thanks for uploading!
I guess this means that the option to fight him to the death in the first game isn’t canon. Which makes sense, since I also chose to spare him due to it being the most fitting option, since Aloy hates senseless violence and only fights/kills others to defend herself.
For a sociopath Nil is a pretty likable guy
Dude I went crazy lmfao I love Nil Aaaaaaaaaaaaaa
I ship these two way harder than anyone else in the game. Seriously, it's like Hannibal and Clarice in "The Silence of the Lambs". One is a psychopath, the other a hero, they kinda love to hate each other, but ultimately, I'm with Alloy on this one... glad Nil found a "less dangerous" hobby and survived 😂
not only is he alive but he doesn't have a character bio in the the data log to remind players who he is.
You know Nil lives to join you at the final battle if you don't fight him right? (HZD), making the "fight him" option yk, not exactly cannon lmao
Spoiled it for me with this video but I'm not mad 😄 happy to see Nil is in the game, he was my favorite character from HZD, great to see him but also disappointed because I hoped there would be more missions with him, I guess it's better than nothing
I love Aloy but I think in Horizon 3 It’d be cool if he was a double character to play as to sorta switch between. I just want to see more Nil, easily the most interesting npc in Horizon
At the very least, Nil HAS TO become an official member of Aloy's crew in Horizon 3. I need to see him interacting with everyone. Notice how there's no Carja member in Horizon 2.
I would love to have character switch in Horizon 3 imagine using kotalo,alva,talanah,erend,nil,zo or sylens(i wonder if he’s still in part 3 since lance reddick passed away(God bless his soul) )
I always shipped Aloy and Nil. Despite Aloy having little interest in him, they bonded through killing bandits and how could it get any better than that? Nils little disturbing comments about blood, Aloy having second thoughts about even knowing Nil. It’s just… beautiful.
Is it just me or does Aloy A LOT of eye rolling?
I mean, she sassed Hades so much he actually pointed it out, so I’d say it’s kinda her thing.
Ngl. That was pretty cool
So if you win the race after the last conversation, Nil will have more lines to say afterwards but it's done by a different voice actor it was weird I hope they keep the original voice actor if they plan for more Nil in the future because he's amazing I didn't like the new one at all they could've at least made him speak the same way.